Anderson Silva is a tough nut to crack. We know he doesn’t want to fight friends, and we know he doesn’t want to fight guys he’s already beaten, and we know he doesn’t want to fight guys who got middleweight title shots in the UFC without ever competing in the UFC at that weight class. New #1 contender Chael Sonnen doesn’t fit into any of those categories, so you’d think there wouldn’t be a problem. But as Silva’s manager Ed Soares has proven, you can find an excuse to duck pretty much anybody:
Let’s make one thing crystal clear: Sonnen is a Republican, and the only man he has a crush on is America’s Greatest Patriot. Also, Soares and Silva’s opponent-pickiness act is getting very stale. Sure, Sonnen took a loss four fights ago — it’s not that fans have forgotten about it, it’s just that Sonnen is coming off back-to-back wins over top-5 middleweights (something that Anderson hasn’t done himself in two years), which should rightfully earn him a shot at the belt. Don’t forget that Sonnen just kicked the ass of the guy who kicked Maia’s ass, which builds his case even further. And what would happen if Maia beat Sonnen again in their hypothetical #1 contender fight? Would he get a title shot, or would he first have to win a rematch against Nate Marquardt before Ed Soares is completely satisfied? And what if Nate won that fight? Jesus, where are my pills.
Soares’s argument is a silly one that you could use to discredit virtually any title contender: Urijah Faber should have to beat Mike Brown before he gets to fight Jose Aldo, and Frank Edgar should have to beat Gray Maynard before he earns a shot at BJ Penn. Unfortunately, that line of thinking would rob fans of frequent title fights that they might actually want to see. Whatever happened to just fighting whoever they put in front of you?
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Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:26
"We are fine if this is what the UFC wants" How is that ducking a fight?
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:30
Great a co-worker just walked by when I was reading the top of the article and that picture was in plain sight... Now I have to figure out a way to prove to her that I'm not looking at Gay Lifestyle sites. What's even worse is I had just opened the Rush Limbaugh wiki link in a new window so I look like a gay republican now... Damn you Potato.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:32
All Ed Soares does by discrediting every one of Anderson's opponents is cost the guy money. He is pretty much the anti-hype for every fight...shit man, get people excited to watch your man fight, instead of convincing people that he shouldn't even be bothering to fight these people.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:33
I think we are in for a big suprise with Belfort VS Silva ... Vitor might pull off the upset.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:34
I think Ed (and Potato readers) know that Anderson fights best when he's fighting an opponent he can get excited about. He wants the UFC to give him those kind of fights. Are you excited about a potential match-up between Chael and Anderson? I'm not, and I doubt Anderson is either. You're just asking for Anderson vs. Laites all over again.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:37
Silva defended his title against Thales Leites and Patrick Cote but Vitor, Hendo, Marquardt, and Sonnen aren't deserving. I'm sick of hearing this guy's mouth.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:44
Soares should be banned from even opening his mouth when it comes to possible title competitors. I don't hear Soares or Anderson complaining that they got a title shot after fighting Chris Leben. Line up Chael, then Maia, then Marquardt, and make that guy defend his belt.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:45
"t's just that Sonnen is coming off back-to-back wins over top-5 middleweights (something that Anderson hasn't done himself in two years)". Are you really comparing Sonnen to Anderson?! Seriously, this is the lamest article I've ever read in Cagepotato.com
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:45
@Jugger I'm sure you are right -- Silva fights best when he's excited about the opponent -- but honestly, that's no excuse. If the guy can't manage to get excited enough to go out there and defend his title (and collect a nice check) he needs to give up the fight game. It's his effing job, man. I'm not excited to do my job everyday, but I freakin' do it. Period.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:45
The only people that Anderson has showed interest in fighting is Mir, and possibly GSP. He needs to vacate his title if he is to good for everybody at his real weight class. I for one would like to see Anderson fight Chael, it's a different style matchup then anyone else he fought. I know Hendo is a good wrestler but his GNP isn't his only weapon. I would be interested to see how Silva fights off his back while taking constant punishment. I think he and his manager know it's not a good fight for him, and it wouldn't be as fun as punching Forrest in the face.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:46
It's a moot point. Vitor is gonna fuck this guy up.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:50
I don't think this amounts to "comparing Sonnen to Anderson." They're simply pointing out that Silva hasn't fought top 5 middleweights in a long time, and Sonnen is doing exactly that -- and winning. Seems to me that's how guys earn title shots. Hard to argue with that. Don't get me wrong - I think Chael is a douchebag and I never thought he'd beat Nate, but he's done enough to earn the shot at Silva's title, whether Silva likes it or not. If Silva wants to show us what he thinks of Sonnen's abilities, how about he does it by whooping his ass int he Octagon? (Which, btw, I believe he will do if this fight happens.)
