(Props: MMA-Core)
I don’t know about you guys, but where I come from we refer to the above behavior as "screwing around." Clearly Thales Leites didn’t show up with the intention of bringing the fight to Silva last night, so he shares some of the blame for the most unsatisfying main event since, well, Silva vs. Cote. But when Silva starts fighting like a sixth grade bully, more intent on making you look stupid than on actually hurting you, it’s hard to argue that he performed like a champ.
Leites may have flopped around on the mat for five rounds, but what did any of us really expect from him? Silva, on the other hand, is supposed to be the holy terror of the UFC. We’re all very impressed at the cool stuff he can pull off during a fight, but we’re way more impressed when one of those cool things is knocking people out.
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Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:24
primeroooo..
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:25
Uno
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:28
that fight was a joke...anderson couldve finished the fight at any point.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:29
Who gets the points when you fall to the mat on your own?
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:29
in silva's defence, he didn't start f'ing around until the final round, when it was 100% apparent that leites wasn't going to engage in any real exchanges.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:33
they need to give him somebody who is actually going to try and fight him, not continually back up and fall on the ground. henderson? okami? marquardt? anyone?
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:37
Anonymous is right! Marquardt deserves a rematch.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:37
Anderson prooved one thing last night, that he can dance!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:37
YES SIR, AFTER VIEWING THE ABOVE QUICK FLIX, THAT SILVA SURE IS CHAPION MATERIAL. SILVA SAYS, OOOOOHHHHHHH, I'M GOING TO JAB HIM IN THE LEG, AND SHOW EVERYONE WHY I'M DUBBED THE BEST POUND 4 POUND FIGHTER ON EARTH. WHAT THE FUCK EVER. HE SHOULD JUST HAND THE BELT OVER TO LIDDELL SO HE CAN RETIRE WITH HIS BELT BACK WHERE IT BELONGS. LOL......SILVA IS NOT CHAMPION WORTHY. HELL, I THINK HE SHOULD JUST RETIRE RIGHT ALONG SIDE OF THE ICEMAN.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:40
@tusker: this is true, it seemed like 1st round silva was waiting for leites to engage then realized by the end of the round that that wasnt gonna happen. the next 3 rounds was silva just getting more and more pissed then by 5th round he was just messing around.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:40
omg he was just fucking around with the guy give him a worthy oppenent 2 fight , not a lame scared fuck
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:41
As Anderson said on the post fight interview, it takes two people to make a fight. Thales clearly wasn't able to face Anderson's stand up, so he decided to try to take the fight to the ground, diving his ass to the ground over and over again, stupdly. Anderson took no damage, and threw, like, 100 blows to Thales. He fought smart and won. Give him an opponent that wants to engage, and he'll give you a show. (Sorry for eventual mistakes... still learning english...)
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:42
Okami must deserve a shot! him and marquardt would bring it!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:43
OVER COURSE HES NOT GOING TO ENGAGE LIKE THAT; HES NOT A STRIKER.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:47
where's the gif of silva greasing his whole upper body? i thought that was more interesting than the garbage fest that followed
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:51
I blame the UFC. What the fuck kinda matchup is this anyway? And the Anderson/Cote matchup? W...T....F.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:53
How dare you people!! What you don't know is Thales Leites has a serious inner-ear infection which affects his balance and coordination, and held him back in this fight. Why else do you think he kept falling down for no reason? But hey...this is what you get for swimming in public pools without ear plugs after the 3rd grade swim class just had their juice break.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:59
Leites should retire, he was just scared shitless the whole fight, laying down on the ground whenever he could. What kind of game plan is that? And what kind of fight can we except when someone does that? Leites should not have been in the octagon with Silva in the first place, he did not deserve the title shot.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:05
Big deal. This is what happens with shitty matchmaking. It's hard to blame Silva, and Leites probably deserves his walking papers after that. He was more outmatched than Thiago Silva was against Machida, but at least Thiago had the decency to get knocked out. It was a bad fight, but yeah, I was amused by punching to the legs and the ridiculous kicks. Ehh?
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:11
i dont understand why Silva was booed or why he's catchin flak for his performance. he won, he was dominant, and he showed Leites up without doing anything. also, why would he run the risk of injuring himself when he knows he might have a fight with GSP? If Leites didnt want to fight, than why should he?
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:15
I thought it was cute how Leites would fall on his back and play dead everytime Silva came after him. It was a pretty good way to avoid the clinch...
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:35
why is CP advertising that retarded fight movie...wow sell outs..
