(Post-fight presser footage, via Versus.com)
Anderson Silva seems to be getting too used to disappointing fans. Check the look on his face when a reporter takes him to task for not doing more to try and finish Thales Leites. He seems more bored than anything else. His manager and Chuck Liddell both get angry for him, but it’s as if Silva himself can’t be bothered with it.
Dana White will continue to defend Silva’s status as the world’s best pound-for-pound fighter, and he has a lot of good points, particularly about Fedor being “at a buffet in Russia,” and not at all interested in proving himself against the best in the world. But at the same time, if the world’s best fighter can’t entertain anybody but himself, what’s the point?
This is the second straight time Silva has left us bored and confused with his performance. He’s so concerned with fighting a “perfect” fight, he doesn’t care whether anyone actually wants to see it. That’s a problem. The UFC set a North American attendance record with 21,451 people packed into the Bell Centre last night, and yet the organization’s best fighter may have spent five rounds proving to the audience in the venue and at home that he isn’t concerned in the least with giving them their money’s worth.
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Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:10
FIRST AGAIN BITCHES. NOW WHAT.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:12
SILVA IS GETTING PAID REALLY GOOD MONEY UNDER THE TABLE BY ANOTER MMA ORGANIZATION TO SHIPWRECK THE UFC BUISNESS. THAT HAS TO BE THE ONLY REASON THAT HE IS NOT FIGHTING LIKE A CHAMPION IS SUPPOSED TO FIGHT, THE WAY HE USED TO FIGHT. I'M SURE THAT DANA WILL BE TAKING SOME KIND OF ACTION SOON FOR THE FACT OF SILVA NOT PERFORMING THE WAY HE SHOULD AND CAN. SHIT LIKE THAT WILL HELP TO RUIN BUISNESS FOR THE UFC IF DANA DOES NOT TAKE SERIOUS ACTION. SILVA SHOULD BE PUT ON THE UNDERCARD FROM NOW ON. HE'S NO CHAMPION. HELL, EVEN OLD MAN LIDDELL WOULD HAVE BEATEN SILVA TONIGHT. ANY ONE HAVE ANY SERIOUS THOUGHT, AND RESPONSE TO WHAT I'VE JUST SAID.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:13
There's no legit competition for the Spider. Blame the MW division, not the champ. 205! 205!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:21
if theres no legit competetion for the spider how come he didnt put him away then?
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:22
it's up to the challenger to make the move, he's the one who has to forcefully take the belt away from the champion. It's the last two challengers who have just stood there. Why should any champ rush or force something on the challenger? Doesn't make any sense.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:23
Thales was gay. All he did was go to boot scoot. Sad to say I think its time for the pride yellow card to come back.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:29
Anderson and Lyoto are like the two best friends that always sit together in the back of the class through every grade and really need to be separated into different classrooms. The point karate "touch and run" standup style that they have cultivated together has proven to be modern MMA's equivalent of Royce Gracie's guard back in the 80's. A highly effective defensive strategy that frustrates an opponent enough over the course of a fight that he begins to make mistakes, overcommit, and leave openings, but which is mind numbingly boring to watch for all but the most technically knowledgeable fan. Of course we all know that an effective counter to Gracie's guard was eventually developed (ground and pound) and I suspect that the Greg Jacksons and Mark Delagrottes out there are already crafting game plans to solve the backpedaling and awkward punching angles that Silva and Machida present, but regardless, it would probably be in their best interest to just shelve the tactic and fight to dominate instead of squeaking out wins on points. Dana isn't stupid. Look at how hard he's fought to keep Machida and Okami away from the belts and out of the spotlight. If Silva keeps fighting this way and loses the title, it may be a long time he sees a shot at it again.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:42
I'M THE ONLY ONE HERE THAT HAS NAILED IT RIGHT ON THE MONEY. THIS HE IS THE CHAMPION AND DOES'NT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING UNLESS ATTACKED BULLSHIT IS FUCKING JUST STUPID TO EVEN SAY. FOR EXAMPLE, IF I'M THE CHAMP, AND YOU CHALLENGE ME OR WHATEVER THE CASE BE, THEN I'M GOING TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF YOU, AND FINISH YOU AS STRONGLY AS POSSIBLE SO I COULD GO ON LOOKING LIKE A CHAMPION THAT I AM. FUCK THAT PUSSY ASS SILVA BULLSHIT. READ MY SECOND POST ON THIS ONE, AND THEN GO THINK DEEP ABOUT IT FOR AWHILE.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:43
If MMA fans lose faith in silva based off two fights, one where his opponent messes *himself* up before silva could do his usual thing, and the next where the opponent's too chicken-shit scared to engage when his plan to win fails and just guards up, then those people should get into another hobby...go play WoW or something.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:54