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:55
silva and his camp are becoming annoying im tired of his era
Tue, 02/09/10 - 07:57
Okay, I love watching Silva fight and go on a killing spree, but Soares shouldn't be so mouthy considering Anderson is not a PPV buyrate draw. And I don't know about you guys, but if I asked randoms or the hot women on the subways that I leer at when I'm in creeper mode about Anderson, I doubt most would be aware of Silva's existence.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:06
How does Ed Soares manage to shit on so many potential matchups and still have so many awesome fighters to manage? What? Because he speaks fluent Portugeuse? Surely it's not that sim-- what? I am? Oh. Sorry. Yes. No, i wasn't calling you Shirle--forget it. Anyways. Put me in the War Vitor camp. Partly for nostalgia reasons, partly because "War Vitor" has a nice ring to it. Partly because i am a goddam 'Merican, and all these Silvas, Thagos, and Thiago Silvas make my damn head hurt. Damn foreigners need to go home and play soccer or something retarted like that.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:14
Since 2007, Anderson defended his title 5 times. Isn't this fighting top middleweight competition? Oh, he also won two fights in a heavier category. Against whom? Guys like Dan Henderson (former champion), Rich Franklin (former champion), Forrest Griffin (former champion). And what was Sonnen doing? He was fighting Demian (which he lost) and guys like Dan Miller (really, top-5??).
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:16
Ed Soars = Jerry Millen only instead of eastern european fighters it's brazilians.. I wish someone would headbutt that motherfucker.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:21
At this point...Anderson is a already a legend. That's alot to put at risk for every fight from now on. I'm not surprised at the fuckery.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:22
all of this fucking shit is so stupid. just fight whoever is at the top of the food chain. fuck, fight whoever comes strutting up the trail for fuck sakes. whats his problem? if he's so confident in his skills, then just fight them. you can't always get what you want, who does he even "want" to fight? this guy is a fuckin joke on a major ego trip, so sick of listening to this guys camp talk. i wish i just got to watch him fight and didnt have to deal with this drama bullshit
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:25
@ leocesario- Filho, Okami, and Marquardt were all top 5 when he beat them. I'm not a Sonnen nuthugger but that's a nice resume.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:25
I think Silva's team is actually nervous about a Chael Sonnen fight after his performance at 109. The mans wrestling is seemingly unstoppable and we have seen that he can take punishment and will not gas out either. If Marquardt couldnt get Sonnen off him the entire fight, then Silva definately cant. If Silva cant stop Sonnens take downs he will surely lose the fight.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:34
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Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:42
I still think that a great fight for Lyoto or anderson is Couture. Yes he keeps looking good/mediocre and drops to a decent opponent here and there as usual. But Randy's knack isn't really grinding his way through the ranks so much as getting a shot against someone allegedly out of his league, and then finding a way to win that one fight against all odds. He's done it again and again. He's just wasting the last years of that unique gift grinding out with the fellas. They should either give him an expedited road to a shot at Lyoto, or preferably since Lyoto does already have plenty of meat on the table, just put Couture directly into a one off superfight with anderson @ 205. Couture could be the one, again.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:45
@jimbonics Hell yes! War Vitor! I never really liked Chael until I read that hilarious interview he did, then after his domination of Nate I'm ready to jump on the band wagon. Anderson Silva is a classless jerk. Is it not enough to knock people out? Does he really have to mock them during the fight? If Vitor doesn't get the job done, I hope Chael does.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:47
"TheFactor Says: Tue, 02/09/2010 - 07:33 I think we are in for a big suprise with Belfort VS Silva ... Vitor might pull off the upset. " abosultey!! I think it will be. Silva is a great fighter, but I truley believ he hasnt fouht allot of top fighters....hendo,franklin, thats it & Hendo was destroying him in 1st round, till he gassed out Belfort is still iffy for me, but he does look like belfort of old, so far....if thats the case, he is 10 tiimes more explosive than silva & if he can take that first counter puch by silva when belfort comes in with his crazy wicked volley of punches he loves to do...silvas dead....period actually cant wait
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:56
Ed Soares needs to stick a dirty jock strap in his mouth and leave the matchmaking to Joe Silva. Anderson needs to fight whoever the UFC decided so Soares can suck it!
