Pregnant Woman Sideswiped by Quinton Jackson Suffers Miscarriage
(Photo courtesy of kozyndan.)
More bad news for Rampage — and unbelievably bad news for the pregnant woman he struck during his hit-and-run spree last month. The Daily Pilot has the story:
A Huntington Beach woman who was more than 16 weeks pregnant and who police said was injured in a hit-and-run crash with mixed martial artist Quinton “Rampage” Jackson on the 55 Freeway two weeks ago has had a miscarriage, her fiance said Friday.
Holli Griggs, 38, was driving her 2007 Cadillac Escalade in the left lane on the southbound 55 Freeway just south of Bay Street on July 15 when Jackson’s gray-and-green pick-up truck sideswiped her as he drove along the median lane at about 45 mph, California Highway Patrol officials said…Prosecutors would not comment on any potential charges due to Griggs’ miscarriage.
“Our office will make sure we take as much time as necessary to make a proper filing decision and including all evidence and medical information to make sure any charges that are filed are fair and accurate,” Dist. Atty. spokeswoman Farrah Emami said.
Griggs was unavailable for comment Friday. Her fiance, Bill Krebs, said doctors were immediately concerned when they noticed a significant loss of fluid in Griggs’ womb after the accident. Days before the crash, the couple had visited the doctor for an ultrasound, and Griggs was told she “had enough fluid for three babies,” Krebs said. She was pregnant with a boy…
The couple have retained an attorney but have yet to take legal action against Jackson.
Whoa. A miscarriage is a tragedy in any context, and not to be too insensitive regarding Jackson’s possible mental condition, but if you needed a sign that you’re not actually an incarnation of God’s will on Earth (or God Himself), this is pretty much it. Of course, we’re thinking the same thing you are — does this mean Jackson could be catching a manslaughter charge in addition to his hit-and-run and evasion charges?
According to Bloody Elbow’s Michael Rome, it doesn’t. In a post yesterday (that was later taken off the site for some reason), he wrote:
First, this will not result in a manslaughter charge. According to nearly everything I’ve read in the last few hours, California manslaughter law does not apply to fetuses. This includes vehicular manslaughter. Years ago, when a court held that the murder law did not apply to fetuses, the California Legislature amended the murder law to include fetuses. They did not amend the manslaughter law, and courts have interpreted this to mean fetuses are not covered by manslaughter laws.
Second, he will not face felony murder charges. I was thinking about this at first because he committed felony evasion, but it turns out California is one of the states that specifically spells out which felonies count for the purpose of felony murder. Here is the statute, Cal Penal Code section 189:
First degree murder includes murder committed in the perpetration of, or attempt to perpetrate: Arson, rape and various other sexual crimes, carjacking, robbery, burglary, mayhem, kidnapping, train wrecking, or…discharging a firearm from a motor vehicle.
None of these apply, so he can breathe a sigh of relief there. I think the only impact on the criminal proceedings would be if his misdemeanor hit and run becomes a felony hit and run. Hit and run becomes a felony in California if the accident “results in death or permanent, serious injury.” The question of whether “results in death” applies to fetuses has never been litigated according to a quick Lexis search.
That’s fortunate, if it’s actually true. But it doesn’t rule out the possibility of a civil suit, in which a large financial judgment could be levied against Jackson for his responsibility (a lawyer might argue) in causing the miscarriage to happen. The guilt from a situation like this could be unbearable for a person even in normal circumstances. For Rampage, the circumstances aren’t normal, and we truly hope this doesn’t send him deeper into whatever delusional rabbit hole he may have drifted into.
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August 4th, 2008 at 5:53 am
Wow. It only gets worse for Rampage. I hope he does get out of that “rabbit hole”. Damn shame!
August 4th, 2008 at 5:53 am
Thats too bad, I’d like to this jerk serve some jail time for that. Freakin a$$hole looses a fight and has to take it out on the community.
I really hope at the very least they file a civil suit and hit his pockets hards. Kick this bum out of the UFC too.
“But he’s got mental problems.. wahhhh” Cry some more Rampage. Guy looses a fight and acts like a retard and we are supposed to feel sorry for him.
August 4th, 2008 at 5:55 am
Oh Shit!!!
