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‘UFC 141: Lesnar vs. Overeem’ Aftermath: Out With the Old, In With the New

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There was a time when the UFC had trouble drumming up any interest at all in their heavyweight division—can you say ‘Arlovski vs. Buentello for the title!!!’?—but those days are long gone. One could point to the growth of the sport attracting big men from other sports, or credit training camps for churning out well-rounded fighters, but much of the interest in the revitalized division has been carried by the broad, skull-tatted shoulders of one man.

Brock Lesnar‘s 2008 debut in the Octagon brought interest, intrigue, and—most importantly—eyeballs. Lots of them. Speculation over whether the big man could survive against a real fighter was rampant, but before long we were asking if anyone could survive in a real fight against him. He quickly smashed his way to the top of the 265 lb. heap, but his skid down that mountain was just as fast. Following two brutal, first-round losses to Cain Velasquez and Alistair Overeem, Brock is ready to hang up the gloves. Looking back at his brief career, if it is truly over, one thing becomes painfully clear: Brock Lesnar doesn’t love fighting; Brock Lesnar loves beating people up. While those two interests often intertwine, they quickly diverge when you start getting tagged. For all of the debates over Brock’s questionable chin and concerns for vegetable-rejecting body, the real downfall of his MMA career was his heart. He doesn’t love this fighting game, and MMA is a cruel mistress. If you can’t fully commit to her, you can expect to find a pile of shredded “Clutch Gear” shirts on the doorstep when you get home from the bar. Brock seems to have gotten that message and is packing his things and moving on with his life.

While the UFC is losing their biggest draw in the form of Lesnar, they may have found a future star in Alistair Overeem. He may not cut a polarizing promo, but he’s built like an Adonis and is capable of delivering incredible pain with each of his limbs. He shirked off Lesnar’s takedowns with ease, but they didn’t have the desperate commitment behind them that they should have, not even close. If you believe Overeem to be an unstoppable force then your fire was fueled last night, and if you doubt his place at the top of the food chain you’ll undoubtedly focus on Brock’s uninspired performance rather than those destructive knees and kicks. You can argue over how he’ll do against the rest of the field, and frankly we hope you do.

If Lesnar’s wild ride in the heavyweight division resembled a violent tsunami, Jon Fitch’s dominance over the welterweight landscape has spread like continental drift. After 145 consecutive minutes of anti-climactic fighting, the sport’s least celebrated grinder was toppled in the blink of an eye. If rebounding from a gutsy loss to GSP—his only defeat in twenty two consecutive bouts–with five straight wins and a hard fought draw did nothing to place his name back “in the mix” for a second shot at the belt, it’s hard to imagine what it will take for Fitch to earn one now. For Johny Hendricks it’s the sort of victory that a fighter can build his name on, but despite the divisional upheaval caused by GSP’s injury it’s a little premature to be calling for a title shot. While Diaz and Condit fight for the interim strap, he can kill some time spending that $75k ‘Knock Out of the Night” bonus.

Lightweights Nate Diaz and Donald Cerrone also picked up some spending cash with their “Fight of the Night” bonuses. Nate cooked up the Diaz family recipe of 11-punch combinations and trash talk, and he served it to Cerrone for a full three rounds. “Cowboy” was overwhelmed by Diaz’s trademark punches in bunches, but did little to change up his game plan and alter his attack. He found success with kicks, sweeping the Stockton tough’s legs out from under him on several occasions, but then it was back to accepting the short end of the stick in a lopsided boxing match. For Cerrone it was a sour ending to a tremendous year, and for Diaz another imposing performance at 155 lbs.

After missing with a couple of wild strikes, Matyushenko charged right into a perfectly timed jab. Gustafsson dropped him with the strike and followed it up with ground and pound to end the bout in just over two minutes. It was the lanky Swede’s fifth win and fifth stoppage in the Octagon. The twenty-four year old’s long frame and composed dominance over a veteran like Matyushenko should raise some eyebrows at 205 lbs.

