Comments on: Redefining Success For The Ultimate Fighter http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:09:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Rob http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-10068 Rob Thu, 22 May 2008 11:37:41 +0000 http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-10068 its easy to understand why ratings are dropping. the biggest star in the ufc (Liddell) is 1-2. not too mention even espn covered the fact that captain america was being jerked out of money by the ufc its easy to understand why ratings are dropping.

the biggest star in the ufc (Liddell) is 1-2. not too mention even espn covered the fact that captain america was being jerked out of money by the ufc

]]> By: bump http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9872 bump Tue, 20 May 2008 19:19:43 +0000 http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9872 They should do a season with nothing but pro wrestlers if they want ratings. I hate my idea, but it would work. They should do a season with nothing but pro wrestlers if they want ratings. I hate my idea, but it would work.

]]> By: C-Bus Allstar http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9868 C-Bus Allstar Tue, 20 May 2008 18:48:49 +0000 http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9868 LOL @ Smoking weed after developing a crack habit I think Sarah's got the right of it. I, myself, have bought a PPV, (I really only got it to see Serra get stomped by GSP), and now I watch the show and I'm just like, man, these guys are so afraid of getting kicked off the show that they don't do anything interesting anymore. I remember the Upper Decker, I remember Jared Rollins kicking in the door after War Machine did the Upper Decker.. But I don't remember any of the regular season fights. I think they should give the guys a little more freedom to destroy shit, that's good TV right there. LOL @ Smoking weed after developing a crack habit

I think Sarah’s got the right of it. I, myself, have bought a PPV, (I really only got it to see Serra get stomped by GSP), and now I watch the show and I’m just like, man, these guys are so afraid of getting kicked off the show that they don’t do anything interesting anymore. I remember the Upper Decker, I remember Jared Rollins kicking in the door after War Machine did the Upper Decker.. But I don’t remember any of the regular season fights.

I think they should give the guys a little more freedom to destroy shit, that’s good TV right there.

]]> By: Aryan http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9842 Aryan Tue, 20 May 2008 14:44:19 +0000 http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9842 They need to get creative. Through some hot chicks in there. The winners get the chicks They need to get creative. Through some hot chicks in there. The winners get the chicks

]]> By: sarah http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9839 sarah Tue, 20 May 2008 14:04:48 +0000 http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9839 i think ronnie dobbs is on to something... many of the former TUF watchers have "graduated" from watching the show to enjoying PPVs and fight nights instead. now that they're more familiar with the sport, they recognize the talent better and have moved past watching beginners. it's like an intro class on MMA. in this way, then, TUF is sort of a gateway drug for MMA. people not familiar with the sport like it for the reality show gimmick, but then get drawn into the sport and start dropping $40 on the PPVs, $80 for a t-shirt, $200 for tickets. after that, TUF seems a bit slow for their tastes, like smoking weed after you've established a crack habit. it's smart. i think ronnie dobbs is on to something…

many of the former TUF watchers have “graduated” from watching the show to enjoying PPVs and fight nights instead. now that they’re more familiar with the sport, they recognize the talent better and have moved past watching beginners. it’s like an intro class on MMA.

in this way, then, TUF is sort of a gateway drug for MMA. people not familiar with the sport like it for the reality show gimmick, but then get drawn into the sport and start dropping $40 on the PPVs, $80 for a t-shirt, $200 for tickets. after that, TUF seems a bit slow for their tastes, like smoking weed after you’ve established a crack habit.

it’s smart.

