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Demian Maia vs. Nate Marquardt at UFC 102 in August

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Demian Maia’s camp may have been expecting a middleweight title shot in August, but instead they’re getting what can only be considered a number one contender match with Nate Marquardt.  Maia confirmed the news on his official website, saying the fight is on for UFC 102 in Portland, Oregon.  Obviously it’s one hell of an interesting bout on paper, but the timing of this announcement begs the question, did Anderson Silva screw Maia out of a title shot with his performance against Thales Leites at UFC 97?


The answer is, pretty much.  Had Silva gone out and looked like “The Spider” of old against Leites, the UFC probably would not have turned right around matched him against a former light heavyweight champ just a few months later, because they wouldn’t have needed to.  If they felt like he was still a draw in a regular old title defense in his own weight class, Maia’s chances of getting that shot would probably have been much better.  The only other reasonable choice would have been Marquardt, but he already had his chance and it wasn’t exactly the kind of fight that screamed out for a rematch.

Instead, the Silva/Leites snoozefest embarrasses Dana White and the UFC goes into crisis control mode to force Silva to do something interesting, and in the meantime Maia might as well take on Marquardt to decide who really deserves to be the top middleweight contender.

The good news for fans is, it’s a great fight.  Maia vs. Marquardt makes great sense for the middleweight class, which has lacked a strong, undeniable top contender lately, and it’s an interesting clash of styles.  You could make a case for either one of these guys being deserving of a shot right now.  Whoever emerges from this matchup, you won’t even have to make the case for them.  Meanwhile, Silva fights Griffin in a crazy superfight, and the UFC has a great summer on its hands.  Everybody wins.


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Do you actually realize the diarrhea spewing from your mouth- June 24, 2009 at 2:09 am
Okay...okay. Listen, i don't usually get on these boards and spew a bunch of uneducated and unresearched rhetoric or opinions. I am usually just thoroughly (that's how it's spelled, Ryan MeLady Says, I GUARANTEE it) amused and entertained at the macho posturing and asinine comments and predictions made on this board as well as on Sherdog. After reading this, though, I just had to throw my two cents in.

First off, I have a background in Kodokan Judo and Gracie Jiu-Jitsu and have briefly trained under Carlson Gracie, Jr., have rolled with Vitor Belfort, discussed a possible career in MMA with former UFC commissioner Art Davie and actually participated in one competitive tournament match (against a very solid and regionally known BJJ practicioner which I controlled for over 14 minutes before dropping my neck too low and submitting to a tight and quickly applied side guillotine). I am not telling you this to brag about toughness. I am sure there are probably people who have responded to this thread tougher than me. I am merely letting you know that I have some degree of first hand knowledge with this sport.

The main point I am trying to make is many people who are somewhat uneducated on the subject really underestimate the importance of a solid (or in Demian Maia's case, nearly flawless) ground game. With my background, I may be somewhat biased but I have a keen appreciation and understanding of just what that brings to the table. I also realize that Nate Marquardt is very well rounded with a background in wrestling as well as Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu so he is no slouch on the ground as well but in today's MMA world Maia's jiu-jitsu skills are pretty much unparalleled.

Now, here comes a little bravado on my part. Since it would seem most of the people who have responded to this thread are of the opinion that Nate The Great is going to "destroy" and essentially steamroll Demian Maia, why doesn't anyone within this thread who isn't a welch put your money where your mouth is. I propose if you are so sure and you don't mind paying up when you lose the bet to wager a gentlemanly sum of $5 per person. I figure when Maia wins and providing everyone pays up I will be about $100 richer when things are all said and done. Of course, if I lose the bet 20 or so people will be $5 richer because I will pay up courtesy of the United States Postal Service (and if you live in my city I will hand deliver the cash to you) although I anticipate being right around $100 wealthier when all is said and done. I am beyond serious about this. I am supremely confident in the superior ground skills of Demian Maia. Are you equally as confident in Nate Marquardt?
Anonymous- May 5, 2009 at 4:19 am
cant say who'll win, but either way this fight isn't going to a decision. either nate by tko or maia but triangle choke.
Anonymous- April 30, 2009 at 8:45 pm
ok.... sooo the winner of bisping/henderson vs winner of maia/marquart = title shot in late 09/early 10
Dana's Accountant- April 30, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Just get the PPV, bitches.
Ample- April 30, 2009 at 10:32 am
Maia VS Marquardt....fuck yah. Maia is gonna take that fight but it wont be easy.
CAPS DECAPITATOR- April 30, 2009 at 10:28 am
I swear to christ Caps, if you leave one more god damned post on here i will cut all you fingers off and shove them up your god damn vuh-jay-jay.

