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B.J. Penn Brings His Mom to NSAC Hearing, Commission Still Does Nothing


(If mama ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy.)

B.J. Penn brought the big guns to today’s hearing with the Nevada State Athletic Commission.  Not only did the Hawaiian have his lawyer on hand to go over his twenty-page complaint, Penn’s mother, Lorraine Shin, got up and read a statement that, according to MMA Weekly, “accused the Commission of not doing its duty to protect fighters.”

That’s right, Penn brought his mother.  And she was allowed to deliver a statement for some reason.  Apparently someone was worried that this whole greasing scandal thing hadn’t gotten ridiculous enough yet.  Problem solved.


GSP wasn’t at the hearing, but Greg Jackson and Phil Nurse were there to offer testimony acknowledging their error in putting Vaseline on GSP’s body, but they both insisted it was unintentional and said they’d be open to rule changes to prevent a mistake like that happening again.  

The commission also looked at video evidence from UFC 94, and questioned the relevant parties about greasing in general and substances one might use to become especially slippery.  All of this, of course, resulted in absolutely no action from the NSAC.  Executive Director Keith Kizer said he has “no plans to bring anything against anybody in this case,” though the commission could decide to take the formal inquiry further if they want to.

According to the Las Vegas Sun, Penn’s lawyer vowed, “It’s definitely not going to end today.”

Penn is also quoted as saying: “The ultimate vindication would be a rematch and kick his butt.  A good vindication would be a fair rematch and if he beats me fairly, I’ll be the first to shake his hand."

Oh, Christ, B.J.  You’re not getting that rematch.  The best thing to do is to admit that he already did beat you, that greasing didn’t affect the outcome, and then move on with your career as the best lightweight in the world.  But you’re not going to do that anyway, so screw it.  Might as well drag it out as long as possible.

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pennFAN22- December 31, 2011 at 8:12 am
Seriously, you trash haters really need to calm down. Why would BJ lie? What would he have to gain by making a "loss" blow up more if it wasn't true? He's lost before and excepted it, it's not like he complains like this about every lost, come on, the dude is an honest anazing fighter ... He's not the only one that it's happened too, he's the only one with enough balls to do something about it. So all you haters get over it and let BJ PENN do his damn thing.
Anonymous (mike)- March 23, 2009 at 3:34 pm
in response to GSPWON!!!'s post. While I agree that BJ is whinning a little excessivly in interviews and what not, he does have a legit reason to be in talks with the NSAC about this. Clearly new rule's/changes need to take place. Personally I would like to see personally hired cut men not allowed at all. Let the athletic commissions take care of that. Corner men should be allowed in the cage, but not allowed to touch the fighter. This will eliminate any questions in the future.

However, for you to say that the Vasoline would only have affected 2 attempts to get a high guard , and ONLY in the 2nd round is absurd. Again wiping GSP down with a towel will not eliminate the Vasoline at all. Any guard manuevering would be drastically affected, not to mention take down defense. Very hard to sprawl and use affective underhooks if someones shoulders and back are greasy.

I also agree he needs to get training and focus on Kenflo (no easy opponent).

Mike...
GSP WON!- March 20, 2009 at 10:28 pm
The simple fact here is that even if B.J. did slip twice in attempts to pull a high guard those two(and only two) times in the second (and only second) round because of a bit of vaseline. A half way clear witted person who knew nothing about the sport could see that it did not definitvely, or even (to be honest)partially influence the outcome. It's juvenile, pathetic sour grapes that someone who got his ass so completely kicked could have the balls to do this. What about the stand-up? What about the effortless guard passing? What about the take downs for Gods sake! This moron just needs to shut the hell up and take his medicine. You were beaten B.J now....shhhhhhhhhhhhh! If you decide to stick around, have fun at 155 where you belong, I'll even watch you fight........but PLEASE be QUIET!

