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Chuck Liddell Isn’t Going to Make This Easy on Us, Is He?


(Props: Fight Magazine)

I blame Brett Favre.  His success with the Minnesota Vikings this year must have every forty-something pro athlete thinking that they still have a few more good years in them.  Maybe some of them do.  But maybe some of them are going to get their brains turned into soup while they find out they’re wrong.

Lately Chuck Liddell is sounding like he won’t be happy until he becomes a cautionary tale.  Coming back to coach "The Ultimate Fighter" opposite Tito Ortiz makes good enough sense, and even the a third fight against The HBBB isn’t such a bad idea.  Liddell’s already beaten Ortiz twice with relative ease, so why not do it once more now that his own reflexes have slowed just enough to make it competitive?  But Liddell doesn’t want to stop there.  As he told the Las Vegas Review-Journal:

"I would like another fight and then I want another fight after," he said. "Hopefully, Dana’s happy with my two wins and I get a shot at a contender and then a shot at a title. That’s four fights and that’s about as far forward as I’ve thought."

No kidding. 


A part of me wants to support Liddell’s push for more fights, if only because the decision about when to retire should, ideally, be his and not Dana White’s.  From where Liddell stands, the calls for him to bow out must seem absurd.  The guy’s on top of the 205-pound heap for years, then he loses one fight to Rashad Evans (who goes on to briefly become the UFC light heavyweight champ) and another to "Shogun" Rua (who goes on to fight for/very nearly win the belt) and he’s supposed to call it quits, just because he’s not the absolute best anymore? 

Yes.  That’s exactly what he should do.  Because this is a business where you can get very badly hurt, no matter how much you still love being in there, and because Liddell is the rare fighter who has other options.  Even if he needed the money, and he probably doesn’t, he has other ways to make it.

Randy Couture is probably more to blame than Brett Favre for Liddell’s refusal to give it up.  He’s still plugging away, and looking pretty good for his age.  But Liddell isn’t Couture.  He hasn’t taken the same immaculate care with his body that Couture has, and his style is far less conducive to aging and slowing down.  If he does keep at it past the fight with Ortiz, and if he ends up facing the younger crop of up-and-coming light heavyweights, he’s probably going to get this lesson hammered into his skull. 

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Havokgamer- January 27, 2010 at 5:05 pm
CHUCK VS KIMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahaha
FowlBeast- January 27, 2010 at 5:18 am
Ha Ha Ha!! that's funny. The hole in the Parliment is there so when the hipsters' are done fuckin' their buddie's loose anus they can get off and snowball their selves.
munche- January 26, 2010 at 11:31 pm
I think people got a little confused by seeing Chuck dominate for so many years....the fact is, the guy has a total of 6 TKO losses in his whole career. I bet money you can find several active fighters, even on the UFC roster, who have been KOed more than that. The idea that he's suddenly gonna turn into Ali is freaking ridiculous.

That said, I do think he's lost the edge the compete at the top level. After he beats Ortiz, I don't know who's a good next fight.
mma samurai- January 26, 2010 at 9:20 pm
I think they were a little behind on their projection of when Chuck basically stopped being Chuck. It seems to me ever since Rampage knocked him out and took his belt he hasn't been the same. Since then he's lost to Rua, Evans and won a less than technical but very entertaining brawl with Wanderlei (I think I covered all his fights sorry if I missed any). It seems like he losted his edge after that fight and just hasn't been able to get back that "edge". That on top of the fact that lets face it, Chuck has been a one trick pony for quite some time now. We all know he's going for his Nolan Ryanesque looping overhand right knock out punch. That's all Chuck has really going for him and everyone figured that out a long time ago. I liked watching Chuck fight when he was still competative but now it's just sad watching him decline farther and farther from his former self. He could always go up to heavyweight and see who's got more of a glass jaw these days him or Alovski.
UFC fan- January 26, 2010 at 8:59 pm

DazedNConfused Says:
Tue, 01/26/2010 - 13:54

Fuck it, ill watch Chuck get his face shoveled in some more. Buddy doesnt know when to throw in the towel and be remembered as a real hall of famer, not some guy who wouldnt quit and left on a 5+ fight loss streak



Big Jumpin Dad Says:
Tue, 01/26/2010 - 19:04

Fuck it, ill watch Chuck get his face shoveled in some more. Buddy doesnt know when to throw in the towel and be remembered as a real hall of famer, not some guy who wouldnt quit and left on a 5+ fight losing streak
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UFC fan- January 26, 2010 at 8:48 pm
"Big Jumpin Dad Says:
Tue, 01/26/2010 - 13:04

Id love to see something get hammered into chuck, but the last place i was thinking was his skull if you catch my drift;)"

....pause.
yeah we catch your drift....fag.
ReX13- January 26, 2010 at 7:32 pm
@ Lysol

First off, i don't think that means what you think it means. **HINT** look up "strawman fallacy".

Secondly, yeah, there ARE people hating on Chuck here. If you dislike him, fine, but it seems to me that people express disdain for popular fighters simply because they are popular. Which is kind of like not dating a chick because she doesn't have tonsils.