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:38
Not included amongst those gifs: Silva's foot punching. Motherfucking FOOT PUNCHING.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:44
Hello all of you in potato world I have several things to say about last nights fights. First lets look at the reasons why it was a good Idea for Silva not to take any dangerous risks. 1) He didnt have to. It is the responsibilty of the challenger to take his belt all he has to do is defend it. 2) Since he took virtually no damage we will see him again soon. 3) Him and GSP were going to one of Canadas famous strip clubs after the fight. He wanted to look good. Now I would like to touch on the Liddell Shogun fight. I dont think that either one of them looked great. What I do think however is Liddell has reached his peak and is in decline, its time to hang up the gloves. Shogun however in my opinion can recover from his surgeries and be a real contender in the LHW division. On a side note I have read through nearly all of the blogs and wanted to know. At the beggining of the fight as soon as Silva stepped in the ring I saw him wipe vaseline off of his face and then wipe it on his arms and chest. Just wanted to see if anyone else saw anything similiar.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:46
blame the UFC for this shitty fight not Silva . Cant really do shit if the person u are fighting keeps falling on his ass over and over again. I think Silva did the right thing and i think he is amazing for hitting that knee if you dont kno the reason for that go fucking watch a diff sport. THIS sport is changing you cant just run in and swing for the fences look at Chuck you do that and you get cought. THAT style of fighting is over ;D
Sun, 04/19/09 - 12:54
"Silva, on the other hand, is supposed to be the holy terror of the UFC." You've got to be kidding me... Anderson Silva has never, ever, said anything close to that. It's the people that don't know shit about MMA that keep pushing things like that (and apparently people who knows MMA well too). What happened to Ben & Ben? I don't know if you remember them but they where two intelligent and witty writers that used to write here on CagePotato.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:10
I feel that when you are champion, the challenger must come and try to take the belt away from you. Thales wanted to fight on the ground, You dont flop to the ground and hope he follows you, WTF! You take him down and if that doesnt work you do it over and over again until you do get it to the ground. You dont flop cuz your scared. If Thales didn't prepare to strike WTF is he doing fight Silva. He should be in grappling tournaments. Silva had his hand down to his waits the whole five round and played with Thales the whole time, Silva couldn't finish cuz everytime he got close Thales would flop like a fish out of water. Weak fight not cuz of Silva cuz of the Chanllenger. That is why you are called the Challenger!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:17
That was a garbage bag of a fight. Silva and Leites both fought smart fights, they fought not to lose. Leites carpet impersonation was due to the fact he had no chance on his feet and he hoped by the grace of God Silva would decide to lay down into a triangle or something. Silva wanted nothing to do with his guard so he decided to improv new limb strikes for five rounds. They both seemed intent on not getting caught. Smart, but it led to a shit fight nonetheless. (Youtube is full of shit fights, and none of them cost me $45). I guarantee Franklin, Henderson, and the rest of Silva's former victims wished Silva had devolped this infight apathy years ago. Smart fight? Yes, but nothing for the P4P best to be even remotely proud of either.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:19
Silva Leites fight was fucking crap. I love Silva but he was well with in striking distance for hmmm 20 minutes of that fight? No excuses, ok so the guy didnt want to fight Silva....big fucking deal...take the fight to him. I cant count how many times silva was tapping on thales lead hand...i mean the reach was calculated and all in silva's favor. Just a couple fucking punches...would that really have been to much to ask for? Bullshit SHOGUN is back fuckers
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:19
Leites did let silva fight him!!! he just fell down ever time he got punched
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:20
I can understand that Silva didn't want to fight on the ground in the first round because yes, Lietes does have an advantage there. But by the end of round 3 I think Silva could have chanced it and gone for the finish rather than the win. He really is just biting Machida's style now. But I would even go so far as to say he surpassed him at it. Alternatively, smashfacekillah could be right about the strip clubs.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:27
Holy fuck!! Silva is a punk ass pussy fucktard! I will never again watch a PPV with him in it!! He couldn't knock out shit. Fucking gay leg kicks for 5 rounds? Same as the last fight. Fucking gay!!! Behind the leg faggot soccer passes?! Punch the leg? This is MMA right? Which includes stand up fighting and on the ground wrestling! Fuck him! I hate Anderson Silva!! Go fuck yourself! Bummer that the Iceman lost. That sucked.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:48
Ben ur entire article sucks, u sounds like a ping-pong guy talking about mma. Go fish and maybe u can get some good knowledge about a fight
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:50
@ Anon, CP sells out because the Bens don't have the business acumen that has allowed you to reach to the heights of "Anon Topic Troll", therefore, they have to sell out to make any money at all. Besides, Benjewman, is... well... Jewish. Since Hollywood = Jew, it's more of a cultural/religous requirement than anything else. @ Bugo, Anderson never said it, and the Ben's never said he did, but it's the reputation he has built. Everyone seems to disagree with you, as you point out in your poorly worded parenthetcal sentence.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:53
You know what I hate about being a fan of this sport? It is that every time someone bashes a fight for resembling square dancing more than fighting, the MMA Know it alls ridicule you and say you know nothing about technique and technical and need to go back to wrestling. I wonder when I get my mma certificate that allows me to criticize great fighters that think entertaining is not that important. All of you TUF Guys that keep kicking fellow MMA Fans in the balls because your MMA Brain is bigger that your dick needs to wise up and realize we are all on the same team and want this sport to do well. The Silva fight is what hurts this sport. Yeah he won,...To a house full of boos. Who pays those salaries? Dana? Lorenzo? Know it is the fans. Without us they would fold like Elite XC. SSilva needs to be on a MAY NOT BE BROADCAST fight and maybe his ass will wake up. Or make him close his eyes at the bell and take a punch. Maybe then he will get mad and stop doing the macarena in the ring.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:56
Yeah I agree with Andre's Pee Pee. It's not about the KO. If every fight ended in a KO it would get old. It is about engaging. FUCK YOU MMA KNOWLEDGE BULLIES!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 01:59
