“UFC 86: Jackson vs. Griffin” — Blow by Blow
Rampage and Opie battle for the light-heavyweight belt, Cote and Alemeida scrap for the #1 middleweight contender spot, Joe Stevenson tries to keep his blood inside his head, Josh Koscheck and Chris Lytle try to make it two in a row…and that’s pretty much it. Not an awesome card, but UFN 14 is just two weeks from now, and sometimes quantity is quality. Results from the UFC 86 undercard and live updates from the PPV broadcast are after the jump; refresh your browser every few minutes to read all the latest, and share your reactions in the comments section.
UNDERCARD RESULTS
Justin Buchholz def. Corey Hill via submission (rear-naked choke), 3:57 of round 2
Melvin Guillard def. Dennis Silver via TKO, 0:36 of round 1
Cole Miller def. Jorge Gurgel via submission (triangle choke), 4:48 of round 3
Gabriel Gonzaga def. Justin McCully via submission (kimura), 1:57 of round 1
We are back in beautiful Las Vegas, Nevada, and the light-heavyweight title is on the line. Mike Goldberg says “this card is stacked top-to-bottom.” LOFL!
Tyson Griffin vs. Marcus Aurelio
Griffin comes out to “Eye of the Tiger.” A bold statement. But then again, he’s predicting a stoppage win at the end of the first round, so it’s a bold kind of night for him overall.
Round 1: Aurelio gets a light right hook in after some feeling-out. Crowd booing after 45 seconds, but Griffin shuts ‘em up with a right hook to Aurelio’s dome. Griffin misses a leg kick. Griffin trips Aurelio down and throws in a punch. Aurelio trying to work sub attemtps from the guard while Griffin punches from his feet. Aurelio grabs Griffin’s arm and wraps his legs around him in high guard. Upkick by Aurelio, then he kicks Griffin off after some shots traded on the ground. Back on the feet, Griffin throws a good punch combo. Hard leg kick by Griffin, then a hard punch to the body. Another leg kick, and one more. Aurelio shoots, but is rebuffed by Griffin, who clinches against the cage until the bell rings. Probably a 10-9 round for Griffin.
Thiago Alves is in Aurelio’s corner. “Proud Brazilian, speak the Portuguesa,” says Goldberg.
Round 2: Leg kicks from Griffin stagger Aurelio. Griffin’s looking sharp, landing some tight punches. Aurelio’s reach advantage is being totally negated. Aurelio rushes in for a takedown and Griffin clinches him against the cage, as before. Griffin working knees to Aurelio’s legs, and foot stomps. Aurelio gives a couple knees right back. Griffin slams Aurelio after a breif stalemate. Aurelio reverses, gets up, and takes Griffin’s back. Griffin rolls and gets on top, throwing some punches to the head. Aurelio nearly gets a triangle, and hits Griffin with an upkick when Griffin shakes out. Big elbow to Aurelio’s face. Aurelio controls Griffin’s body as the round comes to an end, and Griffin bounces back to his corner, very fresh. The round was definitely Griffin’s.
In the audience, Criss Angel is identified, but not Sully from Godsmack. Joe Rogan is offended.
Round 3: Griffin with a leg kick and a right hook. Aurelio shoots but Griffin sprawls. Good punch combo from Griffin. The pace is slowing down a bit, but Griffin is still ownung the standup exchanges. Another takedown attempt from Aurelio is stuffed. Griffin nails Aurelio with a punch, but Aurelio gives one back. Griffin looks like his leg might be hurting him, but he shoots for a takedown and gets it. Aurelio grabs an arm and nearly stretches Griffin out. And again. Griffin frees his arm and throws down an elbow. The last bell sounds as Aurelio continues to threaten Griffin’s arm.
Tyson Griffin wins the unanimous decision, with all three judges scoring it 30-27.
Josh Koscheck vs. Chris Lytle
Round 1: Lytle whiffs on some big punches and a kick. Koscheck staying “elusive.” Lytle taps a leg kick and lands a body kick. More swinging and missing from Lytle, who’s being the aggressor. Kos ain’t pulling the trigger. Kos throws a head kick, falls on his ass, then pops back up. Lytle gets a body kick in; Kos takes Lytle down but almost falls into a guillotine. Koscheck in Lytle’s half-guard. Lytle kicks Koscheck off, but Kos dives back on, in Lytle’s full guard. Koscheck landing a couple strikes from the top. Lytle rolls, Kos briefly takes his back, then Lytle rolls again and Kos is back in his guard. A couple hammer fists from the top from Kos as the round ends. A slow and uneventful round that the judges probably gave to Josh.
Round 2: Leg kick from Koscheck. Koscheck goes for the single-leg takedown, gets it briefly but Lytle springs up and takes a knee in return. Koscheck takes Lytle down again and almost gets caught in a guillotine again. Koscheck pops out and throws some shots down on Lytle against the cage. Lytle’s cut. Koscheck with a slashing elbow from the top. More shots; things are looking bad for Lytle. Koscheck is just teeing off; Lytle’s blood flies onto a camera lens. Yeesh, that’s distasteful. The cameraman wipes it off as Koscheck continues to rain down damage. Lytle’s face is Stevenson-esque. Koscheck drops about a dozen light punches into Lytle’s head as the round ends. Lytle has trouble getting to his feet, but his corner tells him “you’re fine, you’re fine, you’re fine Chris.”
Joe Rogan remembers Marvin Eastman’s cut as “like a goat’s vagina.”
Round 3: Lytle is wobbly. Koscheck shoots in and pushes Lytle against the cage. Koscheck takes Lytle down, Lytle again goes for the guillotine, Koscheck spins out. Lytle tries for it again, Kos gets out again. Koscheck puts Lytle against the cage again and throws down more elbows. This is one of the bloodiest UFC fights of all time. There are big puddles on the mat. There’s no way Lytle can see through it. Koscheck’s elbow is covered in gore. A couple more punches, and Yves Lavigne stands them up. Barbarian! Everyone thought it was going to be a stoppage. Lytle swings hard and almost gets Kos in trouble with punches. They clinch, Koscheck trying to ride out the clock. Yves separates them against the cage and Lytle throws every punch he has left at Koscheck. Kos survives it. The horn sounds. Fucking bloodbath.
Josh Koscheck wins the unanimous decision, and is booed loudly by the crowd.
I was referring to Aurelio as “Almeida” in the 2nd round of the Griffin fight? Cripes. Fixed now.
Joe Stevenson vs. Gleison Tibau
Tibau comes out to “Iron Man.” Props. And he looks huge for a lightweight.
Round 1: Stevenson sticks Tibau with a jab. He lands another punch, dives on and almost sinks on a guillotine. Tibau gets out, and almost gets an anaconda choke. Back on the feet, clinching against the cage. Tubau takes Stevenson down, but Stevenson gets back up. Stevenson dirty boxes his way out of the clinch, then rushes back in for a double-leg takedown. Tibau working his guard, and clamps on an omoplata. Joe’s in trouble. Tibau throwing some punches at Stevenson’s head. Stevenson is just sitting there in a stalemate, waiting for a good moment to pop out. Stevenson can’t do anything, but he’s not getting submitted. He rides the clock out.
