Did Brock Lesnar Harm MMA’s Image at UFC 100? No, Just His Own

(Say what you will about his sportsmanship, his howler monkey impression is unassailable.)
Let’s get one thing straight: Brock Lesnar acted like a jerk on Saturday night. Even by Lesnar standards, which have a certain expectation of jerkishness already built in, he conducted himself poorly. First he got right in Frank Mir’s face mere seconds after TKO-ing him, just to let us know that he had no intention of being a gracious winner. When the fans didn’t care for that, he gave them the old double Stockton Heybuddy and implored them to keep booing. He finished by embarrassing a UFC sponsor and making tentative plans to get on top of his wife, who had to be as flattered as a stripper asked to work the lunchtime shift when she heard that one.
But the question is, with the increased media visibility of this event and this fight, did Lesnar do damage to MMA’s credibility as a real sport in the eyes of mainstream media and casual fans? The answer is, not unless they’ve never seen pro sports before.
There’s no excusing Lesnar’s behavior. Steve Cofield seems to think that Lesnar playing a typical pro wrestling heel was “pure brilliance” because it made fans feel something about him. Of course, that something was negative, which is the easiest kind of feeling to evoke, so maybe we shouldn’t be so impressed with a guy’s ability to make himself hateable. In non-scripted sports, showing zero class in victory isn’t an accomplishment, it’s a character flaw.
But the truth is that Lesnar is not a stand-in for the entire sport of MMA, and anyone who knows anything about sports (like, say, sportswriters) should know that. When Terrell Owens or Manny Ramirez does something to remind us how selfish and emotionally crippled he is, we’re not so quick to accuse him of hurting his entire sport. That’s because we realize that in any given group of people, some are bound to be assholes. Some are going to shake their opponent's hand after they win, and some are going to act like a guy who just found out he is not the father on the Maury Povich show.
Maybe it’s the MMA fan’s tendency to be overly protective of their sport that keeps us from realizing that here. But Lesnar didn’t embarrass the sport with his behavior, because the sport is much bigger than him. He only succeeded in embarrassing himself, and he did that with startling efficiency, turning what should have been a triumphant celebration of redemption into a one-man show of egotism and boorish behavior.
That’s Lesnar’s problem, not MMA’s. The vast majority of fighters are true martial artists who give their opponents their due respect. Guys like Georges St. Pierre, for example, who doesn’t need to push all the easily accessible villain buttons to get people to care about him. Lesnar is the exception.
We don’t need to praise him for exhibiting qualities that none of us would aspire to or even tolerate for very long in our own lives, but we also don’t need to worry that he’ll harm MMA. He’s just a player, not the game itself.
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portland mma Says:
Dude what the fuck? Don't compare Nick and Brock. Say what you want (I know the Diaz haters will) but Nick loves the sports, Brock is raping it.
Sheps Says:
Brock embarrased himself not the sport, Henderson embarrassed the sport with his big right hand on a man that was already unconscious and letting everyone know he meant to do it after the fight.
NECROPHYTE Says:
This picture says "hey look @ me I have a gi-cock-ic cock on my chest!"
The Lizardking05 Says:
"Did Brock Lesnar Didn’t Harm MMA’s Image at UFC 100? No, Just His Own"...... this title makes no grammatical sense to me... a little help?
Bruham Says:
Sherdog has a nice article up comparing GSP and Lesnar, but be warned it's over a paragraph long, and I know that will be a tough read for some.
I agree with the train of thought that at the end of the day Lesnar's actions, and Henderson's (Don't try to fucking gloss over something like "Normally I wouldn't do that but, I just wanted to shut him up", because that shit just screams sportsmanship right?), will have little to no impact on the sport and its continued growth.
I think for me, I would much rather have a fighter give a couple interviews here and there and speak his mind, than I would have a fighter give the same canned answers to 400 media outlets.
Obviously there is a difference between speaking your mind with tact and not, but I find it hard to stomach the overly rehearsed and "PC" comments to media outlets, and that's for all sports not just MMA.
Chri534. Says:
edit delete repost
Homoplata Says:
did Brock didn't HA
Raju-Erkki Says:
Lesnar ass-rapes all of your "true martial artists". How does that make you feel? Bullies all over your fine fag techniques.