I still like Anderson Silva.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:02
Okay, I know some of you will flame me for this but it has to be said: Leites makes BJJ look really lame. When a "world class" wrestler wants to take a fight to the ground, they take the other guy down (or at least try). But when a "world class" BJJ grapler wants to take the fight to the ground they just flop on their ass the whole fight (maybe even but scoot ala Lister style). BJJ can be so much more useful than how Leites made it look.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:03
OK, so my hung over and disappointed ass has been knocking Silva all morning (not a morning person). The arguments in his favor have a lot of merit, and Leites was acting too timid. But at the same time, like Ample said, there were plenty of times that Anderson could have engaged and didn't. Sure, you gotta beat the champ, but he was acting like a bully. A lot of people see his post fight humble act and when you combine that with the hype train, people seem oblivious to his bad attitude. He wanted to counter, Leites wanted find an opening to get takedowns. They both shoulda manned up. Silva could have at least threw more punches (not at feet or legs), even if it just meant Leites went to his butt. If Anderson would have kept landing, and Leites still falling, there would be less fingers pointed at the champ.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:07
Thales Leites = Kalib Starnes Give Silva a real opponent and we will have a good fight.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:08
You see what Dana is saying about Silva publicly. What do you think he is saying to Leites privately? I bet his ass is getting reamed.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:09
Silva needs to fight a puncher next. Then he can smash his face in.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:12
@ cap lock Hal You do know that Anderson Silva has a Middleweight title not the Light heavy weight, which is chuck liddell's division.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:16
@Bugo Schmidt - cosign. Keyboard warriors calling Silva a punk-ass. Get in the cage or ring and go undefeated against UFC competition like Silva. ANY BOXER willing to lunge forward and punch his opponent's leg is asking, BEGGING for a CHALLENGE. Personally if any did a behind-the-back leg quick THAT spins an oppponent, then I would try to retaliate in some way. Thales Leites, not so much. ------- Your opinions on his behavior is not fact. You're probably reading way too much into the storylines from the UFC marketing machine and the storylines provided by Sherdog, MMAMania, CagePotato, FightLinker, etc.. You probably believe that Arvloski was beating Fedor and think it is a fact that Fedor got lucky. Sigh, get over it. Put Marquardt in the ring against Anderson Silva and watch what happens AGAIN. Please do not forget, Leites, of all people, dropped Great Nate with HIS striking. Anderson Silva did his job again, fights are not scripted. Get over it.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:17
You can't really blame Leites until the later rounds. His striking was out-classed and had no way to get Silva where he wanted. The frustrating thing was that he kept trying that flop stuff when he knew it wouldn't work. If anything it just pissed Silva off, who then kinda spazzed and started doing random stuff. Just because he was a challenger doesn't mean he should just throw himself in there and get destroyed. I do think however by the 4th round, he should've taken more chances and changed his strategy up. It just goes to show that it really helps to be proficient in judo or wrestling in MMA, especially if your specialty requires you to be on the ground. While Machida uses the same intelligent fighting, his striking is way more refined than Leites. I wouldn't be surprised if the Evans/Machida match had it's slow moments when both fighters just evade. I do think if he's pressed to strike he can actually do something though.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:21
This does give me more respect for James Irvin. Sure Silva put his fist through Irvins head, but Irvin was not in the least bit a bitch.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:24
Silva can come out and do a juggling act while singing "She'll be coming around the mountain" if he wants. If his opponents can't beat Silva when he is goofing off, then that says something about his opponents. At this point Silva is just making his own challenges, like taking a fight to the 5th round. You won't see him be serious until a serious opponent steps up to the plate.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:25
If anyone didn't perform his job it was the CHALLENGER. Where the fuck was the CHALLENGE?
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:26
Looking at all this whining and complaining, it is obvious that MMA has a far larger female viewing audience than anyone had previously known. Even cagepotato seems to be run by a bunch of hormonal, hen pecking miserable women. Get your dildo out, give yourselves a good reaming ladies, and shut the fuck up and get over yourselves. Bunch of moaning cunts you are.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:27
Anonymous, Your just a MMA Know it all, huh. You invented the sport huh? So when the president of the UFC said it sucked ass, that was his PR??? Know, he calls it like he sees it. Affliction would have went to their grave talking about how great the fight was. I have eyes and I knows what I likes. And I did not like 3:40 seconds gone in the first round before any action even kind of began to take place. Not for my money anyway. Did Rogan and Goldie not say 4 times each, now they are ready during the first 4 minutes of the 1st round? Yeah, great fight and Silva should be cheered from the roof tops. How bout a muay tai clinch and Knees to the face. If Franklin could not get out, that pretend MMA fighter Leites could not either.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:30
Yeah nevermind the best mma production Boss saying the fight sucked. Yeah. The one guy who wants nothing more than to say how great it was is apologizing. And you blind dipshits defend to the end. It's called a fight, not a Watoosi.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:36
If it is a fight, they should have hired 2 fighters. It's not Silva's fault that others are so far behind. It's like he's back at school bullying kids 5 years younger. It takes two to dance. If you suck, don't blame the teacher.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:48
Andres dong, stop crying and whining. Even tho you say you are a cock, you complain like a gigantic, bloody vagina. Go watch sex in the city, buy some shoes, or whatever else it is you ladies do to make yourselves feel better.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:51
Big surprise: the apologists are out in full force. If the fucking president of the UFC--who is normally riding Silva's cock--can admit that was a garbage effort from Anderson, surely you can too.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 02:59