Anonymous- March 20, 2009 at 10:24 pm
b.j. lost
GSP WON!- March 20, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Good thoughts. The simple fact here is that even if B.J. did slip twice in attempts to pull a high guard those two(and only two) times in the second (and only second) round because of a bit of vaseline. A half way clear witted person who knew nothing about the sport could see that it did not definitvely, or even (to be honest)partially influence the outcome. It's juvenile, pathetic sour grapes that someone who got his ass so completely kicked could have the balls to do this. What about the stand-up? What about the effortless guard passing? What about the take downs for Gods sake! This moron just needs to shut the hell up and take his medicine. You were beaten B.J now....shhhhhhhhhhhhh! Now, if decide to stick around, have fun at 155 where you belong...but PLEASE be QUIET!
Anonymous- March 20, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Wow, it never ceases to amaze me how many stupid people are out there claiming to be true MMA fans.

SO buddy, you say BJ had the right to bring this to the NSAC as a complaint. Then you say he is a "spoiled little brat" to actually show up to the meeting you say he had the right to get? I can see bringing mom in to give a speech about risking fighters health by not governing the greasing more specifically being a little much, but people need to realize what "ramifications" can come from greasing.

Has anyone is this b.s. of a forum ever even trained in BJJ? Now have you trained in BJJ without a Gi? Sweat alone makes an effective guard very difficult. Let alone any type of lube. And to anyone who thinks wiping with a towel will remove Vasoline, go take a dab, rub it on a non-hairy part of your body for about 10 seconds, then see if you can wipe it off. IT DOESNT COME OFF without soap and water. Whatever Vasoline was still there quickly mixes with sweat and creates a huge amount of lube.

Would GSP have won? Probably. Does it matter NOT AT ALL.

Could GSP not have realized what was happening? Yes but VERY doubtful. His whole camp knew of the complaints already given to the UFC and various athletic commissions from : Matt Hughes, Sean Sherk, and one other fighter I cant recall right now. Wouldn't you take every precaution to ensure you were a true winner if you knew people were already complaining that you felt much more slippery than any fighter before you (I think Matt H has enough experience to know this).

Is BJ whinning? Absolutely! But he has good reason to. His camp doesn't want the belt, or to have GSP suspended. They want what makes sense. Call the fight a "No- Contest" GSP keeps his belt, but he must return the portion of his pay that was a "Win Bonus". Rematch or no rematch this makes the most sense.

Lets all stop talking like 13yr old computer douche bags and try and have an intellegent discussion about cheating/greasing, and the ramifications. I am a GSP fan, a BJ Penn fan, and just a fan of MMA for over 12 years. I have rolled with the late Carlson Gracie out of the Gracie school in Chicago with Stefan Bonner. I have met a dozen UFC fighters including GSP (great guy) and think that people need to show respect for fighters, even if they dont agree with them. GSP, BJ, Rampage and all UFC competitiors have spent their entire lives training and conditioning to entertain us, and to make a living/name for themselves.

Suppose somehow BJ whethered the punches and was able to sink in one of the many subs he is know for? He has done it before to bigger stronger faster fighters. He would have stood to make almost triple what he did money wise. I sure as hell would be making a stink if someone cheated too!!! Try on someone's shoes before you talk trash hiding behind a keyboard.

Mike...

(P.S. for all the losers resorting to name calling and vulgar flaming....BJ would crush you regardless of size, and you would be the cry baby. ;-) )
LW Contender- March 20, 2009 at 11:37 am
Its about time BJ defends that title,its the second he wins a title and never defends it,the first time they stripped him,now its been since UFC84 since he won it from sherk,he calls it a defense,technicaly Sean lost his title to BJ,so its gonna be way over a year and over 20 UFC events that BJ has been hogging the title!...i doubt he will fight again he's taking this further now he's gonna file a lawsuit again GSP...


he looked like a NUT in court with his mother,they asked him a simple YES or NO question,he start rambling all over the place making excuses wide open,start talking about sherk/roids/someone offered him HGH,and some stupid example about how would a tennis player want to call himself champ if he has to wear special shoes to win?,the commission stopped him from talking,said its not about roids/sherk/HGH or drugs...LMAO...i seriously think BJ is loosing his marbles
Anonymous- March 18, 2009 at 10:34 pm
By the way, UFC Fan, you must have suck BJ's nut so much that you are dreaming of some one doing it to you...keep dreaming because all your life will just a stupid and looser like your idol...mama's boy BJ...hee..hee.