Dana White, don't speak of Fedor that way. I don't think he ever talks a lot of shit. Just sayin...Karma's a dirty bitch sometimes.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:55
fedor is not the best in the world?!? really dana? shut the fuck up.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:55
Cap Lock, what the fuck is your problem? Go stick your fucking keyboard down your throat. Here are my two predictions as to what kind of mma dude you are irl: You're the chick at the bar screaming "Knock him out, knock him out..." When the knock out clearlt is not an option at that moment. All because you don't know shit. or... You're the dude with the totally raddd affliction shirt trying to fight someone, All because you don't know shit. You fucking terd. Silva fought smart last night. It says nothing in the idiot's guide to being a champ that you have to let yourself get beat on. He had solid defense and worked his space. He was smart to not engage with Leites on the ground because that dude has a mean ground game. No one can talk shit on Silva, especially without a well thought out answer on how or who to stop him. Plus no one on this site could hang with the champ even in sparring. que all tough guy fighters. By the way, you should be most pissed about Wiman getting robbed by the worthless judging. also... CLH, eat a dick.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:55
I hate to break it to you guys, but this sport is not here for fans. It's not about selling tickets and PPVs or even making bloggers happy. Mixed-martial arts is the modern avenue for warriors to put their skills to the test without having to declare war on your neighbors. The rules set in place, for a variety of reasons, are there because there needs to be limits in the interest of convenience and safety. However, some people seem to think it is Anderson Silva's job to sell tickets and live up to media and public expectation. If you think this, you are a very shallow individual. Of course, the UFC needs sales to exist but I think the emphasis and disparaging comments on Anderson Silva not finishing Leites (and to a lesser degree, his fight with Cote) are unjustified, ignorant and selfish. The truth is that Anderson wants to be the perfect fighter. He wants to be remembered as the best and that is bound to backfire on him badly if he underestimates somebody and rushes in to finish a guy who basically turtled the entire fight. That would leave him open to (god help us) a flash KO, or even a submission. Silva doesn't want to make that mistake because he values perfection. He believes in being a warrior and being the best warrior. Fuck your PPV buys and your expectations of a highlight reel finish. This is just a case of the best fighter in the world trying to preserve his status.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:55
I play WoW and I love Silva so gtfo. Anyway, Silva just wants to evolve and he thinks Machida's fighting style is the way to do so. Sad but true.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:56
CagePotato you guys have got to be kidding me! Of all people, Chuck Liddell is defending Anderson Silva. I'm convinced, most American fans are ignorant. Yes, I'm American. I understand why fighters appreciate Japanese crowds. Do you expect Anderson to just KO his opponents in 30 seconds every time? It is really hard to KO someone who runs away and is scared to engage. Oh Please. Okami!?! What are you going to blame Okami for Dean Lister's flopping?? What do you expect Okami to do? Mike Swick realized midfight that he didn't want anything to do against Okami. His opponents make him look boring because they are afraid of his power! Scritchandscratch dot com
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:56
After 9 fights in the ufc anderson has either knocked out, stopped or submitted his oppenent in 8 of them. If 8 out of 9 isn't good enough for you then I would suggest that your not a real mixed martial arts fan, and that you should probaly just go watch street fights on the internet or something.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:57
FUCK YOU WOW IS THE BEST GAME EVER MADE, I'LL BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YOU WITH MY 80 WARRIOR IN EPIC GEAR LIKE THE CHAMP I AM. I KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW ABOUT MMA AND THERE'S A CONSPIRACY HERE I KNOW IT.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:57
I like Aderson as a fighter, BUT when you're an elusive counter striker, you "need" a challenger to rush in and be aggressive to be "exciting". Challengers know that if they rush in, they'll get picked off and KOed, so now they're hanging back and trying to force Anderson to be offensive rather than deffensive. Anderson's too diciplined and patient to be sucked in. On the other hand, Anderson needs to start creating his opponent's aggression by coming forward with some sort of offence to provoke his opponent into starting an offence of their own. That part of Anderson's fighting seems to be missing or lacking. And I think if he did that, it would make for a more exciting fight for the casual fans. Of course Chuck would defend Anderson, he's a counter striker too. He understands the frustration.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:58