LoneWolf- April 30, 2009 at 9:34 am
This is Awesome!
doctor satan- April 30, 2009 at 8:27 am
come on nate
k- April 30, 2009 at 7:31 am
Maia may have been screwed out of a title shot, but on the other hand, if he can't get past Nate, he certainly isn't ready for Silva. I have no idea who to pick in this fight. Maia's submissions are better, but Marquardt is an accomplished grappler and black belt, himself. Plus, he's one of the biggest, strongest 185ers on the planet.
Dapper- April 30, 2009 at 7:05 am
I'm going with Maia but it's going to be a hell of a fight. Nate's a big 185 er and he's going to bring it to him. August is going to be a great month of fights!!
Wildcard- April 30, 2009 at 6:17 am
Nate has a tendency of being cocky and leaving his neck out there Maia via Guillotine Rd 1 when nate attempts a take down
Torque- April 30, 2009 at 6:08 am
I personally love the idea of this fight taking place! It's finally about time that Maia and Marquardt square off. If Nate shows up, in shape and fighting like he did in his last fight, then I have to think that Nate will hand Maia a loss. I pick, Marquardt wins by decision. While not the most exciting outcome of a fight, I think that Maia's Jitz skills are way strong enough to force the bout into 3 rounds. Unless Marquardt can catch him in one of is Unholy flurry of fury punches!

Now...in my own personal opinion, I would like to see the UFC institute a true number 1 contender, tournament style series of fights in several of their "action dormant" weight classes. In example: Maia vs. Marquardt, then the winner of Bisping vs. Hendo to fight Yushin Okami. Then the 2 winners of those bouts fight eachother to determine the true #1 contender. Not only would it force the top talent to come to the front, it would provide at least a couple of killer PPV headlining bouts.
TeeReks- April 30, 2009 at 5:50 am
Maia is going to be destroyed. It won't even be competitive for Marquardt.
Goog- April 30, 2009 at 5:36 am
Anderson Silva, to me, has become like Mel Gibson. Mel's a great actor and has kicked ass in the past. And every once in a while, he still makes a headline. Unfortunately, it has nothing to do with acting. DUI's, infidelity and anti-semitic rants? Check. You still talk about him, but not because you want to.

I think the UFC is screwed because Silva has a belt at the moment. Sure... go ahead and move him up to another 205 fight, but it only solves one issue and that's maybe forcing him to at least defend himself in the cage. But here's my problem... If he loses to Forrest, everyone will talk about how brave it was for him to move up into a class he "doesn't belong in" because he just wants to fight the best. Bullshit. This is the pussy way of doing it. I'd make him fight every motherfucker in the 185 division and stop screwing other good guys out of their shot. It's another repeat of BJ Penn making the other contenders sit around waiting to see how the little prick is gonna be pacified. And if Forrest loses, it'll just be amplified by the fact that it was to a middleweight. "Oh, no. Forrest lost two in a row. Maybe he should pack it in. Is he the new gatekeeper? This former champ can't string together any wins. What's up, Opie? No more heart?" Not to mention the unnecessary "OMG, Silva could kill all the LHW's" bullshit it would spur. I don't see an upside to this fight as far as the results are concerned. Sure, it'll sell tickets, but it does nothing for the rankings in either division to help solve the big problem... how do you get the belt away from Silva without just pretending to pose for a picture with it and running away? So what's after this? Another "superfight"? Man that term is being thrown around pretty loosely these days.

Fuck you, Silva. You're an employee and here's other news: You can't fucking draw. The "best P4P in the world" can't sell tickets. Either get that giant bulbous head out of your ass and do your job in 185 or be a man and give it up and go to the 205 where they can *yawn* maybe find you a worthy opponent. I personally hope you get KTFO. Either way, I'm enjoying the negative publicity you've brought on yourself. If I'm forced to hear about you, at least it's bad.
Clyde- April 30, 2009 at 5:13 am
I think Okami Vs Marquardt is the better fight for a number 1 contenders spot; Maia is great but still too limited. I think he'll have a lot of trouble getting nate down and would have to be incredibly lucky to win on the feet. Insanely lucky.

I hope he gets his shot eventually though as he's makes jiu jitsu look so easy that I almost hate the guy.
VEe_ScritchandScratch- April 30, 2009 at 12:58 am
"did Anderson Silva screw Maia out of a title shot with his performance against Thales Leites at UFC 97?"

Are we still blaming Silva? I guess everybody is entitled to their opinion and their own twist into the thought process behind making Griffin vs Silva happen. Maybe the UFC brass are looking for a sure-shot challenger that will press the action against Anderson Silva. While Leites looked good against McFedries(?) and Marquardt, his performance against Silva also embarrassed Dana White. So, I'm sure Joe Silva and White are looking for an opponent that will push the action and force Silva to do something interesting. After all, White did cite a number of the things Silva did in the cage against Leites.

