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Werdum takes it.

does it really matter, both are bound to be bankrupt in the near future anyway

@rex13, bet you weren’t expecting to hook a fish like that on your first cast! sorry Gregm but LMFAO, rex13 is a regular visitor to this site, and yes, he knows his shit

@ Robthom

was getting at what you stated. A kick in the ass from fans might be what he needs to hear.

But god bless AA if he proves me wrong!

(I’ve miscalculated many times before)

“Someone needs to start a Fedor is washed up website. ”

Fedor is not washed up yet. But a little pressure WOULD probably be helpful.

“…can’t you just let AA have his Werdum victory?”

My bad.
That win IS a WIN! And a good one IMO.
And I’ve always considered AA the homie.
I just dont think he’s got any upside anymore. He’s topped out.

I think Werdum still has some more gas in the tank. So I’m switching hopes.

Rex that first post was classic. Can’t believe some clown actually bit on that. I guess those people really do exist. Must be how used cars get sold.

Damn you robthom, can’t you just let AA have his Werdum victory? I predict that Arlovski will beat the shit out of Bigfoot, then beat the shit out of Rogers, then beat the shit out of Fedor like he should have done the first time.
I know this sounds unreasonable, but I had been crying for an Arlovski-Fedor match for years, so when it finally happened and I had to watch Arlovski do his best dead octopus impression it really ruined my ability to hug his nuts. The hope of a victorious rematch is what gets me through the days. Well, that, and the phen-phen-vicodin-jack daniel’s cocktails that I take with my subway for lunch.

I predict Fedor parts ways with M-1 after his last two fights.

At least he fucking better.

M-1 is a joke. Fedor needs to realize this before he loses his fan base and fades away into retirement. You can’t claim your fighter to be the best if he ain’t fighting them. Someone needs to start a Fedor is washed up website. It might help to put it in his face and get the point across if the fans express being fed up with his lack of fighting quality fighters.

With that being said, i think Fedor would get whooped by the UFC HW elite: Lesnar, Carwin, Mir, Velasquez and Dos Santos. Well ok, maybe not Carwin.

I am so very discouraged with the idea of Fedor/Overeem taking place in Dream.

Overeem is in the same boat at Barnett: If their fights are not sanctioned by an athletic commision enforcing a reasonable PED-testing policy, then I consider those fights to be exhibitions and irrelevant.

Well thats a good thing.

This will be the more impressive IMO than Fed stealing on supergoof (he’ll always go down if you tag him clean, although usually not out) and glass joe (always goes clean out).

I know glass joe got passed werdum, but that was werdums first fight in the UFC and he only dec’d him.

I think werdum will beat AA in the rematch.

justscrappin>>yeah, i said it…but they ain’t sending me my ultimate fighter dressup kit and i am bummed out.

First off…if Rex is the dude who said he would put all the mma warehouse winnings on at the same time and go to the bank and sign something with a “over-hand stabby grip” bro you made me piss..if I’m giving props to the wrong guy please correct me.
As far as the Fedor situation….he has been living off his name and pride legacy. Fighting enormous guys..who the general public thinks are the best…so it looks impressive. I’m not saying he can’t beat the best in the UFC…but it’s becoming less and less likely with the level rising between the best HW in the UFC…and The guys he is fighting.
For those of us that have been MMA fans since the Pride days…we know that Fedor has the ability…and originally the UFC HW div was a joke. I almost had to do a double take though in the last 2 years as Lesnar, Carwin, Mir, Velasquez and Dos Santos came out of nowhere…and showed high level technique…but are massive guys. These guys actually have the speed…size and technique to challenge or beat Fedor..but as long as a fledgling company competing against the UFC has the money to sign him as their flagship fighter…to pay him and give him the freedom he wants…he doesnt have to fight for the UFC until he feels he wants to cement his legacy. With the true MMA fans anyway.

Anybody know if this Brock guy is any good? I don’t think he’s ever had a Strikeforce fight.

GetOffMe>> Yeah, i know, we like to chew this particular cud often.

Jimbo>> i agree, no way in hell Dana budges on co-promotion. He agreed to a laundry list of considerations last time, including sambo tournaments, other Red Devil fighters, and M-1 slapping their logo pretty much anywhere. If they wanted merely to get their name out there, that should have sufficed. We all agree: it’s a cash grab, and an obvious one at that. I still want to see Fedor against the best of the UFC, i’m just not very optimistic anymore. The best hope we have is that Fedor starts to care about his legacy in the sport and seeks out the competition in the UFC.