To me...I look at it from Anderson Silva's (probable) perspective. Leites came in, and Silva figured from the first round that this was going to be a joke. Instead of beating his brain in, (you know, brain injuries and stuff) he figured he'd put on a show, that Leites managed to make boring, unfortunately. I can't get over people talking like stupid bumpkin hicks, "He should've knocked the cnut out!" You're no hero if you know you can beat a young fighter easily, and decide to beat his brain in, especially someone with a lack of wins over big names. Hell, doing what Silva did even makes you a bit of a hero, he could have pounded him out, but instead decided to give Leites' head a break. Perhaps Silva thought there was a (nano-sized) possibility for some crazy submission from Leites... as to why he kept some distance. What I have learned though, is Silva is a little bitch not wanting to deviate from his 'non-initiatiion of contact' before he starts to throw back. - I'm sure people next in line are watching carefully. -*This last paragraph is not Silva's perspective* ha.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:02
Difference is DW is a business man. Silva is a fighter. I recall watching liddel siding with Silva. No wonder! Liddel is a fighter as well.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:08
Something is wrong here people. The belt belongs to Silva. Some guys say they want it. They say they'll fight for it. Neither Cote nor Leites fought worth a damn and they WANT the belt?! And somehow it's Silva's fault for not attacking? If the belt belonged to Leites and Silva was the CHALLEGER is there a doubt in anyone's mind that he would DESTROY Leites? geez
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:15
My problem is the shit he pulled. Feinting punches, never taking advantages of openings. He did the bare ass minimum to win and you fags are ok with it. Harry Pusso, Go lick Silva's nuts a little more. I am suprised you could even see the TV with you head so far up your own ass. Call Guiness. I think you have the record. Never mind the President of the UFC. Never mind the crowd. Never mind the sports writers. No. The authority on what every one should cheer for is on Cage Potato posts. Please tell us Harry Obama. How should we think. I guess you are a jedi and can just wave your hand and say, "The fight didn't suck." And we are supposed to say, "The fight didn't suck." Even so, you are still stupid as shit.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:27
Silva is champ. Silva is undefeated. Silva defended his belt just fine. So many whiners wanted Silva to attack Leites? Silva's job was/is to defend his title. Not to attack random contenders.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:27
I wanna see this bitch silva put in his place. YOUR A CHAMPION SO FUCKING FIGHT LIKE ONE!!!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:28
Silva is also gonna be not headlining anymore.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:30
That may well be. He was ready to retire, remember? Maybe he got bored of all the whiners?
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:32
I meant fighters, excuse me.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:33
Is Silva not smart enough to realize he is making a joke of the UFC by pulling jabbing thighs and feet and those twirly little kicks? As a champion, even if you are bored and you know the other guy is outclassed, at least pretend like a fight is going on, don't fuck around and disgrace your boss and your company.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:39
This fight brought to you by "Fighting". That sorry ass pathetic excuse for a movie was probably embarassed to be associated with that fucking joke of a fight last night.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:42
Cote? oh really? Leites? huh? Who the fuck puts up these fights anyway? I'm sure what Silva wants the most is a fighter at his level just so he can display his full potential. You get better when you encounter others at/above your level. Why would you want to destroy others clearly inferior in skill to you? For the entertainment of and audience? Fuck that. Silva's is still a human being and he still has his self-respect.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 03:54
styles make fights, right? We've all fucking said it. This fight needs to be blamed more on JOE Silva, not ANDERSON Silva! The classic "striker vs. grappler" matchup is more often than not a nightmare. Each fighter tries desperately to keep the fight in his realm. Silva absolutely destroyed leites last night. I certainly would have preferred a knockout, but goddamn. what you stupid douches don't realize is that *anyone* can get ktfo if they walk into a punch they don't see. With leites, you can easily get subbed tfo if you're not careful. Silva engaged, Leites flopped. It's Leites who should be ashamed, who should be apologizing to dana white. Seriously? Leites is all they have? Listen, if you start with a bullshit matchup, you'll get a bullshit fight. Every. Single. Fucking. Time.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:05
i wouldnt blame thales for how shitty tis fight was silva is by far the more superior striker so it dosent mke sence for him to chase anderson around anderson sould of actually tried throwing strikes that had a chance at finishing the fight it was pretty clear that thales wasnt gunna take anderson down all that easy so i dont see y he needed to fight the way he did gsp will kick his ass i dont think that punching gsp in the leg is going to be very effective so anderson can suck my balls and take a lesson from chuck chuck couldnt afford to lose but he was stll in there fighting not just trying to win a point fight
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:19
YO DANA Jazzercise boy.......I think I woould rather pay for a legends Don Frye fight than the crap you an Silva put on last night.... You should be ashamed....!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:28
Silva is the MAN!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:33
CHARLIE HORSE!!!1
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:34
Silva can do what he wants. He is only costing himself his Reputation. I would rather lose being a warior than win beaing a show ass no fighting bitch. Giving the middle finger to the crowd is not the way to sell fights. That is why Silva gets paid. I guarantee Dana recognizes that. Even though some of you know it alls think technique and winning is more important than style and entertainment, it is the style and entertainment that keeps us coming back. Some people still go see Ruch in concert. Nevermind they suck ass and there following has died. Just like the Silva's fan base. i
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:42
Did you just make a Rush analogy? That's undeniably the dumbest thing I've ever read on the Internet. Well, it would be except that i also just read that someone would rather lose than bore a bunch of drunk Canadians. Listen, EVERYONE hates Lyoto Machida, but he's getting paid. Tank Abbot? he's throwing for the fences every time he gets in the cage. Where is he? Kimbo Slice? James Thompson? These are guys who go balls out and swing for the fences and get fucked up more ofter than not. Sadly, for the last five fights, you can add Chuck Liddell to that list. I love Chuck, I'm a huge fan, but for him it's all over but the crying. Thalas is a punk. Anyone who disrespects BJJ in that manner should be ashamed. Flopping to the ground? afraid of his opponent? c'mon, man, it's a fight!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:42
A fucking moron tries to bumrush a fucking Bjj world champion! One misplaced legkick and he is taken down... First round with the feeling out process is gettin a little annoying thou..
