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“UFC 148: Silva vs Sonnen” Aftermath (Part Two): Seizing (And Destroying) the Moment


Let’s get one thing straight: Last night’s co-main event was by no means a legacy-cementing fight. The legacies of both fighters had been cemented well before last night, with both Forrest Griffin and Tito Ortiz being very influential in the UFC’s push towards the mainstream, being involved in unforgettable fights and holding the light-heavyweight championship. While winning the trilogy would be a nice way to cap off an otherwise lackluster rivalry, it would be nothing more than another “W” in the grand scheme of things. Especially for Tito – while Forrest is arguably worthy of a Hall of Fame induction, Tito already has been inducted.

Which perhaps explained why Tito Ortiz seemed more aggressive throughout the fight: Forrest had little to lose, Tito had nothing to lose. While the aggression of “The People’s Champion” seemed to have Forrest Griffin on the verge of defeat a few times during the fight, in the end it wasn’t enough. For the majority of the fight, Griffin managed to outstrike Ortiz en route to the unanimous decision victory.

Really, there is little more to be said for the actual fight. Two aging veterans entered the cage and performed like aging veterans. Both men looked slow, both men gassed out early, and if it weren’t for the names involved, this fight would have had zero chance of taking home the $75k Fight of the Night honors. If you want to watch the fight again, watch the fight again - if you missed it, you didn’t miss much.

As for the implications of the bout: Does the victory for Forrest Griffin keep him relevant in the light-heavyweight division? Don’t be crazy – Griffin looked unmotivated and admitted to letting himself be lazy throughout the fight. Does the victory improve his chances of getting into the UFC Hall of Fame? Ask Frank Shamrock to comment on whether admission into the UFC Hall of Fame relies strictly on your record. Forrest Griffin’s Hall of Fame credentials begin with his legendary bout against Stephan Bonnar and end with his victory over Rampage Jackson  for the light-heavyweight title. The fact that he jabbed and wheezed his way through three rounds against a fellow aging veteran should be treated for what it is: A footnote in his career. Even if he lost last night, I’d still be convinced that he’ll one day be in the UFC Hall of Fame.

As for his bizarre post-fight decision to walk out of the cage and head towards the locker room? I’ll leave that for you all to debate. To me, what was supposed to be a time for Tito to receive one last ovation from the fans became a collective “WTF” moment for everyone involved. Rather than continuing to focus on Griffin’s antics, let’s put the spotlight back where it belongs. Thank you for the memories, Tito. It’s a shame you went out winning only one of your last nine fights, but your legacy as one of our sport’s greatest light heavyweights had been cemented well before this.

Speaking of legacies, Cung Le certainly improved his with a hard-fought victory over the returning Patrick Cote. The decorated forty year kickboxer and former Strikeforce champion picked up his first victory in the UFC over arguably his toughest test to date. Le used his dynamic striking to outpoint Cote and pull off the upset; although when Cote was able to get inside against Le, he was able to do some damage.

While a victory in the UFC is a feather in the cap of any martial artist, it’s doubtful that Le has too much further to go from here. Aside from being forty years old, he’s also a somewhat one dimensional fighter attempting to make his way through a division with wrestlers like Jake Shields, Chael Sonnen, Chris Weidman and Mark Munoz, just to name a few. Even guys like Michael Bisping, Brian Stann and Alan Belcher are balanced enough to keep Le from the deep end of the division. This isn’t meant to take away anything from Le – it’s a reminder rather that he’s not an answer to the stalemate that has become the UFC middleweight division.

As for the rest of the fights on the main card, they happened. I wish I could say more for them than that, but honestly, there’s nothing that even can be said for them. Sorry, Maia fans, but I’m not going to act like a forty-seven second freak injury tells us anything about Demian Maia‘s attempt to rejuvenate his career by dropping to welterweight. Likewise, we’ve literally said since the booking of the fight that Mendes vs. McKenzie was a ridiculous mismatch. The fact that it ended the way it did, a thirty-second body shot KO, proved it. Also, Easton vs. Menjivar provided fans exactly what they expected: A fast paced unanimous decision that has become par for the course whenever the bantamweights are in the cage. Easton came out on top, looking good, but not great. Expect at least one more victory from Easton before he’s trusted with a title shot. Meanwhile, Menjivar drops to 24-9 in his career, and will be back to the drawing board after winning three straight in the UFC before last night.

Previously: “UFC 148: Silva vs Sonnen” Aftermath (Part I): Tough Talk Sold the Fight, But the Tougher Fighter Finished It


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Daoulas- July 9, 2012 at 3:23 pm
Steven Seagal needs to be honored? wtf are you talking about man. honored for what? being a douche bag piece of shit that thinks hes the best fighter in the whole world.
listen to any one of his interviews- enough said
XENOPHON- July 9, 2012 at 7:43 am
@ RsparroW - Steven Seagal needs to be honored, not mocked by a bird. If that clown with a "Mask" can be inducted into the UFC "Hall of Fame", so can Master Sensei Steven Seagal. Best way to honor him today is a Cage Potato special edition T-Shirt (ill help with the art selection.) If the artwork was done right, I would purchase one and wear it proudly.