Joe Rogan says “chess match” like three times.
Round 2: Tibau lands a left hook. Stevenson rushes forward and pushes Tibau against the cage. Tibau takes Stevenson down briefly, but Joe bounces back up. Tibau gets another takedown and passes into side control, then full mount. Stevenson bucks to get out, and does. Back on the feet. Tibau gets a takedown, but falls into an arm-in guillotine. Joe uses his Daddy-strength to crush out a submission despite the arm. Wow.
The official call: 2:57 of the second round. ‘Bout time we had a stoppage. Stevenson shouts out his son and said he had a bone-bruise coming into the fight.
Patrick Cote vs. Ricardo Almeida
Cote says he doesn’t care if Almeida trained “with Gracie, or the Pope, or whoever.” Yes, because the Pope is notorious for his ground game. Almeida comes out to “Fortunate Son.” Double-props.
Round 1: Almeida goes for a flying guillotine, and pulls Cote into his guard. Damn! Almeida seems to be looking for a gogo, but Cote gets out and to his feet. Almeida ties Cote up, looking for a takedown. Cote tries to shake out, but Almeida is tenacious with his clinch. Finally, he gets the takedown. Almeida on top, throwing some shots, with Cote trying to keep some distance with his legs. Almeida in Cote’s half-guard, punching Cote in the ribs. Cote attempting to upkick after pushing Almeida off, but Almeida closes the distance, lands a couple punches and returns to Cote’s full guard. Almeida returns to his feet, throwing shots down from a distance. The horn sounds; the round was all Almeida.
Almeida’s glove is torn, and is re-taped. It’s not good enough. Finally, Herb Dean says it’s cool.
Round 2: Cote pops Almeida with a punch. Almeida drags Cote to his guard, and into “crackhead control” (feet around Cote’s neck), but Cote slips out and gets up. Almeida is dropping his hands a bit too much; bad opponent for that strategy. Cote lands a nice right straight from a clinch. Cote pushing the pace with punches, and winning the round. Almeida clinches and falls to the ground, but Cote avoids. Almeida with another clinch against the cage; the crowd gets antsy. Almeida tried for the flying guillotine after a clinch, but Cote gets out. Cote bumrushes Almeida, who falls to his back after taking a punch, and the horn sounds.
Round 3: More clinching. Cote snaps a leg kick after they separate. And another hard one that staggers Almeida. Almeida is not looking great in this fight. Cote misses on a punch combo, then eats a jab. Good leg kick from Cote, and another. Slow round, but Cote’s on his way to winning the fight. Almeida lands a punch, and absorbs a leg kick. Cote pushes forward, fists first. Almeida chases back and hits air, but he scores a takedown. Cote pushes off, but Almeida attempts a choke. Cote gets on top as the round ends. Kind of a tossup, but it may go to Cote for aggression.
Talk about a fight that didn’t live up to the hype. Both men are far from ready for Anderson Silva.
The scores are 29-28 Cote, 29-28 Almeida, and 29-28 Cote. Cote takes the split decision.
Our man Gerald Harris is in Rampage’s dressing room running through some grappling drills. WAR HARRIS!!!
Bangkok Dangerous commercial, yo. Nicolas Cage is in it, and he picks the worst fucking movies to star in lately. This does not bode well.
Quinton Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin
Forrest, as usual, comes out to “Shipping Up to Boston” by the Dropkick Murphys, and the white people in attendance are psyched. Rampage walks out and gets in the face of Wilmer Valderamma, who maybe pisses his pants. War Fes? Griffin smiles in the cage, while Rampage looks deathly serious. David Spade and Mandy Moore are in the audience. Not together, of course. Yves Lavigne is reffing this one. Big responsibility for the Frenchman.
Round 1: Both guys exchange punches. Forrest slips in a leg kick. Forrest throws a head kick off Rampage’s glove. Forrest gets another leg kick, and a body kick, wisely keeping his distance. Rampage whiffs a haymaker. Rampage nails him with a left hook, then a knee. Griffin throws some kicks. He lands two leg kicks. Big punches from Rampage, then a leg kick. Griffin fires back with some punches of his own. Griffin punches out of a brief clinch. Griffin lands a nice left hook, then a leg kick. Rampsge punches Forrest to the ground. Rampage pushes Forrest against the cage on the ground. Rampage in Forrest’s closed guard, landing some punches as Griffin gets to his feet. Punches landed by both men in an exchange. Great first round. Hard to call; Forrest got rocked and knocked to the ground, but he controlled the majority of the round.
Round 2: Griffin fires off two leg kicks that clearly hurt Rampage. Forrest scores two big knees in a clinch and takes Rampage down! Forrest in Rampage’s half-guard. Forrest trying to work some short elbows from the top. Forrest passes to side control, and briefly goes for an Americana. More short elbows. Rampage is lost on his back. Another Americana attempt, then Forrest passes to full mount, dropping punches and elbows. Total domination by Forrest, who’s a relentless blanket of doom on Rampage. The horn sounds. 10-8 round? Rampage lookin’ rough in his corner, getting his bum knee iced.
Round 3: Inside leg kick from Forrest, who then misses a head kick. Rampage gets him with a hard punch and Forrest backs up. Rampage misses some punches, then lands some nasty ones. Forrest misses a leg kick, then gets one on Rampage’s thigh. Rampage catches Forrest with a right. Rampage looking a little better now, finding his rhythm with the punches. Both men clash with punches. Forrest’s leg kicks are looking a little weaker. Good 1-2 combo from Rampage, and a solid body shot. Injside leg kick from Forrest. Rampage tags him with a left hook. Forrest pushes forward with punches, and Rampages blasts right back. Much closer round, that possibly belonged to Rampage.
Round 4: Rampage scores a hard punch combo, and another in a clinch. Forrest goes for a takedown but falls onto his back. Forrest is cut. Forrest going for a triangle; it’s sunk in, but Rampage slams out of it, Arona style! Rampage back on top on the ground. Big cut over Forrest’s eye. Rampage gets an elbow in, but not much else. Forrest gets to his feet but gets caught with a big punch on the way up. Forrest throwing some kicks that miss. Rampage gets in two more big punches. And two more as the bell rings.
Stitch rubs a glob of goo in Forrest’s gaping cut.
Round 5: Leg kick from Forrest, and another. Rampage scores with a punch. Two more leg kicks from Forrest. And another big one. Rampage with a big right hand, and Forrest answers with his own. Forrest brushes Rampage back with a head kick. He’s clearly the aggressor in this round. More leg kicks from Forrest, but Rampage scores a head/body punch combo. Big right hand from Forrest. Rampage gets in his own. Rampage’s leg is clearly bothering him, but his punches still look dangerous. Knee from Forrest in the clinch, and an uppercut from Rampage. And they slug it out in the closing seconds to the bell. Amazing fight.
