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It's simple, Chael received a reduced sentence based on false testimony. Therefore his suspension should naturally go up until September 2011. The additional time is based on two key factors, Perjury and prior convictions of money laundering, which leaves Sonnen 1yr from the day of his appeal hearing(this month) to re-apply for license. You cannot go into a hearing in front of the same people you lied to a few months ago and expect everything to go well, that would just be stupid wouldn't it?

For everyone else who misses uncle Chael, are you the same people who piss and moan about GSP going to decision all the time? If you are, perhaps you should take a close look at Chael's record, the guy only wins by decision in the UFC, otherwise he get's beat by submission.
I know he came close to grinding out Anderson(cracke ribs and all) but he didn't he failed and then failed again(steroids) and then failed again(Money Laundering) and then failed again(Perjury) and then .......catch my drift.
This guy is perfect for politics though, I'll give him that.

@GOOG, Chael is not an american hero, he is a boring boring wrestler.
I don't know why so many people are fans of watching people dry hump eachother for 25 mins.

I do have to give it up though because he dropped Anderson while they were on their feet.
I dont think Ive seen anybody else do that yet.

How do they expect Chael to hype fights if he has to be a role model? Have they seen how this guy ACTUALLY fights?

I would like all of you to know how much joy the CSAC decision, and all of you crying about it, brings me. Dude wasn't news worthy before he fought AS. He ran his mouth, took steroid and then fucking lost. Don't know why you guys are having such a hard time getting of his nuts. Maybe the tater nation needs to have an intervention for all of you who are going through steroidbabynuts withdraw.

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It's amazing that he was taking so little testosterone that still wouldn't raise him to the "average" level for a man his age, but tests at 4x the accepted level. He pissed hot. That is how this all started.

Why is there such a double standard when it comes to mma. Chael's a guy who made a couple bad mistakes, except for the testosterone therapy (which I am currently on the same treatment), but Floyd Mayweather can beat the shit outta his girlfriend, boxers can get arrested for drug possesion and every other imaginable offense and not have their license revoked.
And to answer the question, the level of testosterone he was taking is so minimal it still would'nt raise him to the "average" level of testosterone for a man his age. He'd still be able to get out of bed, but it would be very hard to get the motivation or keep it for long. Plus he suffers from depression, and a lot of other problems associated with extreme low testosterone levels.
Now that the UFC is going global, they should let him fight in every other country just as a point to the CSAC. He needs to make a living just like everyone else.Especially in this economy!

@ Goog, punched him for twenty minutes causing......no damage whatsoever and then losing the fight, fuck Sonnen, hes an asswipe.

That is rather strange that rampage does his deal and gets off relatively scott free. What about Chris lebens multiple DUI's? Isn't that a bad image put forth? What about Kimbo? Not sure if backyard brawling is illegal, but it's all about the image right? Not that his 1982 gold fronts help matters, but...

Multiple other people have been caught using PED's, paid their dues and got back in the game. Chael is being blackballed hard on this one.

I think there should be a disclosure of an exception of a fan based vote. Millions of fans worldwide can be a better judge if the guy is right for the sport, versus a couple of douchebags on a commission. I don't care what he does outside of the ring. If he gets caught doing something, gets in trouble, who cares.

This man put Anderson Silva on the back of his bulbous brown dome and punched him for 20+ minutes. He as much an American hero as Abraham Lincoln. He's to be celebrated and rewarded.

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Hmmmm let me see, on the one hand......naah fuck him, he's a lying cheating douche bag, and now he's a kying cheating douche bag with no visible means of support, sucks to be you huh Chael

If he cant apply anywhere in the USA for nearly a year they shouldnt be able to "blackball" him and basically prevent him from making a living if he applies elsewhere that borders on illegal activity by the comission. I say give a huge fuck you back to the USA athletic comission and take 2-3 fights a year outside of the country. Lets face it people the UFC is going global he doesnt need that license in Nevada, California or any other of the fucking assholes in the united states.

Has no one mentioned that hypogonadism (low testosterone) is a SIDE EFFECT of testosterone usage? Here's what happens: You use lots of steroids. Your testicles no longer feel the need to produce it since your body is getting it from elsewhere (that's why they shrink). Once you cycle off, your T levels go really low because you're not taking steroids and your testicles aren't producing much anymore. Then you go to the doctor, have you T levels tested, and the doc says, gee, your T levels are low, you need more T. And then he gives you steroids.

@mDino it's really the gift that keeps on giving.

i vote we all send mr dodd well worded emails about this topic like the one above until he realizes hes an ass hat

I think the saying "You made your bed, now lie in it"
is appropriate for this whole situation.
Get it...."lie"?

Haha, Viva, I wasn't about to give that out to you animals.

its my birthday today and what did i get?? a chael free year

You forgot to include your telephone number, just sayin.

Since I'm a resident of California, I decided to call up George Dodd. He gave me his email address and said that he would personally forward my concerns to the commission. We'll see if they respond. Here's what I wrote:

Hi George,

Thank you for taking the time to speak to me on the phone and forwarding this appeal to the commission.

