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Counter-Point: Maybe Gene LeBell Didn’t Make Steven Seagal Shit His Pants?

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Legendary ’70s rocker Steven Seagal was recently a guest on MMAFighting‘s “The MMA Hour,” and after firing off some dependably insane nonsense about how Jon Jones doesn’t punch or kick well, and how Anderson Silva “either fears me pretends to fear me,” Seagal got into the only topic that we really care to hear him address at this point: Whether or not “Judo” Gene LeBell literally choked the shit out of him circa 1990. As you can imagine, Seagal is on the “no, I didn’t shit my pants” side of the argument. Here’s what he said, as transcribed by our buds at FilmDrunk:

I don’t even know if he is still alive. Is he still alive? I never knew this about him – either he is a pathological liar or he had somebody making up these stories. He came over to my trailer and I was with a guy called Conrad Palmisano who is still a legend, one of the greatest stunt co-ordinators in the history of Hollywood. [LeBell and I] were standing there talking about moves and stuff like that and we were just doing some stretching and he was showing me how you can stretch…he wanted to stretch my back and then I kind of flipped over the top of him and said ‘thank you for that.’

There was never any confrontation with him ever. In any way, shape or form. And I swear to god on my children – and they are the most precious thing in my life – if he is saying that he is a pathological scumbag liar. I keep answering that [question]. Either he made up this lie or someone made it up…Gene Le Bell has never even said anything impolite to me. When he has seen me he has been extremely polite to me and just acted like a friend. I think you know the truth here and everyone else knows the truth and if Gene is saying sh*t like that he should be ashamed of himself.

And after I heard this I did start to think of some other things he had said, like he said to me he had beat the shit out of Bruce Lee and I started to think well maybe this guy is a pathological liar. He should never make up these kind of sick…you know…It just makes him look like a total asshole. It makes him look like a demented child.”

There’s a little-known corollary to Occam’s razor called “Buster’s pickle-slicer,” which states the following: When two famous people tell conflicting stories of an alleged altercation, the more entertaining story is the usually the more accurate one, especially when it involves something humiliating happening to Steven Seagal. Considering that Seagal has a well-documented reputation for starting trouble on movie sets, shouldn’t we be more apt to believe LeBell’s version? And more importantly, isn’t that the version you want to believe?

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linzhandf- June 21, 2012 at 9:11 pm
fun4uoc- June 21, 2012 at 8:22 am
From the man himself.

"When we had a little altercation or difference of opinion, there were thirty stuntmen and cameramen that were watching," LeBell recounted with a chuckle. "Sometimes Steven has a tendency to cheese off the wrong people, and you can get hurt doing that.

"So if a guy soils himself, you can't criticize him, because if they just had a nice big dinner an hour before, you might have a tendency to do that."
The Fresh One- June 21, 2012 at 6:46 am
Steve totally pooped.
smellypiratehooker- June 21, 2012 at 3:48 am
Maybe he just had some bad chinese food that day.
Tim Sylvia 1 P4P EVA- June 20, 2012 at 9:15 pm
Seagal is a cocksucker, I know this from people who have worked with him on films. He treats everyone like shit, like servants, and lesser human beings. Gene made him shit his pants, end of story. Ask John Leguizamo what a dick he is, remember this
bgoldstein- June 20, 2012 at 6:45 pm
@FilmDrunk: Is it ironic to claim credit for a meme based on Steven Seagal claiming credit for everything?
FilmDrunk- June 20, 2012 at 6:56 pm
I would say it's more meta. (*adjusts scarf, plays Inception BRAAAAAAHMM*)
FilmDrunk- June 20, 2012 at 5:57 pm
Not that I need more validation from CP after you so graciously allowed me to get super-pervy on a round table, but in the interests of accuracy, I did create that banner image and meme. can suck it.
J. Jones- June 20, 2012 at 6:27 pm
I just want to say that I have been a daily reader of your site for a few years now and think it's simply awesome. FilmDrunk + Pajiba = my daily two stop shop for movie news.
2Dogs- June 20, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Segull seems to be defending his point pretty hard...almost to the point of aggravation....shouldnt a sensei feel no emotion..only common sense. I agree with Raton on this
raton- June 20, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Somewhere in the middle lies the truth. I'm guessing Gene did some awesome move on Seagal causing him to look like an ass and he probably sharted. Not a full blown shit, just a shart.
roachtbp- June 20, 2012 at 12:59 pm
Wait, Seagal is claiming that Gene is a liar for claiming that he beat the shit out of Bruce Lee??? Of course Gene beat the shit out of Bruce Lee - Bruce Lee didn't know anything about grappling when he came to Gene to learn, so I'm sure Bruce Lee got tapped out repeatedly, just like anyone has never trained grappling before who rolls with someone who is well trained in grappling. I have no doubt that Gene destroyed Bruce Lee when they grappled. And Seagal is claiming that this statement makes Gene a liar??? Seagal is a fucking idoit.
towelie- June 20, 2012 at 1:17 pm
not to harp on your spelling capabilities, but I find it best to spell 'idiot' correctly when calling someone one.
towelie- June 20, 2012 at 12:33 pm
delusional mother fucker.
PureClint- June 20, 2012 at 12:27 pm
he wanted to stretch my back and then I kind of flipped over the top of him
towelie- June 20, 2012 at 12:38 pm
yeah, thanks for elaborating on that Steven.
Joedirt- June 20, 2012 at 12:26 pm
Seagal may be reputable as a black belt but Gene PROVED his abilities competing with the worlds best on so many occasions. Competition says a lot. My money says Gene would have twisted Seagal into a pretzel with little effort back in the 90s. With that said... that story has never been passed on by Gene... it's always others who claim to have been on set.
amsterdamheavy- June 20, 2012 at 12:20 pm
HAH hAAAAAAAAA - Seagal shit his pants! Seagal shit his pants! Seagal shit his pants! Seagal shit his pants! Seagal shit his pants! Seagal shit his pants!
Fried Taco- June 20, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Then Stevie proceeded to say that Judo Gene doesn't even own a pink gi.
That_guy- June 20, 2012 at 11:56 am
I want to believe Seagal, but he's just too bat shit crazy. Judo Gene for the win.