The official decision, people. 48-46, 48-46, 49-46 all to Forrest Griffin. OPIE IS THE NEW LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION! Forrest Jardine’d Rampage to death!
Forrest says that he was never “hurt-hurt,” but every punch Rampage threw “hurt.”
Rampage said “he jacked my leg up. I tried to pretend, I ain’t that good at acting.” He says his leg got a chance to recover when he was on the ground all through the 2nd. Afterparty at Prive! Rampage vows to never take that much time off from the cage ever again, and limps off.
They’re showing the Guillard/Siver fight now. Guillard rocks Siver to the ground right off the bell, but Siver gets to his feet. Two dead-on punches knock Siver to the ground, and Guillard jackhammer-punches him into unconsciousness. By default, he’s getting the Knockout of the Night bonus. “He didn’t even get a chance to say uncle,” Guillard quips.
Submission of the Night goes to Cole Miller for his triangle choke of Jorge Gurgel in the fight’s closing seconds. Well done.
Joe Rogan talks about a Rampage/Wanderlei rematch like it’s already booked. Feel our goosebumps! And that’s the end of the broadcast. So, maybe a solid 3 out of 10 overall, but the main event delivered all it could short of a knockout. Good night, and good luck…
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July 5th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Miller submits Jorge Gurgel??? I gotta see that one. Hopefully there are a bunch of K.O.s and they show it after the main event.
July 5th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
cole miller will one day rule the lightweights.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
was wondering if yous guys were even gonna do this thing…depression was setting in…not even the Thunder was helping…and that says a lot.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
@ the glza
Read the sherdog play by play. Miller barely pulled it off.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
yeah, well he’s not there yet, but he’s got the heart and the skills will develop. he’s a diamond in the rough right now… but mark my words.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
Marcus really disappointed me.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Thank you for the play by play. I love it I really do, but please no undercard results! Some of the undercard fights make it on to the ppv and I like to watch those fights without knowing who wins…Thanks!
p.s.
Yes, I skip over the results, but can’t help seeing them when someone leaves a comment
July 5th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Had Cole to win…. well it was more Gurgel to lose
July 5th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
Tyson griffin is a good fighter but cant ever finish a fight. Tyson “Decision” Griffin. Like his 5th decision in a row. He wins but needs to start knocking people out or submitting.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
apparantly almeida took over for aurelio in the 2nd round
July 5th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Yeah CP you substituted Almeida for Aurelio in the second round post…might want to edit it.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
can I get some more fight with my blood?
July 5th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Tyson Griffin is the most boring LW in the UFC, but he keeps winning, so they are stuck with him…I gaurantee you though if he loses two in row he is gone….He is Randy’s little leprachaun and he can’t finish fights I am sure Dana is itchin to can that midget.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
I thought Marvin Eastmans’ cut looked more like Tim Sylvia’s Vagina…..
July 5th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Lytle was slippin on his own blood there trying to punch Koschek -
If his blood hadn’t been there he would’ve knocked Josh out!
July 5th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
now why the hell would koscheck get booed, its not like he was the one getting his ass kicked or not duking it out enough……….
July 5th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
holy crap. so much blood
July 5th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
I was disappointed by Lytle. He never let his hands go. His stand up is better than what he showed.
July 5th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
Someone plese tell me that Rogan did not comment on Griffin’s “Ba-dunk-a-dunk” again. In a sea of gay ass comments that one has to be the great white whale.
July 5th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
WAR FUKIN STEVENSON…YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
gotta wonder about Rogan sometimes.
July 5th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
“Someone plese tell me that Rogan did not comment on Griffin’s “Ba-dunk-a-dunk” again. In a sea of gay ass comments that one has to be the great white whale.”
LMAO..no. But they did comment again on his “tree trunk” legs. LOL
July 5th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
The Pope is a stand up specialist….
July 5th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
I really hoped lytle would pull it out in the 3rd.
“That’s what she said”
July 5th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
War Almeida
July 5th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Go joe all hail to fedor…………
July 5th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
POPE BY ARMBAR!
July 5th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
lol The Pope has that old man strength–beware his crucifix neck crank!
July 5th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
The pope would destroy any 60 lb 12 year old via front naked triangle
July 5th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
He would first have to attract the boy with candy in his pope mobile
July 5th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
DON’T TELL ME ONE OF THESE BUMS IS IN LINE FOR A TITLE SHOT AFTER THIS
July 5th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Yeah but I wont complain…Cote comes from my hometown :p
July 5th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
when are they going to allow run-in interference with miscellaneous weapons? id like to see royce gracie BJJ his way out of a chair shot once in a while….
July 5th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Yeah why would Dana put either one of theseguys in the cage with the Spider….what a waste!!
July 5th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
for the people who were to lazy to go out or to cheap to buy it heres a live stream http://www.justin.tv/ufc_fan, quality isnt to shabby lol
July 5th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
BLEAKOMEN-that was retarded…go wrap your mouth around a curb close by and have a close buddy stomp on the back of your head….just a little advice.
July 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
This should be better…
Man, this card’s been worse than I thought it’d be
July 5th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
What a joke. Rampage owned that fight. he only lost 1 round. maby 1 was a tie.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
I lost some billzzz tonight, son.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
MEMO to Juanito Ibarra….
When might we expect to receive your letter announcing your intention to retire from the sport of MMA?
July 5th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
YES!!!! I won some Gub’ment cheese on this one…I knew he was going outwork that lazy bum….that fight was all FORREST!!!!
July 5th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
WOW. WOW. I can’t believe Forest won it. I was really torn between who I wanted to win. Both guys are hilarious, have great fights, and seem like deserving champions. Grats to Forest, I can’t wait to watch the fight again. Hope to see Rampage as the champ again in the future though.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
rampage bet his whole purse that it wouldn’t go to a decision guess he working for free
July 5th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
ty Assgoblin!
incredible…Griffin damn sure earned that decision…he’s a worker.
WAR GUMP!
gotta love Jackson’s honesty and humility- “He whooped my ass!”
July 5th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
Weird. Is Rampage becoming as unpredictable in his aggressiveness as Vitor Belfort? Or is that Hollywood lifestyle catching up to him? He just lost a fight he could have won. They might as well hand Machida the belt now and call it a day.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
I definitely knew Forrest won when it came to the judges — and I was happy as hell.
Here’s to the winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
July 5th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
He’s right…
He shouldn’t take 9 months off again…
but he was milkin being a champion for as long as he could!
July 5th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
i lost some respect for the ufc tonight… Affliction please be good!
July 5th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
forrest didnt win, they gave him the belt, thats all. the fight is there for everyone to see and it was clear that forrest won round 2. the rest was all page and i dont even am a page fan. really disgusted by this.. i thought this only happened in boxing but i was wrong.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Didnt know you could win fights by leg kicking someone to death. UFC loves there poster boys, just like bisping and hamill. Rampage won 1,3,4 griffin wins 2,5. Griffin wins 2nd round 10-8. Should have been a draw. You other d bags who see it differently are retarded.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
GHAAA!! How is it no one is pissed about Rampage getting ROBBED!! Forrest wins ONE round and they give him the title? What a crock of S#!T I am so PISSED!!