And what can you say about Jim Hette’s performance that the scorecards didn’t? 30-25, 30-25 and 30-26 pretty much sums it up. He sent Nam Phan flying repeatedly and beat him up on the ground. He needs to bring his cardio in line with the rest of his game, but he’s a perfect 10-0 with two impressive wins in the UFC and looks to be a very promising prospect in the featherweight division.

Full Results (via

Main Bouts (on Pay-Per-View):
-Alistair Overeem def. Brock Lesnar by TKO at 2:26, R1
-Nate Diaz def. Donald Cerrone by unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
-Johny Hendricks def. Jon Fitch by KO at :12, R1
-Alexander Gustafsson def. Vladimir Matyushenko by TKO at 2:13, R1
–Jim Hettes def. Nam Phan by unanimous decision (30-25, 30-25, 30-26)

Preliminary Bouts (on Spike TV):
-Ross Pearson def. Junior Assuncao by unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 30-27)
-Danny Castillo def. Anthony Njokuani by split decision (29-28, 28-29, 29-28)

Preliminary Bouts (on Facebook):
-Dong Hyun Kim def. Sean Pierson by unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27)
-Jacob Volkmann def. Efrain Escudero by unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
-Matt Riddle vs. Luis Ramos: CANCELLED due to Illness
-Diego Nunes def. Manny Gamburyan by unanimous decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)


- Chris Colemon (@ChrisColemon)

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Dagnut- January 3, 2012 at 2:00 am
I've never been a Lesnar fan and I was sniggered at on this site for suggesting in 2009 that Overreem was a force to be reckoned with but anyone here claiming Lesnar is "a bully" has no idea about combat sports or sport in general. Physical prowess at the top level of any sport is 80% of the battle, Lesnar nearly died and I have more respect for him that he actually came back and fought.
TommyWiseau- January 1, 2012 at 11:09 am
First off, I was pretty disappointed with the Lesnar-Overeem fight, but now looking back its really not too surprising.

When Lesnar said the diverticulitis has really gotten to him, I gotta admit I never even thought of that but it definitely makes sense. Ever since he came back from the surgery, the guy has been a complete different fighter- basically fighting scared. His fight with Carwin- the only reason he won is because Carwin spent all of his energy in that first round and when that happens your done (ex. BJ Penn vs Diaz, Mayhem vs Bisbing). Had Carwin not spent himself, Lesnar would have a scar even bigger than the one Velasquez gave him.

During the fight, when Lesnar was attempting to stand and exchange with Overeem, when Lesnar would throw a punch, Overeem would almost laugh at him like "Dude are you serious?". This was never a fight and I think everyone that is saying his heart isn't in it anymore is spot on but its not because he has been losing- that just fuels guys like him. Look at what happened after he lost to Mir. I think in the long run the diverticulitis really got to him and really burnt him out. That sickness is no joke, my dad and father in law have both been suffering with it for 10+ years and it hasn't even gotten to the point where surgery was needed like Brock.

Im not a Lesnar fan but I can appreciate the guys athleticism and entertainment value. It's unfortunate that we won't get to see the old Lesnar again, because whether you like him or not, those fights were fun to watch.
Sopapo- January 1, 2012 at 10:11 am
Please, don't you ever be a judge. Cerrone never hurt diaz (xept for that nice headkick) and never controlled any aspect of the fight. He was left to try and counter with Single kick to the legs, that didn't slow diaz down. So it's hard to judge them as being effective. If that type of kick is considered a takedown then fighters could push each other to the ground and be counted too...
It wasn't like Melvin Manhoef's kicks on Lawler, those slowed him down on impact and made him back all fight long.

I think diaz wasn't standing really loose to absorve those kicks, he followed them and it was easier for him to loose his "equilibrum" but received less damage.
edhedicus- January 1, 2012 at 9:43 am
Imagine this scenario.... Brock is 24, fresh out of college, broke, and hungry for success. He catches on with Greg Jackson, and they teach and develop him. We would all be saying "Fedor who?" No doubt that we have missed out on something that could have been very special to all MMA fans. Size, athleticism and desire? YIKES!!!
And time after time, why do people NOT follow a game plan against either DIaz? Yes they are great fighters, so you have to be smarter than them. Is their boxing all that great? NO! Ask Freddie Roach, who may know a thing or two about boxing. They are great punchers, but they move poorly. Last time Nate got beat, he was beaten by a strong game plan which included great movement. Seems as long as the movement stays poor, Nate will always be a high level gate keeper.
Charles Sheen- December 31, 2011 at 9:37 pm
If you like Nate Diaz I have horrible news for you...You're a douche wigger moron with a poop stache.

