(Props: Keegan on the UG)
Affliction paid out a little over $3.3 million in disclosed fighter salaries for “Day of Reckoning,” pretty much guaranteeing that they’ll take a financial loss on this event, as we all expected. Naturally, the payouts include several head-scratchers and jaw-droppers, including $1.5 million to Andrei Arlovski for his 3:14 KO loss to Fedor Emelianenko last night. At least when you compare it with Tim Sylvia’s $800,000 loss in 0:36, it’s proportional. Now someone explain to Mark Hunt where his $4 million is.
Here’s how the disclosed salaries broke down:
Fedor Emelianenko $300,000 (no win bonus)
Andre Arlovski $1,500,000 (win bonus would have been $250,000)
Josh Barnett $500,000 (no win bonus)
Gilbert Yvel $30,000 (win bonus would have been $9,300)
Vitor Belfort $200,000 (includes $80,000 win bonus)
Matt Lindland $225,000 (win bonus would have been $75,000)
Renato "Babalu" Sobral $90,000 (includes $30,000 win bonus)
Thierry Sokoudjou $50,000 (win bonus would have been $50,000)
Paul Buentello $90,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus)
Kiril Sidelnikov $10,000 (win bonus would have been $25,000)
Dan Lauzon $12,000 (no win bonus)
Bobby Green $4,000 (win bonus would have been $4,000)
Jay Hieron $45,000 (includes $25,000 win bonus)
Jason High $10,000 (win bonus would have been $5,000)
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira $150,000 (includes $30,000 win bonus) def. Vladimir Matyushenko $50,000 (win bonus would have been $30,000)
L.C. Davis $14,000 (includes $7,000 win bonus)
Bao Quach $7,000 (win bonus would have been $6,000)
Albert Rios $6,000 (includes $3,000 win bonus)
Antonio Duarte $3,000 (win bonus would have been $2,000)
Brett Cooper $10,000 (includes $5,000 win bonus)
Patrick Speight $2,000 (win bonus would have been $3,000)
Thoughts…
Before we get to under and overpaid:
- Okay, we said it last time but it bears repeating. There’s just no way Fedor only made $300,000 (the exact figure Matt Lindland would have made if he had beaten Vitor Belfort) to fight in an organization that seems to be built almost exclusively around him. He must be getting money from M-1 in the form of guns or hookers or envelopes full of cash that magically appear on the nightstand in his hotel room. A just universe simply wouldn’t allow Fedor to make one-fifth of what Arlovski got for letting his hubris talk him into trying a flying knee in the first round, right? Right?! Must every last goddamn thing about him be shrouded in secrecy?
- On the subject of Arlovski’s flying knee, I have to imagine that when he came to and asked what happened and his corner explained it to him, he responded, “This is crazy talk. Why would Andrei try flying knee against Fedor? Andrei was winning fight with distance and hand speed!” Then they directed his attention to the replay on the big screen and he became very sad.
Now that that’s out of the way…
Overpaid: Paul Buentello. He made $90,000 with a win bonus of twenty grand. That means Affliction guaranteed him $70,000 to fight the 4-2 “Baby Fedor,” which is insane enough even before you remind yourself that not a single living soul paid to watch Paul Buentello fight last night. You’re telling me that if they’d offered him twenty and twenty he would have turned it down? Because I don’t believe you for a second, you lying son of a bitch.
Underpaid: Gilbert Yvel, and it pains me to say that. Affliction spent so much time trying to convince us he was a credible opponent for Barnett, then went ahead and paid him in guaranteed money what they were offering “Babalu” Sobral as a win bonus. Meanwhile, Barnett gets a cool half a mil for (in the words of Assemblyman Bob Reilly) sitting on top of him and punching him in the face and head repeatedly. Making $30,000 for fighting on the pay-per-view portion of an Affliction card is the UFC equivalent of three grand to show and three to win. In other words, it lets you know that they don’t give a damn about you.
