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CagePotato PSA: Help ‘Ten Count Bag’ Get Off the Ground, Win the MMA Training Tool of the Future


(Props: Ten Count)

Inspired by that punch-power machine Drago was lighting up in Rocky IV (seriously), Michael Williamson designed the Ten Count Bag to be a cutting-edge training tool for boxers and MMA fighters to analyze their striking power and frequency, and track their improvement. The tricked-out heavy-bag uses a bluetooth connection to transmit information to your computer, tablet, or cell phone, telling you how hard you hit, the average force of your strikes, and how many punches you throw per round, giving you hard data to compare your workouts over time; you can even compare your performance against other users online.

Williamson and his team are producing the Ten Count Bag independently — which ain’t cheap, as he explains in the video above — so he’s looking for some outside help to get his product to market. Here’s the link where you can donate money to his cause or pre-order one of the bags. And here’s what’s in it for you:

- Once the Ten Count Bag has raised $30,000, one CagePotato donor will be randomly selected to receive one of the bags. All you have to do is type the word “CagePotato” in the comments section of the Indiegogo page after you kick in some cash, and you’ll be entered to win.

- Everyone who pre-orders a bag (check out the $299 “Super Early Bird” level) before December 9th will receive a free pair of MMA gloves and a set of handwraps, compliments of CagePotato.

Once the Ten Count Bag hits market, Williamson plans to develop another product that will monitor concussions in combat sports — which could revolutionize training safety in MMA and boxing. (You wouldn’t need to be a Ph.D. candidate to know when to quit fighting, for example.) So give the video a look, donate or order if you can, and help an awesome new training product get off the ground — and possibly into your own home.

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mma4ever- November 27, 2012 at 7:19 pm
Flappy headed Canadian ? Eh?
coldbeer78- November 27, 2012 at 6:03 pm
Wait a damn minute... did anyone else catch his accent in the video? Yeah, a sneaky damn flappy-headed canadian! Might want to reconsider donating money after all, eh?
Joedirt- November 27, 2012 at 5:05 pm
Pen both websites have fraud protection... I can't speak about other ventures that may have been dishonest, it's certainly not any part of my plan. I recommend anyone purchasing anything online uses a credit card with protection or Paypal which has protection.
With that said I'm not trying to appear like a charity. I AM trying to find funding... I AM trying to get a product out there and get as many people to see it as possible. I'm an honest person trying very hard to get started. Charity? No. More like supporting a small corner store over the Walmart. It's not my intention or desire to have money handed to me... I WANT to give products. CagePotato has been gracious enough to help me spread the word so people can make their own decision in supporting me (by purchasing a product) or not. Some people feel better about helping a new upstart instead of a huge faceless company. With that said... anyone who buys a bag won't be sorry. No other bag does this, it will be a great quality bag, bigger and better than our prototype, better software, challenge features etc. If anyone is in my area they are welcome to come try the prototype. I coach 4-6 times a week and it would be great to get some CagePotatoes coming out for a workout!
Pen Fifteen- November 27, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Mike, just because the money doesn't get turned over until the end of the campaign doesn't mean the consumer is guaranteed anything still. I am familiar with the kickstarter model, and there are numerous instances of company's being unable to deliver on the final product despite having received significant sums of seed capital from grassroots investors, and summarily being forced to leave those investors holding the bag.

