And what is so damn crazy about someone getting knocked out with an up kick or practicing one? Gogoplata’s don’t happen every day but BJJ practitioners still attempt them in practice and have done them in fights.

I think your statement would have been even more effective if you said he was cordially invited to fuck himself.

And again, I actually feel like diving punches into the guard are somewhat common, certainly more common than seeing an upkick landed while someone is doing it. If you were really that certain, I have to think you wouldn’t resort to ad hominem attacks to make your point Sgt. So, in the spirt of the conversation as it’s headed thus far, go fuck yourself.

@macready:

I think we can all agree, that in the absense of statistics, KOs by punches occur with much greater frequency than KOs by upkick. The ratio of fights with punch KO’s/punches thrown is certainly much, much greater than the ratio of fights in which upkick KOs/upkicks thrown. The fact that you so rarely see upkick KOs suggests, ipso facto, that they are a fluky way to end a fight.

So do you really think Mousasi trains to upkick people and knock them out? That’s what I mean by intent. If he does, he’s a fucking moron. Upkick KOs happen when dude kicks his legs up trying to hit something. Sure, you can practice upkicks, but not with the intent of having them as a major weapon in your arsenal.

I was just commenting about LAS statement when he said “he certainly has yet to prove he’s top 10 P4P and some of the other ridiculous shit you here people saying.” I pretty much just meant I’m about as high on Mousasi and one should be and I still wouldn’t entertain the P4P discussion. I do think the dude has the best demeanor in MMA after Fedor though, Mousasi looks so relaxed and focused…that is what would scare the shit out of me, not some Krazyhorse type antics, but some guy whose just relaxed and expressionless about murdering you.

@portland mma

I don’t recall this being a discussion about Sassy being P4P. I think it’s too early to say that, too. I think Sok really showed up to that fight and Sassy took his time – just like you said.

I agree with LAS, I am big on Mousasi and I think he has one of the brightest futures in MMA, but with that being said P4P talk about him way to premature. I will disagree that Sok gave him everything he could handle I think Mousasi was just taking his time and wasn’t about to get caught with a Matt Serra.

@ LAS How many punches get thrown vs how many of them are knockouts? I wonder if the ratio is better for upkicks. I’m asking seriously, too – not just knee jerking like you . . .

Sure Sokodjou looked great, I think he’s realized that his shine is long gone and he needs to prove something and he trained his ass off.

It’s a fact that that upkick WAS intentional and I’m sure Sassy was intending for it to land with the most effect possible. What more do you want from a strike?

“The fact that someone on here is stupid enough to believe that Mousasi is so good that he can intend to upkick someone who is diving through his guard square in the jaw is absurd.”

What is absurd is that you can say that it’s absurd to say something COULD happen when it DID motherfucking happen.

Wow.

The reason why fighters rarely dive in through the guard is because of the upkick. It is a very effective striking defence that actually does work. Granted, the recieptient of the upkick usually doesn’t get knocked out, but he learns quickly not to dive through the guard. That is what makes Mousasi’s upkick so fucking impressive. Give the guy some credit. It wasn’t a lucky shot. I just have to believe that you don’t fully understand what you are looking at when you watch mma.

Even though he is a Republican (sorry I’m a dirty Oregonian liberal), Lindland is a really nice guy and an awesome teacher at Quest, not to mention how much he has done for MMA in Oregon with sportfight and his radio show.

Jacare is a beast and his BJJ is insane, but I think Lindland pulls out the upset here by grinding out a decision.

These kind of responses are exactly why somebody has to point out that while Mousasi may be a monster, he certainly has yet to prove he’s top 10 P4P and some of the other ridiculous shit you here people saying. So he utterly destroyed Babalu, the same guy who himself hadn’t beaten a top 10 opponent since beating Shogun in a tournament in 2003. And am I the only one who saw Mousasi getting all he could handle from Sokodjou for one round?

The fact that someone on here is stupid enough to believe that Mousasi is so good that he can intend to upkick someone who is diving through his guard square in the jaw is absurd. So you disagree with the one in a thousand notion? How many thousands of fights every year have someone throwing upkicks from their back (not even at a diving oponent), and how many times have you actually seen someone knocked out from one of those upkicks. QED, dumbfuck.

LAS – Mousasi really is that good. He may have only fought 1 top 10 fighter, but he utterly destroyed him in under 1 minute. And 1 in 1000 upkick? Your fucking stupid. Give yer ma my condolences for having an abortion that lived.

@LAS
Everybody was a little over board….but so was the criticism of Mayhem. Jacare won the first fight no doubt, it was not a boring fight. One thing that I think some people may be looking forward to is the different environment where this rubber match would take place(a cage) I find it speeds up the pace a little more.

Mousasi v. Jacare right now? Easy does it, I don’t want that fight to be burned too early, Mousasi=with Jacare in my books(at best) I would like to see Jacare fight a few more(no more than that though) times under Strikeforce format first.

Flukiest win ever Okami v. Silva.

That fucking vagina head will probably win this, but I would be tempted to throw a few bills on The Law. That line is way off if you ask me.

LAS – keeping Jacare’s nuts warm isn’t just a hobby for you is it? Haha, JK, at least you admitted that the Mayhem fight would be boring LnP.

No need to ice Sweet Sassy’s balls quite so much, though. He’s legit, seriously skilled, athletic, calm, cool and collected. There, I just had to warm them up a little bit since they were stuck in your testicle freezer.

@Get Off Me

I for one have no interest in seeing Jacare dominate Mayhem again. Mayhem is damn lucky he can even have a claim to a rubber match. He mounted zero offense the first time, and then won via super-early cut stoppage the second time before flashing any offense again. I have no reason to believe he wouldn’t get LnPed in another boring 3-rounder.

Jacare v. Mousasi is the rematch I’d like to see, given that the first fight had a total fluke ending. Winnning by upkick does indicate at all to me superior skill, given that the chances of landing a kick like that are about one in a thousand. That was even flukier than Serra-St. Pierre 1, but nobody wants to mention it since Mousasi is somehow a god despite having faced like one top 10 fighter in his whole career.

No, he smells.

Seriously though, Jacare by massacre.

Lindland will be reminded why he should retire when he loses tomorrow. Too bad he’ll still go on fighting

Jacare easily

very

he reminds me of dr. steve brule in that vid

What is with that music? Anyways – I was wondering, right up until this clip showed, why the pure grappling combat events never took more of a mainstream hold in american entertainment … now I see oh so clearly.

that video of lindland gettin owned reminds me of the national geographic channel.. a big ass snake just digested its food.. no fight, all business.

Fuck Susan Van Tax Us, that bitch is killing jobs! Matt wouldn’t do that.

On a serious note though Lindland is fucked, this might be one of the more boring fights on the card. Lindland will have no answer for Jacara’s ground game, and if Souza can’t finish him it will be a boring stall fest.

Jacare by Texas Cloverleaf in the 2nd round.

Lindland is done. The fighters have almost evolved into cyborgs, and Lindland is still fighting like one of the Von Ericks.

Get up stand up!
Jacare is going to win against Linldand, hopefully the next match will be against Mayhem….that’s the one everybody wants to see.
Jacare has a very agressive ground game and I can’t wait to see him power out of Lindland’s old tricks.

Pour some Lindland on me.