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Brandon Vera Still Upset About Werdum Fight. Still.

(Having that same Olive Garden vs. Uno’s argument again, eh? We’ve all been there.)

Brandon Vera may have changed weight classes at the UFC’s, um, suggestion, but he isn’t forgetting about his plan to return to heavyweight and settle his score with Fabricio Werdum. In an article on CBS Sportsline Vera looks back on the fight and addresses the notion of whether the stoppage might have been justifiable, given the situation:

“Justifiable? That shouldn’t even be in that sentence, man. That was an (expletive) (expletive) call. I was talking, having a conversation with the referee, telling him I’m OK, and then he stops the fight. I wanted to know what I could have said. ‘I’m fine?’ ‘Everything is spectacular?’ What else was I supposed to say to the referee? Justifiable? That word should not be used in conjunction with that fight, ever.”

Man, do I love it when someone follows an expletive with an expletive. It really lets you know how they’re feeling, and it’s almost more powerful to write “(expletive)(expletive)” rather than just print the actual words.

That quote does, however, bring up the topic of what justifies a stoppage. Vera was certainly in a bad spot, but does the fact that he was capable of having this conversation with the referee mean that it shouldn’t have been stopped, even if he was eating some punches? If we’re going to by the spirit of the rule — which is to protect a fighter who isn’t “intelligently defending himself” — it would seem so.

Vera seems content to lay all the blame at Dan Miragliotta’s door, even making it a little personal.

“I watched the Kimbo fight and thought, ‘Man, that ref sucks. I hope I don’t get him in my fight.’ Usually in the locker room the referee will come to you to go through the rules. I didn’t see him until I was in the Octagon, and then it was too late.”

That’s a moment that will make your heart sink. I imagine it’s a lot like having your fight go to decision and then looking over and seeing “Sensei” Cecil Peoples sitting next to the Octagon.


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Kalib Starnes- July 11, 2008 at 2:07 am
teachbug- July 10, 2008 at 9:12 pm
people who type in all-caps is retarded....and I didnt read a single loud word of it.
waste of time all-caps guy.
Craig- July 10, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Steve (HANDS OFF THE FENCE) Mazzagatti- July 10, 2008 at 2:50 pm
I agree that Vera needs to stfu and move on from this loss but I do feel that I (and all other viewers) got robbed of a large amount of that fight simply because Dan can't tell the difference between intelligent defense and flailing limbs.
Spotpuff- July 10, 2008 at 12:13 pm
This has already been done to death. Vera lost and he needs to get over it. It's not the ref's job to know how much time is left; if he looks away from the fight for a second to check the clock and someone gets hurt it's his responsibility. Vera's responsibility is to not get mounted and pounded for 30 seconds.

What if Verdum had mounted vera at the 3 minute mark and pounded on him and Vera said he was OK the whole time? How long do you let that go on?
Ouch! That hurts- July 10, 2008 at 11:33 am
That's a good strategy, I'll try that next time I'm in a fight getting my face caved in. I'll just yell "I'm OK, I'm OK."

I bet that fight won't get stopped to soon!
Warcraft- July 10, 2008 at 11:20 am
You can blame refs for alot of bad stops but this one wasn't one of them IMO.
I would like to see this fight again. Please let Vera tell the ref everything ok while Werdum drops punches and elbows to his head.
He needs to get over this and stop blaming the ref who was only looking out for your sorry ass in the cage.
At least "Try" to Buck a guy off you when he mounts and Vera won't have to tell anyone expletive about expletive case closed.
Apexified- July 10, 2008 at 4:04 am
Maybe now that he's LHW he won't be so helpless when he gets mounted that he has to try riding it out by talking to the ref. He could have at least flapped around a little more instead of looking so resigned.
shitwhistle- July 10, 2008 at 1:27 am
Is the pool of capable refs really that limited? Do these refs sign long term contracts? How does a ref continue to do a poor job and still get work? Why won't Gina Carano return my emails? These are the questions that keep good, hard working people up at night...
GSP for Prime Minister- July 10, 2008 at 1:12 am
I gotta side with Brandon Vera on this one... although he was mounted, he was CLEARLY "intelligently defending" himself!!!
MKXii- July 10, 2008 at 12:50 am
A lot of Miragliotta's matches recently have been stopped short.
natureboy- July 9, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Big Dan Miragliotta needs to ref a Gilbert Yvel match ASAP.