
(Who knew keeping your back against the cage was effective defense? This kept Vitor’s knee from ending up like Willis McGahee. Pic Props:Ryan Kightlinger)
By Jason Moles
Yesterday on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani, your all too friendly, neighborhood reporter-humping, cage fighter made an appearance. And, as per usual, Quinton “Rampage” Jackson left the MMA world with a lot to talk about after withdrawing from UFC 153 and using TRT to trading verbal jabs and “F*ck you!”‘s with former TUF 10 contestant, Matt Mitrione. What was more notable from the interview was Jackson’s criticism of light heavyweight champion Jon Jones and his dirty, dirty knee kicks.
Vitor took the fight on short notice, and this is how you respect him, by kicking his knee backwards and stuff like that? He’s supposed to be a man of God. You can injure somebody, you can sever their career. You can mess people up for life kicking their knee back like that and he does it repeatedly, over and over. To me that has no honor. I take a lot of honor in fighting. He has no honor.
The former Pride and UFC champion went on to question why the athletic commission even allow “stuff like that” to be legal, arguing that if Jones keeps fighting dirty like this, he’ll put everyone on the shelf and won’t have anyone left to fight. As it would turn out, he’s not alone. TheScore.com’s Adam Martin took to twitter to voice his displeasure of the use of linear kicks to the knee as well and reminded his followers that the CSAC already bans the technique.
Just because one state bans something doesn’t make it a good decision (yeah, I’m looking at you New York!). Remember the craziness surrounding the Adlan Amagov/Keith Barry fight on the undercard at Strikeforce: Rousey vs. Kaufman? Never would’ve happened if everyone fought under the Unified Rules – which allow linear kicks to the knee – but I digress.
You remember when Kenny Florian was in a bloodbath or two and some people wanted to ban elbows? It’s the same argument all over again. All opposed complain that the usefulness of the strike in question is limited and is simply doing more cosmetic damage or causing career altering injuries than actually getting the fighter closer to victory via traditional methods like a knockout or submission. Conversely, all proponents of the (mostly) legal tactics point to their effectiveness at rocking opponents or allowing a fighter to keep an opponent at bay.
Question: Who doesn’t like razor sharp elbows or discombobulating knee strikes? Answer: Anyone who has ever faced a fighter who used them and couldn’t find a way to stop them. Here’s another question for you: What makes the type of kick Jon Jones utilized against “Shogun” Rua and Vitor Belfort (let’s not forget Carlos Condit using them recently as well) any more dangerous than a heel hook? After seeing an injury like this, are you going to tell me you’re more worried about some dinosaur’s knee because of a simple kick? Didn’t think so.
I’m convinced there will always be percentage of the population that fully embodies the “Just Bleed” mentality. The idea that mixed martial arts is little more than a glorified street fight fuels their desire to see defenseless grounded fighters have their face caved in with a devastating knee to the mouth. These people crave gratuitous violence and if given their druthers, would award fighter’s bonuses for soccer kicking their opponents head into the crowd like a Mortal Kombat fatality. These people would set the sport back a decade if they ran the athletic commissions.
Supporting the tactical use of certain attacks, however “dirty” others may perceive them to be, does not qualify you as one of those people.
Watching world-class athletes square off in the Octagon to test their skills is not for everyone, after all it is still (for the most part) two guys balling up their fists trying to punch each other’s lights out. But if it is for you, there are far more threatening problems facing fighters today than the type of kick Jon Jones used against Vitor Belfort at UFC 152 on Saturday night. It’s time we realize fighters are going to get hurt from time to time and more often than not, the injury will occur long before his music hits the speakers. Stop worrying about guys getting jacked up during a fight and focus more on keeping him from getting sidelined during practice. (Yes, we’re talking about practice.)








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commentsSubmissions, unless they are sunk deep and fast, you have a chance to tap to and prevent further damage. If you chose not to tap, that is your choice and you will have to live with the consequences.
Strikes to the head - it is inherent in fighting and people recognize the danger. There is a reason as to why people keep their hands up.
Strikes to the knee you dont have a chance to tap, let alone react. The object of the fight sport.....and that is what it is - a sport - is to stop your opponent. Not take away his livelyhood by injuring him. Knee's are not the most durable part of your body. It doesnt take much to mess you up long term. There is a reason why you feel so much pain when they get torqued on.....it is your body's way of saying "enough." I have yet to see someone fight through and superman out of a deep leglock.