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Comments
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:16
Fedor is certainly paid more than anyone there. He gets back-end money that isn't disclosed. Don't think for a second that Fedor is foolish enough to take 1/5 of Andre's salary. It just isn't so.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:17
they over pay fools like Paul and yet still give out 2k n 3k to the lower fighters, sad.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:17
Andrei definitely got paid lots but I think this is to some extent, out of Affliction's control. I know due to Andrei's past contract with UFC, UFC had some kind of legal right over him which then forced Affliction to increase the pay. I remember reading this here on CP too. This is UFC's way of bankrupting other organizations by having oppressive contracts...
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:18
Yes indeed, Contraband. He got lucky 29 times.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:18
Nice gif. Finally, some angles.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:18
yeah sure, he lucky punched his way to 29 victories
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:21
Arlovski....what a fucking performance. He was doing well standing and trading punches.....the dumbass got overzealous with that fucking knee. He is one stupid peace of shit. I dont know if this fight hurt his value or not but we sure know he does not have a good chin. Now, this chin is what everyone will be gunning for. Props to Fedor.....He leaves no doubt in anyone's mind that he is probably one of the greatest heavy weights mixed martial artists that ever lived. He is building a legacy that any mma fan will never forget. I always believed "The Natural" would have been the one to beat him but after Affliction 2, I dont believe Randy could ever beat him. Well that does not matter because that fight will never take place.....that is why we will never know. Again, Props to Fedor....I will never doubt him again.....expecially after loosing $500.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:22
Wtf, how did Josh Barnett get paid more then Fedor?! I always thought he fought for way more money then that. Andrei got a taste of his own medicine for when he caught Paul buentello with a blind shot back in the UFC.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:23
Fedor is a over hyped lucky puncher. I wish they'd a double ko'ed each other. We all know that Sam Hoger is the best HW now that he movedup.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:24
my son just said that guy in that vieo was sleep flying
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:25
Anonymous...."lucky punch his way to 29 victories" Fedor must then be the luckiest motherfucker in this planet.....either that or he is jesus or one of our future world prophets. I dont think it is luck at all....especially after his long victory list. The guys has a good skill of reading fighters well.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:34
Fedor is not simply just a "lucky puncher." He is a great fighter, however, there is no doubt that Arlovski was winning that fight - dominating it on the feet. If he stayed smart and opted to fight a possibley "boring" fight containing only quick exchanges he knew he could win, he would have easily ground out a decision against Fedor. He got over confident and made a foolish mistake. I for one am pissed, I was really hoping that Arlovski could be the one to usurp power from The Last Emperor, but I guess that task is now in the hands of Barnett...
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:34
sam who `?
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:35
That's pretty bogus. Over 3 mil in payouts, with probably 2 mil in earned revenue. Time to sell more tie-dyed shirts.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:50
Barnett is dead. who else could they match fedor up with that is out side the ufc?
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:51
Lindland FTW of being overpaid in the past two Aff bouts. Like the talk of lucky punches. Was he throwing a punch and aiming for the guy's head? Yeah? Well, it's not like he was throwing a kick and caught him with a fist instead. Or if he was aiming for the body and hit the head instead. THAT is lucky. A punch that has intention to land on the desired target and does is not a lucky punch.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:58
1.5 mill to a dumbass loser Like AA? wow....smell the fail. a show full of hasbeens fighting nobodys. I hope assfliction dies a painful flopping death.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:02
They said on HBO that ODLH got an enormous payday for showing up there as well, as in millions.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:05
WTF?! FTW!!!