Sun, 04/19/09 - 04:47
Ok it wasn't the most exciting fight, but it is Silva's belt anyone challenging for it should take it from him. Why should he be put in harms way if a guy wants to lay on his back. It would be stupid for him to fight his opponents fight. Would you risk your job? What did Silva do to get his belt....straight Murdered Franklin! Say what you want but he played it smart. Now on the other hand you have Fedor. Fedor would have figured out a way to beat his opponent. He just does. A great example is Fedor vs Hong Man Choi no wear as near as well rounded but still difficult to fight. Its simply choice what type of champion do you like? A cold calculated technician or a crushing beast who walks through people?
Sun, 04/19/09 - 05:10
If I want to be boored, I will watch Baseball.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 05:25
snoring
Sun, 04/19/09 - 05:25
What is all this talk about having to change your tactic just because its a title fight. And the challenger having to "take" the belt from the champion. Do the judges jusge the fight on a different criteria on a title fight?? The answer is no. All this talk about having to take the belt is garbage
Sun, 04/19/09 - 05:26
What if every fighter fought like Anderson did last night? The UFC would be dead and gone. If you want a point match (that would be more exciting), go watch Danielsan "fight" Johnny in the All Valley Tournament in the first Karate Kid. I prefer hard fought decision fights over fast, one sided KOs.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 05:26
homoz
Sun, 04/19/09 - 05:27
Thank you War
Sun, 04/19/09 - 05:59
It's not Silva's job to determine how much he wants to fight whoever he's facing. He was the headliner of another sellout [record] pay-per-view and should be ashamed of yet another piss poor performance. He gets paid to fight, so fight. Everyone's on Leites' shit for being on the ground and being "afraid" of Silva - who I don't even think punches that hard. So apparently Silva was afraid to get on the ground. He could have gone for any number of top positions and he refused, likely because he's a one dimensional Chuck Liddell-style fighter and knows he'd get his ass kicked in anything but a striking match. I'm glad he did what he did, though. It'll force the company to think twice about making him another headliner. He's a bore and doesn't belong there. Some of the guys on the undercards are hungrier and more fun to watch. Fuck the title. I like watching good fights and Silva doesn't produce those. Tell him to keep the belt and stay home. And how about bothering to learn at least a few words in English, you fucking 8 ball.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 06:11
ITS PLAIN AND SIMPLE TO SEE THAT ANDERSON SILVA IS NOT MUCH OF A TRUE CHAMPION. TRUE CHAMPIONS WILL TAKE THE FIGHT TO ANYONE REGUARDLESS. BROCK LESNAR IS A TRUE CHAMPION WHO WILL TAKE THE FIGHTS TO ANYBODY THAT STEPS IN FRONT OF HIM. YOU CAN BET YOUR ASS THAT ITS GOING TO BE THE SAME WAY EVEN AFTER HE HAS WON THE HW BELT. ANOTHER ONE YOU CAN BANK ON TAKING THE FIGHT RIGHT AWAY WILL BE RASHAD EVANS WHOM I REALLY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT BUT HE IS SO GOOD AT WHAT HE DOES. THOSE TO WILL BE THE ONES TO DO THEIR PART IN KEEPING THE UFC INTERESTING. RIGHT ALONG WITH FRANK MIR, AND A FEW OTHERS THAT US FANS CAN SURELY COUNT ON TO ENTERTAIN US, AND GIVE US OUR MONEY'S WORTH. ANDERSON SILVA IS JUST NOT HOLDING UP ON HIS END OF THE DEAL. THATS THAT, AND IF YOU MOTHER FUCKERS DON'T WANT TO FACE THE TRUTH ABOUT EVERYTHING I JUST SAID THEN THATS YOUR OWN STUPIDITY. YOU CAN GO FUCK YOURSELF, AND KEEP CRYING ABOUT HOW DOMINANT ANDERSON IS AND THIS AND THAT. WHATEVER, FUCK YOU, AND SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 06:17
Anderson Silva needs to fight with his hands up.. One of these days he us going to get knocked the fuck out roy jones style
Sun, 04/19/09 - 06:18
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Sun, 04/19/09 - 06:19
Silva was getting pissed cause he was trying to get him on the ground and Silva is obvious scared of that.. I remember back in the day when people went to the mat on the Axe murderer, he would stomp the shit out of him.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 06:36
Silva pwns ALL
Sun, 04/19/09 - 06:38
Who sneezed in the buffet?