Feel sorry for Yushin Okami, his last fight was boring because his opponent refused to engage and flopped to the floor.

Okami vs Marquardt?
RED- April 29, 2009 at 11:44 pm
The winner of this fight will be sitting on the sidelines for a bit if winner of Bisping/Hendo gets Silva. It'd be be 105-106 by the time Silva can fight again, then possibly another 3-4 months before the winner of this fight gets a shot. So we'd be looking at possibly the New Years card.
CAPS LOCK HAL,- April 29, 2009 at 11:08 pm
FUCKING SHIT. I AM SO FUCKING AMUZED TO SEE ALL OF YOU MOTHERFUCKING RETARDS CAPS LOCK HAL WANNABYS, YOU FUCKING SUCK. YOU ARE NOWHERE NEAR MY FUCKING LEVEL, JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES WORTHLESS FUCKING NERDS. DAMN IT FUCKING SHIT, I WISH I COULD GET MY HANDS ON YOU SKINNY FOUREYED BITCHES. I WOULD FUCKING RIP YOU GOD DAMNED HEADS OFF. YOU ARE TRYING TO BE LIKE ME BUT YOU FAIL EVERY MOTHERFUCKING TIME BECAUSE I AM THE MOST AWESOME USER ON THIS MOTHERFUCKING WEBSITE AND I GOT THE MOST FUCKING MMA KNOWLEDGE, YOU FAGGETS DON'T KNOW SHIT. ALL YOUR FUCKING STUPID OPPINIONS DON'T MEAN SHIT, THEY ARE FUCKING WORTHLESS JUST LIKE YOU ARE, YOU FUCKING CUNTS. ALL I SAY IS TRUE AND I SAY THAT JUNNY BROWNING IS THE BEST MOTHERFUCKING FIGHTER IN THE WHOLE DAMN UFC, EVEN DANA FUCKING WHITE KNOWS THAT. WHEN ME AND MY DAD HAL SENIOR WATCH UFC, WE ALWAYS KNOW WHO IS THE BEST MOTHERFUCKING FIGHTER, AND WE KNOW ITS JUNNY BROWNING. HE WILL OWN THE 155 DEVISION, YOU WILL SEE YOU FUCKING TURDS, FUCK YOU HARD. I LOVE JUNNY, I WOULD SUCK HIS COCK IF I COULD, BUT THEN TUF GUY WOULD BEAT ME UP BECAUSE HE IS MY BOYFRIEND AND HE GETS MAD WHEN I CHEAT ON HIM BY SUCKING OTHER PEOPLE'S COCKS, BUT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, I JUST LOVE THE COCK SO MUCH, IT'S LIKE A FUCKING ADDICTION. MOTHERFUCK, I AM SO FUCKING MAD, I WILL FUCKING KILL ALL YOU FUCKING NERDS, BUT FIRST I WILL SUCK YOUR COCKS BECAUSE I NEED MORE PROTEIN IN MY MOUTH. FUCK YOU ALL MOTHERFUCKERS.
sPeLLcHeCkEr- April 29, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Well I hope to jeebus Maia doesn't kiss Marquardt on the lips like he did the other Nate... Biggest WTF moment in MMA ever imo. If it becomes the new nipple tweak, I'm done with UFC.
Anonymous- April 29, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Thales Leites is a Jiu Jitsu fight and he beats Marquardt. I know that knee to a down Leites from Nate but Leites stunned Nate a few times with striking. Nate Vs. Damien is interesting but I would much have rather scene Nate Vs. Okami eventhough Maia is nasty and Nate already had a shot I just think Marquardt Vs. Okami would be sick to watch!!!!!
Mike Who?- April 29, 2009 at 8:59 pm
battle of the big eared bastards
just some dong- April 29, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Silva vs. Okami = horrible fight
Silva vs. Maia = horrible fight
Silva vs. Marquardt = mildly amusing but predictable
Silva vs. Griffin = Fight of the Year material

Ninjay- April 29, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Yes! Nate is back. I think Maia's streak comes to a crashing halt here. Nate's stand up is 10 times better than Demians and if he is smart, and he is, he wont follow him to thr ground and get subed.Nate is gonna get that belt....only a matter of time.
CAPS LOCK HAL, - April 29, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Dear God. I sure hate myself.
Stylin- April 29, 2009 at 7:36 pm
I think maia vs okami would have been a better choice as marquardt has already had his shot. you'd have to think silva would be hooting for okami so he'd have the opportunity to avenge his loss from a few years ago. granted it was a dq loss, but an l is still l on silve's record.
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