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Dana White on EliteXC: “That’s Fucking Illegal”; Lappen Changes His Story Again


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Dana White is downright pissed off. He’s so mad at EliteXC in this video, one camera angle is insufficient for capturing his rage. He lays into EliteXC for the Seth Petruzelli “knockout bonus” scandal and suggests that Jeremy Lappen and the Shaws should look into the kickboxing business if they want to keep fights off the ground so badly. I couldn’t agree more.

For his part, EliteXC Head of Operations Jeremy Lappen changes his story yet again in a talk with AOL Fanhouse. First, Lappen told Si.com that Petruzelli was offered a knockout bonus, but the company doesn’t offer submission bonuses. Then he told ESPN.com that Petruzelli was offered a KO bonus, a submission bonus, and a fight of the night bonus. Now he says both stories misquoted him:

“They’re both wrong,” Lappen said. “We have given submission bonuses in the past but they’re not as common as knockout bonuses. If the question is, ‘Have we ever given submission bonuses?’ The answer is yes. But we give knockout bonuses more often. We gave Seth a knockout bonus before the fight started. That was part of the deal.”

Hold up, you gave him a knockout bonus before the fight started? As in, before he had knocked anyone out? Goddammit Lappen, I sure as hell hope you were “misquoted” yet again. At the very least I hope it’s just poor phrasing on your part and what you meant to say was you told of him of a potential knockout bonus before the fight. But either way, it’s still bullshit. You offered him an incentive to win a fight in a very specific manner, not an incentive to simply finish the fight.

Not to mention, this is the third time you’ve changed your story. Nobody gets misquoted this often. Not unless they keep changing their story so often that they can’t keep all the versions straight in their own mind.

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akthor- October 12, 2008 at 6:29 pm
ummm where did I say I thought the UFC bribed judges? I believe my post was refuting that accusation by dana whites conscience.

BTW I thought forrest beat rampage also some fights are just close and a lot of times the 10 point must system they use which may work for boxing is imperfect for MMA and obviously can cause some weird decisions. I mean look at the fight on tuff between the ju jitsu guy and the armenian?????? one guy completey one sidedly dominates the whole fight and the judges give it to the other guy. I mean the bisping and forrest fights were a whole hell of a lot closer so I don't understand where people get shocked by some of the fights when its left in the hands of judges, typically boxing judges.
Dagnut- October 12, 2008 at 6:09 pm
@ Akthor - ok so you've seen the fallout of an organization just offering incentive bonus's..you really thing white and the UFC would risk bribing judges?
are you that stupid?..I had this same moronic debate after the griffin / jackson fight..who would risk their rapidly expanding business by bribing judges? you can't get away with anything nowadays because we have our own media now..the internet..White nows this one thing he's not is stupid
akthor- October 12, 2008 at 5:40 pm
you are not only high but foolish to compare the Bisping/Hammil fight to the circus that is elitexc. I actually think Bisping won fair and square but it was a close fight and could have gone either way.

also all of you that go on and on about there needing to be other MMA promotions competing with the UFC for us the fans to get the best product and for the fighters to be treated fairly are not very smart. look at the joke boxing is with its umteen million different federations. and look at how well boxers have fared? I mean even top guys have been fucked over.

if you need proof that all you need is one top teir promotion and then the consumers and the athletes all get the best of both worlds simply look at the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, PGA, WTA. I mean christ the evidence is on the tv 24/7 more promtions just dilutes everything and waters it down and you end with joke promotions with joke fights. which will hurt MMA because the average joe won't be converted into fans and the sport will stop growing and it will just be us hardcore fans and less fighters and fights like the earlier UFC days. MMA will be an oddity and a sideshow and not a serious sport like it is slowly working towards.
Dana White's Conscience- October 12, 2008 at 8:18 am
Hmmmm....."boxing scum bags trying to fix fights..." Uh oh, the Matt Hamill and Michael Bisping fight was fixed too, we paid the judges to swing the scores. The fans even saw right through that mess. We had to do that to win British fans. We had to win British fans so we could expand our enterprise to Europe and make more money in the long run. Oh well, I'll just make it look like the UFC frowns on fixing/fixed fights (especially when it's in pursuit of it's an agenda) so we'll look better than our competition/competitors. That way we'll beat out all the other MMA enterprises and we'll have a monopoly on the fighters and their salary. We'll pay them the lowest salaries we can legally get away with, and they'll have no place else to go. We'll keep getting richer and richer, and our fighters will...well screw 'em. I'll just pretend like I care about them. I'm so smart, I'm Dana White, and I shave my head and my ass...which reminds me....what's Liddell doing this weekend?
shutupandfight- October 11, 2008 at 11:41 pm
i don't care if Kimbo Slice...which btw is a very appropriate name given the fukin circus he works for...is 500-0 w-l...he still can't fukin fight.
dandeman- October 11, 2008 at 11:13 pm
"that wanna be rapper shaw jr" Ha! Dana lays the smackdown on SKALA. Yeah Jr is a retard.
the glza- October 11, 2008 at 11:05 pm
@mmmiles

all the fighters i chose were 3-1 in their first four fights.