Sun, 04/19/09 - 06:38
It was me.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 06:41
Consider this: Do we boo NFL teams on week 17 when they rest their top players? Do we boo our teams in the 4th quater of a basketball game when they rest their star players? Do we boo our teams when they don't drive up the score? No... because they have done enough to win and they don't want to risk injury. Why should Silva risk more than he needs to? He'd be risking loss and injury by exerting more pressure than necessary. He did what was needed to win. Leites did not do his part of the job and as such, did not win the title. LH
Sun, 04/19/09 - 06:56
@ Landon Dead on right. It wasn't exciting, sure. The judges don't score for excitement as a criteria to win fights. Why risk injury on the guy who probably doesn't deserve to be there? Leites squeaks by Nate the Great by a prayer and a wish-upon-a-fucking-star but even Anderson knew that Leites couldn't hang with him. Put Anderson up against the best and he won't waste our time or his. The best deserve to fight the best, and I'll guaran-goddamn-tee that he won't dick around fighting against Nate II, Hendo II, Okami, or Maia. Anderson isn't an entertainer; he's a fighter. He won that fight, hands down. You want sports-entertainment then watch Brock Lesnar's former employer.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 06:57
Landon, I have to disagree. Making quick work of the other fellow is a better way of avoiding injury. Kicking and punching the other guy's feet, knees, and shins for five rounds leaves you open to greater risk of injury. Also, last night can't be compared to week 17 of the NFL. Last night WAS the championship. Football teams rest players BEFORE making a championship run. Every second in the octagon with a professional fighter, overmatched or not, brings the risk of bad shit happening. Last night was the equivalent of a football team running the clock out in the first quarter. Everyone would boo that too.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 06:58
I think Thales fought a smart fight.If Silva is such a badass champion why didn't he come down to the ground with Thales and finish the fight.Everybody is bitching about Thales laying on his back but nobody is sayin shit about how Silva wouldn't come into Thales's world.atleast Thales stood up and fought him.I agree Thales should have quit falling on his back when he seen it wasn't gonna get Silva down there.He clearly had to know that wasn't gonna take it from the champ.He did indeed go the distance with a guy who was suppose to demolish him.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:04
Last night was like division 1 team takes on division 55 team. Of course Silva could have ended it but he showed respect for a grossly under skilled Leites. It's not like they're scoring goals over there. dumb match up to begin with anyway
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:06
Henderson fought him and lost. Although I wouldn't mnd seeing a rematch.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:06
Most people go down AFTER being hit. Thales got it the other way around lol
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:10
Glad I didn't waste money on the PPV this month. If I want to see a clown I'll go to a circus. And if I want to see to guys dance I'll go to a bar.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:10
Look if I'm Joe Silva and actually put this fight together I'm fucking pissed off like nobody's business. Leites' job is to fight and it's called MIXED Martial Arts for a reason. This is not fucking a BJJ tourney and if that's all you got in your stable then fuck off. Anderson is a well rounded fighter in Muay Thai, BJJ and can hold his own on the ground so if I'm him, I'm PO'd that they put some schmuck in front of me that pulls guard everytime I press fwd. The only thing that can be done now is, assuming GSP, successfully defends his title, is to do a superbout btwn the 2. That way you'll actually have a fighter push Anderson and not just stand there and look confused for 5 rounds cause Anderson won't let him put him in his guard.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:12
This is all bullshit! JOE SILVA should be made to fight for his job. If you aren't able to put together competitive fights maybe someone else can.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:19
They should put Joe vs Anderson. I'm pretty sure it would be a 1 hit KO fight. Only the ref would "be distracted" with something and forget to stop the fight. 10 minutes later Silva would be announced victor. I'd pay for that.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:21
@ Purple I seem what you mean and I like your argument re last week prepping for the championship game. I guess I can say that it's still the same as the last quarter of a championship game when a team runs the clock. Silva is well aware that he was ahead and shouldn't have risked anything beyond what he felt was required. In regards to which is the safer method... I also can see it your way regarding a fast ending would be less risky... however if he felt keeping distance was safer avenue then that's how he avoided injury. Perhaps he thought in rushing in he would be caught by a quick shot or taken down so he was more comfortable keep Leites in a distance where he had the reach advantage. Again I'm not promoting this style and technique however if it works then I'd still appreciate his efforts. I am a big If he had ran into the 5th round and got caught by a quick KO punch we'd be calling him stupid today instead of booing his fight. At the end of the day I just think that his job was to retain the title and that's what he did. Leites' job was to take the title and he fell short. I can totally understand why people are upset... but just think it's a bit overboard =)
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:28
ALL OF YOU PLEASE JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. IT FUCKING SUCKED AND THATS THAT. STOP SUCKIN ON EXCUSES, AND GO TO BED FOR GOODNESS SAKE. TRY AGAIN ON ANOTHER TOPIC TOMORROW.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:30
I don't think the boos coming from the Bell Centre was wrong, contrary to what Joe Rogan thinks. Every sport has their casual fans, and hardcore fans. I wouldn't consider myself a hardcore fan, I am not that knowledgable, but I agree with Joe when he says that Andersen Silva should be focused on winning the fight, and nothing else. The pressure should have been on Thales Leites to engage the fight, he was the one behind on the cards. I could somewhat see him pushing late in the 5th round, but by then, Silva had already demolished his legs. Silva is known for a counter puncher, everyone knows that now, and everyone is scared to test those boundaries. Silva needs to fight fighters who are not afraid of him. Thales Leites was horrified of Silva, wanting to touch gloves with him everytime he got dominated. Rich Franklin is no where near Silva's level, but at least he is not afraid of him. Look at all the fights between Silva and a fearless man, great fights. Cote and Leites, they are afraid of Silva.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:35
What's up, HAL? I see you've been straightening shit out around here recently and you don't appear to need my help. Another war would be entertaining, but first you'd have to say something I disagree with. I think you've been throwing it down the middle here recently. And I find that all the same people have all the same opinions on everything here all the time. And all it takes is one guy to make a point and the rest of the internet flames him for it. For example: "I think Leites has a good chance on the ground Saturday." "Oh yeah? Well you suck cock and love taking man chowder on the face you fucking homo. Go butt fuck your dad some more." Love the "Little Brock". I may use it. Thanks. And keep ripping asses. We have a lot of newbies on here and they cheer for the coolest t-shirt of entrance music.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:37
or entrance music, not of...