Listen you stupid fuck. I am sorry you do not understand mma and can not see what really happened last night. Leites had a plan and it didnt work. His BJJ was supposed to be far superior to Silvas but guess what? That shit is useless if you can't get your opponent on the ground. The champion isnt stupid. You cant blame him if Leites was scared to stand up with him. If any blame has to be placed on the fight being boring it goes to Leites and the UFC for putting this fight together in the first place. The reason Silvas earlier fights were exciting was the opponents he has faced. Leben, not afraid to bang with anyone. Franklin, also willing to mix it up. Henderson, willing to clinch and had confidence in his wrestling. I wish they would put a gsp fight together. Better yet, I wish they would put it in Canada again so that greasy fuck would get owned in front of his home crowd.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:01
shizz: I'm pretty sure communism doesn't support MMA.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:06
I think it's really arrogant of people to say he's "not fighting like a champion". When does style or enthusiasm have anything to do with winning? He has a strategy, he wins - like any sport. If you mean he didn't win the way YOU wanted him to win - well? Who the fuck are you and since when does meeting your standard of winning determine success? Winning is winning. I like different things in fights that you do - why is your way "getting your money's worth"? This is a pretty arrogant way of looking at a sport you seem to like. Thales Leites sucks. Big surprise he put on a shit fight. If you just want to watch exciting fights, then stick to WWE - they're always thrilling! If you like watching martial artists fight - offensively and defensively - then enjoy your MMA and don't whine like a little girl because you came for monster truck and got a chess match instead. It's not my fault you don't know what the hell you're watching.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:07
I understand Anderson's point that you need two people to fight.... wait, actually I don't. If you have one guy who comes to fight and another guy that doesn't, the guy TRYING to fight should wreck the other guy. People can use the "he's elusive, technical etc..." talking points all they want to but if you truly are the best in the world there is NO reason you couldn't finish him off unless you just weren't trying. Ever since he renegotiated his contract he has been boring as hell to watch. His last fight on the old contract was Irvin. Since signing for bigger money he has decided to be "elusive." This is how boxing started falling apart, as soon as the fighters started making big pay days all they do is go out there and hug each other for 12 rounds.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:08
Look untill he loses he's still the best. Being aggressive all the time will get you caught like Faber did against Brown.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:10
It's one thing to fight a defensive fight and it's another thing to look like you're not trying at all. What part of "techinical" do the salsa dance moves play? or the Karate Kid act in the Cote fight? That's not technical that's a guy who's out there fucking around collecting a check. I understand technical when i see it and I don't mid watching it, what i do mind is some one out there just mailing it in.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:12
Oh how fickle the mood of the mob. I would disagree with your assessment there, whoever wrote that on CP. I think the question here shouldn't be whether Anderson Silva is bored with the level of competition or whether he is responsible for entertaining the audience, whatever that means. What A. Silva needs to do, and he knows this better than anyone else, is to remain the champion. So far, he hasn't wavered from that objective, and it's not up to us to judge his merits as a fighter based on how he does that. It's like some of us complaining about how boring the San Antonio Spurs are, but they are always, consistently and maddeningly, among the top-tier of the NBA teams. Sure, we can diss them about their professionalism and their "boring" effectiveness. What we can't challenge is the notion that they have a proven track record of achieving success within the parameters of the competition. We can ask for entertaining fighters. Look no further than Wanderlei Silva. But look what it has done to his career lately: 1-4 in his last five fights. Or Chuck Lidell for that matter. Let's not knock on Anderson Silva's commitment to this sport. If nothing else than to question our taste on what counts as an entertaining fight and what ultimately sells the sport to the wider audience: blood and broken bones. Some fighters like A. Silva and L. Machida have figured out how to avoid having the worst of it while being the top dog at the end. Until someone changes the present reality in a way that we want it to be, we'll have to tip our hats to them for their uncanny knack of self-preservation at the cost of others. Oh and, um, WAR SILVA!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:12