petruzelli is hardly a royce -- all i'm saying is that you can't call a fighter worthless or bad just because he's lost one of his first four fights.
HOT STINK- October 11, 2008 at 9:22 pm
My dog as a 4 inch clit
MMA FAN- October 11, 2008 at 6:58 pm
as much as i hate him, he's 100 percent right on that one
yo- October 11, 2008 at 6:05 pm
ya deadpanda, i agree with you on the swearing part. although dana is completely right in everything he's saying, what he's saying really loses professionalism and maturity when you swear like that, considering you're the man who runs the ufc. i mean i really don't care when he swears, but other people (maybe people on the athletic commision) may not like it
curt- October 11, 2008 at 5:55 pm
i fucking love dana white!
Dewey- October 11, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I'm gonna to throw a party when EliteXC goes under.
Renn- October 11, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Right on Dana, right on!
Tuf guy- October 11, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Dana White for President 2008!
mmmiles- October 11, 2008 at 2:34 pm
@the glza

Ken Shamrock opened his pro career going 5-1, not 3-1, and his first loss was to Royce Gracie. Are you suggesting Seth Petruzelli is the Royce Gracie of light heavyweights?

Dan Severn's first loss was to Royce as well, and he was 5-1 in his pro debut. Furthermore, Severn's second loss was to Shamrock. Starting to see a pattern? Legitimate fighters (at the time) fighting legitimate competition (... at the time) leads to results that real fans actually care about.

Oh, and Anderson Silva lost his first fight to a split decision, and then won his next 9. Why are you using any of these people as examples?

Kimbo fought a bunch of scrubs then got knocked out by an average LHW in 14 seconds. I wish him better luck in his next fight, but unless it's on free TV I'll just watch it on the internet later.
shutupandfight- October 11, 2008 at 2:13 pm
"Kimbo Slice sucks...he can't fukin fight..."- Dana White

i agree...he is 100% right....completely and flawlessly without a fuking doubt correct.
the glza- October 11, 2008 at 1:31 pm
how can you call kimbo a bum already after 4 fights? you know who else lost 1 of his first 4 fights?

dan severn
anderson silva
matt hughes
kazushi sakuraba
ken shamrock
alexsander emelianenko
oleg tarkatov
yves edwards
jeremy fucking horn

should i go on?

stfu idiots -- the guy has more potential than most. the fact that he's being hyped so much is not his fault -- it's exc's fault.

love dana's rant, btw. he's 100% right.

and so is krazy goat. political crap out -- let's keep this a special, magical place for discussion of of armbars and knockouts, not a cesspool of promotion for liars and thieves
Frank- October 11, 2008 at 1:12 pm
"I, for one, would no longer consider committing any crimes once Dana White had loudly and forcefully advised on their illegality."

nisezoom: LOL

I'm going to use "That's FUCKING illegal!" as my new catchphrase, too. Can't wait to use it at work tomorrow.
nisezoom- October 11, 2008 at 10:04 am
That moment when he appears to be interviewed by himself, he pauses, turns to the camera is wonderfully absurd.

Dana White should be doing PSA's. Just like here, he can interview himself for 30 seconds describing, say, joining Al Quaeda, insider stock trading, jaywalking, serial murder, etc. Pause. Turn to the camera and deliver his new catchphrase: "THAT'S FUCKING ILLEGAL!".

I, for one, would no longer consider committing any crimes once Dana White had loudly and forcefully advised on their illegality.
gvd- October 11, 2008 at 7:38 am
Wow I used to hate Dana White but after this video HE IS THE MAN! Kimbo is a joke fighter, and anyone who likes him doesn't know shit about MMA. EliteXC better be fucked.
Aaron- October 11, 2008 at 6:37 am
Dana White is the shit! I think we all know Kimbo is a shit fighter and Elite XC is a shit promotion though.
Browns???- October 11, 2008 at 6:16 am
Come on Dana that was awesome but to ever say anything about the fucking browns vs the patriots is idiotic, the fucking browns are terrible... stick to your MMA references not the NFL.
Reel Sandman- October 11, 2008 at 4:40 am
Dana White is my hero.
tallsforeverybody- October 11, 2008 at 2:56 am
Dana's on it. EXC brass is a bunch of knuckleheaded goofs.

Maybe Affliction can put on an event or two (maybe, the last one sucked) that would be of interest, but in terms of building a sport they should just get out of the way.

UFC is the only credible promotion like it or not.

WEC is a distant second...and its owned by UFC!

Let t-shirt guy and the other yahoos go waste money somewhere else.

PS-dipshit rapper guy! LOL

Ot
UFC fan- October 11, 2008 at 2:51 am
yep BIMBO made a half a mil.
I promise that's not enough he has to feed his kids, and I'm sure my-nigga gotz 2 blue billion chillins fo sho!
Another words, a couple of "blings"
and some more hookers,
BIMBO will be back for more money.
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