Dear Donald Cerrone:
You cannot knock out a Diaz. In order to knock someone out they have to have a fucking brain. You need to take them down. But whatever, we still hate Diaz more than you.
Crow42- December 31, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Fucked that give OVEREEM the shot , since some assholes think Brock was a walk in the park
Sad 2 cause no matter what happened Overeem would not have gotten any credit(if he wins, he beat a guy who just survived a Serious disease ) So that's no BIGGIE (If he lost , Hey the steriods LOL and all thoes DULL strike force and K1 wins)
On the Flip side no one has a problem with Brock getting a title shot had he bet the REEM , yet he just LOST it 2 cain not 2 long ago?
Talk about POLITICS , I know Dana WHITE invested MILLIONS on the man beast Brock, But good RIDDANCE he no longer gonna be force down MMA throat
niak- December 31, 2011 at 7:47 pm
damit, i just had to register. dont u guys know that overeem is gonna beat everyone in hw. jds is the onlyone who can be threat to him. Overeem is better then everyone standing, and il bet that noone is gonna take him to the ground ( if they do, his gonna be to hard to have on the ground cus of his strenght ) he is the most complete fighter in hw. Just wait and see, his gonna own whoever meets him. Whoever tries to get him down, will need to get in a clinh. And that means, u will prob get a damn hard knee in the stomach.
RwilsonR- December 31, 2011 at 7:19 pm
@ Get Off Me - I'll have to watch the fight again, because I was drinking heavily, but it did look to me like Cerrone won the 2nd. I didn't see the compustrike stats, but 100-40 in the 2nd doesn't sound right to me. Maybe it is the perception you get after someone is dominated in the first round, then looks better than the really are in the next round because they aren't being dominated quite so badly... a consequence of lowered expectations. But I did really see Cerrone winning round 2. Diaz looked like he was missing and frustrated in that round. I still have no prob with Diaz winning the fight. I'd agree with that. Just thought he lost rd 2 by a small margin.
Lesnars_tiny_pecker_says- December 31, 2011 at 5:08 pm
Wow how fast the prince falls. Half you people were hailing Lesnar as the future not two years ago. You guys are a bunch of nut huggin douche bags. how soon before you all throw out you clutch gear and get some Horse meat by Overeem?
El_Terrible- December 31, 2011 at 2:33 pm
@Angry Whopper
I can see the argument for fighting Cain before getting a title shot, but five victories? Seriously? Lesnar had what, a 1-1 record when he got his shot?
Let's just say for the sake of argument that Cain is the next opponent and Overeem beats him. Then you think, after taking out Lesnar and Velasquez, he should just fight three other guys before getting a title shot? Like who? And who does JDS fight in the meantime?
Angry Whopper- December 31, 2011 at 1:32 pm
I want to see Overeem go through Velazquez before he gets a shot at the title. Actually, I want to see him fight and defeat at least five HWs before taking a run at the title. He needs to earn that shot, and not have it handed to him. JDS earned the shit out of his shot, as did Velazquez with all their consecutive victories in the UFC. Gotta win here to count here, buddy. All the PRIDE and Strikeforce wins in the world don't mean shit in the UFC. Fedor could tell you that, and he got all fucked up fighting guys who had been released from the UFC. The UFC's talent pool is remarkably different, especially in the HW division. Sure, Overeem is a total monster, and his fights will be exciting, but I want to see him win at least five victories in the UFC before getting a title shot.
JewJitsYou- December 31, 2011 at 1:23 pm
While I've long held the opinion that The Reem has had a cherry picked list of opponents one can't deny that he did beat the tar out of a legit top 10 heavyweight with the kind of brutish violence that sends Tank Abbott scrambling for a bottle of lubricant. But I don't think he deserves a title shot yet. The division is too thin on talent and aside from the snoozer he had with Werdum his last 2 MMA wins were over Duffman and Brett Rogers hardly the guys you build a legend off of.I say Mir VS Overeem.