CP, you're an idiot. I usually tolerate your asinine opinions because you're not the slowest in reporting the news. However, your rant about Silva is bullshit. After 5 rounds in a championship fight one fighter didn't have a mark on him while the other was bloodied up. What would you have him do? Jump into Thales' guard? Oh, how about chasing Thales around the octagon and risk getting caught? Is he supposed to throw his entire training camp out the window just to appease a group of idiots that want blood? He is a professional fighter, not an entertainer. However, I was entertained (as well as the entire sports bar where I watched the fight) when Anderson side kicked Leites' knee, when he did that crazy reverse sweep, or when he cross checked Leites' half hearted leg kicks. The fault in that fight lies squarely with the outclassed and overwhelmed Leites. Anderson did what he could without making a stupid mistake. I'm sure that everyone would be all over Leites if he ran into a fencepost or left shit stains on the mat everytime his scared ass hit the mat.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:13
A counter-striker? Karate like Machida? Are the last two fights all you've seen of Anderson Silva? He's a destroyer, forwards and backwards. Actually, he reminds me lately of Roy Jones Jr in his prime. He wins, intelligently, without putting his career or health at risk. No one else besides Machida does that right now - just appreciate the art. Next time don't match him with an opponent who neither takes risks striking or grappling. Blame Leites, who never fought to win, only to survive.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:15
"MMAshed", did you even watch the fight? Anderson threw probably 200 strikes in the fight. Thales threw maybe 20. Probably every 5th strike by Anderson, Thales either ate the shot and backed away, or fell to the ground with his guard open. The one time he got Anderson to the ground (which admittedly is all it should take for somebody who's BJJ supposed to be his golden ticket in this fight), he lost position instead of gained it. You've obviously never been in a fight or haven't watched much MMA that wasn't at the conclusion of a TUF episode. Short of bull-rushing the person (which Anderson refuses to do because he'd rather not get Ryo Chonan'd again), it's both frustrating and difficult to finish off a guy with a punch when he doesn't engage for more than a second. The reason this wasn't a TKO was because Leites kept circling away and falling to his back. And the implication that Anderson is taking fighting less seriously now that he has a new contract is both ignorant and foolish. If you know anything about AS you know he trains every day as hard as anybody else. And it shows because when he gets in the cage, it's clear he's on a different level. It's not a fluke he's that good. He's put his life into this and it's paid off. As somebody else said, if you want to watch somebody get TKO'd every fight, go watch those poorly trained amateurs at Rio Heroes. No room to run away in their cage.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:17
@ANONYMOUS, I BELIEVE THE MAJORITY OF US WANT TO SEE A FUCKING FIGHT WHEN WE TUNE IN ON PPV OR ATTEND A LIVE SHOW. ANDERSON SILVA HAS NOT DONE A VERY GOOD JOB AT PROVING HE IS THE CHAMPION IN HIS LAST 2 FIGHTS. I'M A HUGE MMA FAN, AND PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST FANS TO THE SPORT BUT AS OF HIS (SILVA'S) LAST 2 FIGHTS I SHOW LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS MUCH MORE ACTION, DOMINANCE, AND EXITMENT IN STREET FIGHTING FLIX ON THE WEB THEN HE IS OFFERING TO US FANS. HE SHOULD BE STRIPED OFF HIS BELT, AND PUT ON THE UNDERCARD FROM NOW ON AND WORK HIS WAY BACK UP TO THE TOP, AND IF HE DID'NT LIKE IT THEN SHOW THE MOTHER FUCKER THE DOOR, AND MAKE SURE IT HITS HIM IN THE ASS ON HIS WAY OUT. SILVA SURE IS DOING A REALLY GREAT JOB AT HELPING ME THROW AWAY MY FUCKING MONEY ON THESE PPV EVENTS. I'M RIGHT ON MY SECOND POSTING ON THIS TOPIC, AND THATS THAT. YOU'LL SEE SOON ENOUGH SO SHUT THE FUCK UP, AND THINK ABOUT IT YOU FUCKING IDIOT.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:18
"Kneetotheface" Please, don't assume I'm some TUF noob because I call bullshit on the talking points. Even Dana said he was upset with that fight. Half of those strikes were side kicks to his knee, You're not trying to finish a fight with that. I don't have to see a knock out every fight, in fact i'm not one of those fans that even boos where there isn't "action" for 30 seconds. Anderson just didn't look like he was trying at all. Call it elusive if you want but I'm not buying it.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:19
HE DOESN'T SPEAK ENGLISH...what do you expect him to answer? His manager was speaking to him. The fans showed a total lack or respect. Only in north america will fans boo athletes. This is MMA not Backyard brawls. If you want to see that just watch Kimbo Slice.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:22