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:11
Never realized Arlovski 360 actually stood for the spin Arlovski makes when he gets knocked out.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:14
Sure Arlovski was beating Fedor but we've seen Fedor been supposedly 'punished' before only for him to turn the tables in an instance. He is a warrior and can take a lot of punishment! I'm sure if the fight hadn't ended where it did, they'd have ended up on the ground sooner or later where Fedor is a lot stronger.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:15
While you homos argue whether fighters are overpayed, this still was a good card with high marks for variety and drama and fine endings. Fighters should make as much money as they possibly can. I have no problem with Buentello making more money when the other side is the UFC, their shitty contracts and making Jardine money to be a main event. Watching Yvel get pummelled was an extra bonus which was as enjoyable as seeing Big John back in the ring. He looked in the best shape Ive seen him in and about 10 years younger. Great card, great show except for Douchebag Ortiz and his "Hey buddy." Now go back to blowing each other and talking about who wore what and who did their hair in a cute way. The difference between the mouth breathers in teh comments is not that different from the mouthbreathers who write this crap.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:15
a flyin knee. has he ever thrown this against anyone? Why start with fedor.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:17
Arlovski was doing well,but its not as tho he was killing Fedor, in fact when you watch the fight a couple times you will see that he only had a very slight edge on Fedor. Fedor started off a little slower than his last fight against Silvia and admittedly the reason for that was Arlovski's punching ability, but then he got sloppy and Fedor ( like he has done numerous times before ) took advantage of his opponents mistake and capitalized on it.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:21
Andre made 4 times as much as fedor? thats fucked considering affliction is wrapping their entire event around fedor, lets hope we dont see history repeat it self like we saw with pro/elite xc and kimbo slice (who?)
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:33
I'm all for fighters making as much money as they can but a majority of the guys on that card were vastly overpaid compared to what they're really worth and as bad as the pay might be for some lower tier UFC fighters they never make less than 3K.... just sayin. If andrei make 1.5 million you know Fedor probably "found" 3 million "in the back-seat of a taxi" on the way to the hotel.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:44
@ realNick: funniest comment ever. cp give this guy a free t shirt or something.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:48
please, oh please, dana white, sign fedor and let him fight in those stupid samba matches in russia too. we just want to see the best fight the best, before fedor is too old and we don't give a shit anymore. god damn, i'm tired of this shit.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:51
Watch that gif again and tell me Big John isn't the fuckin' man! Lightning relfexes right there. Fedor was about a foot from Andre's crumpled body while John was at least 8 feet away yet he still got between Fedor and a snoring Andre before Fedor barely moved. That's awesome. Seriously though, how is that even possible?
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:54
I think it is a fair analysis that affliction is operating in the red. However, as a rule, a business always start in the red as they continually evolve their plan. How long did the UFC stay in the red? Hopefully Atencio and whoever else is helping organize this have planned on having deep enough pockets with enough working capital to sustain this. Competition from major organizations will only help increase MMA's popularity and hopefully equalize the fighters compensation. Affliction needs to reevaluate their marketing plan and pick up a couple more names. However, their product is good. They have the best heavyweight in the world (if he laid off the butter he could easily be the best LHW). They have a crop of fighters that they can rotate from show to show continuing to provide great matchups. WAR MMA.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 11:01
fucking sleep flying!!!! hahaha hilarious!!!!
Sun, 01/25/09 - 11:12
Fedor has a side deal with Tom Attencio. He gets to have a threesome with him and his husband.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 11:17
CP u guys r fuckin haters, Im happy for all those fighters if they woulda been fighting in ufc they wouldve got fucked, anyway the ufc WISH they put a card together like that, they put two fighters that fans wanna see and nobody tuffers on the rest of the card and expect fans to pay $44.99 for it... ufc paid one of their top fighters keith jardine only $10,000... andrei has good management thats why he got more than fedor, so stop hatin and sucin danas dick CP!! "ludicrous" yea the ufc card payout thats what u should be callin ludicrous... And UFC fan ur dumb.. U dont kno shit about MMA ur a UFC fan u pay $44.99 for a card full of nobodys that never fought anyone.. fuckin reality stars stfu!! all those "has beens" u talk about are real fighters, those guys fought for the ufc/ pride til they over flooded with tuffers.. Hussein's your daddy im with u, except for that part about tito i thought he did a good job last nite...