Chri534. Says:
Nice article. I still found the getting on his wife comment amusing. She was actually in the octagon while he said this and I'm pretty sure I saw her actually find humor in the comment as well. But yeah, the rest was inappropriate and I think he'll be learning how to act in the future (although I wouldn't be surprised if I found myself trying to speculate the same way for his next few fights, I mean, he can't be THAT dumb can he...).
NECROPHYTE Says:
lmao
Lizard, it's a type-o. Chill, I'm sure the Bens will fix it soon.
Pajamashark Says:
Who cares if Brock acted like a total psycho after the bout?
Isn't the reason we all love/love to hate him because he's a giant carcass of id and poor impulse control who is only allowed out to play because he has some truly gifted athletic skills? FFS the man trains and lives in the same building, in a tiny town with his family. He relaxes by going ice fishing and hunting. If he were any sort of appealing we'd all be praising his spartan work ethic and pure limelight shunning motives.
You really think someone like that knows how to behave in public? Who cares? Sorry he beat all your heroes, and sorry he's here to stay for a bit while you gnash your teeth in fanboi frustration, but this is UFC not high tea with the queen. If you need manners so much maybe you should go watch fencing?
Joedirt Says:
Brock 69s himself.....
He is just such a douchebag.
Biffmiester Says:
Enough with the yip-yap about tryin to compare Hendo's actions to Lesnar's... Hendo didn't go about flippin the fans and bein' an ass to the sponsors after he knocked Bisping. You people gotta realize that it's the referee's job to stop the fight... I didn't see this kinda bs arguments when Rampage knocked Wandy on his ass and kept wailin' off. Brock whooped that ass, yes, but he was bein' a cock for not checkin' his emotions. That's y Dana got on his ass afterward.
(Lizardking, good eye on the grammar...or lack of)
HAL_13 Says:
I JUST FUCKING LOVE THE GUY. EVERYONE SEEMS TO HATE HIM NOW BECAUSE OF HIS ACTIONS AFTER THE FIGHT. YOU PEOPLE ARE REALLY GOING TO HATE HIM WHEN HE CONTINUES TO KICK EVERYONE ELSE'S ASS, AND YES I MEAN EVERYONE. MACHIDA HAS THE LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION COVERED, AND BROCK HAS THE HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION COVERED. YOU SHOULD'NT WORRY TO MUCH ABOUT LESNARS ACTION AFTER A FIGHT, ITS HIS ACTION DURING A FIGHT THAT YOU FUCKS SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT BECAUSE THE BIG SON OF A BITCH IS GOING TO KEEP CLEANING HOUSE FOR A LONG TIME TO COME.
Fight Fan Says:
All this back and forth by people with no influence discusssing whether the UFC or MMA needs to be somewhat classy is useless.
Dana tore him a new one and told him to smarten up, so where does that leave those of you talikng about fencing or tea with the Queen? People with jobs and families buy PPV's, not adolescent kids like the majority of people posting on this site who catch the freebie the next day.
HAL_13 Says:
GOOG. THATS A GREAT PICTURE OF YOU MY MAN. LOOKS JUST FUCKING LIKE YOU. DAMN THATS SCARY.
Jay K. Says:
Personally I found the most insight into the pile of compulsion and aggression that make up the Lesnar psyche was the comment about how he would go home to have a Coors Light since "...Bud Light isn't paying [him] anything."
To me, having someone win the undisputed heavyweight title and then make mention of sponsor ship money in the post fight interview shows that he's really in this for personal gains and never will be interested in representing the sport as a whole. Or for that matter representing any sort of sportsmanship or humility.
Lesnar is after the biggest slice of the pie that he can get his XXXL mitts on, part of doing that means that he has to be in the biggest fights for the biggest rewards. Being the champ is a great bonus to that but not necessarily the driving motivation behind his career, so I don't see him ever having thoughts cross his mind about being a true champion.
rokabee Says:
"When Terrell Owens or Manny Ramirez does something to remind us how selfish and emotionally crippled he is, we’re not so quick to accuse him of hurting his entire sport."
That was the perfect analogy. Lesnar is just a tool in the box of MMA.
