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CagePotato Power Rankings Updated


(How do you say "Don’t be scared, homey" in Armenian? Photo courtesy of Sherdog.)

Following recent action in the UFC, Strikeforce, and Sengoku, we’ve updated the lightweight, welterweight, light-heavyweight, heavyweight, and pound-for-pound lists in our Power Rankings section. First, a word about the P4P top ten

Can we all agree that Anderson Silva, Fedor Emelianenko, and Georges St. Pierre are the three best fighters in the world right now, and any attempt to rank them is completely subjective, and therefore meaningless? Instead of creating a three-way tie at the top (which I briefly considered), we’re going to do it like this until further notice: Whoever has the most recent awe-inspiring, damn-near-inhuman performance gets to be #1.


Silva was THE MAN earlier this month when he scored a flawless victory over Forrest Griffin at UFC 101; that’s why he holds the top spot for now. (By the way, destroying a top-ten fighter in the division above your natural weight class is the quickest way to rise on the pound-for-pound list.) GSP was The Man when he fought through a jacked-up groin to shut out Thiago Alves in July; that’s why he’s #2. Fedor’s mid-air knockout of Andrei Arlovski happened way back in January; that’s why he’s #3. It has nothing to do with talent or accomplishments, as all three guys have tremendous amounts of each. Can’t wait until Lyoto Machida makes a couple of title defenses so we can include him in this little game too…

Besides the always-in-flux pound-for-pound page, the other drastically changed list is the light-heavyweight top ten, which saw Anderson Silva and Gegard Mousasi enter after their creamings of ranked 205′ers. As a result, Keith Jardine and Thiago Silva have been bumped — but one of them may be back before long.

Anyway, check ‘em out and let us know how you feel. We’ll update the middleweight list after UFC 102, and the featherweight list after DREAM.11, if not sooner.

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Keyser Soze- August 19, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Regarding the top three...

Fedor should be thankful he's even in the top three. Fedor's last six fights... Silvia, Hunt, Coleman, Lindland, Arlovski, and Hong Man Choi. Big f'in deal. Only Arlovski's worth a damn lately... the others are old, washed up, terrible fighters, or all of the above. FWIW, Fedor did lose... to Kohsaka, and there's the no contest vs L'il Nog.

GSP has lost twice. Once was an aberration in the Matrix. A punch to the temple will f*ck anyone up, and Serra finished GSP before he could recoup. The only other loss (to the most dominant WW in UFC history)... well, chalk it up to a rookie mistake (by tapping).

GSP was dominating Hughes that whole first round, and Hughes got lucky. Laying the two successive ass-whoopings on Hughes that followed their first bout should've more than made up for it. Fitch, Koscheck, Alves, Serra, Parisian, BJ Penn twice, Sean Sherk, Frank Trigg... GSP's cleaned out the WW division as decisively as Silva's run through the MW's.

Silva, 10-0 in the UFC in the past three years against top competition, has nothing left to prove. He destroyed the the some of the best MW's in the world, and made it look ridiculously easy. He's moved up to LHW's (against bigger guys) and made very quick work of two so far.

cloiselle and LargeMidget are nothing but geeky fanboys who know nothing of the sport except what they overhear, and regurgitate to make it sound like they have a clue.

Based on rh's logic... Silva would beat Emilianenko. Taller, younger, longer reach, more KO's and less decision victories in a head to head comparison.
spikeacosta- August 19, 2009 at 12:36 pm
i still think urijah faber should be on the list...
LargeMidget- August 19, 2009 at 7:17 am
Fedor makes a habit of beating the living shit out of people that are far bigger than him. Pound for pound, he is the greatest fighter to have ever lived.

GSP has lost twice, and Anderson has lost 4 times. Fedor has lost only once and it wasn't even a loss.

Fedor is the #1 P4P, it's not my oppinion it's a fact, biat
ches.
agentsmith- August 19, 2009 at 6:21 am
@ rh:

The whole "Anderson Silva is heavy for his weight class anyway" argument doesn't hold water for at least two reasons:

1) Everyone cuts weight. EVERYONE.

2) Griffin is on the top end of the LHW class and cuts a good amount of weight to make 205, so Silva was still significantly outweighed.
Jay Smith- August 18, 2009 at 9:17 pm
I agree with the top 3 guys in a 3 way tie (kind of) for the number 1 spot just the way you guys have it.
rh- August 18, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Wait...so you CP guys are all apologetic for ranking Kampmann at WW after just two fights, but you're fine with ranking Sanchez at LW? Really Ben(s)? Is a split decision over the incredibly overrated Guida really worth that much?

...and @ agentsmith: "Defeating (sorry, destroying) a top-10 guy in a weight class above your normal one is exactly what P4P lists/debates are all about." Well, actually, REAL p4p debates are about comparing skillsets, and are often graphically illustrated by overcoming size disadvantages based on skill. And while Silva was certainly lightyears ahead of Griffin in every major skillset, I'm not giving him any credit for fighting above his "normal" weight class, because he cuts so much goddamn weight to make MW that he's employed a size advantage in addition to his skills in every fight he's had. If you're going to really talk p4p, throw weight classes out the window. Discuss size as a matter of frame, height and reach, cageside [or ringside] weight as opposed to weight class.

