MMA Fighter Challenges People to Punch Him in the Face, Everyone Fails

According to Zuffa, Golden Glory Firings Were a Result of Conflict of UFC Pay Policy


(..and we want the money in small unmarked bills in a black duffle bag.”

CageWriter’s Steve Cofield has Zuffa’s take on why it cut ties with fighters Marloes Coenen, Valentijn Overeem and John Olav Einemo this week.

Apparently it’s because Golden Glory — the team’s management group — requires promotions to pay its fighters purses directly to trainer and manager Martijn de Jong, who divvies up the monies owing to the respected trainers and managers before paying the fighters. Because the UFC has had issues with managers in the past not paying fighters what is owed to them,  they made it their policy that the checks go to the fighters, who then pay the members of their camp. Zuffa/Forza claims it told Golden Glory to change the way they do business but they refused, so their fighters were released.

Strikeforce is still allowing Sergei Kharitonov to continue to compete in the tournament, but according to the source, if he loses, he too will likely be cut unless GG changes it’s payment policy.

Somehow, it seems like there must be more to the story, but who knows?

UFC president Dana White, who managed few fighters including Tito Ortiz and Chuck Liddell when he first started in the business, has been vocal for a long time about his distaste for scumbag managers and has been known to contact fighters directly when negotiating fights with them. It’s no surprise that he’s playing hardball with Golden Glory after his publicized firing of Jon Fitch a few years back after the American Kickboxing Academy fighter refused to sign his video game likeness rights away for life in case he someday wasn’t fighting for the UFC and wanted to be featured in another game. White threatened to fire all of the AKA fighters on the UFC roster if they didn’t all sign the deal. Fitch eventually relented and was welcomed back to the UFC, but perhaps not by coincidence, has been overlooked for a title shot more than once.

Comments

  1. iadyn Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 12:45


    Seems like DW has gone crazy with power..
  2. Maine Blazer Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 12:45


    Maybe Fitch has been passed over because no one wants to see him fight
  3. Crap Factory Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 12:46


    Well, can't blame Dana there. Managers that screw fighters deserve nothing.
  4. Sgt. 606 Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 01:03


    Maine Blazer has it right. Dude is tough as taint and talented as hell but when is the last time he finished someone? GG is gone because they pushed against Zuffa agenda. Easy as that.
  5. Vunter Slaush Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 01:05


    I agree that the fighters should get their money directly, but Zuffa shouldn't be sticking their noses into the fighters business like that. If a fighter signs with a management team and is aware of how the purse will be handled then who cares if they get screwed over. They were to stupid to begin with to see it coming!
  6. Fried Taco Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 01:09


    If GG wants to play with the big dogs, then they'll have to change. Or become their own big dog. We'll see what happens.
  7. skeletor Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 01:39


    @Vunter- From what I've read on this subject it's not Zuffa policy but more of the policy of the athletic commissions sate side. I could be wrong though so don't quote me on it. Either way you would think GG would know how much the fighters were making and could come to some terms. It just seems to me that most of these orgs (europe) would rather there fighters not fight top competition. They can deny it but they don't do anything to prove that theory otherwise.
  8. Jugger Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 01:40


    GG is gone because they are a direct competitor of the UFC. GG is not just a stable of fighters, its a promotion. The UFC will not spend it's own cash to promote fighters who can generate revenue for competitor. It's so simple. Strikeforce promotes Overeem relentlessly in the US, raising his stock and trying generate interest in his career. He repays them by ducking the tourney and fighting for GG the following month. Contractually, I'll bet you that every GG fighter has open contracts because Coker didn't have the bartering leverage to lock fighters up. Zuffa is fixing all that and running things the UFC way.
  9. superflat Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 02:17


    So, let's get this straight: Rather than risk fighters not receiving every last penny coming to them, they fire the fighters outright so that they can't earn any money at all. Furthermore, we're to believe that Overeem, easily GG's most valuable fighter (or at least the fighter with the most potential), couldn't have worked out a different pay arrangement with GG to keep his job with Zuffa. This story doesn't add up.
  10. indiana Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 02:46


    @superflat: My thoughts exactly...
  11. bobafet Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 03:44


    Not so mysterious to me. It's kinda tough to dictate terms when you have no leverage. Too bad for GG's fighters they had to learn this the hard way.
  12. XENOPHON Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 06:22


    As if Fluffa never fucks any of their fighters out of coin...give me a fucking break. ...owing to the respected trainers and managers before paying the fighters. Because the UFC has had issues with managers in the past not paying fighters what is owed to them... This is Contract Negotiations 101 - you pay the guy that fights 1st, that way he can never point the finger to you, that you and his manager fucked him. The UFC policy has nothing to do with Dana White caring if the fighter is paid or not. The policy is based more on all that money UFC makes from every fighters video games rights allows them to hire slick-willy lawyers.
  13. mt59801 Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 06:30


    GG only had one guy ........the 'reem and he's made it clear that MMA is not a #1 priority for him. Marloes almost lost to carmouche and then ..... lost to Miesha "where the hell are all the ass gifs cp??we all want them" Tate
  14. djp1988 Says:

    Thu, 08/04/11 - 06:55


    I honestly would have been happier if Zuffa said "Fuck you, that's why." It would have been a more honest answer.
  15. SnackDaddy Says:

    Fri, 08/05/11 - 01:25


    Yep, the story doesn't ad up.
  16. ccman Says:

    Fri, 08/05/11 - 06:47


    Every article like this shows a very distinct lapse in business understanding in the nation. The ufc has contracts with a FIGHTER. Thet are contractually obligated to only the fighter. If the fighter wants to sign their check over to management the ufc has met contractual obligation and. Has a papertrail prooving thus. Either way they have taken great strides of removing the Arum\King model of paying themselves and and their nephew 200k to get coffee out of fighter checks. There was an article years back where they showed actual take home of some boxers after management and govt were done and it was like 20% of the actual purse. Management paid themselves more than the client made. I have not once heard a ufc fighter complain about this, plus it guarantees the fighters get all bonuses and locker room bumps ect that the ufc does everytime. You would need a huge anti establishment complex or be a a manager to dislike the practice.
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