@ Chri534
Lol, I bet she was doing one of those fake giggle laffs to hide here real emotions. I wonder what she felt like when her husband was running around making the biggest fool of himself...there was nothing else to do but give it a hearty lil chuckle for her, and then she said in her mind "Am I really married to this guy?"
Fight Fan Says:
Dana to Lesnar:
Lesnar or Bud Light...Who ya got?
Titos Head Says:
ah who cares...Fedor is gonna pop his big ass head off his neck anyway
shartacus Says:
Regardless of whether Brock's good for the sport or not, he's a huge ppv draw and his star power just got bigger. People will tune in just to see what his next stunt is going to be by gauging some of that responses I've heard so far from a few relatively new fans of the sport. Dana may have acted pissed off, but he's happier than hell right now
sithlord79 Says:
Brock did little damage to mma but please Dana put Shane Carwin in the cage against Brock so Shane can shut up Brock for good.
Bruham Says:
@Biffmiester
The difference between a guy waiting for the ref to stop him and what Hendo did was that Hendo himself said he knew Bisping was out, and wanted to get one more in.
THAT'S the difference between say a guy pounding away on someone until a referee stops it. There have been a number of fighters that have stopped the offensive assault after landing the haymaker, because they KNEW. They didn't wait for the referee, they simply walked away.
Henderson knew better, and it's people like you who are try to gloss the shit over simply because the guy is a good dude that make me laugh. As far as Lesnar's shit, this article has it right his words hurt nobody but himself, his image, but Henderson's words showed the potential a fighter has to cross that ethical line in the octagon.
Now, had Lesnar sat on top of Mir and continued to pound on him after Herb Dean tried to stop the fight, then Lesnar would have done some damage to the sport, but he didn't.
There is a huge difference between ruining your image, and creating an opening who say the sport is senseless violence. None of what Brock did was senseless violence, it was just nonsense. What Hendo did was senseless violence. But hey, I am sure you'll just gloss over it like he never stated his intentions at all
Cuntalope Says:
Brock is awesome for the sport. He's got all your moral fags eating out the palm of his hand. Not only that but he's making millions of dollars and being the greatest heaveweight the world has ever seen. So fuck you basement dwellers who like to talk shit you are nothing, always will be nothing. Stop hating on someone better than you and just embrace the fact that they're better and always will be. You people make me sick.
parchy mcthirst Says:
whats up with all this bullshit about hendo's second shot at bisping's face when he was on the ground? so many fighters hit their opponents when they're unconscious (i.e. rampage jackson vs wanderlei silva iii). if people are going to complain, bicker, and resent such an act, then display some equality. hendo's not the first fighter to do that, and he won't be the last. don't bitch about hendo's extra hit if you don't bitch about every other fighter who does that
Fight Fan Says:
This will always be the story on CP whenever Lesnar is mentioned, but mainstream sports won't give a shit about this in a week.
Tempest in a teacup. He should've stayed pissed at the post-fight. The whole thing is just gay now.
Poopchute Boxing Says:
ya whats more dangerous, the Stockton Heybuddy or an intentional "hard" shot to the head after you knew you knocked the fucker out? You crybabies need to worry about Hendo and his "shut up technique" more than a middle finger and a little shit talk. Its stupid shit like that that gets the "Human Cock-fighting" votes in your government.
shartacus Says:
Personally, I loved seeing Hendo kiss his fist before driving it into Bisping's unconscious face. Unsportsmanlike? Yes. Deserved? Also yes. Fuck Bisping.
everydayenemy Says:
FAGOR ISN'T GOING TO DO SHIT!
Miles Says:
Yeah F Brock. The guy is a prick, and I am willing to bet the winner of Carwin/Velasquez will take his dumb ass out. He is winning on size.
As far as the Hendo thing goes, I don't think its a big deal. I'm sure if Bisping didn't act like an asshole during TUF his emotions wouldn't have taken over like that, but he did and that's what happens. Karma punched Bisping in the face the second time, lol
shartacus Says:
Brock will roll right over Cain. I think Carwin's got a legitimate shot though.