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:41
I'm not sure why people just go on a swearing tirade on a "discussion board/forum." However other than Purp, the only other responses I've received involve a list of profanities =)
Sun, 04/19/09 - 07:44
SILVA IS A FUCKING UNDEFEATED CHAMPION WITH MANY OF THE BEST STRIKING U GUYS EVER SEEM.HE GOT GREAT BJJ AND SUBMITED TRAVIS LUTER. BUT I THINK HES ALSO SMART ENOUGH TO DONT JUMP INTO SOME BJJ CHAMPION GUARD WHILE DEFENDING THE BELT JUST TO MAKE SOME OF U UNEDUCATED MMACRYBABIES HAPPY.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 08:01
leites wasnt scared shitless he was being smart trying to get him to the ground. anderson silva sucks and is way over rated i have always thought that, and he should have got dq'd for those kicks to the knees seeing as they are illegal
Sun, 04/19/09 - 08:15
leites was scared
Sun, 04/19/09 - 08:36
Why when Lietes does not want to run after a retreating counter puncher and get his head staved in is he a bitch, but when Silva wont "jump" into a BJJ world champions guard is he fighting a smart fight. Both of them came into the fight unwilling to engage and both looked retarded because of it. When Kalib Starnes ran away for 3 rounds he was a bitch. When Anderson Silva does it he is a technical elusive counter puncher. A champion in MIXED martial arts should be able to take the fight where ever it goes. Both fighters proved last night that they did not deserve to be champion. When Anderson Silva fought a severly out matched Leben he went after him and destroyed him. That is what a champion does. Silva is fighting Silvia trying not to lose his belt. Like Silvia a champion from a lighter division is going to get tired of his games and come up in weight to expose him!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 08:46
looks like MW has no challenge left in it for silva. he should go to LHW. i think after one or two more title defenses it would be cool to see GSP fight up into MW or least fight silva, that would be cool. but i think GSP still has a bit of arse to kick in the WW division before he can claim he owns that division with the same sort of authority that silva does. silva doesnt even have to fight his opponents to beat them. silva for LHW!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 08:54
It would suck to only have fair-weather fans...
Sun, 04/19/09 - 09:17
It's like Royce said: Dis my house, I build it.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 09:19
I just woke up from his 5 round dance-a-thon. Wtf is Anderson doing it felt like I was watching some sparring match just let him up so you can dance around some more. This fight made the Cote one look action packed. Liddell might have gotten beat but at least he tries to KO mofos and not worrying about taking no damage from a opponent who isn't on the same level as you. Put Anderson in there vs any 8year old and I bet we see the same fight.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 09:28
LOL PRODIGY ....u really think he ran away for 3 rounds. wtf fight did u watch. Oh and BTW he was in Leites guard and Leites couldnt do shit.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 09:31
It is fine if it was on HDNET but I paid for it and feel let down. Twice in a row with this guy. We were arguing over who would lose and we found out, it was us. All I have to say to you guys screaming technique and Silva fought a good fight, explain to me why it took 4 minutes of the first to even get a drippage of action? Just bull shit. I bet if you guys were in the crowd and watching the two guys in the ring doing less than you in the crowd, you'd be pissed.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 09:39
Even Shamrock performed better than the fucking monkey silva, when he fought diaz.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 09:41
And yea GSP would destroy Silva, GSP is a fighter, he takes the fight to you, wherever you go. Silva is a dancer; "Sorry I dun no diz dance.".
Sun, 04/19/09 - 09:52
Not Silva's fault to be so god damn good at defending his belt. Hell if I was his opponent I would go all out because the only thing I would have on my mind is winning the TITLE not crawl around and wait for the defender to give me the title.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:27
how can you even compare mr GSP i get knocked out by midgets to Silva?.....People are hating on him cause hes so Good. There's a reason why he has the record for defending his title.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:31
I'm blown away by any criticism Silva is taking on this one. As soon as he realized Leites was going to "flop guard" everytime there was an exchange, he went after him even harder. He tried to embarass Leites out of his strategy in order to make the fight happen. Every time Leites flopped he stood over him with his hands on his hips shaking his head. He punched the man in the foot for God's sake. Thiago conceded the match in the second and decided that he would try and save face by not being knocked out. If Thiago had acted like a proper underdog (in the biggest fight of his career) and stood in there swinging for the fence then he would have been knocked out cold. But that's what he should have done. He should face the same scorn heaped on Kalib Starnes.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:31
wow Silva isnt a fighter? go step in the ring with him and lets hear you say that after you get your face caved in.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 10:43
On a side note, and this might seem like bullshit; but I once fought Anderson Silva in a Sao Paulo samba bar. It was apparently over the honor of a woman. He landed a couple of quick thigh punches, so I flopped guard, but then he began raining ferocious blows down upon me with a bar stool. I began to tap against the high heeled shoe of a woman who had sidled up to the bar to watch the fight (she claiming something about being the victim of an "upskirt" photo), but Mr. Silva must not have seen it. I was beaten most unmerciful.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:03
"Do we boo our teams in the 4th quater of a basketball game when they rest their star players?" A terrible analogy. Anderson was more like a team that benches its best players from minute 1 of the first quarter -- after benching its best players throughout the entire previous game as well.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:21
@ Doof But still wins both games.