What makes Silva great is that he is an intellegent fighter who is technical, precise and above all creative. This is what makes him a spectacle. Unless you have trained or are at least an educated viewer it may be hard for you to understand what you're seeing, just as jiu jitsu is to a casual fan. If Silva has the opprotunity to knock out his opponents he does bottom line, otherwise he does not put himself if a vulnerable position so that your monkey ass can see someone bleed. If Michael Jordan didn't score 50 every game was he still not the best.would you start talking shit if he scored 14 two games in a row. If you want a spectacle watch the WWF or whatever they're calling it these days, as for me I want to see the best fighters in the world in a cage doing what they do best. Silva forgive these haters, for they no not what they see.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:25
fedor #1 pound for pound fighter
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:25
I'm pretty sure a torn ACL would end a fight. Those kicks were fucking br00tal.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:27
name says it all, anderson played it safe so that BETER fighters wil come to him, good on him, i would have done same
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:30
Ultimately in any sport, at the highest levels, superior defense usually is the trademark characteristic of the Champ. Not always, but more often than offense. Basketball, football, MMA, chess, it doesn't matter. When two technically "near perfect" opponents face off, the deciding factor is typically who makes a mistake by gambling and being too aggressive. Until the MMA world evolves to solve the point karate defense tactically, it will continue to be a trend. If that doesn't happen, the UFC may have to adopt a point system that punishes for lack of aggression like the yellow card in Pride. If that strategy costs a fighter points rather than scoring them, it will quickly go by the wayside.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:32
CAPS LOCK HAL - you are a fucking retard...enough said
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:33
@Capslock - It's not Silva's job to entertain you. It's his job to fight and win. Regardless of your stance on Silva's objective, I think we MMA fans can all agree that if you want a guarantee that a fight is exciting, that is what WWE is for. It's called fixing fights. @shed - I was wrong to unjustly categorize you. However, similar to what I said before, I think it is wrong to judge Silva because he chose not to leave himself open to attack. Could he have finished Leites? Yes. But doing so would have left him open, and there's simply too much at stake to take the risk. What would an upset last night have done to Anderson's legacy and his status as the best fighter (or second best, depending on who you ask)? Silva cares a lot more about that than giving the fans a highlight. And he should. Because as I said before, MMA is not about entertaining fans, selling tickets and giving Dana White an excuse to be proud of money. It's about proving who is the best and being a true warrior. Which Anderson Silva is, and Thales Leites is not. That showed through last night when Leites refused to engage and was unable to implement his one-dimensional game plan against one of the more rounded fighters in the game.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:36
It's very simple. He didn't try to finish the fight whatsoever. That's why hes not p4p champ. Not only did he not try finish; he fought with no class. He didn't try attack. Not everyone fights like Leben/Franklin/Ervin.. You can't just counter to win everything. Machida showed how this style is used properly is his last few fights. Just because someone who isn't a striker isn't walking right in like you would like; can't get all pissy and just not fight.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:37
Douche bag, er I mean, Caps Locked Hal, that's why you write idiotic douche bag rants on the web instead of working for the UFC. Moreover, that's why you don't fight. As the self ascribed biggest fan of the sport, you should recognize that all the fighters that "give the fans what they want" have been put on their asses. You're just too stupid to realize it. Why don't you make your point by keeping your PPV dollars in your Hello Kitty wallet. If you want to be entertained, why don't you go watch the WWE. I won't see that you're right. I'll see that you're fucking stupid.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:38
"@Capslock - It's not Silva's job to entertain you. It's his job to fight and win. Regardless of your stance on Silva's objective, I think we MMA fans can all agree that if you want a guarantee that a fight is exciting, that is what WWE is for. It's called fixing fights." Name an UFC headline fight in the last 10 years that was like THAT.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:41
"particularly about Fedor being “at a buffet in Russia,” and not at all interested in proving himself against the best in the world." Ya best in the world like 3-1 Lesnar. A twice beaten Nog. A no ground game Kongo. A "I have only one significant win in my entire career & that's CC" GG. An over the hill 47 year old Couture who just lost to 3-1 Lesnar. We have yet to face much quality competition but we are the next greatest things Dos Santos, Carwin, & Velasquez. I am sure Fedor is literally shaking in his boots about this level of competition compared to fighting Arlovski, Barnett, or Overeem. Learn to think for yourself moron, the only credible threat to Fedor is Mir in UFC. By the way if you want six packs rather than great fighters go watch gay porn along with Dana White or both of you can can co-promote some bodybuilding crap.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:43