August 4th, 2008 at 6:28 am
send him to jail and take all his earnings. the sack of shit needs to go down hard. rampage will like jail - jebus seems to hang out there a lot.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:35 am
I’m an awful person. As soon as I saw that she was driving an Escalade I stopped caring about the whole thing.
August 4th, 2008 at 6:38 am
Doesn’t anyone else think this will be hard to prove? Especially in a civil case. A lot of other things can cause miscarraiges and this is a month after the event.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:00 am
You don’t have to prove shit in a civil case, all you have to do is make your self more pitiful than the other person.
August 4th, 2008 at 7:07 am
This story keeps getting worse and worse. This is pretty sad for the family.
I agree with 6:38 that the case will be tough to prove. If the woman was ever a smoker, has ever used drugs etc. that’ll all come out in the litigation process and influence how much the case is worth.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:27 am
I hope this worthlesss mother fucker does sometime. I don’t care who you are. And for all you fuckin bleeding heart faggots that say “Oh your just a racist” just sit back and think for a sec if that was your sister. Rampage = waste of skin.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:32 am
Rampage is a total trash can. Give him the chair he cost a family a baby boy there is no forgivness for that EVER never All cause he lost. I hope we never see him fight again.
Prayers for the family my God be with them.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:36 am
seriously what’ with all the “get better rampage ” bullshit? mf hit a woman and killed he unborn child. lock him away with the rest of the california gladiators
August 4th, 2008 at 8:48 am
If the Goldman’s were able to take everything away from OJ after being found acquitted of all charges then I’m sure this family can get something out of Rampage. Everyone makes mistakes and we can only hope Justice is served fairly. If Rampage wasn’t in a normal mental state I don’t see how he can be charged for his actions but at the very least he should have a court ordered stay at a mental institution until he is better, however long that may be. I don’t think he should get special treatment because of his celebrity but at the same time he shouldn’t be treated any worse either. Hopefully he gets his feet back underneath him and his head back on his shoulders and can live a somewhat normal life, but I think this is the last we are going to see of Rampage as a fighter.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:51 am
I hate to say it, but if you heard ’some random guy’ did this, and the woman lost her child…wouldn’t you want to throw the book at him? It shouldn’t matter if the driver was Rampage or some stranger….and I like Rampage.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:54 am
man im sure glad i dont live in america with you cock suckers, your already blaming him for the crime when you dont even know he was the cause. But then again i live in Canada and we have people who ride greyhounds and cut peoples heads off lol.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Ok he messed up and messed up BAD but how many of you mother fuckers haven’t, and because your not under a microscope like he is you wanna crucify him for what he has done. Now my point is I am sure everyone of you shit talking Douches has fucked up and if we knew what it was I am sure we would be saying the same shit about you but because your a sack of shit that hides behind a keyboard you can point fingers with your “HOLIER THAN THOU” attitude, shove it up your ass and realize that he didn’t wake up that morning and say “LETS KILL A BABY” now I am not saying he should get off scott free because he is rampage but what I am saying is “BITCH YOUR NOT THAT INNOCENT” now eat a dick and STFU
August 4th, 2008 at 9:17 am
First degree murder includes… Blah, blah, blah, MAYHEM…
Yeah, you’re right. Not of that applies to Rampage. ‘Specialy not mayhem.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Anyone who has NOT killed an unborn child has the right to take a “holier than thou” attitude on this one. Aaron the eskimo has waived that right.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:32 am
@God,
I’m canadian, but that post is fuckin funny.
August 4th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Guilty til proven innocent. We don’t know anything close to all the facts so there’s no point in getting angry at or trying to defend Rampage.
August 4th, 2008 at 10:03 am
Maybe he was smiting the antichrist before it smote him?
August 4th, 2008 at 10:34 am
People just want to see other people fail… Rampage had no intensions of causing a pregnate woman a miscarage… Have none of you ever been down before or made a mistake? Give the man a break… he is being punished for what he did wrong… it doesnt mean he needs to be in jail for murder… freakin idiots. im sure the woman is going to sue the shit out of him anyway because thats the way this screwed up world of ours works. Money will make her miscarage all better right???? wtf…
August 4th, 2008 at 10:34 am
he should get what he deserves. im not saying he should be dragged out in the street and skinned, but he did break laws and should be punished accordingly.