July 5th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Dude this sucks, all of those white people were fucking racists! rampage won that shit and they took it from him! yet almost noone of you fucks say anything about it. you racists pieces of shit! Invert the fighter colors and you would see all hell brake loose! this is why the world hate america. your nothing but fucking racists pigs! go to hell!
July 5th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
I guess its cool when you can win one round and become champ. I dont know why everyone hates on Jackson, that dude is funny as hell. Forrest has a chin and heart, i guess thats all it takes to rob someone of the LHW belt
July 5th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Rampage admitted that he lost?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
it was so clear cut that rampage won a blind man could see it. ufc just wants to validate ufc fighter and its fighters it puts out. Dana white only got rid of jesse
mongo taylor because he is a ground and hold fighter and he hates that, he said that in first episode. So why wouldn’t ufc want a ufc fighter poster boy. Dana white will always make sure what he wants happens.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Rampage won every round but the 2nd.
That was an absolute ABORTION of a decision!
I’m almost ashamed to call myself an MMA fan. To take a champion’s belt, one must deliver a decisive performance. Dan did better against Rampage than Forrest did.
F**k Dana White, and F**k UFC. I watch MMA to see fights that AREN’T fixed.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
This as to be the most outrageous decision yet on mma. The guy won all the fight with one leg and they took it from him? This gotta be a joke.. i like forrest and rampage but this was totally bias, no way around it. This turned me off UFC, i gonna buy afflition ppv and fuck UFC. And the people booing rampage? Sometimes i am ashamed of being white dude, it seems like 90% of us only see colors not people.. :S
July 5th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
I really like both Griffin and Rampage a lot but I really didn’t think Forrest won that fight. I Thought it was going to be a split decision with Rampage coming out the victor. As much as people blogging on this site said that they weren’t excited about this fight, I was very satisfied with it. It went the way I thought it would other than the decision. I’m looking forward to Rampage-Griffin 2 cuz if I know Dana White even a lil bit, this match is going to happen eventually.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
All you fuckwads claiming Rampage won that fight have clearly never, EVER heard of the 10 point must system. Or, to be more simplistic, the way fights are scored. According to the rules there is no possible way that Rampage won that fight.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Rampage def lost that fight- he couldnt do anything on the ground- got his leg hurt-which took his only real weapon away, his power- he didnt even try to get forest off of him in the second- i like both fighters but forest def showed he could strike, take a hit- grind page on the ground and with a pretty nice gash on his brow-
July 5th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
what a fuckin fight thats all i gotta say..only god can judge..but i dont think there is a god so no one can judge
July 5th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
I was happy to see forrest win, the guy is a class act and a good person. but i must agree. i dont know what fight some people watched but in this fight griffen won the 2nd round and that was that. This should be reviewed by someone with authority and give the decision to jackson because this will turn many people who also loved rampage off the UFC. You cant let a champion who was loved and famous all around the world, with a great personality and sense of humor get robbed like that, its bad for business. i can tell you that me and my friends are happy with forrest winning but not like this because he didnt win, he lost. And neither me or my friends are blind or stupid.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
No doubt that F. Griffin was standing at the end, and any fan of his could muster up an argument that he won. Although from an impartial standpoint that fight was clearly given to Dana’s boy. I was shocked when they gave Cote the win, but not at all when Q.Jackson’s hand was not raised. D. White is becoming as bad for MMA as D.King is for boxing! The judges had to have been instructed to give a close fight to F.Griffin, or they were also with out doubt also huge fans of F.Griffin’s. Because at best it was 3/2 Jackson!
July 5th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
page lost round 2, there were 5 rounds k? were u covering ur eyes when forrest was getting rocked left and right? u racist fag
July 5th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
@ yeahrightrecessivefuck
you know, if I wanted to be rascist and involve any such things as nigger, nigger, nigger — I would’ve
your a piece a shit, and rampage wouldn’t even sink as low as you did.
not that I’m racist, but no matter what race you are — I’d love to lynch your ass from a tree
what does this fight have to do with black people who felt they’ve been wronged?
July 5th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
back to basketball my koon’d ass friends
July 5th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
maybe you dont understand on scoring works but really your boy Q got tech worked
July 5th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
whites when mixed with other races are recessive. know this piece of shit. you guys claim to be superior and treat the rest of the world as animals. but you are only really afraid of disapearing because as you are superior, your genes are recessive. meaning you are NOT SUPERIOR, YOUR INFERIOR MEANT TO DISAPEAR OF THE FACE OF THE EARTH HEARD THAT WHITE BOY!? now please go get cancer or any other genetic defect your race is superior on. die white fuck
July 5th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
I wanna hear the Bens’ responses to some of these posts — let alone the win
July 5th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
who was bleedin????????????not rampage!!!!!!!!!!!!!u have to hit someone to beat them and the way i seen every exchange was rampage whippin forrests ass!!!!!!ill give it to forrest on the kiccs but come on now look at his grill!!!!!!forrest is from vegas the fight was in vegas do i smell………………bullshit!!!!!!!!!!
July 5th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
it’s cool though, cause no one wants to fuck a nigger.
your dirty, haha
July 5th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
@ recessive
why was race even brought up you dumb fuck- this is a mma post not a panther rally
July 5th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
ok if you look at their faces Rampage won- if you look at who pushed the pace, did more damage- who attemped more submissions- then Forrest won
July 5th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Done with the UFC fixed fights.
I was a big UFC fan but after this event im done.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
GHG were those comment’s for me? If you read correctly I clearly stated that Q. Jackson won the fight! by a 3/2 margin if you gave F.Griffin a round! Also here’s a hint, any real MMA fan could gives two fucks about color! We all bleed the same color RED. So drop it already!
July 5th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
^ Hahahaha. Man, you’re dumb.
Thanks for the laugh.
July 5th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
who won????????forrest?i dont think so!!who got dropped in the 1st round stunned in the 3rd round stunned in the 4th round and out boxxed in the last 25 seconds?forrest did!in round 2 forrest had top mount for the WHOLE round and still couldnt finish him any one who thinks forrest won should get bitch slapped!so dana this ones for u bitch!!!!
July 5th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
God damnit, my last comment was for “recessuve crap”.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
looks like the UFC is the NEW nascar so many rednecks fucking watching it booing Josh Koscheck and Rampage WTH. soooo sad
July 5th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
forrest got stunned by one uppercut- and that was really the only time he was in trouble- rampage only has heavy hands and good slams- forrest is a better boxer- just not as strong and he showed he has some ju jits- so i really dont see how you think this was rigged or are so surprized that your boy lost-
July 5th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
to be a better boxer u have to connect when you throw rampage blocced everything forrest threw at him and he connected with his shots.whose face was lumped up??