Maybe they should do away with the whole contender stuff. They could just pick guys up in the street and ask them if they'd be interested in taking a beating from one of the best fighters in the world. They could cram like 5 guys a round... Silva would have to finish a guy per minute. Otherwise it would become a 2v1 then a 3v1 etc... That way, everybody would be entertained.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:45
And yes side kicks to the knee can end a fight
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:54
FEDOR IS #1. GSP WOULD GNP A. SILVA. A. SILVA is OVERRATED
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:56
@Anon - When was the last UFC headliner to feature such a cosmic gap between the fighters? Even GSP-Serra was less of a given. My entire point is that it's not Silva's job to entertain you. He won without leaving himself exposed to an upset. Maybe some people think that's wrong, but it's a decision he's entitled to make as a fighter.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:17
First, if the only way Silva got to keep his belt was to win by KO or submission, he would have quickly done that, but it's not, and there's definitely no sense in forcing the issue to get that when the opponent is clearly trying to be coy, avoid a big exchange of attacks, and force the issue on the ground by falling down. Trouble is, if you want to be the champion, you can't fall on your ass over and over and expect the champion to be so kind as to give you a break by letting you work your game. Second, if there were a fighter that is as good or better than Silva, they would make Silva raise his game in a fight and force him to pull out all the stops, and you would get a great fight that is well worth the money. There are no incentives for him, as a fighter, to have a wild martial arts match. He's also the champ now, he's not an up-and-comer, so it's up to the next generation of Anderson Silvas to tear ass and come forcefully take the champ down just like Silva did to others. Or (hopefully) he'll try to climb the ladder at 205, and there, there will be no excuses for matches like this one. That's why I think there's no legit competition for him at MW - there's no one that makes him raise his fighting level to the peak. Also - you might think his antics make him look like a jerk in these fights, but how do you think it makes the opponent look, that the guy he's fighting is dancing around and there's nothing he can do about it. If some regular fighter danced around like that, they'd promptly get put in their place.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:17
100% agree with KneeToTheFace: Silva is the champ and Leites the challenger. Leites didnt go in willing to challenge, fight or win. he ended up getting completely outclassed by a BORED Anderson Silva. why would Silva risk blowing out his knee or getting caught over a guy he knows he's gonna win a decision over? he played it safe and it paid off; he won
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:17
@fedor fights pussys .....look at his opponents on any legit website like sherdog. he has beaten arlovski, syvlia, mark hunt, mark coleman (twice), mirko cro cop (incredible fight), nogueira (twice), kevin randleman, etc... know your shit fedor fights pussys...pretty stupid name
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:39
KneeToTheFace is on the money. Guaranteed. Just stop posting and read his posts.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:46
When has Fedor ever fought a boring fight? What makes a fighter great has less to do with how many opponents he defeats but with how he defeats them. If Silva could destroy Rich Fanklin twice, why couldn't he do the same to Cote or Leites? Fedor has fought fighters far better than anything Silva has faced and has never been boring about finishing them. The UFC continues to call the 185 lb division "stacked". If Silva is having this much trouble putting Leites away, I'm curious to see what he would against some of the talent in the StrikeForce 185 lb division. I can't wait to see what GSP is going to do to him. I won't say Silva isn't one of the best fighters in the World, but he is nowhere close to Fedor for the pound for pound title.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:50
ring rust sounds like one hell of an std
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:50
So he's not a champion because he fights a smart fight? Not enough blood to satisfy you? Maybe you'd be more interested in watching professional wrestling.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:54
Good post.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:09
This isn't meant to be a racist comment, but speak English already Silva instead of hiding behind your translator. Cote, GSP and Machida have the balls to do so, why doesn't he?