@Vrax..fuckin hysterical
August 4th, 2008 at 11:11 am
the lady that had the miscarriage is almost 40 years old. who’s to say it wouldn’t have happened anyway? im pretty sure the miscarriage rates at her age are pretty high.
August 4th, 2008 at 11:14 am
What kind of crazy pills are you people on who are standing up for Rampage. We don’t know all the facts, but we know that Rampage was the driver who went on a rampage with his monster truck. Would you defenders of Rampage be taking this position if it was your wife, sister or daughter who suffered this? It seems like this one is going to break right down the same fault lines as the OJ debacle.
August 4th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Would I be calling someone a murderer if they got in an accident with wife, sister or daughter and maybe caused a miscarriage? Fuck no. Yes in his case he was breaking the law when he hit her car and he needs to be punished for it, but he didn’t run over the woman, HE HIT HER CAR.
If you ever get in a fender bender with a pregnant woman you better hope the stress doesn’t cause a murder…. i mean miscarriage
August 4th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
What he did definitely falls into the category of involuntary manslaughter (criminal negligence resulting in death), and I believe a jury would definitely find him guilty (it’s alot easier, and more convincing, to prove the pregnancy was healthy prior to the incident, and had higher chances of going full term than to say, “she was old, it might have died anyway”). He deserves to be punished and I believe will be. He deserves whatever he gets.
August 4th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
What about mayhem ???
August 4th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
..and about the poll…..seems like everyone is nuthuggin Fedor…
August 4th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
@ Aaron from Alaska… says the sack of shit that’s hiding behind his keyboard. As for Rampage, he is still innocent until proven guilty. However, if he is found responsible, then he should pay the price just like anyone else. And for the record, I haven’t killed any babies yet, so I guess it’s okay for me to type my opinion. Don’t want to get Aaron’s panties too bunched up. Next he’s gonna lecture everybody to “leave Brittney alone!!!” haha
August 4th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Check your facts, in California the law is different. See the Unborn Victim of Violence Act or the Laci and Conner’s Law. The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a “child in utero” as a legal victim, if he or she is injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines “child in utero” as “a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb.”[2] The California law is currently in line with the Federal Law. Furthermore, if they do not charge him under these laws they will charge a G.B.I. (Great Bodily Injury) Enhancement to the Felony Hit & Run. Rampage is going to prison, absent significant mitigation/evidence of mental disorder. Of course, that is no defense if he brought it on himself through drug use, even over use of prescription drugs. Dude is in deep shit.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
at least he’s living up to his nickname
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August 4th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
the guy runs around calling himself “rampage” for fuck’s sake. he wears a chain you could pull a truck (with a self-portrait painted on the side…) out of a ditch with and fled the scene of an accident. bitch shoulda stopped acting like a religious freak-show a long time ago. if you act like a decent human being you get treated like one. funny thing that.
johnny cochran is dead, motherfuckers. “if chuck gets hit, you must acquit” ain’t cutting it.
August 4th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
@Darkside ,God….two shitbags in front of a monitor that are 9 times out of 10 too fat to do anything close to MMA unless you count going to events and screaming boobies at the ring girls. Now back to my point….what I am saying is I am sure 90% of people have done things wrong that should have landed them in Jail and I am positive YOU fall into that percentage and if not I am sure your whore ass mom,sister, and especially daughters….so you can talk shit about how other people should be in jail but what about you and all the whores in your family
August 4th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
enjoy your stay in prison, RAMPAGE. Hopefully your RUMP doesn’t AGE. get it? fuck all y’all. i’m jebus dammit.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Admitedly, what he did was wrong, even if he was in another ’state’ of mind. But what all of you asses who are now bashing the guy for what he did and his situation are just plain pathetic. Guaranteed all of you’s are so called fecking fans’, but what you fail to realize is, that his mental conditon is more then likely brought on from suppling your entertainment in the fact that hes probably taken one to many blows to the head I.E. Concussions And just like NFL’rs and wrestlers are prone to head injurys causing the mental issues. Kinda like what happened to Chris Benoit. As much as I love the sport, I also now that these guys are risking their lives and healths, maybe not during the fights, but certainly after them. At least try an show these guys some fecking respec and sympathy. Just as much to the poor woman who lost her baby too. Imagine this changes his life as well.