Sun, 01/25/09 - 11:36
Ok, check this out: theres this dude in the middle that didn't bet on Fedor winning. He's got like a stache-goatee combo thing and he looks kinda round...and pissed off.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 11:46
Making Tim Sylvia look like a bitch...$800,000 Exposing Arlovski's chin of glass...$1,500,000 Watching Lindland get KTFO'd...priceless. Guess it's back to politics bitch.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 11:50
Affliction should make Fedor fight a de-clawed grizzly...its the only way we'll get a contest
Sun, 01/25/09 - 12:07
Great fights!!!!!!!!
Sun, 01/25/09 - 12:35
I can't believe Barnett couldn't finish a guy who was supposed to be a pushover for him. 12 of 14 minutes spent in the mount and couldn't do enough damage for the ref to bother stopping the fight? I was waiting for Yvel to KO him from the bottom. If he had any kind of ground game, Barnett would have been in trouble. Now way Barnett lasts as long as Sylvia did against Fedor, but it'll be fine, that should still net him about 3.7 mil, on the "fighting Fedor" sliding scale.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 12:59
Where is the Tito bashing?? Man, my dog could commentate better than he did. Is English his second language?
Sun, 01/25/09 - 01:12
Lmao that was possibly the funniest comment i've read, so Fedor, who arguably is the greatest fighter of our time, Josh Barnett, one of the greatest wrestlers in MMA and Andrei Arlovski who was beating Fedor, and is greatly wanted back by UFC bigshot Dana White. Your a bottle of contradiction.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 01:44
i don't know how anyone can say arlovski was dominating fedor, a couple punches landed but fedor recovered. he got koed just like kimbo did by petruzelli. fedor's overhand counter was almost nothing yet it was lights out for arlovski. i definately think fedor got paid a shit load under the table, who would accept 30k when the the guy you got koed was getting 1.5mill? nice to see babalu released the anaconda choke quickly, feel bad for lindland though, good job vitor.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 01:44
I finally got rid of my crappy cable, and had DirecTV installed yesterday so I could purchase Affliction: DOR. I thoroughly enjoyed it and hope my small contribution will prevent the UFC from becoming a monopoly. In business (or the ring), competition is good.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 01:48
$3.3 million won't bankrupt this organization. They make more than that in sponsorship alone per event. Plus all the exclusive $80 shirts (actual cost to make $4.50 each) for the event they sell. Not selling pay-per-views can kill it though. No bar I could find was showing the Affliction, yet everyone pays the minimum $800 per fight for UFC fights.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 01:48
exactly. i just dont believe there is such a thing as a lucky punch ( except for the freeak things that u discribed). how is there ANY luck involved when you throw your fist with every intention to hurt someone and then it does EXACTLY that, what you want it to do. How is that luck? Strange
Sun, 01/25/09 - 01:53
loved the arlovski headbounce!!! gif please!!
Sun, 01/25/09 - 01:54
The top fighters deserve the big pay days. Boxers get a lot more than these numbers. What makes a boxer worth any more than an MMA fighter? Only the PPV it can sell or the value it adds to the HBO/Showtime line-up. Don't forget, most fighters have to pay for a gym to train and for their trainers.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 01:55
anon, not saying fedor's punch was luck at all, just saying it little power to what he is capable of. my statement questions arlovskis chin if anything
Sun, 01/25/09 - 02:10
How the fuck does Arlovski get $1.5 mill when Fedor gets $300,000? Especially considering that they are constantly milking Fedor for his name and publicity to promote their damn shows. That feels criminal to me.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 02:25
Although, not the angles Arlovski would want.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 03:27
Fedor bated him to counter his reach, made him think he was dominating so he could end up putting his fist through his head
Sun, 01/25/09 - 03:38
That was a great 1-2. 1 being Fedors right hand. 2 being the mat.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 05:18
anyone who thinks fedor was lucky is a mug.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 05:32
Arlovski would have totally won that fight IF IT WERE A BOXING MATCH. To bad "dominating" the stand-up for 2 minutes by landing a couple punches doesn't win an mma fight.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 05:35
@Contraband LOL
Sun, 01/25/09 - 05:40
GOD!! please dont let these guys go out of business.. so that we can keep enjoying the show.. please.. they are just stupid, you know? they are not bad people...