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:53
Goddamn, that was one of the most lackluster fights I've ever seen since Arlovski-Sylvia 3. I understand where a lot of these people are coming from about how Silva wasn't about to go get hurt and how Leites was the challenger that wasn't doing any sort of challenging. But, I also think that Anderson had PLENTY of chances to just pound Leites and come out with minimal damage, if any at all. I think a champion deserves every right to defend and not have to just try to destroy the opponent, but come the fuck on. Be entertaining. And not the kind of entertaining that involves weird-ass twitch-dancing (that was pretty funny). Can anyone give me a fight that Fedor has been boring in ever since he whooped Nogueira? Off-topic, I'm glad Shogun won, but sad that Chuck is done. That camera shot after the card was CLASSIC when it showed Chuck all disappointed and Rua is behind him talking on the jumboscreen. LOL!
Sun, 04/19/09 - 11:54
Hard to believe the writers on this website; I agree with previous posters, you guys have generally given witty and educated perspective in the past, but are way off here. You're seriously shitting the bed it's pretty annoying to read. Give your head's a shake and stop acting like drunken fans booing a technical fight. What's next? How boring BJJ is, and how it's ruining mma?
Mon, 04/20/09 - 02:29
Chet the jet Chet the jet Chet the jet Chet the jet
Mon, 04/20/09 - 02:58
I cant believe Silva is taking this much shit after that fight, yes the first round was a bit of a joke for both fighters. But the rest of the fight Silva was easily the better fighter everyone saw it and the 2 fighters could see it aswell. Why should he have to risk his win and his belt just to please some blood hungry muppets, of which i didnt expect the CP writers to be in agreement with.
Mon, 04/20/09 - 02:59
You could tell, in what the third round that Anderson was pissed because that side kick to the knee was intended to brake his leg...Hasn’t anyone on these forums ever played sports you usually play up to the competition …He had none!!!!! It’s hard to do moves when the guy is doing nothing. A person with a game plan is setting things up…Leites wasn’t doing anything but trying not to be hit..Anderson was pissed that u can see but you play to the competition. Diana needs to be pissed that he sent a boy out to face a man what did he expect!!!!!
Mon, 04/20/09 - 04:26
Not anderson fault for this one. Leithes wasnt ready for the title shot. For the Cote fight I'll blame it on Silva though..... Coté was walking forward the whole match and was clearly not affraid of a punch, he was just unable to set up a punch because Silva was not engaging..
Mon, 04/20/09 - 05:04
Silva absolutely dominated this fight...and deserves absolutely no criticism. Back floppers should stay in the pool, not in a championship fight. All dissatisfaction should be put upon Leites who was an absolute joke.
Mon, 04/20/09 - 05:35
What pisses me off is this site downing Silva for what was an absolutely dominant performance. Sure he did some dancing, and sure he did some funny things attacking the front leg of Thales Leites but lets fucking face it, when Lyoto Machida did this shit you guys called him "skillful, and elusive". When Anderson Silva does it, you say it's boring? You guys are fucking hypocrits. Anderson Silva DOMINATED EVERY EXCHANGE from that fight. He controlled the pace, the octagon, and Thales Leites. The fact that you guys are blasting him for fighting a perfect fight doesn't make any fucking sense to me and for that you lose 2 of my wholly intangible points.
Mon, 04/20/09 - 05:59
Perhaps Anderson didn't want to hurt Thales. They are both Brazilian and he just wanted to be a nice guy and not kill him. Or perhaps he doesn't care about the UFC or fighting and likes the get paid to screw around for 25 minutes. Remember a couple of months ago when Anderson said he would quit after about 5 more fights and Dana said no way. Maybe he is just fucking with Dana.
Mon, 04/20/09 - 06:15
Anderson should have dropped him to all fours and plugged his glory hole. I love gay sex.
Mon, 04/20/09 - 08:59
STOP PRETENDING TO BE ME, YOU CANT BE THIS COOL! i LOVE BIG COCKS AND BALLS THE SIZE OF DINNER PLATES!
Mon, 04/20/09 - 01:45
@ C-Bus Allstar I completely agree with you on the hypocrite bullshit with Machida and Silva, and agree that Silva ran that fight. But, Machida and Silva's last two fights have been fucking boring nonetheless.
Tue, 04/21/09 - 03:18
@ "Me" I guess that sentence can be read in different ways so even though you read it the wrong way you're still technically right about the Ben's never saying that he did. About everyone disagreeing with me... Wow, really? My excuse for bad grammar, spelling etc is the fact that english isn't my native language. I don't know what your excuse is and I don't really care to be honest.
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