August 4th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
i dont think they will be able to prove beyond reasonable doubt that rampage caused a 38 year old to miscarry. i hope her body recovers quickly so she can try again before its too late, though. i feel terrible for this woman for losing her baby. rampage is lucky nothing else terrible happened or he would get hard time.
August 4th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
you americans, it’s a fetus for christ’s sake, it’s not even half a life yet. of course it’s unfortunate, but hey…. no reason for giving him the chair is it…? bet your against abortion too right….?
August 4th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Terrible shame, Im sure rampage is not a evil person. He did commit a crime, he did elude police, he did hit an run several cars, aswell he hit the pregant lady esclade’s, now she has lost her child. All over the excuse rampage used, if all this is true, and will be found out true, well do the crime do the time….
August 4th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
IM so tired of reading the screaming tantrum’s that idiots post. and so tired of the anti-religion people who seem to use this to bash God. and Im so tired of stupid ass users who want to make a joke outta everything…and Im tired of the dumbass es who think they know the laws.
You all disgust me.
blah blah blah.
pregers bitch lost a bay…waaaaaa.
how about this? stop fucking trying to have babys at age 40 you dumb bitch, and if you MUST procreate stay home!
so she lost a baby, big deal. some people are like fucking rabbits they will just pop another one out soon enough, as if we dont have enough overpopulation.
shit happens, get over you bunch a pansies.
August 4th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
@ UFCfan: Could you be a little more blunt.
Talk about adding insult to injury. Quinton needs to just lock himself in a room for a month.
August 5th, 2008 at 2:59 am
“IM so tired of reading the screaming tantrum’s that idiots post.”- UFCfag
but yet…you continue to post…you fuking dildo.
August 5th, 2008 at 7:11 am
FUCK RAMPAGE
August 5th, 2008 at 8:32 am
@Aaron… Grow up. And I actually do train AND fight. You’re just a puss. If you weren’t, maybe you would run your mouth to real people instead of guys on a computer that you don’t have to worry about ever meeting.
August 5th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
As much as I love Rampage, he can go fuck himself with a Jesus bobblehead. So what if the bitch is 40, smoked, drank, did crack, then went bungee jumping, having a monster truck nearly smash her could not have been good for her baby. Most people I know don’t even like driving next to big trucks like that. If Rampage is that troubled then STAY HOME! Why do mental defectives feel a need to visit their ills upon society?
August 5th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
He should pay the couple compensation according to how serious his actions were legal wise and how morally obliged to it he feels.
Then he should check in in a mental institution. By his own or compulsory should be his only choice.
Then, get the fuck back on the octagon.
August 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
I’m THe Best EVA!!!
August 5th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
Ok this misscariage happened an entire month after this accident, the best lawyer on the planet could not prove this as being entirely rampages fault. I could be his lawyer on this case, heres my defense….. Prove it. and i rest.
August 6th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Damn, I guess we won’t be seeing a lot of Rampage in the near… 20 or so years?
August 6th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
What! A woman driving an Esclade! Sure she did’t side swipe Rampage? (cell phone, make-up ect. - and not to mention what she was probably doing. . . )
August 6th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
No offense but everyone here is insane.
She miscarries 3 weeks later? Are you kidding me? OOO “sideswipped” at 45mph, yeah right. There’s more trauma to a fetus from riding a fast elevator.
Doesn’t mean a stupid as shit jury won’t want to make the scary black man pay, however.
August 6th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
who’s to say that Rampage did cause this or did not cause this, I’m going to sit on the fence until more facts come out. Considering people are jumping all over this, for and against is crazy.
When i first read this article, the first thing i felt was sorrow for the couple, how do you think Rampage is feeling though? Whether he is directly responsible or not that is a heavy burden to bare.
