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Coker: Fedor vs. Werdum Is on for June

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Fabricio Werdum
 
During a press conference following DREAM 13, Scott Coker told reporters that Fedor Emelianenko would finally make his Strikeforce return this summer, seven months after his second-round knockout of Brett Rogers

"M-1 Global and Strikeforce entered into a three fight contract exclusive for Fedor to fight in a co-promotion between Strikeforce and M-1 Global, and as you know we did the first fight on November 7 in Chicago. Fedor is now scheduled to fight in June towards the end of the month in America against Fabricio Werdum."

Better than nothing, I guess — although it’s still ridiculous that Fedor is fighting another contender, while Strikeforce champion Alistair Overeem is booked for a non-title exhibition against Brett Rogers in May. No other matches have been announced for Strikeforce’s June card yet.

The relationship between Strikeforce and M-1 Global appeared strained in recent weeks, with reports of renegotiations making the rounds. But although the dispute may sound like a money grab, M-1 says that what they’re really after is greater brand visibility. From a report by Dave Meltzer on Yahoo!:

[M-1 Global director of operations Evgeni] Kogan allowed that M-1 Global was disappointed in what happened with the promotion of the last fight, but was quick to say the problem wasn’t with Strikeforce. He said he was disappointed in media coverage of the event because the M-1 Global name in stories on the show wasn’t featured more visibly.
 
“The way the show was promoted, that was an issue to us, but we don’t have an issue with Strikeforce over it,” Kogan said. “M-1 isn’t a management company for Fedor Emelianenko. We are a fight promotion. We have done matches all over the world, U.S., Asia, Europe, Japan. But the media didn’t feature the M-1 name [in coverage of the November show]. Specifically, it wasn’t Strikeforce’s fault. They honored their agreement. The way the media perceived the event was it was Strikeforce. M-1 wasn’t promoted that much. That was an issue with us.”
 
CBS promoted the November show more as “CBS Saturday Night Fights” as opposed to promoting the Strikeforce or M-1 Global brand names. “For us, this is a really big deal,” Kogan said. “We’re concerned about our brand. For us, it’s an important piece of the big picture.”

Well, you can’t force the media to care about M-1 Global, especially when they don’t seem to do anything besides collect money and make things difficult for Scott Coker. If Strikeforce has promised M-1 more attention in their broadcasts, then that’s the price of doing business. But M-1 is going to be disappointed if they think they’re going to gain any brand traction in this country apart from their relationship with Fedor.

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lakisha2011- January 4, 2012 at 9:44 am
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bcochran- March 24, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Werdum takes it.
2phresh- March 24, 2010 at 7:15 pm
does it really matter, both are bound to be bankrupt in the near future anyway
fatbellyfrank- March 24, 2010 at 6:53 pm
@rex13, bet you weren't expecting to hook a fish like that on your first cast! sorry Gregm but LMFAO, rex13 is a regular visitor to this site, and yes, he knows his shit
LET IT RAIN- March 24, 2010 at 3:19 pm
@ Robthom

was getting at what you stated. A kick in the ass from fans might be what he needs to hear.
robthom- March 24, 2010 at 3:14 pm
But god bless AA if he proves me wrong!

(I've miscalculated many times before)
robthom- March 24, 2010 at 3:07 pm
"Someone needs to start a Fedor is washed up website. "

Fedor is not washed up yet. But a little pressure WOULD probably be helpful.

"...can't you just let AA have his Werdum victory?"

My bad.
That win IS a WIN! And a good one IMO.
And I've always considered AA the homie.
I just dont think he's got any upside anymore. He's topped out.

I think Werdum still has some more gas in the tank. So I'm switching hopes.
:)
ghostboner- March 24, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Rex that first post was classic. Can't believe some clown actually bit on that. I guess those people really do exist. Must be how used cars get sold.

Damn you robthom, can't you just let AA have his Werdum victory? I predict that Arlovski will beat the shit out of Bigfoot, then beat the shit out of Rogers, then beat the shit out of Fedor like he should have done the first time.
I know this sounds unreasonable, but I had been crying for an Arlovski-Fedor match for years, so when it finally happened and I had to watch Arlovski do his best dead octopus impression it really ruined my ability to hug his nuts. The hope of a victorious rematch is what gets me through the days. Well, that, and the phen-phen-vicodin-jack daniel's cocktails that I take with my subway for lunch.
jimbonics- March 24, 2010 at 1:59 pm
I predict Fedor parts ways with M-1 after his last two fights.