As I stated on the phone, I am a resident of California, as well as a fan of mixed martial arts. I believe that the decision to suspend Chael Sonnen until May, 2012, is entirely unwarranted and does not constitute an appropriate response to his infractions. The CSAC originally fined him $2500 and suspended him until September, 2011. That suspension was then reduced to 6 months, which would have ended in March, 2011. As far as I can tell, the reason behind this new suspension has to do with his felony conviction for money-laundering, rather than the initial issue of steroid use. These things being the case, I have several questions/concerns:

1. If the CSAC saw fit to reduce his original suspension from 1 year to 6 months, why has it now decided to essentially suspend him for a total of nearly 22 months? Why does the CSAC feel that this particular punishment is in proportion to his infractions?
2. If the reason for the new suspension is, indeed, some type of moral concern, why did the CSAC fail to punish Quinton Jackson when he was found guilty of a hit-and-run accident which caused his victim to have a miscarriage? Was this not also an issue of great moral concern (greater, in all probability)? Why is Chael Sonnen being singled out?
3. If the federal government is satisfied that Chael Sonnen has paid an appropriate price for his crimes, why does the CSAC feel that he must be further punished? Also, if the crime occurred 5 years ago, why does the CSAC feel the need to retroactively punish him? If they feel it is necessary to do so, wouldn't they be required to punish Quinton Jackson (or others like him) for similar past criminal lapses in judgement?
4. What is the precedence, if any, for this type of suspension?
5. Why does the CSAC feel it is necessary to deprive this man of his means of making a living if he is already in the process of making restitution for his federal crimes and has already made restitution for his steroid use?

I will be awaiting your response. If you would prefer to reach me by telephone, my number is below.

This guy annoys me, but the CSAC is way the fuck out of line on this one, and are overstepping their bounds. This is just wrong.

He lied, and then he lied to cover up his lie.

I have a question with the CSAC and them saying other AC's must contact them if Chael attempts to acquire a license. What is the point of that? Isnt it common knowledge among the other athletic commissions that they do not favor him getting a license? It seems rather irrelevant on the matter to contact them, unless its just a matter of CSAC wanting it to be known that they run shit and they are the one holding the lifeline of Chaels career.

When he said he has the testosterone of a 93-year-old man, I think he was referring to Hugh Hefner.

@amsterdamheavy Thank Christ. I was getting really tired of explaining in both every Sonnen AND Anderson thread that it wasn't just normal HRT levels. It was way, way more. Anyhoo I think the athletic commissions are primarily a joke because they are nepotistic bullshit and not elected people who have experience / knowledge of athletics. I think Sonnen is a son of a bitch piece of shit real estate fraud and contributed waaaayyy more to the market breakdown than any one family put in a loan they couldn't afford. All that being said, let him fight, stupidity on his level should be considered a serious handicap and he should be given an extra allowance of horseshit.

Id also like to add that Sonnen was suspended for his test use, but this additional time has been added on for *lying* about his authorization/being cleared to compete while ON test. I mean, for fucks sake, he used Keith Kizer as an alibi and Kizer denies all of it - thats really bad. Its like he fucked up, was on "probabtion" and fucked up again - thats why they are being so hard on him. As for the money laundering conviction, I dont think that should play any part in this, hes been sentenced, he has to pay for what he did already.

@ Aryan - The athletic commissions would not allow him to fight outside the US, but they have no power to stop him. In fact, they have no power outside of their respective states, but the state commissions maintain a system of reciprocity in recognizing the decisions one state's commission makes in the rest of them. The suspension they hand down technically bars Sonnen from fighting in the sport. If he chooses to go around them, then they likely will not re-license him if he ever seeks licensure in the US again. And the UFC will not defy the commission, so they won't let Sonnen fight for them in Germany or Abu Dhabi.

Regarding testosterone replacement therapy, no one "needs it to get out of bed in the morning". That being said, low test levels can effect you physically and mentally (make you act like a ragging bitch). I dont believe for a minute that he had the T levels of a 93 yr old man, either. TRT dosages generally range in the 75-125mg a week range and some would call 125mg way high. Different products with different esters would make a difference in how it is dosed and when, the ester determines how long it takes your body to break it down and use it, like time release. For instance Sustenol is a combination of different short and long acting esters that was created for TRT specifically and generally it would be one shot a month. A typical steroid users does test at anywhere between 250mg/week to a 1000mg/for hardcore bodybuilder types. There is *NO WAY* that Sonnen was using TRT level doses with the numbers his tests showed - Sonnen was on steroids, not TRT. Yes, it is a semantic difference, but important in this case, its the different between legitimate hormone replacement and steroid abuse.

It depends on how you look at it. Low T can leave you depressed and sexually defunct, which could lead to not being able to get yourself out of bed every morning due to your life severely sucking...not that I would know anything about that! Runs away...

... consequences of low testosterone could be depression and anhedonia, sort of like 'not being able to get out of bed in the morning' - but not so physically weak they can't get out of bed

Oh, come on CSAC. This guy will have served more than a year for his HRT suspension, and you said yourself he helps kids. And he hasn't defrauded anybody in real estate since 2006. He's taken serious steps. And what better step towards making good decisions could there be than beating the crap out of Michael Bisping. Let him back in. I'm sure he's real sorry for everything.

^^If the CSAC disallowed Sonnen from fighting in the U.S. because of serious matters (which they are), then for him to fight in another country that has no athletic commission is just blatantly exploiting a loophole. The U.S. commissions do not like that.

the athletic commision is there to assess and promote the safety opf the sport in a regulated manner, and should only be able to suspened fighters for violating that policy...

it should NOT be able to DENY a fighter based on his personal items outside the ring, he should serve his suspension for the small testes meds, then be able to fight immediatly afterwards...fuck them for keeping him out of the sport for detrement to MMA..

he isnt a detriment to MMA he is a detriment to his own personal self.. fuck off keith kizer

Why would they have a problem with him fighting in a different country? Cant he fight in Abu Dhabi or Germany if the UFC goes there?

probably ;)

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