July 5th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
you are very correct- griffins face was fucked up but who do you think will need surg after that fight- and i am pretty sure that there were more than a few times when page went to throw and forrest stuff him with a punch of his own
July 5th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
To all you absolute morons!!!!!!!!!! I cant even believe that someone would even DARE come on here an say rampage won….obvious fuckin bandwagon mma fans..griffin fuckin dominated, in every aspect, rampage threw some bombs on griffins chin , griffin sustains them, griffin out pointed, out maneuvered, and did MORE damage…HOLY SHIT can’t believe people would even dare to question that…griffin ALL the way..even rampage knew his ass got whooped, out gamed, and will be in more pain tomorrow than griffin. Frickin newbie’s….a fight isn’t won because someone threw a good punch, ONCE in the fight
July 5th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
My apologies Patrick, these are my last comments on this fight. I just hope there is a quick rematch, and that someone gets knocked out or wins by submission so that white or black, or black or white for that matter THE BEST MAN WINS…..
July 5th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
surgery oh u must be talkin about them stitches forrest needs to sew his face back on!!!!!!!!cuz his eye was fucked up!and forrests punches didnt have ANY effect on rampage.and his so called phenomanal submissions where were they? his triangle didnt work cuz he knew what would happen so say he was afraid of the slam and the arm bar was a joke it lasted 2 seconds and he got punched in the face twice for it!I STUDY THE FIGHTS RAMPAGE WON!
July 5th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
you must be a damned moron to think for one second that rampage won that fight- ok forrest has a gash on his eye brow- RAMPAGE BARLEY WALKED OUT OF THE RING- and you get points for attempts- but being an obvious noob or just a fucking tard- i guess you wouldnt have known that
July 5th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
i was watchin fights when u were suckin on ur mommas titties!!!RAMPAGE WON THAT FIGHT HANDS DOWN
July 5th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
to mike Says:
ya, ok buddy. Your comment speaks for itself, learn MMA man.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
ATTEMPT KEY WORD u must be a fuccin moron to think u win fights by attempting WHO LANDED MORE SHOTS and if his leg was so severely injured in round 2 then why did it go 5 rounds? and look at the fight again when rampage hurt forrest he clutched rampage and tried a leg sweep but who landed on top?rampage checked forrests kick after he hurt his leg.did u watch the fight or were u just dicc ridin forrest?
July 5th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
people around here need to realize that the judges don’t score the fight on the bruises or cuts on the fighters face — that’s besides the point. It’s the damages done during the fight, among other things.
this is basic shit
I can’t stant MMA fans who really do not have a grasp on shit.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
learn mma man? u sound lie a surfer on crack go suck that rock
July 5th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
The Cote fight was exactly the kind of fight I dont like to watch. They could have flipped a coin to pick the winner. Glad the main event made up for it, although I would have preferred a different outcome.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
judges score on who has the money did u watch the fight??????mma fans who dont have a grasp and the basics…..the basics in a fight is hit to win u dumb shit!!!i hit u i win u attempt to hit me i hit u more dumb ass…so u learn basics bitch
July 5th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
No matter how you look at it. Rampage won that fight.
If you count rounds, as you should, Griffin won second, sure give him 10-8 if u like (even if he did close to no dmg in the mount). First round Rampage, 2nd Griffin, then atleast 2 of the last 3 rounds was Rampages. Mabe one could go to Griffin becaus of a close call. So 47-47 at best!
If we are talking damage, sure, Griffin hurt the leg on Rampage, but he recovered quickly from it and keps outpunching Griffin the rest of the fight.
Griffins kicks inte the last rounds was a joke, thy didn’t even have enough power to hurt the allredy damaged leg of Rampage.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
true forrest hurt rampages leg and then got the mount and then layed on him for the rest of the round.and a hurt leg do u know the strength it would take to lift 205 pounds while in a triangle choke?
July 5th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Ok, to all who think rampage won the fight, you must all be mma followers of course and “obviously” followed rampage in pride?? If he won the fight and was kicking ass, why did Rampage the fuckin beast in pride that NEVER quit (except for last Silva fight) quit in the 5th round??? because he was beat. I LOVE rampage been following him since King of the Cage and Gladiator Challenge…he was done…he knew he was losing and did not go in for the kill…but of course you know he won, because he dropped griffin once….i mean we kow moe than the fighters do…alwways
vinny , your absolutey right on man
July 5th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
S2H Says:
Totally agree man, and none of those guys are ready for silva
July 5th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
@ the guy who commented to me
man, I really can’t understand a single thing you wrote.
just from your terrible explanation of.. whatever the fuck you were talking about — I’m going to assume your an idiot.
generally, we have quite knowledgable, informed people on this site — but, sorry, I can’t understand what the fuck you’re trying to say. Maybe that’s what I get for talking to people right from the site, and not from the forum.
I don’t know. Did you pregame far too much? Sorry, you really don’t make sense.
and by the way, “i hit u i win u attempt to hit me i hit u more dumb ass” — how the fuck can one person be so belligerent, idiotic, and not knowing what the fuck he’s talking about at the same time? Christ you’re stupid, but yea…don’t take it personally, haha.
and please, respond to me in the same retarded way you just did. It’s 2:01 AM — I’m looking for a cheap laugh.
July 5th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
and to Mike, you make great points.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:01 am
TO RECESSIVE: Hey jungle bunny, thank god for the sickle cell
July 6th, 2008 at 12:04 am
Hahaha, Forrest kicked ass and won a well deserved title, just as I predicted. Those of you who think Rampage was robbed need to get over your hero worship and learn the ins and outs of the sport. Douchebags. Even rampage understood he lost and manned up to it. I am a fan of Rampage as well and really hope he doesn’t see any long term problems with that knee.
Forrest has now beaten two of the best in the world at 205, back to back.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:08 am
good call
July 6th, 2008 at 12:25 am
I’m going to say this again so all you fucking haters actually realize. Tomorrow, Forrest will be able to fight. Tomorrow, Rampage will either a) be on crutches or b)be stubborn and not use crutches, and spend all day in bed. If you don’t think his leg is really REALLY hurting right now you have obviously never trained MMA (or any sport for that matter). He is far, far, FAR more damaged than Forrest, thus Forrest wins the decision.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:34 am
It doesn’t come down to who will be sorer the next day. A major part of the scoring of an MMA fight is aggression and octagon control. Forrest had that in hand all 5 rounds, even the round(s) he lost. He took the center of the ring, pushed the action, engaged, even when they closed for boxing exchanges (with Rampage often getting the better shots in) Forrest immediately reestablished octagon control out of the exchanges and continued to pursue, never giving up control to Jackson. That is a major component of scoring and one of the keys to Forrest’s victory. Other keys were his leg kicks, tagging consistently, and that 10-8 domination in round 2.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:40 am
The last several UFC fights have been so lame, and Dana White is such a douchebag, I’ve quit ordering these fights on PPV. I even skipped seeing it at the bars that have ordered it this time around. I’m glad Forrest won, and I’ll look forward to seeing this fight…..which sounds like the first decent fight in about 6 months. Personally, I’ve read so much about how poorly Dana White pays his fighters, I am losing my enthusiasm for UFC and WEC fights….it just pisses me off that the fighters do so much work, and take so much damage, while getting paid so little….all while Dana flies around in a 30 million dollar Gulfstream and drives a 200K$ car.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:42 am
umm…ok.