August 7th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
PATHETIC ….I Bet any money that the “pregnant” girls miscarriage occured after a calculated scheme to get money out of a mentally ill person. Sure Rampage was completely wrong and deserves the charges he is facing but this seems like a little much the lady is 38 the miscarriage could have ebeen caused by many things if there even was one
August 8th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty..i guess that doesn’t apply for certain people and the fact that it happened like what 3 weeks after..its unfortunate..but there gonna make a whole bunch of money off it..and i don’t know if those millions of dollars are gonna make up for them losing there “Fetus”..i don’t really know or not if a fetus is considered living but..im sure they had a connection to it..id feel awful if i were them..and if you feel awful might as well try to get a lot of money out of it right.. they will probably try for another..and it will probably have a good lifestyle considering all that money there definitely about to get
August 8th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
ok i did some research and a fetus is definitely a living thing..anything that can suck its thumb..is a living being
August 14th, 2008 at 1:45 am
Did anyone read the article. They noticed a significant loss of fluid after the accident. I guess we’ll have to wait to see the timeline of everything, but i can’t imagine her not being checked out after the accident.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:26 am
What all of you idiots fail tor ealise is that, yet again, your Profane minds are distracted by frivilous and extraneous news like this, while the finalisation of the North American Union comes ever closer. But I suppose you Americans love fascism, huh? Most of you probably don’t even realise what fascism is.
And put things in perspective. You have both sides of your so called government waging war on a country for things your own inbred president said, QUITE CLEARLY, were not guilty of. You allow your tax dollars to be used to drop bombs on innocents in the Middle East, yet you wanna bury REampage over something that has yet ti be proven?
As I said, most of you are a bunch of Fucking Morons. Enjoy living through REX 84. If you don’t know what that is, just remember what happened in New Orleans. If you have the capacity to think for yourself, which most of you don’t.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:27 am
What all of you idiots fail tor ealise is that, yet again, your Profane minds are distracted by frivilous and extraneous news like this, while the finalisation of the North American Union comes ever closer. But I suppose you Americans love fascism, huh? Most of you probably don’t even realise what fascism is.
And put things in perspective. You have both sides of your so called government waging war on a country for things your own inbred president said, QUITE CLEARLY, were not guilty of. You allow your tax dollars to be used to drop bombs on innocents in the Middle East, yet you wanna bury Rampage over something that has yet to be proven?
As I said, most of you are a bunch of Fucking Morons. Enjoy living through REX 84. If you don’t know what that is, just remember what happened in New Orleans. If you have the capacity to think for yourself, which most of you don’t.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:27 am
What all of you idiots fail tor ealise is that, yet again, your Profane minds are distracted by frivolous and extraneous news like this, while the finalisation of the North American Union comes ever closer. But I suppose you Americans love fascism, huh? Most of you probably don’t even realise what fascism is.
And put things in perspective. You have both sides of your so called government waging war on a country for things your own inbred president said, QUITE CLEARLY, were not guilty of. You allow your tax dollars to be used to drop bombs on innocents in the Middle East, yet you wanna bury Rampage over something that has yet to be proven?
As I said, most of you are a bunch of Fucking Morons. Enjoy living through REX 84. If you don’t know what that is, just remember what happened in New Orleans. If you have the capacity to think for yourself, which most of you don’t.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:28 am
Oops. Sorry about the whole leave three of the same message crap.
August 17th, 2008 at 8:47 am
Somebody’s been watching Zeitgeist! CR, your a smart person, did you go to college?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
August 18th, 2008 at 4:30 am
No. i am in Australia. i don’t believe in the education/ indoctrination system. That’s why I can see reality.
As for Zeitgeist, it raises a lot of good points, but ultimately it is Masonic Propaganda designed to further polarise an already polarised “Truth” “Movement”.
And as much as I like MMA, the synthesis of it all is really to raise people’s tolerance of violence; people who like violence tend to be more inclined to join the Military.
Got Incrementalism?
August 18th, 2008 at 4:34 am
And a big thumbs up to this website for not censoring posts. That is a very rare thing in today’s Sovietised System, where stupidity and blind obedience to the Status Quo is pushed liked the shit to the forefront.
Rampage: GET BETTER and whip Griffin’s Ass!
August 18th, 2008 at 5:06 am
GET THE FUCK OUT YOU FUCKING TROLL NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR YOUR FUCKING POLITICS ON A MMA WEBSITE. YOUR FROM FUCKING AUSTRALIA YOU TALK LIKE A BUNCH OF FUCKING KANGAROOS lol
August 18th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Thanks for demonstrating my point Goyim. Glad there are always those who prove why things are the way they are.
August 18th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
I don’t give a kangaroo’s boomerang; I need this juice in my life! CP, please keep me informed of all Rampage’s hoopla!! THE END IS NEAR!!!