At least he fucking better.
LET IT RAIN- March 24, 2010 at 1:39 pm
M-1 is a joke. Fedor needs to realize this before he loses his fan base and fades away into retirement. You can't claim your fighter to be the best if he ain't fighting them. Someone needs to start a Fedor is washed up website. It might help to put it in his face and get the point across if the fans express being fed up with his lack of fighting quality fighters.

With that being said, i think Fedor would get whooped by the UFC HW elite: Lesnar, Carwin, Mir, Velasquez and Dos Santos. Well ok, maybe not Carwin.
Flatt2u- March 24, 2010 at 12:18 pm
I am so very discouraged with the idea of Fedor/Overeem taking place in Dream.

Overeem is in the same boat at Barnett: If their fights are not sanctioned by an athletic commision enforcing a reasonable PED-testing policy, then I consider those fights to be exhibitions and irrelevant.
robthom- March 24, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Well thats a good thing.

This will be the more impressive IMO than Fed stealing on supergoof (he'll always go down if you tag him clean, although usually not out) and glass joe (always goes clean out).

I know glass joe got passed werdum, but that was werdums first fight in the UFC and he only dec'd him.

I think werdum will beat AA in the rematch.
ReX13- March 24, 2010 at 11:57 am
justscrappin>>yeah, i said it...but they ain't sending me my ultimate fighter dressup kit and i am bummed out.
justscrappin- March 24, 2010 at 11:38 am
First off...if Rex is the dude who said he would put all the mma warehouse winnings on at the same time and go to the bank and sign something with a "over-hand stabby grip" bro you made me piss..if I'm giving props to the wrong guy please correct me.
As far as the Fedor situation....he has been living off his name and pride legacy. Fighting enormous guys..who the general public thinks are the best...so it looks impressive. I'm not saying he can't beat the best in the UFC...but it's becoming less and less likely with the level rising between the best HW in the UFC...and The guys he is fighting.
For those of us that have been MMA fans since the Pride days...we know that Fedor has the ability...and originally the UFC HW div was a joke. I almost had to do a double take though in the last 2 years as Lesnar, Carwin, Mir, Velasquez and Dos Santos came out of nowhere...and showed high level technique...but are massive guys. These guys actually have the speed...size and technique to challenge or beat Fedor..but as long as a fledgling company competing against the UFC has the money to sign him as their flagship fighter...to pay him and give him the freedom he wants...he doesnt have to fight for the UFC until he feels he wants to cement his legacy. With the true MMA fans anyway.
KingZipperhed- March 24, 2010 at 11:31 am
Anybody know if this Brock guy is any good? I don't think he's ever had a Strikeforce fight.
ReX13- March 24, 2010 at 11:07 am
GetOffMe>> Yeah, i know, we like to chew this particular cud often.

Jimbo>> i agree, no way in hell Dana budges on co-promotion. He agreed to a laundry list of considerations last time, including sambo tournaments, other Red Devil fighters, and M-1 slapping their logo pretty much anywhere. If they wanted merely to get their name out there, that should have sufficed. We all agree: it's a cash grab, and an obvious one at that. I still want to see Fedor against the best of the UFC, i'm just not very optimistic anymore. The best hope we have is that Fedor starts to care about his legacy in the sport and seeks out the competition in the UFC.

I am also looking forward to seeing Aoki in the US, but it seems like the more i see of Fancypants' previous fights, the more i dislike him.
KidDinomite- March 24, 2010 at 10:52 am
The reason the Overeem/Rogers match is a non-title fight is because Rogers lost to Fedor in his last outing. It would seem nonsensical to put the title on the line for someone who lost to probably the #1 contender for the belt. I think the reason Strikeforce is even putting this match together is that there's bad blood between Rogers and Overeem. Of course Overeem is gonna destroy The Grimm so it really doesn't matter much. I do predict we'll see a highlight KO of Rogers though. You don't fight guys like Badr Hari and not get some some KOs.

As for Fedor/Verdum, we all know Fedor will win this match within the first 2 rounds. Verdum is a good fighter but he looks sloppy, especially in his match with Antonio Silva. His kicks were telegraphed and they both looked like they hadn't trained for the fight that much. I'm not expecting much from this fight at all.