831 Son Says:
Just like a couple others pointed out. SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HENDO. What the fuck are you guys crying about? It happens all the time where fighters know the other is KO'd then they sock them a couple more times. Its nothing new.
Biffmiester Says:
Dude, Hendo said more than once he knew Bisping was out while he was in the friggin' air and hand ready to land, not after he landed that 1st shot... It's instinct to continue the attack until the ref steps in; that's what fighting is. So, when he realizes that Bisping is out in mid-air, is he gonna just splash him and land his hand on the mat and risk breaking it, or land the finishing blow? And the whole fuckin' sport is violence-based; that's what fighting is once again... nothing is sugar-coated.
Fight Fan Says:
@ Cunt
"...and being the greatest heaveweight the world has ever seen"
LOL, go to bed.
shartacus Says:
I'd boston crab Brock into a living death if he ever insulted Molsen Golden like that.
Fight Fan Says:
Hendo landed just two punches in the space of 2 seconds. No problem there.
His little joke about shutting Bisping up was in poor taste, but that's the only issue here.
john t Says:
I agree with 831 on this one, people throw in that extra punch all the time before the ref comes in and they always do it on purpose, Hendo just admitted to it. Man that Hal guy is so dumb he takes away from how good this site could be. Instead of people speaking intelligently they constantly have to tell that retard to quit talking. Wouldn't be that big of a deal if he knew a thing about the sport but you know he doesn't. I have no clue how he types so much shit when all he ever says is "I'd love to blow Brock lesnar, fuck you i fight, i fight, i'm tough, you guys should know i'm tough, i'm not even witty, i'm tough."
Bruham Says:
In mid air? What interview are you talking about? RIGHT AFTER THE FUCKING FIGHT the dude says "Normally I wouldn't do that, but I wanted to shut him up."
And for the geniuses that say "it happens all the time". I know, and it's bullshit. Rampage's extra 2-3 punches to Silva was ridiculous and pathetic.
Realize that I just recently started posting on this website, as I am sure many have, but don't mistake my calling out Hendo's bullshit as a blind eye to what's happened in the past.
It is people with the mentality of "It's just a few extra shots what's the big deal" that make me question if they want the sport to live a long and happy life. I love MMA, and I enjoy it thoroughly and have the upmost respect for guys who step in to fight. That being said I want the sport to make that transition to mainstream and provide those very same brave men/women the chance to make good money for the entertainment they provide. The big money won't happen without the mainstream public. There will always be those select few that make good money, but the majority of fighters aren't making shit for the risks they take.
Every time some guy throws an extra shot in to "shut him up" it provides critics an opportunity to keep it from the mainstream.
Get out of your own fucking heads and realize that new and old fans alike will want this sport to live on, and you can't have it with dumbfuck decisions like late shots when you admit that you know the guy is out.
I find it equally funny for as much talk as there is about being on Lesnar's dick, there are an equal bunch just watering at the mouth for a taste of Hendo's crank.
HendoSpecial Says:
Lesnar didn't embarrass himself at all. He doesn't give a rats ass. At least he's a straight-shooter with the balls to say and do what he thinks. All these 'grudge matches' that end with a handshake- that's bullshit. Lesnar and Mir are still going to talk shit about each other, so why try to cover it up? All these people like Nick and Nate Diaz, even tho they're huge assholes. Henderson, as much as he is seen as a 'class act,' admitted he knew Bisping was out when he threw that last shot. That's no big deal, but as soon as someone talks shit after a win- Oh shit! What an embarrassment! Cole Miller did the exact same thing to Junie Browning, and nobody said anything.
Seems to be a double standard here. CP needs to get off the rag too. Seriously.
shartacus Says:
I'd like to go on the record as well by saying that if that son of a bitch ever impugns Guiness, Becks, Murphy's, or Blue Moon, I will steam roll his big ass into an early retirement.
Pajamashark Says:
Not just families, my man, but if Dana wants to continue to grow the sport he'd be stupid not to cater to every advertiser's wet-dream demographic: young single males with disposable income. Between UFC, Affliction, and other PPV events my MMA bill has been larger then my electricity one.