I am also looking forward to seeing Aoki in the US, but it seems like the more i see of Fancypants’ previous fights, the more i dislike him.

The reason the Overeem/Rogers match is a non-title fight is because Rogers lost to Fedor in his last outing. It would seem nonsensical to put the title on the line for someone who lost to probably the #1 contender for the belt. I think the reason Strikeforce is even putting this match together is that there’s bad blood between Rogers and Overeem. Of course Overeem is gonna destroy The Grimm so it really doesn’t matter much. I do predict we’ll see a highlight KO of Rogers though. You don’t fight guys like Badr Hari and not get some some KOs.

As for Fedor/Verdum, we all know Fedor will win this match within the first 2 rounds. Verdum is a good fighter but he looks sloppy, especially in his match with Antonio Silva. His kicks were telegraphed and they both looked like they hadn’t trained for the fight that much. I’m not expecting much from this fight at all.

The fight I’m looking forward to is Aoki/Melendez. That should be an awesome fight, though hopefully we won’t see too much leg-humping a la Jake Shields/Henderson.

Yep – my fault for stirring the pot with the dreaded co-promotion issue…. yikes!

Viva Hate, Rm, jimbonics,… You all make great point/counter points… and I agree with all of them: cash grab for M-1, Fedor is surely hurting his legacy , and, yes, M-1 would have UFC by the cookies if Fedor took the title.

GotOffMe makes a great point that co-promotion is a win/win for everyone…especially fans (IMO) and I agree completely (nice Winstrol Top 5, BTW). But ReX13 also indicates, as I agree, that I don’t think Dana worries about this since he does not think Fedor will win the title.

And jimbonics makes a great point that if Fedor wins the title it totally fucks-up UFC’s ability to cut him… definitely a risk, but one that I think UFC will come out on top of.

With all the risks, money grabbing and all other bullshit included – it still makes sense to bring Fedor in after he’s finished with his 3-fight deal with Strikeforce. I say let the chips fall where the may and let the fans see what Fedor is really made of.

Rex, Dana doesn’t worry about it because there’s no way in hell he’ll co-promote.

Dana believes a lot of things that don’t always come to fruition.

I’ll say this. If Fedors third and final fight of his Strikeforce contract is indeed against Overeem and Fedor wins, Strikeforce is fucked in terms of M-1 negotiations. I have to think this went through Dana’s mind when he was talking with M-1 after the Affliction debacle.

I see this fight going pretty much like Fedor X Minotauro.
Werdum will not rely in his mediocre striking anymor and will pull guard all the night long.
In the other side, Fedor will accept his game and will pummel him from above, givin a Red Army Ground And Pound and earning an “easy” UD.

Viva Hate hits it dead on, IMHO.

I don’t think that there’s much else for Dana to compromise on, except the co-promotion issue. I believe that he really has tried hard to get Fedor into the UFC.

“Fedor needs to realize he is actually hurting his legacy in the end by fighting mid-level talent like Werdum instead of taking on top challengers.” Exactly, and i think this is really the only legit hope we have of seeing Fedor in the Octagon.

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jimbonics Says:

“What if Fedor holds the title after his contract? M-1 would have the UFC by the cookies.”

I don’t think Dana worries about this– i think he really believes that Fedor would not be able to claim the title. He might even be right–especially with the new talent at heavyweight.

The good old co-promote discussion……again.
It’s a win win to do this, M-1 gets the cash grab they are out for, UFC gets the dream match, worldwide audience and probably ppv buys(even after split with M-1) that they have yet to acheive(I would put it at about close to 3 million buys for Lesnar v. Fedor main event). Moreover, if Lesnar smashes Fedor(because Fedor is not gettin’ any younger) UFC can cut ties with M-1 immeadiately after the fight if they like, if the opposite happens, UFC can wait for the numbers to come in and say to themselves, wow that was a big payday for us, let’s do it again.

@Viva Hate
Fedor has hurt his legacy a little bit(in his prime he fought the best though), but definitely not his wallet by going with M-1.
@rM
2. Agreed
1. Having Fedor and Mousasi fight in North America was not dumb, M-1 partnership allowed this to happen. If the UFC does an event with M-1 and you get to see Fedor v. Brock or something like that, both of us would probably be happy.
@ReX13
Overeem is at the top of the Winstrol MMA rankings:
1.Alistair Overeem
2.Josh Barnett
3.Antonio Silva
4.Shawn Sherk
5.Chris Leben
etc…

Hell yeah!!! I’m thinking Fedor by murderball, dos santos style, or vicious ground and pound. Werdum probabally has the best or second best (nog) Jiu Jitsu in the HW division so it could be dangerous but i think Fedor gots this.