rampage DID NOT GET ROBBED. his gameplan was good until his leg buckled. all rampage did was rock him in the first round. his other exchanges were just haymakers, some of them landed, some missed wildly, and the others were blocked. he didnt attempt one takedown, submission, or didnt do anything for defense on the ground. forrest had a deep triangle attempt, 2 armbar attempts, ROCKED him with leg kicks the whole time, and not to mention had a full mount in round 2 pretty much the whole time. forest was also more effective in the clinch utlitizing his knees. forrest was the aggressor the WHOLE fight, and had octagon control the whole fight. he was even winning round one until he got rocked with that uppercut.
in fact, i think rampage clearly said “what can i say? he whooped my ass! theres always a 50/50 chance that YOU will get youre ass whooped!”
theres nothing racist about this decision…forrest won. saying jackson got robbed is like saying liddell got robbed against jardine. get over it you fucking babies, jackson is just another strong dude with good wrestling, and just looks to overpower people. if his gameplan doesnt work, hes doomed.
congrats forrest, you earned it.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:43 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCGAWjHdX4c
July 6th, 2008 at 1:10 am
Geez there are a lot of stupid racists on this site. The fight was a good fight but just because the guy you wanted to win didn’t, why does it have to be racist? I had black people at the bar yelling “Beat that nigga’s ass!!” yet I bet according to most of you, that wouldnt be racist. What about the Kimbo fight, and obvious fixed fight where a black man beat a white man? I didnt see any of you people on here saying how that fight was fixed based off race. Seriously grow the fuck up.
July 6th, 2008 at 1:17 am
First round 10-9 Griffin
Second Round 10-8 Griffin
Third Round 10-9 rampage
Fourth Round- 10-9 Rampage
Fifth Round 10-9 Forest
Just because a white guy beat a black guy in a close decision doesn’t make it racist. What is racist is people accusing white people of being racist for no reason other than a white guy winning a fight against a black guy. Reverse racism at its finest.
July 6th, 2008 at 1:24 am
The only way a cracker can beat us is to cheat us. I hope Anderson Silva kills that cracker. I hate the UFC, I was forced to watch this crap when Pride folded.
July 6th, 2008 at 1:32 am
I didn’t know most of cagepotato.com’s comment crew had so much in common with Hellen Keller. Watch the fight over again and you see forrest winning round 1 until he gets caught by rampage. Forrest wins 2nd round 10-8 easily and the 5th round. 3rd and 4th rounds were close but Forrest was the agressor and went for submission attempts. He kept pushing Rampage but Rampage didn’t do anything to win the rounds.
July 6th, 2008 at 1:38 am
I can’t wait for the UFC to fold. This card sucked, with some horrible decisions. The UFC should only allow white fighters. That’s what they want anyway. Just Mid-West white boy. That’s why I loved Pride. It was people from all over the world, not just crackers.
You are the most hateful people in the world.
July 6th, 2008 at 1:42 am
The SUN will kill all you pink bastards.
July 6th, 2008 at 2:01 am
uh… ANY racist comments, going either way, are absolutely ridiculous and ignorant. this has nothing to do with race, this is a fight. dont EVER come in here and bring that crap. its a disgrace — not to your race — to YOU to talk like that.
July 6th, 2008 at 3:00 am
bandwagon much? What about when BJ Penn lost to GSP, GSP looked like he got hit by a truck and BJ Penn only looked like he had gone out jogging and yet no-one dies GSP won that fight.
Rampage lost because he is black? Jeez you guys are retarded, it’s exactly like Ben wrote in the play-by-play, Forrest Jardine’d him to death.
July 6th, 2008 at 4:00 am
I love how you Q fans are defending him yet he himself told everyone in that place that he got his ass kicked.
Deal with it guys, Rampage lost. Forrest fought a more intelligent fight… and who gives a damn what color the man who beat him was. This just shows how retarded some of you are.
July 6th, 2008 at 4:44 am
Something tells me it was mostly drunk white guys posting the same racist post over and over again..Dumb asses!
Forrest won! Done and DONE!!!
July 6th, 2008 at 5:23 am
Enough about Rampage vs Griffen. Let’s concentrate on Mike Goldbergs stupid comments. One right after another. I want him to do a color commentary on Abu Dhabi competition. Garcia just a submission away from victory…….
“Rampage just a combination away from victory”
What time did he start drinking?
July 6th, 2008 at 6:27 am
Whenever black people don’t get their way, they always resort to the race card, because they know white people fall for it about 80% of the time…
July 6th, 2008 at 6:30 am
What’s the need for all this racism over an mma fight? The 2 guys in the ring like each other and have a lot of respect for each other. Neither one was fighting for their respective race. It’s one thing to have your own interpretation about how the fight went down. It’s another thing to think this has anything to do about race, or DW had it fixed for his “boy” to win, or anything. Like I said last night, I was really excited about this fight cuz I really like both Rampage and Forrest and I got what I wanted out of the fight even though I felt Rampage had a slight edge at the end. Just except that it was a good fight and move on.
One more thing, nobody who blogs on this site is a commission judge for any organization. So for any of you to talk shit to someone else and have the nerve to say you know mma more than another person based on their biased opinion, then you’re an idiot. You dumbasses don’t realize you’re doing the same thing as the person you”re talking shit to. Most, if not all of us, had in mind who we wanted to win.
You idiots are just fans, just like those you talk shit to….FANS! Claiming you truly know mma is just as bad as walking around wearing Tapout or Affliction T’s and go to the bars on fight night and brag/lie about how you’re training and blah blah blah.
Just accept the fact that it was a good fight and look forward to the next one.
July 6th, 2008 at 6:59 am
how bout the fact that rampage said he lost.bitch all you want but when someone admits defat,it usually means they lost.and stop with all the racist bullshit.you cant use race to justify everything,or use it as an excuse
July 6th, 2008 at 7:25 am
The judges aren’t employees of the UFC. and just because a black man fought a white man does not mean that Dana and company are somehow affiliated with the KKK. I have read some seriously ignorant shit here tonight. Forest won all of you need to realise that you are watching martial arts not boxing. All of the kicks that Forest landed are scored just the same as punches. Judges also don’t score on how hard a punch lands (none landed hard enough for a KO anyway). funny because a lot of people were saying Forest doesn’t have a chin.
July 6th, 2008 at 7:26 am
i didn’t see the fights, unfortunately. but as a general rule, i feel that decisions should heavily favor the champion.
and i really felt that mma was a race-blind sport, and that its followers held the same ideals. unfortunately, the influx of noobs has created a racially-charged environment where there previously wasn’t.
i loathe you racist fucks. go die in a hole.