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:30
Maybe you try to understand and speak portuguese some time, then ask someone to translate that to you and THEN, see if one thing matches the other.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:43
lol @ silva ranking over fedor. ray j over all of them bitches. now what!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:01
That was a ridiculous fight to watch. And whether or not Anderson Silva thinks he has no worthy challengers, a true champion, and a so called p4p best would not spend the better part of 2 rounds trying to end someone's career with repeated side kicks to the knee. I posted this before but it needs to be repeated; that kind of tactic will get a player in the NFL (or any other professional sport) suspended for a season. Can you imagine any other champions doing that (GSP?/Fedor?/Couture?). He may well suffer from Mayweather syndrome, best in his mind, but who cares. Without an attitude adjustment, he is finished as a PPV headliner.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:13
Those knee kicks probably came out of frustration. Even then, thales did nothing but stand there. Here is a guy trying to end my career and I just stand there because I'm too frightened to even fight back. It's a good thing Silva didn't sneeze at any point in that fight. Leites would have just been blown away.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:00
DW - "Fedor is at a buffet in Russia right now". Where is the zinger in that? The fact he might be eating at a restaurant or that he is in Russia or both? DW is a tool pretending that Fedor is not all that he is. Even if he doesn't fight with you, doesn't mean you have to throw credibility and reason out the window. I've never watched a boring Fedor fight, and Silva's last two attempts have been disgraces.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:03
Fedor= the best, he KO's the UFC's previous 2 HWC
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:27
The critics of Silva would only be appeased with a barrage of haymakers and a knockout in the first round... the days of Chuck Liddell are gone. You same critics would be whining if the fight went to the ground and it was a bjj battle. Its like when Mike Tyson was knocking people out in seconds... when it went to the later rounds all the dumbf*cks and moronic commentators would whine that something was wrong... go back to your trailer park and watch Chuck Liddell reruns to get your fix.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:40
Ok, let me break it down... Anderson Silva is not a fucking retard you guys.. If you have the iq of a 10 year old you know that rushing in with legkicks and punches against a world champion in bjj is not such a good idea.. From any point o view i think Leites was thinking the same thing, he probably figured out that making stupid takedown attempts may end with him getting a knee in the face because he surely knew that silva is much faster. Now i can see where a lot of you guys are coming from and i sometimes don´t like Silva feeling out process that sometimes takes a whole round of just dancing around.. That sux ass.. But was Silva doing the right thing? Damn right.... Was he right to be cautious ? Yes he was.. Was that the best performance Leites could do in a fight for a belt? Hell no and if it was, his next fight should be against the likes of Butterbean or Ken Shamrock.. About the Fedor thing... Can´t belive that Dana still talks so much crap after he has beat 5 ufc champions, pound for pound or not he still is unbeaten and gsp and silva is not.. I dont give a fuck about the p4p but Dana looks like a fucking clown everytime he opens his mouth about Fedor.. Jesus
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:45
I can't stand how people are saying if you think Silvas performance was boring then you are not an educated enough fan. Thats bullshit. I understand everything that goes on in there, and maybe that was his only option but fuck him! That shit was the most boring fight I've ever seen. Leites should be booted from the UFC he will never be a champion and he proved that last night, does Kaleb Starnes ring a bell? I don't really see any difference between the two at this point. MW division sucks and always has in the UFC bottom line. Oh and FUCK CAPS LOCK HAL! By far the biggest idiot to ever post on this site. We get it alright, you don't know shit so shut the fuck up
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:49
@Bojangles Realy? Thanks for enlightening all of us. Now shut the fuck up adults are talking here.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:55
give em a small cage to fight in lol
Sun, 04/19/09 - 06:58
wow i cant believe what dana said about fedor. he is living in his own little world if he thinks that fedor has not beaten the best. And he keeps giving anderson chumps to fight. Dana White is RETARTED!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:20
go fuck yourself silva.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 09:08
Say what you will about the Silva fight, but I will NEVER forget where I was the first time I saw a guy get punched and elbowed in THE FOOT!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 09:32
Silva For President!