Sun, 01/25/09 - 05:42
and damn was it good to see that redneck Lindland get tagged. dude stopped harder than mccain/palin.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 05:45
Arlovski got played. Dude's got no chin, but he's lucky that second punch didn't hit. It would have decapitated him. Josh Barnett isn't near worthy. He should fight Sylvia or Arlovski first. He'll get killed by Fedor.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 06:25
I Guess the bonuses are out of control if you're paying them otherwise who gives a fuck! And if you do give a fuck maybe you should jerk off a little more!
Sun, 01/25/09 - 06:37
How is Tito not on the overpriced list? That fucker got no money for announcing, and he still deserves to be on this list. His announcing sucks more dick than Jenna. No wonder he thinks he is a top 5 LHW, he thinks Vitor is 131 years old. Don't let him guess how many jelly beans are in the jar...Tito is obviously no mathematician
Sun, 01/25/09 - 07:04
Thing is I dont think that punch would have knocked Mark Hunt out. Actually he wont even be throwing a flying knee but what ever. Affliction is done.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 07:20
It looked like the punch stunned him and the icing on the cake was his face smashing into the mat... LOL!!
Sun, 01/25/09 - 07:29
looks like Freddy Roach forgot to train 'lucky punch' defense
Sun, 01/25/09 - 07:51
That whole statement is a joke, right?
Sun, 01/25/09 - 07:57
looks like Freddy Roach forgot to train 'lucky punch' defense ROFLMAO!!! Thanks for the laughs dude. www.fromthecage.com
Sun, 01/25/09 - 08:56
Affliction did a better job this time around but they need to get rid of some commentators/interviewers and hire a financial advisor. These salaries are ridiculous! I'd like to see them put more good shows together.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 09:36
Heh. Another Bet with Fedor...Another win, I still don't know who in their right mind would be against him. As for the fight yeah, he was losing on points, but it was the first few minutes of the first round. Not once did I see him confused or flustered. The same Fedor came out, Ice water through his veins. This guy is absolutely the best fighter ever and I would bet on him against anyone.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 10:59
Arlovski is going to have nice rug burn on his forehead courtesy of the mat. That's the only reason why he didn't get up. He knew it was nasty.
Sun, 01/25/09 - 11:37
How the fuck does Arlovski make a million five. Fedor needs a new fucking agent. No win bonus vs $250,000 for arlovski. If I were Fedor I would knock the fuck out of my agent and talk to Arlovski's. Fedor, please get some new fucking representation, you deserve so much more
Sun, 01/25/09 - 11:38
Lucky Punch, are you for real, I hope your joking
Mon, 01/26/09 - 12:12
Fedor does get back end money. He got paid 300k for the first affliction and then got 1.5 mil in the back end. Im sure the same will occur again. I was at the fight, about 10 rows back , in the middle with outstanding view of the fight. I was on Fedor's side of the ring and Royce Gracie was a few feet away from me. I also bought the pay per view so i saw it in person and on tv. The bottom line was arlovski was beating fedor. Fedor look out of his element and had worry on his face. Even during his walkout to the ring, fedor did not look like he normally does. Arlovski's punches were too fast for Fedor to handle. The knockout punch was a lucky shot. You can call him lucky 29 times, but thats not true. This time it was luck, the shot was not planned he just threw it and if Arlovski had not thrown the flying knee the punch would have missed just like the earlier over hand right from fedor missed. I think Fedor would even admit to that if he would ever truely answer a question. I was also at the first affliction and if you watch the two fedor's there is a big difference in the punches as well as the overall fight attitude. Fedor was so worried about this fight, he cancelled all of his press here in so cal to continue to train for arlovski. He view arlovski as a true threat.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 12:23
Too bad these paychecks won't last for the fighters. Back to the PFC and Strikeforce making 5/5 guys. Sorry.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 12:51
Andrei was tapping fedor on the head...not doing a damn thing. After knocking him out, Fedor could have ran ten miles, drank a few beers, pounded on some hookers, slapped Tito in the face, and then knocked Andrei out again. Major props going out to Bobby Green...in my opinion the most entertaining fighter of the night...got to love the HOOD style. And don't tell me he didn't know what the hell he was doing, evaded many submissions and almost made a fool of Lauzon. If Lauzon is ever even on the UNDERFIGHT card of a fight, i will not order it.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 06:41
Sam Hogar? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...... oh god thanks for making me laugh like that seriously.... I needed that this morning. I really hope you're joking...