2. Agreed, UFC production fuck up from the audiences perspective - but it sealed the lid on Tito. Don't think Dana didn't intentionally allow - and even went to far as to chase down Forrest and order him to get back in that ring - to send Tito a going away mind fuck for all the shit talked.

3. Agreed

4. Huh, based off what you said, Munoz has the power punch to do the job, and the wrestling skills if he can remember the use them. I think he would fail, in mere fact that he would waste too much time on the outside and be picked apart before even taking the shot.
RSparrow- July 8, 2012 at 8:31 pm
1. Steven Seagal is the biggest douchebag in the history of everything. Like I said before, hes the little kid at the birthday party that blows the candles out when its not even his birthday. Complete fucking tool, and I'd like to start a ban where we dont even mention this d bag and give him the attention he so desperately wants.

2. I think it was very disrespectful and douchey how Forrest took the microphone at the end of the fight. Reminded me of Kanye West, and even though I'm not a big Tito fan, Tito deserved a better final interview after all he's done.

3. Chael completely goofed with his wreckless spinning backfist embarrasment. Not sure what he was thinking, but he lost his mental focus. He actually had a shot of being in the fight if he would have kept his composure.

4. I think Anderson is great, no doubt, but still think his time is coming. Hasn't fought a lot of of good wrestlers, and is the champion of arguably the weakest division in the UFC. I think Stann, Munoz, or Lombard will have his number.
NomadRip- July 9, 2012 at 6:01 am
Isn't Dan Henderson a good wrestler?
NomadRip- July 9, 2012 at 6:00 am
Regarding Tito, there's a nice piece on MMAFighting called "UFC 148 Aftermath: Karma Catches Up With Tito Ortiz" that helped me to get over Forrest's antics pretty quick. Here's a quote:

"Ortiz interrupted Griffin's post-fight interview at UFC 59 in Anaheim, after Ortiz took a split-decision win. At UFC 106, Ortiz stole Griffin's shine after the latter's victory by complaining about his injuries on the mic and claiming a phantom cracked skull. This came about after weeks of Ortiz saying he had never been in better shape in his life.

And those are just the moments from the Griffin trilogy.

That doesn't even account for earlier incidents in Tito's career, like when he left the cage and ran through the crowd before the decision was announced in his UFC 51 split-decision win over Vitor Belfort."

Also, at the press conference, Tito insulted Ariel Helwani and refused to answer his questions. Total dick move. Right after that, he answered some question by saying how he wanted to get away from his Bad Boy image with the fans and the press. You're doing it wrong,'re doing it wrong.
XENOPHON- July 8, 2012 at 2:27 pm
@SF - I got your back on that Griffin - Ortiz nonsense fight. Tito did the right thing up in Big Bear, but when you looked at the final punch stats, Forrest seemed to deliver 2-3 times as much in his attack.

As for Forrest, he is a spaz with zeroed out power. The only props he gets is that when he was mounted he flailed around enough to confound and shut down Tito.

They should have have both retired last night.

Prediction: If we get stuck with another Bonnar vs. Griffin fight, Bonnar will destroy Forrest.
jimbonics- July 8, 2012 at 1:39 pm
What Get Off Me said. All of it.
Joedirt- July 8, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Hall of fame for the UFC is stupid... it's about 15 years early.
Get Off Me- July 8, 2012 at 1:02 pm
"Really, there is little more to be said for the actual fight. Two aging veterans entered the cage and performed like aging veterans. Both men looked slow, both men gassed out early, and if it weren’t for the names involved, this fight would have had zero chance of taking home the $75k Fight of the Night honors. If you want to watch the fight again, watch the fight again - if you missed it, you didn’t miss much."

YELLOW CARD-that was a good fight and FOTN worthy.

"Sorry, Maia fans, but I’m not going to act like a forty-seven second freak injury tells us anything about Demian Maia’s attempt to rejuvenate his career by dropping to welterweight."

FLAG-Maia looked like he did against Sonnen last night and that is something to get excited about. He took possibly the biggest WW in the division and stopped his throws by implementing his style.Injury or not, Maia was going to end up in full mount looking to finish(dave herman). Maia looked good and did exactly what I thought, the fight just ended early. I think Maia is going to do well at WW, could be the sleeper.
SethF- July 8, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Nurmagomedov vs. Tibau, FTW, suck it, come at me bro; etc.
Get Off Me- July 8, 2012 at 1:10 pm
Go read the gambling addiction enabler if you also want to catch a recap of 8 of the ten fights last night.