July 6th, 2008 at 8:19 am
I knew Rampage lost the fight before he even stepped into the ring. How can you hug Wilmer Valderama before a title defense?!?! We’ve all seen what happened to Lohan’s career after she banged that D-list toolbag. The Curse of the Wilmer is real people!
July 6th, 2008 at 8:32 am
Forrest always looks like he’s losing because he’s clumsy and bleeds alot but the facts speak for himself. I like Rampage but looking at objectively Griffin won hands down. People always think their fighter is doing better than he his because they’re watching what he’s doing and not the other guy.
1. In every round Rampage landed a few more punches, but Griffin usually returned a few, threw more, and landed alot in general. Griffin was more aggressive and pushed the pace.
2. Griffin landed a shit load of leg kicks which Rampage was ill prepared to defend against. Rampage landed one kick the entire fight I think.
3. Griffin had a few submission attempts that failed because Rampage is a “bad dude” but they were still there where Rampage attempted none. Griffin stuffed one of Rampage’s slams because he was cranking that arm too hard.
Rampage is a good slugger, boxer or whatever, his legendary haymakers might bring him up to face the champion again someday and he did land some clean shots, but he lost this one decisively, and didn’t convince me that he isn’t one dimensional. Face it, the clumsy white guy dismantled your black hero like a 1970’s cadillac.
July 6th, 2008 at 8:42 am
I also forgot to mention all those knees to the coconut Forrest dropped on ‘Page, again something he didn’t return at all. Most of you are probably just surprised a black guy lost to a white one and shouldn’t be, because it happens all the time <:3
July 6th, 2008 at 8:47 am
I also felt that the UFC was a race-blind sport.. Saying Rampage got robbed is because of race is absolutley rediculos, how old are you? Something tells me some your parents need to wach this stuff with you guys..
And to the dude saying that u need to hit to win the fights. You are wrong, you can slammed, and submitted, these things are a huge part of this sport, and if you need to be reminded of this then you need to read up on something..
Like another comment farther up said this is not boxing.
And by the way Forrest won that fight! Great preformance by both fighters..
July 6th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Yeah Griffin won decisively but it was a great back and forth fight and I think we can all agree on that. Rampage was one charismatic nigga and a fine champion but tonight wasn’t his night. I thought if Griffin won it would be a huge upset and it was, established PRIDE fighter and current UFC champion out fought by UFC reality show guy. I was pulling for Griffin as the underdog but I never thought it would happen.
July 6th, 2008 at 9:09 am
man I dont know what fight you nuthuggers fuckin watched but forrest picked Rampage apart.
You can cry all you want, but that was a UNANIMOUS win…period.
I gotta tell you, even Rampage knew he got whipped, he wasnt no pussy like you nuthugging bastards.
Damn shame you can give respect to your man rampage by maning the fuck up and stop bleeding like a bitch.
This is a good thing, but you are to damn stupid to see it.
The champion gets babied, the champ doesnt fight that much.
We are gonna see MORE of rampage Jackson, and guys thats fucking great thing. I love Rampage, he cracks me up one day and scares me the next. I got MAD respect for him tonight after this fight, he didnt whine like you bitches………man good thing he cant see you fuckers crying, thats ll he needs is nuthugger fans who live in a fantasy world, and wont be man enough like he is!
Forrest hit rampage 20 to 1, he kicked the shit out of his legs, and side, and head.
All Rampage did was hit a few uppercuts, and “almost” slam him. Face it , Rampage was out worked.
All hail the new champ……………..but God bless the fact we are gonna see more rampage.
oh and all you racist motherfuckers can eat shit, it takes a racist ass nigger to come in here whining like a fucking idot about color being a factor in a fight. get an education and keep it real dumbasses.
July 6th, 2008 at 9:15 am
Mike & ‘the truth’ know what they are talking about.
To all you racist morons………Shouldn’t you idiots be making signs for the next WWE event? Go fuck yourselves.
There is NO racism in the cage. It’s a damn shame there is so much racism lurking outside the cage.
Congrats to Forrest. I can’t wait til the rematch.
July 6th, 2008 at 9:20 am
im ashamed to even be a fan of such a corrupt institution. I hope Affliction destroys the UFC. i am disgusted that they robbed rampage like that.
July 6th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Even Rampage admitted he got his ass kicked. This was not a robbery. I thought Rampage looked a little out of shape though… Oh yeah, these fighters are definitly underpaid…. You guys notice how the ppv price keeps going up too?
July 6th, 2008 at 11:38 am
DANA GOT HIS WINNER. EVERONE NOWS RAMPAGE WON ALL THE ROUNDS BUT THE SECOND. IF DANA WHITE DOES’NT BULL SHIT AROUND RAMPAGE WILL GET THE REMATCH AND THE BELT BACK. EVERONE KNEW IF THIS MATCH WENT TO THE SCORE CARD DANA WOULD MAKE SURE FORREST WINS. FORREST KNEW HE DID’NT WIN LOOK AT HIM AFTER THEY RAISED HIS HANDS DANA WHITE FIXED THE WIN . RAMPAGE WILL BUST HIS ASS THE NEXT TIME.
July 6th, 2008 at 11:59 am
You guys shitting on Dana for thinking he fixed this are retarded. You act like Griffin is a bigger draw than Rampage for the UFC. Yea Griffin is funny when you can get him to talk but hes said himself hes a recluse and just stays in the gym. Rampage is a shit load more active in getting himself out in the public eye and is very good when he is.
This was very close to win-win for Dana, expecting a rematch.
July 6th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
cole miller sucks
July 6th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
when Joe Rogan said that forrest was clearly winning the fight in round 4 and goldberg said uh I gotta disagree. I guess mike didn’t get the dana white newsletter that if it were to get to a decision forrest would win regardless. the champ should have to take a beating to give up his belt. rampge rocked the shit out of him every punch he landed clearly, see his face what a mess I wish all the old pride fighters got together and left this joke of mma the ufc. I don’t give a shit what happens on july 19 in ufc land fedor is gonna kill sylvia
July 6th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Rampage lost.
no matter what anyone says.
no matter what you chair champions say- he lost.
If you do not believe me go look at Quentin’s record today.
Forever and ever it will say LOST.
He himself admitted he lost.
He himself admitted he should have never went so long without a fight.
all you posers who are fair weather fans, piss off like you promised,maybe next fight we won’t have to listen to you whine.
meanwhile his lose is great for MMA, we will now see more of Mr Rampage jackson, and that works fine for me.
July 6th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
as yourself this- if the fight would have continued until a sleepage, or submission were achieved…who would have won?
Griffin won…period…i’m about 90% sure Jackson will win the rematch.
my wife’s yelling at me…i gotta go eat dinner….)