Cecil.

What if Fedor holds the title after his contract? M-1 would have the UFC by the cookies.

Strikeforce is retarded for 2 reasons in my opinion:

1. They were dumb enough to “partner” with M-1
2. Non-title Exhibition fights…wtf is that about?!!?

What if all the MMA promoters of the world simply boycotted M-1?

Here is the issue with M-1 “co-promoting.” They do not want to seriously co-promote, they simply want to show up with a fighter, put their logo everywhere and collect half the money while not actually fronting anything to promote the event. M-1 is simply looking for a money grab and the UFC is smart not to allow it. If M-1 were to get serious and actually want to co-promote an event that would be one thing but we know that is not what they are trying to do. Fedor needs to realize he is actually hurting his legacy in the end by fighting mid-level talent like Werdum instead of taking on top challengers.

@Cestus84 I assume that comment was meant for me so I’ll respond. If not, please indicate who you are referring to…

The concessions I am talking about relate to co-promotion of M-1 Global alongside UFC, the issue that truly stalemated their last round of negotiations.

If it takes something like M-1 co-promotion to get Fedor in then UFC should concede IMO – bringing Fedor in to the UFC will serve to prove, good or bad, what kind of fighter Fedor is by matching him up against top 5 HW competition – not non-contender piss bags like Verdum. Why not do a 2-3 fight co-promotion contract (?), then decide whether to keep him or cut him based on Fedor’s UFC wins or losses.

See what I mean?

^^^Agreed. I don’t mean to sound like i think Uberbitchassereem is in my top 10–cause he isn’t. But Overeem/Emelianenko is a marquee matchup, and Dream is straight up thieving it from StrikeForce, and they can’t really afford to lose big matchups like that.

I dont get what you’re saying. You expect M1 to offer the UFC money to put on their own fights? How does that make sense?

I really really hope that Dana is serous about getting Fedor in the UFC – even if it means he has to make some concessions with M-1.

I am tired of Fedor gettin’ all this hype when he has been fighting non-contenders. To say that Verdum is a contender in Strikforce’s org is not that hard to do since they have like 7 or 8 heavyweights – not hard to reach contender status there. Dos Santos fuckin’ ruined Verdum in the UFC, then got his ass cut – and now he’ fighting Fedor?!? Whatever.

I will start taking Fedor seriously again when he fights someone worthwhile… although I don’t think Overeeem is even worthwhile, if Fedor can trounce this horse-meat-head then I’ll start giving two shits again.

Super serious post: ReX13 is to Cage Potato like Dana White is to UFC – he’ll chew your ass in front of everyone because it’s fun.

Don’t feel bad Greg, you just didn’t know what you were getting into when you took ReX13 too seriously. A very fine line separates sarcasm and reality here… welcome to CP.

Serious post: if anyone watched Dream 13, you may have seen/fast forwarded through montages where Dream looks ahead to the rest of 2010 and the fighters and matchups they anticipate showcasing. They seemed to insinuate that they would be having the Overeem/Fedor matchup this year. Anyone else catch this? We’ve heard rumors about Dream stealing this fight before–now Dream seems to be brazenly bragging that they are putting it together.

Yes…you truly are your brother’s keeper.

rlh61>> it did appear as though he was trying to poison and destroy my brothers.

greggsauce>> i’m told that they take awhile to arrive, but being nominated is an honor unto itself. That said, i can’t wait to sport the devil horns around the older, more conservative crowd i work with.

Well, you don’t go full retard until you’ve been posting for a while. Lord knows there are a lot of examples of that…however I think Curtis Sample may have gone full retard with the very first post.

Greg…ReX13 is on a roll and will soon verbally submit you.

ReX13…+100…for any Pulp Fiction reference. “Shit, negro, that’s all you had to say…”

Wow Rex13 be trolling, hahahaha that makes it all the more hilarious. You ever win your T-shirt yet?

Greg, you NEVER go full retard!

GEE-yuh-TEEN Says:
Wed, 03/24/2010 – 09:29

I hate thinking that Fedor will start to decline before he starts taking credible fights. Werdum is not a nobody, but I don’t think he’s top 5.

Agreed.

Gregm412 is a proud member of the literalnet.