Anderson is impressive, and he and GSP both have world class skillsets, but they're both "normally" fighting more than a full weight class below what they weigh cageside.

rh

J Akuma- August 18, 2009 at 7:23 pm
@ Nick Bruiser

Because Mousasi is/was an incredibly talented middleweight as well.
Nick Bruiser- August 18, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Such great articles here, and yet consistently bad power rankings. Gegard Mousasi is the #8 p4p fighter in the world and the #8 LHW? How does that work?
Komodo- August 18, 2009 at 5:23 pm
To those who countered cloiselle's post - I salute you.
jonwu- August 18, 2009 at 3:58 pm
@ cloiselle

Weird seeing a person with a Frenchy name showing no love for a French-Canadian.

Your argument against GSP being a top p4p consideration works better as an argument FOR GSP being a top p4p fighter.

Hughes is one of, if not the greatest welterweights in MMA history. GSP beat him by outwrestling him, that's just straight nasty.

And only someone who follows BJ's shitty video blogs would consider the GSP/Penn 2 match controversial.
portland mma- August 18, 2009 at 3:49 pm
I just found it a bit ironic to talk shit about someone's grammar and sound like a 13 year old writing a text message while doing it.
Biffmiester- August 18, 2009 at 3:44 pm
@portland: you* some*

Is that better? I'm just trying to simplify... at least my comment was readable, was it not? Talk about being picky.
NukeBlast- August 18, 2009 at 3:37 pm
@cloiselle

GSP makes guys look terrible.....but they aren't.

He's been the underdog every fight until he won the belt.

Math Hughes was considered the best of all time before being raped by GSP.

You obviously never watched the GSP vs BJ fight #1....It was a 29-28 unanimous decision...one judge was on crack and it was only controversial for BJs mom .

Since when you need to jump weight class to be p4p best ?

Looks like you've been into MMA since UFC 94 or so....

portland mma- August 18, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I agree Velasquez is a beast and could have made the top 10, but Kongo did show a few holes in his game...still looking forward to Cain vs Carwin.

This may be the funniest thing I've read in a while, "stfu u dumbass and learn sum decent grammar."

Its like Butterbean calling someone a fat ass.
NukeBlast- August 18, 2009 at 3:20 pm
I do agree that Silva is now #1

GSP must be #2

I've never agreed with Fedor being on top of the P4P list....he's very good but not as complete as the other guys ( cardio, strength and wrestling wise). I wanna see him against top fighter in a cage, not a ring.

cagefighter- August 18, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I don't get why Velasquez isn't in the top 10...this guy is for real
Biffmiester- August 18, 2009 at 3:08 pm
cloiselle = BJ nuthugger in disguise... stfu u dumbass and learn sum decent grammar. Idiot!

As far as the rankings go, it's fuckin' hilarious that Anderson Silva is #4 in the LHW and #1 in the MW... no argument here, but it's just embarrassing to those natural 205ers. Poor guys, including my boy Ace... suck it Shogun! Good list altogether, good job bens!
portland mma- August 18, 2009 at 2:52 pm
I see what both Bootylam and agent smith are both saying about Bowles, he did beat a staple of the pound for pound rankings in Torres, but its really hard to be ranked in the top 10 pound for pound when you only have like 6 or 7 fights, even when you looked scary good taking out Torres. However, cloiselle I have no clue what the fuck you are talking about in sense of principle or coherent language use.
Bootylam- August 18, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Hey agentsmith have you seen Bowles fight? He's good. What's more solid than whupping someone with near mythic fighting skills early in your career and making it look like your foe had NO chance?
cloiselle- August 18, 2009 at 2:31 pm
you mean that greasing mf'er is really considered one of the top guys ?

my ass.

how about he beats a few guys worthwhile, fitch ( huges twice ) and bj ( twice , both highly controversial ) is all he has for legitimacy in his weight class. not a single weigh class jump or high level fighter has tested gsp.

throw him in his true weight class, keep the vasaline off his ass and lets see what happens.
Bob Reilly- August 18, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Gegard works for M-1, Forget the UFC until he comes out of thier spell.
RJeezy- August 18, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Minowaman for #1 when he beats HMC.

And no love for Hirota, eh? His past 2 wins have been better than Diego's.
agentsmith- August 18, 2009 at 1:33 pm
I don't see how there can be any debate that Silva is the number one P4P fighter. Defeating (sorry, destroying) a top-10 guy in a weight class above your normal one is exactly what P4P lists/debates are all about.

What bugs me are situations like when people automatically put Brian Bowles on their top-10 P4P list simply because he beat Torres... the guy just won the title and hasn't even defended it yet, he has yet to prove how solid he truly is.
Häkkiperuna- August 18, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Can't believe Barnett is still #3
dresdin- August 18, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Gegard is sick but unfortunate has no competition in Strikeforce......... please Dana bring him to UFC he looked straight bored at his fight when he destroyed Babalu
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