Remember, I may like GSP but I am not as classy as GSP. I can be sob...just so I can talk to a true sob like you. Dumb shit ass. :-)

Don't worry, I won't cut your nut and feed it to a hungry dog..like the one shown in the primetime...so you can breath in and out and post some more stupid statements. OK? Happy?
Anonymous- March 18, 2009 at 10:26 pm
UFC Fan Says..are you talking about yourself? I agree with you that you are a dumbass sob too. :-) Stupid sob.
UFC Fan- March 18, 2009 at 10:09 pm
You are dumbass son, get a clue and then suck on diz nutz.
Anonymous- March 18, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Unbelievable that there are still quite a lot of fan of this idiot mama's boy, childish BJ. Classless and paper-tough fighter.
UFC fan- March 18, 2009 at 4:21 pm
GSP didnt cheat. his cornerman screwed up, gsp was wiped down by anal retentive judges.
BJ Penn got his brain scrambled, and no Vaseline caused it. a buncha punches to his ugly melon caused it. he QUIT, hes a fucking quitter.
BJ is a whiner, a mama's boy.
H e got told by the nevada commission that he was blowing it out of proportion and his wants were outrageous and wouldnt be considered. Now if his stupid fans like johnny dumbass would just learn there was nothing to this, get over it.
as for the tool who said "lets just habe GSP/PennII" hey dipshit we had it, that was last fight, if you KNEW anything you woulda known that NO ONE is interested in seeing a third fight.
Anonymous- March 18, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Yeah JohnnyWad...quit being his nuthugger.
Anonymous- March 18, 2009 at 11:20 am
Johhnywad needs to pull his head outta his ass, get your facts straight, do a little research, and not just make excuses why crybabyj lost the fight.
Johnnymack..- March 18, 2009 at 10:33 am
A point on GSP...We all saw how good GSP was when he made his octagon debut..but lets be realistic about the guy..In his first match with Hughes they were pretty evenley matched for strength..then in their remathches he hulked out and tossed one of the strongest welter wieghts in the world around the ring like he was a child..The guy is on growth horemones and he is greasing..Say what you will but the tape doesn't lie..Nurse rubbing vaseline on GSP's neck, shoulders ,back and arms is not a breathing technique, it's bullshit. IS GSP good? Sure...but he will never be a true champion in my eyes until he does it cleanly..For all his false humility and understated attitude the guy is a crafty, ambitious SOB that uses questionable tactics to give him an edge.
For all you geniuses out there babbling about Vaseline not effecting Penn getting punched in the face..The dude has one of the most dangerous gaurds in mma..If his legs hadn't kept sliding down the slip-n-slide that was GSP's back he might not have taken all those shots. Penn didn't accuse Hughes of cheating when Hughes smashed his face in..He admitted that his cardio was lacking and did what he needed to..he came back and beat pulver..then stevenson ..then sherk..Say what you will about the guy but he wins legitemalty, without "growth aids" or "breathing techniques". Is he a shit talker and a bit of a spoiled brat? sure.. but he is a purer and more respectable fighter than GSP will ever be.
backbaconbilly- March 18, 2009 at 9:48 am
CBJ's cred is done. This no longer has ANYTHING to do with IF vaseline gives a fighter an unfair advantage. He was perfectly in his right to bring up his complaint then leave it in the hands of the commission. However CBJ wasn't satisfied with leaving it alone he had to keep pressing the issue and that is exactly the typical spoiled little brat response when someone doesn't get his own way IMMEDIATELY.