Lastly, if you ever attempt to wax didactic with me again, i'll burn your fucking house down, you slack jawed cuntwaffle. People don't seem to remember that i'm a goddamn (sexual) Tyrannosaurus.
Big Jumpin Dad- January 26, 2010 at 7:06 pm
I blame Brett Favre. His success with the Minnesota Vikings this year must have every forty-something pro athlete thinking that they still have a few more good years in them. Maybe some of them do. But maybe some of them are going to get their brains turned into soup while they find out they're wrong.
Big Jumpin Dad- January 26, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Fuck it, ill watch Chuck get his face shoveled in some more. Buddy doesnt know when to throw in the towel and be remembered as a real hall of famer, not some guy who wouldnt quit and left on a 5+ fight losing streak

nicey- January 26, 2010 at 3:15 pm
the 2 posters above me, their mindset is exactly why some states do not want to allow MMA.
just some dong- January 26, 2010 at 3:00 pm
This sport is all about entertainment, and brutal KOs are about as entertaining as it gets. Chuck has always been on the giving or receiving end of those - that's why he puts meat in the seats. He's obviously still got the fire in his (ample) belly, so let him soldier on. If he suffers permanent damage, then he simply becomes a cautionary tale for MMA like Ali is with boxing. The only person that sucks for is Chuck, and it's his call.

NateGetsIrate- January 26, 2010 at 2:36 pm
What the fuck is everyone pissing their panties about here? Chuck is a fighter. This is what fighter's do. Permanent injuries are worth taking the chance to these guys as long as they can legally punch someone in the face. And you will all watch him "JUST BLEED".
Lysol- January 26, 2010 at 2:21 pm
@ Rex13

First off, nice strawman. **HINT** look up "strawman fallacy"

Second, no one is hating on Liddell here. He was one of my favorite fighters, but let's face it, he's no longer a contender. He's taken some downright nasty blows in his past few efforts, and I think he should retire before he gets seriously hurt.
DazedNConfused- January 26, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Fuck it, ill watch Chuck get his face shoveled in some more. Buddy doesnt know when to throw in the towel and be remembered as a real hall of famer, not some guy who wouldnt quit and left on a 5+ fight losing streak
DazedNConfused- January 26, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Fuck it, ill watch Chuck get his face shoveled in some more. Buddy doesnt know when to throw in the towel and be remembered as a real hall of famer, not some guy who wouldnt quit and left on a 5+ fight loss streak
El Guapo- January 26, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Chuck vs Don Zimmer??

Liddell needs to (Arnold Schwarzenegger Mr Freeze voice) "Chill out." Get it? Cause he's called the Icema... Ahhh, nevermind.
parchy mcthirst- January 26, 2010 at 1:42 pm
chuck should hang up the mma gloves. if he doesn't, it will only tarnish his legendary career and status as one of the greats. i'm not even really a fan of his, but the sport doesn't need another ken shamrock. take the hall of fame route chuck, and stay that way
TheFactor- January 26, 2010 at 1:39 pm

@MKO ... that is a good point .. Dana maybe a friend in the end ... keeping Chuck close and hand picking opponents ... Otherwise we might see a devastating situation like Fedor VS Chuch in the future .. keep him on lock down .. keep him happy ... keep relatively safe.

Good point.
MKO- January 26, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Damn, still, after the Rashad KO, I don't think I would license Chuck to drive a car much less fight. He was a shell of his old self in the Rua fight. Say what you want, but I honestly think Dana White does have Chuck's best interest in mind. You can't force a guy to retire, and it would be stupid to let him leave and go make money for Strikeforce. As a TUF coach, he keeps him out for another 6 months and gives him a fight with a relatively light puncher.
Dr Garbo- January 26, 2010 at 1:33 pm
I would take Chuck over some dude in the Cracker Barrel parking lot for the rest of his life
TheFactor- January 26, 2010 at 1:32 pm

PLease don't get me wrong .. Ali is still a hero today .. it is just unfortunate that most medical professionals agree .. he should have stopped earlier .. Ali is the man no doubt, I just don't want to see the same thing happen to Chuck.

BackbaconBilly- January 26, 2010 at 1:30 pm
We've seen this arguement before with Chuck he just doesn't think rationally, if he is so determined to fight then let him get his ass kicked. Let him go out with a bang, set him up against Machida, or Silva, shit maybe he could gain some weight and fight Brock when he comes back...

There is no interest in seeing him either hand pick fights ( like Matt Hughes wants to do ) or in seeing him fight cans which is what Dana will probably do to protect him.
cecils_pupils- January 26, 2010 at 1:28 pm
The Factor is right on... what MMA does not need is an example of a guy who shoulda quit while he could still form complete sentences.
Big Jumpin Dad- January 26, 2010 at 1:27 pm
@TheFactor

Ali wouldnt be the same hero he is today were he to quit a few fights earlier. Sure he maybe wouldnt have as bad of a speech impedement, and wouldnt be border line mentally retarded, but at what cost? His legacy? Our entertainment? Shame on you
TheFactor- January 26, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Chuck would have trouble handling Gabe Ruediger these days.

Sad.
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