July 6th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
and if the odds makers were to see it that way too…i would put a pile of cash on Forrest Griffin…)
July 6th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
i can say hand down i am a true rampage fan, ive been a avid fan of his since his saga against silva back in pride FC.
but i watched the fight twice, and after seeing it twice i have this to say.
forrest really won the fight, it is true that rampage only DOMINATED the 1st round and after that the rounds were either close to a tie or forrest won it. rampage had round 1 and 4, while forrest had rounds 2,3, and 5.
also froom watching the fight over twice i am wondering if rampage threw the fight on purpose. many times this old “right uppercut x2 followed by right hook to the head” combo would have perhaps ended the fight but the fail to even throw out the combo. many times he threw fakes and although forrest didnt counter rampage never closed up the distance (he was just throwing fakes back to back and not acting upon forrests reaction.)
i hate to say this but maybe rampage bet his purse against himself
July 6th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
The Judges should have spent more time in Montreal, for the Commitions MMA 101 for judges to be able to effectivley score fights. You have to convincivly defeat the Champ to take his Belt. Page lost the 2nd round no questions and possibley round five as well Tops!!! Weak BS FTL
July 6th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
jesus christ…are people still saying that rampage got robbed?
FOR FUCKS SAKE!
what are the keys to victory in the octagon if the decision goes to the judges?
basically, its this:
dont get ur ass knocked out
dont get ur ass tapped out
maintain octagon control
be the aggressor
heres a recap of what happened:
Round 1:
Forrest was outstriking Jackson the entire time until he got clocked with the uppercut, which almost resulted in a ground and pound stoppage. too bad rampage pulled a brock lesnar and went to the ground with someone who knows how to use their jujitsu to pull guard to avoid ground and pound.
either way, round 1 belonged to rampage just because he landed that haymaker.
Round 2:
Forrest fucks up rampages knee, and takes him down. in side control, punishes rampage with quick elbows to the body and head. rampage’s legs are WIDE open, and lets forrest take the full mount. CLEARLY, forrest damaged rampages leg…and it all went down hill from there. Took full mount, until the round ended.
Forest takes round 2
Round 3:
Forrest is feeling a bit confident, but rampage quickly finds his distance, and lands some nice punches on forrest. however, forrest is still coming back at him even after rampages deadly exchanges, and tries to land the leg kicks.
All in all, id give round 3 to jackson just because i feel he landed the more effective strikes.
Round 4:
Forrest pwnt him this round with leg kicks again, and was clearly the aggressor. rampage still tried to put some hard combinations together, but his knee is gimped, and he doesnt have the speed to stalk forrest when he tags him and backs off. Call forrest a pussy you might, but hes the more intelligent fighter…bring the pressure at rampage, and back off. MAINTAINING OCTAGON CONTROL! oh yeah, not to mention forest got him in a DEEP triangle. and i couldnt help but laugh at that statement earlier by that douche bag that was like “if forest held on he knew what would of happened!” …precisely, THATS WHY HE LET GO OF THE TRIANGLE YOU FUCKING MORON!
round 4 griffin all the way
Round 5:
pretty much the same thing as round 4. forrest pushed the pace the entire time, and all jackson tried to do was put up some combinations.
all in all, rampage didnt do enough to win the fight, so as most of you haters are saying “that you have to beat the champ outright to take his belt”, how did griffin NOT do that? all jackson did was clock him with ONE uppercut, and connect with a few combinations. forest connected with more combinations, maintained octagon control by being the aggressor, had at least 5 different submission attempts, and if you didnt notice, fucked rampages knee up all nasty with leg kicks. so the argument that “rampage landed more punches” doesnt even matter since forrest probably landed more kicks then rampage landed punches…sooo yeah, eat it whore.
rampage didnt get robbed, and he even knows he lost. he admitted it. he even joked about it. if the man that lost ADMITTED he lost, and doesnt claim the contrary, why are all you idiot fucks saying he got robbed?
oh, i know. because:
a) you dont know shit about mma
b) you probably lost a whole lot of money betting on rampage
c) if you saw the fight and STILL think jackson got robbed, then ur just a fucking idiot.
get over it you fucking pussies, the UFC has a new light heavyweight champion, and he has now defeated 2 of the best 205 pounders in the world. to think that this kid DOESNT deserve the belt is just crazy.
congrats forrest, and fuck all of you people who believe this shit is racist. racist my fucking ass. you fuckers dont even know what racism is. people back in the day experienced racism, for example, hanging and killing you just beacuse your black, not letting you take a shit in a public bathroom just because your black, and raping your daughter right in front of you just because youre black. THATS RACISM. not a black mma fighter losing his belt.
eat it whores, we got a new champ.
July 6th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
oh yeah, forgot to mention, forest got a 10-8 in round 2 for total domination.
*insert rampage got robbed comment here*
July 7th, 2008 at 10:16 am
Fuck all the retards on here with comments like “Rampage was robbed”… get a life.
You were probably in the same group of people that wear an MMA shirt to the bar like you’re a fighter and screamed like a giddy school girl everytime Rampage even brushed Griffin. Jump on the bandwagon.
Jackson is a great fighter, I have tons of respect for the man and he could have won, IF:
-Jackson would have trained, seriously trained
-Jackson would have gotten in the ring a few times in the last 9 months
-Forrest hadn’t obviously studied every Rampage fight and knew how to break him down and avoid the big hits
-Forrest hadn’t been the constant aggressor in 4 of the 5 rounds
-Forrest hadn’t kept a majority of octagon control
FORREST GRIFFIN WON THE GAME, HE WENT THE DISTANCE AND BEAT RAMPAGE BY SKILL, TRAINING, PLANNING AND HEART.
Good Job forrest!
July 7th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
WOW I mean I just soooo sick of how black people bitch and moan about everything. A black man looses a belt and its all about racism! ya know thats why black people are where they are today (one about to be in the FUCKING white house) cause the bitch and play the race card every day of LIFE! as if the world owes em something. Bottom line a white Athlete beat a black athlete OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! thats not possible without racism? The most racist people I know are all BLACK they are only for themselves and their race yet like to claim equal rights in their fight for all (Hispanics and Asians) but its all a lie they are form them and no one else
July 11th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Hammill won end of post!
July 15th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Rampage said afterward that Forrest WHOOPED his ass. Anyone saying the fight was fixed and the decision was racist is saying that Rampage is a lying idiot and hes not. Also if Dana White is a racist WHY is he making so many minority fighters MILLIONAIRES? Its a shame that most people can’t exhibit the class that Rampage has. That was a great fight by two guys who respect each other and on THIS night Forrest won. Lets all wait for the rematchs to come.
July 16th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
I thought Hammill won, as well. Was Cecil P. one of the judges of that bout?
July 17th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
I agree with moparman, Cecil Peoples shouldn’t be judging fights. Back in late 70s early 80s when I was fighting I saw alot of his fights and he really wasn’t worth a shit at point fighting much less full contact. Whenever he judges his decisions are just the opposite of reality. He has as much competence judging a REAL fight as Keith Vitali.
September 17th, 2008 at 8:40 am
ha ha jackson lost big deal so what forest just proved hes the better fighter why does that make him racist hell everyone cracks a n**** sometime in theyre life because they just cant stop talkin trash and when they get what they deserve it racist that bull shit .