Mon, 01/26/09 - 08:53
Affliction definitely lost money. It wasn't even on PPV in my area, and I live right outside Washington DC. There were only two bars in the greater DC area that were carrying the fight according to affliction's website. And you know anything associated with Donald Trump is going to fail. It's a three ring circus between Tito, Donald Trump and their cost / profit ratio. I don't know how anyone can take the seriously as a respected fight organization. And its sad to see that Dana White is Pulling a Don King on all his fighters. I think it's time to put a real business man in as President of the UFC. That organization has finally grown to the point where you don't need that behavior from the head of the company. Pay your fighters what they are worth before you lose them and your loyal fan base. It's only a matter of time where another organization will break into the USA market and destroy the UFC. I give it 5 years.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 08:59
What? Sam Hoger?? Are you smoking some of your own "contraband"? Hoger couldn't stand in the same ring with any ElieteXC castoffs. You're out of your mind.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 09:01
Look, Dana White said that Fedor's management wanted over $2 million per fight during their negotiations. Now, I know nobody believes Dana White, even when he is being straight about things. But then Mark Cuban said the same number, $2 million per fight, back when he was negotiating with Fedor and Couture. If you still think Fedor actually made $300K, then also take the word of Monte Cox, who said, when his relationship dissolved with M-1 Global and Fedor's management, that he simply cuoldn't find a way to make it profitable since Fedor's management wanted $2 million for the first fight, and a progressive scale for more than that on following fights. So, while Dana White's word might not hold much water around here, it is hard to refute when three separate sources (that don't much care for one another) all say the demands were the same. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if in "Affliction Land," that $2 million is somehow turned into $3 mil or $4 mil based on their over-pay structure. So we are realistically talking about a total payout of $5 mil or $6 mil. That is a lot in losses. I like Affliction, but I don't see how they can keep up this business model. I've also heard that the reason attendance was so high is the massive number of comp'ed tickets. And I think Affliction only has one more really compelling fight they can put on with Fedor vs. Barnett (even if Barnett was pretty boring in this past event). After that...... what comes next that will bring in revenue?
Mon, 01/26/09 - 10:21
wait a minute... with how much they paid their fighters... Does that mean their shirts are going to be $145 and their jeans $850 to make up their loss?
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:05
I agree with you man, it is impossible that fedor just get that little money, I am sure under the table probably he got much more than AA.
Wed, 01/28/09 - 10:32
Andrea is such an over-rated heavy weight. I have no clue why sherdog has him ranked as the second best at his weight; and they def need to start paying Fedor more, He brings the crowd, not fuckin Josh Barnett, I could care less if that guy retired.
Sat, 01/31/09 - 12:44
Wtf is up with Arlovski getting 1.5m and fedor 300k? :O misstype? fedor got 3m or he really only got 300k? if thats the case wtf is there problem, handing some random guy 1.5m and the worlds best heavy weight gets pocket change?
Wed, 02/11/09 - 01:15
stfu u idiot, fedor is the best and will be the best until someone stops him. He has dominated everyone he has fought and seems to be growing with his power.
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