macreadysshack- December 31, 2011 at 1:21 pm
I don't know what alternate reality some of you guys seem to be watching. Brock looked fantastic. Overeem looked better than I've ever seen him in the States. Overeem is an anomoly at heavyweight in that he's a counter-striker. Brock didn't throw much so he didn't, either. The knees he threw in the clinch were just textbook Muay-Thai . . . Lesnar was making the wrestler's mistake of pulling his hips away and that created enough space for Reem to launch those fucking bionic knees into his gut, softening it up.
Other fighters/guys that train on here will be able to tell you . . . sometimes it's not the first, or even the second, body (esp. liver) strike that folds you up like a Japanese Fan. The third or fourth gets in there and NO amount of 'heart', 'toughness', 'determination' is going to keep you from folding up. Something happens in your body like a weird 'kicked in the nuts, punched in the solar plexus and muscle cramp' all at the same time but all on the right side of you abdomen. I don't care who you are - a liver shot can always be the beginning of the end. Recovery can be fairly quick but we've all seen what happens if your opponent is ready to pounce after a liver shot. If they are somehow off-line or out of range, a fighter in a real fight can usually recover enough to guy it out. Too bad Reem was SO ready to smash Brock's face after he crumbled.
At the end of the day, I ignore any 'retirement talk' that happens immediately after a fight. If Brock still wants out in a couple of weeks, I'll buy that. I have tons of respect for Brock but I can't tell you how happy I am that they hulking Dutch good-guy won so convincingly.
Angry Whopper- December 31, 2011 at 1:18 pm
So here's what I got - best remark in the article was that Lesnar likes to beat people up, but doesn't love fighting. If we overlay that idea over his entire career in the UFC, it sums things up perfectly.
Cerrone dropped the ball repeatedly. Failed to follow through on any of the seven times he knocked Diaz down. WTF is up with that? Also, the way he was blocking all those punches with the middle of his face was a bad decision as well.
Fitch didn't do his career any favors last night. None. If he doesn't come back in exactly the same manner that GSP did after losing to Serra, he'll become a tomato can before he knew what happened.
The rest of it, blah-de-blah blah. I still want Overeem to be tested [properly] for steroids and or HGH.
Get Off Me- December 31, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Looks like you gents started the NYE drinking early.
Cerrone won the second round by being outstruck 100-40?
Diaz also attempted two takedowns in the second round to Donald's 0.
A Muay Thai sweep should not be counted as a takedown, I think it is a great avenue to score an ultimate takedown by following your opponent to the ground after he falls, but Cerrone did not do this.
I liked Diaz in this fight for two reasons, his reach over Cerrrone and how Cerrone fought Vagner Rocha(A BJJ black belt). Looking back at the Rocha fight, you see Cerrrone winning the fight, but he got caught by Rocha a few times and absolutely would not go to the ground with him in fear of being submitted(something he underlined in the post fight interview with Rogan).
Despite many giving the striking advantage to Cerrone, it's hard kick against someone who keeps punching you in the face every time you try to plant your legs and set something up.
Diaz landed well over 200 strikes to Cerrone's >100 strikes in that fight.
Happy New Year's guys..Health, wealth and happiness in 2012 for you and your loved ones.
El_Terrible- December 31, 2011 at 1:05 pm
For the past year or so there has been some really amateurish shit published on this site, but this article was excellent.