The fight I'm looking forward to is Aoki/Melendez. That should be an awesome fight, though hopefully we won't see too much leg-humping a la Jake Shields/Henderson.
cecils_pupils- March 24, 2010 at 10:38 am
Yep - my fault for stirring the pot with the dreaded co-promotion issue.... yikes!

Viva Hate, Rm, jimbonics,... You all make great point/counter points... and I agree with all of them: cash grab for M-1, Fedor is surely hurting his legacy , and, yes, M-1 would have UFC by the cookies if Fedor took the title.

GotOffMe makes a great point that co-promotion is a win/win for everyone...especially fans (IMO) and I agree completely (nice Winstrol Top 5, BTW). But ReX13 also indicates, as I agree, that I don't think Dana worries about this since he does not think Fedor will win the title.

And jimbonics makes a great point that if Fedor wins the title it totally fucks-up UFC's ability to cut him... definitely a risk, but one that I think UFC will come out on top of.

With all the risks, money grabbing and all other bullshit included - it still makes sense to bring Fedor in after he's finished with his 3-fight deal with Strikeforce. I say let the chips fall where the may and let the fans see what Fedor is really made of.
jimbonics- March 24, 2010 at 10:37 am
Rex, Dana doesn't worry about it because there's no way in hell he'll co-promote.

Dana believes a lot of things that don't always come to fruition.

I'll say this. If Fedors third and final fight of his Strikeforce contract is indeed against Overeem and Fedor wins, Strikeforce is fucked in terms of M-1 negotiations. I have to think this went through Dana's mind when he was talking with M-1 after the Affliction debacle.
LockDown- March 24, 2010 at 10:32 am
I see this fight going pretty much like Fedor X Minotauro.
Werdum will not rely in his mediocre striking anymor and will pull guard all the night long.
In the other side, Fedor will accept his game and will pummel him from above, givin a Red Army Ground And Pound and earning an "easy" UD.
ReX13- March 24, 2010 at 10:17 am
Viva Hate hits it dead on, IMHO.

I don't think that there's much else for Dana to compromise on, except the co-promotion issue. I believe that he really has tried hard to get Fedor into the UFC.

"Fedor needs to realize he is actually hurting his legacy in the end by fighting mid-level talent like Werdum instead of taking on top challengers." Exactly, and i think this is really the only legit hope we have of seeing Fedor in the Octagon.

***

jimbonics Says:

"What if Fedor holds the title after his contract? M-1 would have the UFC by the cookies."

I don't think Dana worries about this-- i think he really believes that Fedor would not be able to claim the title. He might even be right--especially with the new talent at heavyweight.
Get Off Me- March 24, 2010 at 10:12 am
The good old co-promote discussion......again.
It's a win win to do this, M-1 gets the cash grab they are out for, UFC gets the dream match, worldwide audience and probably ppv buys(even after split with M-1) that they have yet to acheive(I would put it at about close to 3 million buys for Lesnar v. Fedor main event). Moreover, if Lesnar smashes Fedor(because Fedor is not gettin' any younger) UFC can cut ties with M-1 immeadiately after the fight if they like, if the opposite happens, UFC can wait for the numbers to come in and say to themselves, wow that was a big payday for us, let's do it again.

@Viva Hate
Fedor has hurt his legacy a little bit(in his prime he fought the best though), but definitely not his wallet by going with M-1.
@rM
2. Agreed
1. Having Fedor and Mousasi fight in North America was not dumb, M-1 partnership allowed this to happen. If the UFC does an event with M-1 and you get to see Fedor v. Brock or something like that, both of us would probably be happy.
@ReX13
Overeem is at the top of the Winstrol MMA rankings:
1.Alistair Overeem
2.Josh Barnett
3.Antonio Silva
4.Shawn Sherk
5.Chris Leben
etc...


One Two- March 24, 2010 at 10:09 am
Hell yeah!!! I'm thinking Fedor by murderball, dos santos style, or vicious ground and pound. Werdum probabally has the best or second best (nog) Jiu Jitsu in the HW division so it could be dangerous but i think Fedor gots this.
jimbonics- March 24, 2010 at 10:05 am
Cecil.

What if Fedor holds the title after his contract? M-1 would have the UFC by the cookies.
rM- March 24, 2010 at 9:42 am
Strikeforce is retarded for 2 reasons in my opinion:

1. They were dumb enough to "partner" with M-1
2. Non-title Exhibition fights...wtf is that about?!!?
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