Mon, 04/20/09 - 03:09
Caps that was one of the stupidest comments that I have ever read. Yeah putting a champion on the undercard would be really good for business. Here's some advice why don't you try taking your head out of your ass while you are typing.
Mon, 04/20/09 - 04:53
if you want to see entertainment, check WWE and Raw. fakewrestling is the thing for you people. in my opinion mma is about fighting, not about entertaining douchebags with designer t-shirts...
Mon, 04/20/09 - 05:45
You know what the problem is? These fucking reporters and assholes in these press conferences ARE NOT fighters. They do not understand the workings of a fight. They do not understand that you can't have a spectacular knockout finish unless one guy or the other A: makes a mistake that the opponent can capitalize on, or B: throws themselves at their opponent wrecklessly. Anderson Silva fought the perfect fight and won the perfect fight. The fact that it didn't end as a knockout should be blamed squarely on the shoulders of Thales Leites for running away and throwing a combined 12 strikes (exaggeration [sort of]). If Thales Leites had come into that fight determined to stand and bang with Anderson Silva, then he would have gotten knocked the fuck out. As it stands, Anderson Silva fought the perfect fight and won.
Mon, 04/20/09 - 05:55
Dana needs to put him against GSP. That would be an amazing fight!
Mon, 04/20/09 - 06:38
Anderson silva is a fag little bitch...
Mon, 04/20/09 - 06:45
That's because Machida out strikes Silva when they spar. It's obvious that Silva has decided this is a better fighting style, and I agree. He's going to win every fight like that, and if his opponents decide the best way to counter this style is to hang back and not do anything then that's not Silva's fault. Silva will probably work out a way to be a little more offensive for his next fight, plus I doubt he'll get matched up with a strong ground guy ever again. I think Silva looked amazing, if he gone after Leites when he turtled up I would have been shocked. If you want to take it to the ground then you need to bring the opponent down, not lay there and hope he comes down to you.
Mon, 04/20/09 - 08:38
Greg Jackson is the key to making anderson work for it. A) make him fight GSP B) Make him fight Marquart again C) Jardine D) Evans all of them will stay in his face
Mon, 04/20/09 - 08:42
1. Anderson's resonsibility is to first win the fight, then...if possible, provide an exciting fight. 2. When facing someone who boot scoots, falls on his back at the first sign of trouble, and circles back and to the left, knocking someone out becomes much more difficult. 3. We have all gotten a little spoiled by Anderson, and Thales was scared shitless in the cage last night. 4. Fedor is the best P4P, even if he is a heavyweight, IMO. Could Anderson have REALLY pressed the action and gotten the KO? Probably. Was his opponent really giving him a chance to? Not really. Is it up to Anderson to press the action against an opponent who is stalling, especially when he can just lay back and pick him apart with precision striking? No, I don't think so.
Mon, 04/20/09 - 09:13
Here's the thing, when Tim Sylvia was the champ and started letting his fights go to decision, people were saying it was boring - not smart, like they are saying with Silva. Granted they aren't in the same class but Sylvia had a similar, conservative game plan and that kept the belt around his waist.
Mon, 04/20/09 - 01:56
My thoughts exactly. Thank you homie
Mon, 04/20/09 - 01:58
And to all those who think Fedor is the best pound 4 pound fighter. Other than Tim Sylvia, who has he beat?
Thu, 04/23/09 - 04:55
the funniest thing is that Dana always prides himself on having THE best fighters in the world... now lets look at Fedor's track record. wins over : Andrei Arlovski, Tim Sylvia (in 36 seconds), Kevin Randleman (after a mega suplex to the dome), possibly Josh Barnett, Mark Coleman (twice, and mark is a hall of famer in UFC) all of whom are previous U.F.C. HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD (shout out to bruce buffer) Fedor has also beat Herring, Big Nog, Sobral, and Cro Cop. All of these peope fought in the U.F.C... Dana. grow up dude. just because he didnt sign your contract doesnt mean the dude isnt the greatest.
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