I also think BudLight is a savvy enough marketer not to be bothered so much with Brock's disdain about not getting paid. They got named checked in the main event winner's speech- not just live but then replayed over again a million times later for free, as you pointed out it will be. GSP was a perfect gentlemen- no one is going to search YouTube for his well behaved post fight comments.
Anheuser Busch should buy Brock a new truck for lending their product the kind of viral marketing they would gladly pay out the nose for had someone else figured out a way to work giving the finger, fucking a women, and BudLight into one clip. BudLight is a lot of things (shitty, cheap, kind of delicious) but badass is not one of them. As you know, this will play great with the kids who are only now embarking on their underage binge drinking adventures.
Poopchute Boxing Says:
@831 Son
ya they also dont admit that in post fight that he fuckin deserved it either like he did. He might as well of poked his fuckin eye out.
Biffmiester Says:
Dude, watch his interview on MMALive on espn after UFC 100... it was reactionary as true fighters' actions are.
Dante Says:
Brock can say and do whatever he wants. Bottom line.
Lesnar > Diaz
Me Says:
At first I thought what Hendo did was fine also, but after watching the gif on fightlinker, you clearly see him kiss his trusty right hand before marching over and jumping on Bisping in an attempt to behead the now undead brit.
Had he not thanked the gods for blessing ole faithful, I would have no issue with it.
Bruham Says:
Okay, so if you are going to give credit to Hendo's MMA Live interview as being the real case, rather than what he said RIGHT AFTER THE FIGHT, then you have to apply that same logic to Lesnar and say he didn't mean what he said at all.
It's the same fucking thing. Lesnar said what was on his mind, got pulled aside and turned around and tried to do damage control with the media in the post fight interviews.
Henderson did the same. Obviously someone said something to that dude along the lines of "you're going to have to come up with something better than that" and changed his shit around after he was given time to think of a "PC" answer.
You can't take one's post-fight interviews (hours later) as the truth and piss on another after he takes some time to "clarify" his statements.
Biffmiester Says:
Is it so obvious... do you have any proof of that (someone bringin Hendo to the side)? Or is that just suspicion? It was made public about Dana talkin down Brock and his emotions? If Dana or Fertitta made a fuss about Hendo, he wouldnt have wound up with KO of the night, now would he? It wouldve gone to Brock's KO. In fact, Dana didn't mind that finishing blow whatsoever, neither did the fans in the arena or the announcers... seems like the only ones that seem to be makin' a fuss are those who dont like the violence and/or were pulling for Bisping.
Cuntalope Says:
And how did Lesnar damage his image. What to people who already disliked him, wow big deal. He was entertianing and probably won himself some more fans over for being entertaining. The peope who hate him for no reason will always do no matter what he does because they're jealous or something. In fact they'll all probably be buying the next ppv he's on hoping to see him lose (which isn't going to happen) so how is that damaging his own image, making more money and getting more exposure for himself and the ufc. Ridiculous.
831 Son Says:
@ Bruham
Alright dude, you obviously haven't been in a bad blood fight before because you are just talking out of your ass. That shit is fucking instinct to go for the kill. Realize that we are animals basically and most of us have that killer instinct. It happens with alot of fighters because the feeling of knocking someone out is so overwhelmingly badass that the adrenaline/rage kicks in and they go for more shots. Go get in a fight then I might take your statements with credibility. When there is even a slight bit of emotion in a fight, things turn out like that. Oh yea, and you do realize this is UFC and MMA, right? Not a fucking Tae Kwon Do sparring session idiot.
Horror Fighter Says:
"When Terrell Owens or Manny Ramirez does something to remind us how selfish and emotionally crippled he is, we’re not so quick to accuse him of hurting his entire sport."
True, but then again, they play in established sports. Nobody's trying to outlaw or shut out football or baseball.
Every idiot who wants to ban "ultimate fighting" because it's "human cockfighting" now has a poster child in Brock Lesnar. Will it make a difference? Probably not. But it's hard not to resent Brock for turning the UFC's milestone PPV into a step back.
As for Henderson: I really think his post-fight comments were probably a reaction to Rogan's line of questioning, and he may have said what he thought Joe (and the audience) wanted to hear. It's not as though he continued to hit Bisping after Mario jumped in. He did exactly what the rules told him to do: Keep going until the official tells you otherwise.