Again, I think it behooves you to frame this is something other than a "charitable" endeavor, and admit that it is what it is: a way for you to fund a start-up company without the constraints that would be placed on you by seeking funding from a financial institution that would demand both collateral that would put your financial reputation and the line and a well-documented scheme for how you intend to pay back the loan.
Joedirt- November 27, 2012 at 4:27 pm
For the record... the hardest hit the bag has ever taken was from Gilbert Yvel... he kicked it hard enough to flip a over a van!
mma4ever- November 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm
Ur fired.
Joedirt- November 27, 2012 at 3:18 pm
mma4ever... deal... I want a million and I'll be your employee.
mma4ever- November 27, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Ill give u what u want but in return i need 100% of ur company and u become my employee. And..when the royalties start to kick in ill give u 30%..Deal?
Joedirt- November 27, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Alan that's right.. you get something for your money when you buy something, they offer the option of just donating but I don't think anyone takes it, most people take the "perk" which is purchasing something. Indiegogo calls them "perks" and "donations" but ultimately it's a purchase. In cases like this the person isn't getting rich they are basically covering the start up costs.
Pen Fifteen... there is no risk for the person purchasing... if you look you will see the money doesn't get turned over from the website until the end of the campaign. The transactions only go through if enough is raised to provide the products. Ultimately credit card companies and paypal also protect in the case of fraud. When we first set up the campaign we set the amount high because all of our costs were not returned yet. We don't need to raise as much as posted but of course we are aiming high! Hopefully some investors (on top of sales) will be interested in helping out as well. Pen you should take 10 minutes to check out indiegogo and/or kickstarter... both are good sites. You'll see how they work and you'll see some cool new products that people are working on. It's nice to see people succeed even when they aren't backed by big money or businesses. My biggest challenge is getting enough people to see it... CagePotato has been awesome to help me get the word out there.
Pen Fifteen- November 27, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Mike, I get your point, but it behooves you to acknowledge that, while a system like this does allow you to circumvent lending barriers that discriminate against small businesses, it also comes with implicit risk for the donor/"prepurchaser". People who prepurchase things from you are not guaranteed anything, the way an investor with a structured legal relationship would be. I'm sure you're an honest guy who is acting in good faith, but in the end, you stand to benefit from this far more than any of your prospective customers if your business is successful.
Alan K- November 27, 2012 at 2:48 pm
But you're only guaranteed to get something for your money if you buy one of these things.
Joedirt- November 27, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Hi everyone (this is Mike), I've been on this site for quite some time... much like everyone else being smart ass and arguing. Pen Fifteen, nomoremrnicekyle, you're right in that this is not a charity.. but it's also NOT donations or gifts of money. The indiegogo platform (kickstarter is another) is a platform that gives people without big money or company support... a way to try and enter the market. It allows them a means to presell products to raise the money required to go to market. It's a good cause in that you are helping "the little guy" get started but at the same time you get something for your money... it's not a gift. My hopes is to continue with this and make a living involved in the sport that I love.
Pen Fifteen- November 27, 2012 at 1:14 pm
"Donate for a great cause." Are you serious? This isn't the Save Kids with AIDS fund, this is people trying to take a piece of proprietary intellectual property to market for the purpose of making a profit. I love MMA as much as everyone else around here, but let's please keep shit in perspective.
Joedirt- November 27, 2012 at 1:46 pm
It's not really a donation... the indie platform calls all purchases a "donation" even though you get a product for it.
nomomrnicekyle- November 27, 2012 at 1:13 pm
Is this serious? A business is asking for a donation? WTF? Thats called an investment friend, and it needs to come with a return. Why the hell should anyone give money to help someone else MAKE money? If you can't afford to make/market your own product then you've already failed as a business model. Unreal guys, there are actual people out there who need help, not help line someone elses pocket. Classless and an abject failure of a business plan.
Joedirt- November 27, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Check out indiegogo or kickstarter... I know what you're saying. It's the approach they use to raise funds. They aren't donations or gifts... it's just a platform that allows people to raise funds through presales.
MorningwoodII- November 27, 2012 at 1:04 pm
yeah I agree wrong time when a guy is trying to do something good like this. I for sure will be donating.
KarmaAteMyCat- November 27, 2012 at 12:57 pm
No Wood I love a good Jab thats why I responded it was precise and dead on :) This just isn't the place or time now go donate for a great cause.
MorningwoodII- November 27, 2012 at 12:48 pm
I guess it's still too early to throw a technically correct jab at Ol' Karma. The wound is still a bit fresh.
El Guapo- November 27, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Bus ticket? BUS TICKET!! I thought we flew Karma first class? Why I never!
KarmaAteMyCat- November 27, 2012 at 12:24 pm
I dunno Wood the bag handles Michael lets see how well you hold up against Him and his skill set? Dude made a good product, whats the purpose of trolling something productive and someone trying to do something with themselves? You really that bored? we all know your a big bad troll. We get it guy! You feel better now that someones responded to you? Mikes designing amazing training gear that could very well change the way training bags are made in the future. Do you even train? Have you ever fought? Do you know how to throw a proper punch? If you donate and happen to win the bag that Ten Count and Cagepotato are giving away and need help Mike can make you an instructional video on simple techniques and good form. Also don't forget if you happened to donate to me trying out you were fully aware of the details and what may or may not happen. Thanks for playing sorry no second tries on trolling today. Please try back another day.
MorningwoodII- November 27, 2012 at 11:40 am
Do we know if it fulfills the minimum requirements to be accepted to participate in the training? I mean I don't want to buy another bus ticket for someone who can't even get in because they don't meet the minimum requirements.
mma4ever- November 27, 2012 at 11:11 am
Take that shit to the dragons den .
mma4ever- November 27, 2012 at 11:10 am
I wonder if denis hallman is there marketing manager.
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