I hate thinking that Fedor will start to decline before he starts taking credible fights. Werdum is not a nobody, but I don’t think he’s top 5.

jimbonics:

Strikefarce is very apt!

Fedor is way too strong for Werdum. The only thing Werdum does better is Jiu Jitsu which is his main weapon obviously. His stand-up is average at best and I can only see him finishing Fedor with a fortunate KO and we know how solid Fedor’s chin is!!!

Fedor will keep this one standing, bit of dirty boxing, will use his superior strength to toss Werdum about with double-underhooks and if Fedor does take Werdum down (if he chooses to) it will be the infamous Fedor GnP like he did against Nog. Those awesome overhand bombs in guard. Punishing.

I think Overeem vs Rogers will be a good spectacle!!! Both just like trading and throwing! Rogers is no joke as we saw from Fedor (I think he did surprise a few people with his strength against Fedor and his bear hugs haha). This will be a KO of the night I’m sure. Both have the gas of a vacuum and I’m pretty sure it will be over quickly. This is definitely one for the more perverse MMA viewers.

Well if this should not be an interim title fight then I don’t know what should be.
Overeem with Strikeforce’s help has made a mockery of the heavy weight division in the promotion.
It seems trivial that Strikeforce would not want to strap Fedor immeadiately after signing him to a three fight contract(with an interim title), now after Werdum, he has one fight left, if it’s for a title shot and he wins!!!!! HA! If Strikeforce thought M-1 held them over the coals the first negotiation process, Fedor will be the champ of Strikeforce and be a free agent……….

Wow, look at the big brain on Greg. He’s got opinions and he ain’t afraid to use ‘em.

_{Not afraid to look like a jerkface, either…}

For the record, Greg, your spelling was fine. You just correctly spelled the wrong word. So you actually would have needed a nerd to run a grammar check.

By the way, welcome to Cage Potato. You may want to “do some homework” and learn about your new home before posting too much dumb shit. Some of the posters here are just straight assholes, brah.

@ytrebil

Strikefarce?

I disagree with your assessment of Overeem v Rogers vs Fedor v Werdum. Overeem is very likely going to demolish Rogers, lucky haymaker notwithstanding. Werdum will actually compete with Fedor, lucky haymaker notwithstanding.

Swedish>> Technically, yeah–he was 2-2 in the UFC, beating Vera and Gonzaga, but he got beat by Arlovski. Then the UFC fired him after he lost to some unknown kid named Junior Dos Santos.

Hey Homobonics were not talking about just any fighter, were talking about Fedor so Fabricio Werdum is someone that can be overlooked to Fedor, they need to stop giving him good fighters and give him great fighters, and next time I want some nerd to do my spell check i’ll ask you

It’s just fucking bullshit isn’t it?

Strikeforce are a complete farce. They have a few good fighters but match them up with mediocracy. Werdum is decent but he’s pretty slow up against someone like Fedor. I give him a puncher’s chance, just like the majority of the people who have fought Fedor recently.

Who gives a damn about Strikeforce’s titles? No one. Is anyone bothered that Overeem is ‘only’ fighting an exhibition? No. In fact his fight vs Rogers is MUCH more evenly match and will be better contested than Fedor vs Werdum.

I just dream of a match-up between Fedor and Brock. Even Fedor vs Mir would be a damn good show. Or Fedor vs one of the old skool: Nog, Wandy, Randy…

@swedish

He was considered a big contender at heavyweight for a while with wins over Gonzaga (twice) and Vera. He also beat Overeem and Fedors brother. Beat Bigfoot his last time out.

Not a guy to be overlooked.

isn’t Werdum a UFC reject/washout? How is this a good test for the “emperor”?

M1 is on crack, if they were truely a promotional company then if they wanted Fedor to have the best competition they would have offered the UFC money to put on their own fights and bring in a UFC star to fight fedor, not the other way around…they are more interested in cashing in on Fedor than putting on fights themselves. Also Brett Rogers vs. Overeem is a NON TITLE FIGHT??? WTF is up with that!

Greg got trolled.

And it’s YOU’RE. Talk about needing to do homework….

I will assume that Rex13 has used the greatest instance of sarcasm I’ve ever seen…or he’s a retarded fanboy. Either way, I laughed.

Pretty much.

Ok, who is this Rex13? If your being serious then your in the wrong place, everyone who truly likes MMA knows who Fedor is and you need to do some homework.

I’ll believe this is going to happen when they are both inside the ring.

Anybody know if this Fedor guy is any good? I don’t think he’s ever had a UFC fight.