I think anyone calling Brock a quitter is taking it a little too far, but you're right on with the "Brock likes to beat people up" thing. The only time we've really seen him face adversity and fight back was against Carwin, and I don't think there are many people who would have criticized that fight being stopped in the first round. The second round was a whole new ballgame, and Brock knew it. Other than that, I haven't seen much from him that screamed "intestinal fortitude" to me.

And his stand up may have looked a little improved, but it is still so far below that of the other top heavyweights as to be laughable. Yeah, he cut Overeem with a jab, but to what effect? None.

Anyway, good article, man.
TeilaTuliTooth- December 31, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Lesnar quit from 3 fights in a row, Carwin, Cain and Reem. Diverticulitis or not, no more fucking disappointment from this dude.
He had the skills to rule for many years. But he lacked the heart for the Game of Thrones.. (so drunk) Off to the new year's ! C ya bitches in the final year of our era !!
SouthAfricanMMA- December 31, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Brock was outclassed without a doubt but I disagree that he doesn't have the heart of a champion.

I think the majority of the naysayers do not truly grasp how much diverticulitis takes out of the body ... many have died from the illness.

That Lesnar fought back from not one but two bouts of diverticulitis and returned to the octagon - and his come-from-behind victory over a then unbeaten Shane Carwin - is a testament to his character and heart.

It's not as if he coasted through his training camp, pitched up, took his cheque and bailed. He put his heart and soul into beating Overeem, fell well short, realised it and made the right decision.

Former pro wrestler or not, fast-tracked or not, Lesnar exceeded expectations inside the octagon and did what only a select group of elite fighters have done - won AND successfully defended a UFC championship.

Labeling him a quitter is ludicrous …
Sloppyspray- December 31, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Isn't there a ban on talking about heart?
I don't think questioning Brock's "heart" is accurate nor does it give Brock the credit he deserves. I mean the man came back from a life threatening disease TWICE and fought monsters in the cage. I don't think the man's heart can be questioned. Just because he doesn't like to get hit doesn't mean he doesn't have "heart." BUT, I do agree that this is not for him and he is not a fighter, just someone who likes to beat people up.
dranokills- December 31, 2011 at 12:22 pm
ThePeoplesTroll Says:

Sat, 12/31/11 - 11:49

Does it not take heart to fight off diverticulitis twice? come with no mma background and become the champ? Train through that shit every day and sacrafice family time? Come on guys, give this guy a break. Bully or no bully, if brock wasn’t plagued he would have put up a much better fight and probably wouldn’t have to retire.
the ONLY person of any real rank or matter was randy Couture, and he beat him to become champ...because Randy Couture was a washed up shadow of his old self. Brock outweighed Randy by at least 50 pounds. Before that fight Brock had fought nobodys. the only true top 5 fighter he fought was carwin, and he got lucky, and proved that carwin also didnt have any cardio. face it Brock would have never won another fight. sick or not he was a talentless bum. BRock trained LESS and worse than any other fighter, he was a waste of space, and the only reason he was there was to draw money to the freak show.......and now the circus has left town, good fucking riddance!
Get Off Me- December 31, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Get Off Me Says:
Thu, 12/22/11 - 12:11

As I said a long time ago, Overeem wins if the fight ends in the first round. Brock will win if the fight gets out of the first round.
Brock turtles when he gets hit. Brock may catch a a viscious knee early and be swarmed by the Reem leading to a stoppage.
I think Nate Diaz as the underdog beats Cerrone, Nate’s no joke at 155.
ThePeoplesTroll- December 31, 2011 at 11:49 am
Does it not take heart to fight off diverticulitis twice? come with no mma background and become the champ? Train through that shit every day and sacrafice family time? Come on guys, give this guy a break. Bully or no bully, if brock wasn't plagued he would have put up a much better fight and probably wouldn't have to retire.
warchief65- December 31, 2011 at 11:46 am
Brock took on the best ? I don't think so . And when he did FIGHT one of the best , he turtled . All Dana did was to give him a taste , when he got a full mouth bite , he couldn't handle it . It's like the WWE , which the owner only crowns the most likable wrestler , that's the same thing that Dana did with Brock . It was only money .
bigredscot- December 31, 2011 at 11:46 am
I thought Brock looked fatter than ever (did you see his whole body jiggle with every bodyshot?) He obviously hasn't fully recovered cuz I've never seen him look out of shape(saggy boobs). I think the juice has caught up to him too perhaps. That being said, it was the second time I cheered for him and the second time he lost. Something about him being the underdog or whatever cuz i wanted nothing more than to see him gone from the UFC in the past, but I will be kinda sad to see him go. Overeem still hasn't done anything to make me believe he's anything but overhyped although beating JDS would change that. LOL @fitch, please retire... Was that Nate or Nick last night? Happy dew year!