]]> By: alan http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9833 alan Tue, 20 May 2008 10:23:06 +0000 http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9833 lol m not even gonna watch s8 lol m not even gonna watch s8

]]> By: seamus http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9825 seamus Tue, 20 May 2008 07:59:18 +0000 http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9825 What does it matter if Forrest has a personality or not? (which he has) the show is about the fighters not the coaches, I think they train so much in the weeks in the house they have nothing left when it comes to fight! Look at warmachine and Jarred last year, they did nothing during the show due to being wrecked all the time and after they had a couple of months rest after the show their fight was one of the best I have seen to date! All in all the talent in the house is pretty much non existant, Mac Danzig has been the best talent in a long time!!! What does it matter if Forrest has a personality or not? (which he has) the show is about the fighters not the coaches, I think they train so much in the weeks in the house they have nothing left when it comes to fight! Look at warmachine and Jarred last year, they did nothing during the show due to being wrecked all the time and after they had a couple of months rest after the show their fight was one of the best I have seen to date! All in all the talent in the house is pretty much non existant, Mac Danzig has been the best talent in a long time!!!

]]> By: luke http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9824 luke Tue, 20 May 2008 07:48:52 +0000 http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9824 I still look forward to TUF every week but this year while they seem to have reduced the rehashing of the last fight and what happened on last week's show during the first 10 mins of the show this season, which is great, they seem to have concentrated more on just the fights. This leaves less time for training and house airtime, which is when you get to know the fighters, and actually start to care about them, and this season I feel like I dont really know or care about any of the fighters. I'll still watch this season and tune in for next season, but I hope they find a better balance of fighting, training and house time. I still look forward to TUF every week but this year while they seem to have reduced the rehashing of the last fight and what happened on last week’s show during the first 10 mins of the show this season, which is great, they seem to have concentrated more on just the fights.

This leaves less time for training and house airtime, which is when you get to know the fighters, and actually start to care about them, and this season I feel like I dont really know or care about any of the fighters.

I’ll still watch this season and tune in for next season, but I hope they find a better balance of fighting, training and house time.

]]> By: pfid http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9822 pfid Tue, 20 May 2008 07:17:40 +0000 http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9822 Disliking the show because of a lack of start talent or the lack of big personalities misses the whole point of the show. If you are a true MMA fan (and/or an MMA practitioner), you would focus your attention on their training and the fights (good or bad). The only drama you should care about is the difficult time they have in doing what they are doing, and how well they deal with the pressure. Rather than watch coaches with big personalities bicker, and knuckle heads smash up a house, I like the show for more subtle reasons, such as watching a young fighter that thinks he's a bad ass realize he's not (or is). Seeing how the person deals with a set back (or success) and what happens to them in the future is interesting and should be for any true fan. The new format (i.e. fighting to get into the house) has improved things exponentially in my opinion and while that might not be enough to attract a more general audience, who cares? Hopefully that will just mean less generic reality show bullshit to appease the masses and more catering to the serious MMA fans. Disliking the show because of a lack of start talent or the lack of big personalities misses the whole point of the show. If you are a true MMA fan (and/or an MMA practitioner), you would focus your attention on their training and the fights (good or bad). The only drama you should care about is the difficult time they have in doing what they are doing, and how well they deal with the pressure. Rather than watch coaches with big personalities bicker, and knuckle heads smash up a house, I like the show for more subtle reasons, such as watching a young fighter that thinks he’s a bad ass realize he’s not (or is). Seeing how the person deals with a set back (or success) and what happens to them in the future is interesting and should be for any true fan. The new format (i.e. fighting to get into the house) has improved things exponentially in my opinion and while that might not be enough to attract a more general audience, who cares? Hopefully that will just mean less generic reality show bullshit to appease the masses and more catering to the serious MMA fans.

]]> By: Ronnie Dobbs http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9792 Ronnie Dobbs Tue, 20 May 2008 01:09:13 +0000 http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/05/19/redefining-success-for-the-ultimate-fighter/#comment-9792 Maybe the crowd that TUF drew a couple years ago ordered a few PPVs over the years and now see the difference between world-class and good local-level fighters. I'll keep watching, but it's run its course. Maybe the crowd that TUF drew a couple years ago ordered a few PPVs over the years and now see the difference between world-class and good local-level fighters. I’ll keep watching, but it’s run its course.

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