I have said this before, he did not once show ANY respect towards GSP and congratulate him on being the better fighter that evening, CBJ still thinks in his delusional mind that the vaseline made a difference and because he is a spoiled brat he will continue to sulk and whine and bitch for as long as he can. He needs to stfu get back in the gym and prepare for kenflo. No-one will ever give him back the respecthe may have once had as a fighter, all we will remember of him was his insessant crying and whining.
One last point, if he even so much cared what his fans thought then he would have stepped back and took a long hard look at himself and refused to go down the slippery slope into deuche bag-ville which is where all this whining has put him.
the truth- March 18, 2009 at 9:46 am
ok , vasoline would make both of them slippery , and would affect both of them in the same way. I guess thats why he beat john fitch and many other fighters that are also BETTER than BJ. Maybe I could see the argument if it was a fight but it wasn't.............You can call it a fight , there was no competition! It wasn't close. BJ PENN is not as good so thats why he lost. Stop making excuses for him b/c he's made enough already. HE came out and talked all kinds of shit and got beat to the point whre he was afraid to even come back out after the fourth round. No need to say more b/c that said it all. Kiss the rings bitch. Penn sucks
Anonymous- March 18, 2009 at 8:48 am
Jesus christ MAD MIKE....do you still get your milk by sucking on your momma's tits?
BJ is just a whiney little bitch..and so is anyone who gets their mom to fight their battles....FACE IT!!
MAD MIKE- March 18, 2009 at 8:43 am
IF THE BOND WITH YOUR MOTHER IS GOOD THAN THERE IS NOBODY IN THE WORLD YOU CAN TRUST MORE!! SO EVERYONE PUTTING HIS MOM DOWN SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymouse- March 18, 2009 at 7:47 am
BJ's mom against GSP's mom - winner takes all.
Anonymous- March 18, 2009 at 7:42 am
One word: delusional
Johnnymack..- March 18, 2009 at 7:15 am
wow..So because BJ is kind of an asshole that completely exuses cheating? Greasing is not allowed for a reason you fools..It can directley effect the outcome of a fight..It's slippery..for subs and a good rubber gauard you need a grip.. grease negates a good grip..GSP is an excellent fighter with tons of speed and power who deosen't need an edge but who tried to get one anyway..Sure I lost respect for Penn but because of his attitude coming into this fight and his obvious lack of cardio..again...But I lost more for GSP, who is a fking liar if he says he had no idea of what was going on. He's been greasing, pure and simple..And anyone who thinks thats fine and other fighters are idiots for complaining isn't a true fan of the sport and only watches for the spectacle of fighting...This includes you CP. Your attitude seems to be that becuase GSP would have won anyways it somehow exuses his cheating. And I ask again..Why are people acting as if BJ is a horrible fighter now? THe dude has two belts in different wieght classes and has fought no one but the best in mma. I don't want to come of as a Penn nut hugger but give the guy his props.
the truth- March 18, 2009 at 7:06 am
BJ penn is just mad that he looked bad after talking soooooo much shit. He got beat by a better fighter and is ashamed to admit it. He is good but has always been over hyped and I have NO respect for him now and neither do fighters who see that he brought his mommy to make it all better..... Grow up rich boy, you got your ass kicked in front of Millions of people and the reason that he won't get the outcome he wants is b/c A lil' vasoline had nothing to do with him getting TAKEN DOWN 4 thousand times , and loosing while they were standing up. he was saying how he was willing to die and was to afraid to even fight for the 5th round. What a fraud
bobzemuda- March 18, 2009 at 6:46 am
The B in BJ no longer stands for baby, it stands for bitch.
Nukeblast- March 18, 2009 at 6:17 am
BJ don't want a rematch at all...it's so obvious.
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