Why not allow shots to the nuts? It is a part of the body - you should accept and embrace the fact that your nuts are at risk every time you fight. It is only logical, right??
@Karma, you are not the only fighter on here, but you appear to be the only one who walks around, wearing it like a badge. You talk a lot of shit to a lot of people who you know nothing about and have placed yourself atop a very high horse.
You might be retarded if you think this strike has less potential to hurt somebody more than say a normal leg kick. Why that makes you retarded? Because you don't understand how the knee works. Taking a body shot is a lot less potentially dangerous than getting your knee hyper extended.
Ok, seriously though, here's the biggest problem with all the arguments posted here. They're all anecdotal. The same thing happens in the UG every couple of months. It's all “this one guy I met” and, even in TheCanadian's well-articulated post, it was you “can see the danger in this strike”. However, to this day, I have yet to meet a single MMA fighter whose career ended from this kick. And, in the thousands and thousands of hours of MMA video I have watched, I have never seen a single instance of a fighter seriously injured by this kick.
Show me the evidence and I'll change my tune. Until then, you may want to rethink your arguments. Concussions end more fighters' careers than this kick ever has. But you don't see anyone talking about banning the overhand right.
Oh, and I'll say it again; all it takes to stop the effectiveness of this kick is putting your lead leg out in front, bending the knee, putting more weight on it. Why do you think we weren't talking about this after the Jones-Machida fight? Machida's stance does a great job of negating the effectiveness of that kick.
if this kick is legal, then it should be legal to lock out an arm, and then strike the tricep causing the elbow to hyperextend - same effect, different joint and while not TECHNICALLY a strike to a joint, for all intent and purposes it surely IS a strike to the joint.
In my opinion these are both "strikes to the joint" in all practicality and should not be allowed if we arent allowing knees to the head of a downed opponent.
I mean fuck it, if we allow these kicks, which can do instant, irreparable harm to a joint then why no small joint manipulation?
Fuck it - why no gouging? Why no groin strikes?
Id rather be kicked in the balls, especially wearing a steel cup, then have my fucking knee hyper-extended.
Very misleading statement. From what I remember, it was the elbows kenflo would throw from his back generally to the top of his opponents head (him vs J-Lau for example) that people argued were of questonable legality due to some people saying it was the same technique as a 12 to 6 elbow.
"Here’s another question for you: What makes the type of kick Jon Jones utilized against “Shogun” Rua and Vitor Belfort (let’s not forget Carlos Condit using them recently as well) any more dangerous than a heel hook?"
Also a misleading statement IMHO. A heel hook does not occur in a single second like a strike (usually, at least). You can usually tap to a heel hook when you feel you are in a bad spot. Hell, theres videos of Paul Harris in jits matches where he makes people tap basically before he even has it locked in because people are afraid of even having to be in a position to fight it off. The day someone gets hurt by one of these type of strikes, that fighter isn't going to have the time or option to tap out to avoid injury.
Personally I think anyone who has even so much as ran track, let alone engaged in organized sports can see the danger in this strike. I can't remember which fight it was, but I recall Rogan asking to see the strike in slow mo, and you could see how borderline hyper extended the guys leg was. Its not like we are talking about whether a foot stomp is a bitch move. We are talking about whether throwing a strike that is blatantly aimed at hyper extending someones leg in a flash repeatedly is a bitch/dangerous move. While I don't think its a bitch move (shits legal after all), I do think its relatively dangerous. Would this sport will be any less exciting with the strike being deemed illegal and never used again? Hell the fuck no. If a 12 to 6 elbow to the face is illegal how is a strike designed to hyper extend your leg any less dangerous? As for karma talking about how it doesnt hit the knee, it hits above the knee, I respectfully call bullshit. The strike (at least how Jones throws it) is indeed landing above the knee, but its thrown slightly donward to ride into the knee, thus hyper extending the leg. There is no way anyone is going to tell me someone is throwing this strike to hit your lower thigh as if thats a significant strike. Its a bizarre hyper extension strike technique that I feel we can do without.
But hey, what do I know.
You wanna be a fighter? Evolve. This is MMA not Muay Thai and BJJ. You wanna defend that kick? Bend your knee and put more weight on your front leg. Just because they didn't teach you that in MMA class doesn't mean it should be illegal.
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