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:02
BTW, I don’t think it would be an upset if belfort whips silva.....in my opinion silva hasn’t proved shit, other than being able to kick the crap out of less top 20 fighters med range fighters griffin---slowest, softest puncher with heart..perfect prey for silva leben--??? top 20 fighter lutter---who has he fought??? exactly James Irvin ??? not even close to top ten Patrick Cote maybe top 10 fighter Thales Leites -we all know hes hype, not a top fighter top 10 fighters he fought Dan hendo--which BTW hendo was kicking his ass ini the 1st, then he gassed Franklin--silva destroyed!!! Period Nate Marquardt - definitely was NOT lopsided..but silva won Conclusion Silva is a good fighter, but he is NOT a top lb for lbb fighter, no way...he needs to fight more real top contenders...too many people jumped on his band wagon cause he destroyed the like of griffin leben lutter James Irvin Patrick Cote Thales Leites Hardly any top fighters there..when he does fight top notch commp Dan hendo-- Franklin-- Nate Marquardt - beside absolutely destroying Franklin (which I never ranked in top 5 anyway, ever) he doest look like the god that all the lack of fighting knowledge think he is... top Lb for Lb fighter GSP Fedor Penn silva Aldo
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:02
fu_kkcongo, saying that belfort is 10 times more explosive than silva can be JUST a tiny bit far fetched. imo, he isn't more explosive, let alone 10 times... Anyway, I'm pumped up for belfort vs silva! And chael can fight any one of the two, I'd like to see it!
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:04
PELF ok, 10 times....not quite.........but he is more explosive..thats a fact. Silva is more technical with his punches..but hes not as quck as belfort
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:07
Why the fuck is Ed Soares complaining about Anderson fighting Sonnen when he's scheduled to fight Vitor in April? Does anybody else think it sounds like Silva is looking past "The Phenom"? Not a smart move on his part, IMO
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:11
His precision is more precise than most precise precision IMO.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:11
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Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:11
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Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:14
read so all the comments so many anderson haters because he is black/Brazilian/not american/doesnt run him mouth every chance he gets/wants to fight best opponents any of these who knows. call me a nut hugger or wtv you want to call it and i being hearing that anderson next opponent will make an upset for since hes had the belt aint gonna happen so many ppl bitch about he manager and him not everythign is money, fighting to some ppl is more than that. if you like duking it out right would you wanna duke it out with a 19 year old same age as you or -1 ,+1 older/younger or would you want to fight a 15 year old which yo knew you were gonna destroy o fun fun fight ahead of you and anyoen fo you so called fans out there saying it his job blah blah you aint really fans, all you wanna do is see someone get beaten up not a actual good fight you want to see a brawl not a martial arts fight. and once again soo many ppl saying he scared or shit liek that but he said he would go up in HW and fight frank mir i am pretty sure frank mir would destroy guys in the MW lets see these guys in MW fight HW anderson silva aint the best in the world he has admitted it. its like ppl hate on him because he a champion but not a american champ or some shit like so many ppl on rashad /chuck/brocks/any top american fighter's nuts like i am surprised ppl like gsp as much as they do i guess it because it no that bad if your from Canada compared to other places of the world. AND ppl say he is disrespectful when all of us fans all his opponets pussy/anythingels and he is the one defending them ?????
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:14
Wait...I don't get it. Anderson Silva doesn't fight Republicans? So Hendo voted for John Kerry? This changes everything...
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:14
fu_kkcongo>> I think you may be forgetting how precise his precision is. Also, you may be underselling Travis Lutter, whose BJJ is Michael Jordan-esque.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:17
I agree with those who think Belfort might win. Regardless, I you can't really criticize Anderson for ducking fights, because he doesn't. With the exception of Machida, Silva has ended up fighting all of the top contenders at Middleweight with the exception of Okami, which is not his fault. He's deflating the fight against Sonnen, which isn't great from a promotional standpoint, but he will end up fighting him. It's just who he is -- belittling the competitiveness of his competition.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:17
Dear daniel.mtl, I only read the first sentence of that. In conclusion, you suck.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:23
It would be awesome to see Belfort beat Silva, and a KO victory at that, but I honestly believe the better the fighter Silva faces, the better he'll fight. THE test for Silva would be GSP.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:23
@ daniel.mtl, In English its called paragraphs.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:25
His competitive belittling competitiveness cant be competed with by the competition, IMO.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:30
The most realistic take on AS i have ever read. Just the facts bitches
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:32
FIRST!!!!!!!!!!
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:38
Vitor!! who gives a shit about chael sonnen, strikeforces top five MW would ruin him, much less Anderson, gay wrestler with no JJ defense. Maia would probabally get knocked out by Anderson if he can't get it to the ground but at least he'd have a chance with his Jiu-jitsu, maia and chael should deffinately rematch before either of them gets a shot, which would come Right after Wanderlei and Vitors.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:39
Lateral Drop Says: Tue, 02/09/2010 - 11:17 Dear daniel.mtl, I only read the first sentence of that. In conclusion, you suck. This. robthom Says: Tue, 02/09/2010 - 11:23 @ daniel.mtl, In English its called paragraphs. This as well. daniel>>Stay in school. Seriously, you make my head hurt. I'm not sure anyone can take your opinion seriously if they need to effin' DECODE IT.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:39
fu_kkcongo Says: Tue, 02/09/2010 - 12:02 BTW, I don’t think it would be an upset if belfort whips silva.....in my opinion silva hasn’t proved shit, other than being able to kick the crap out of less top 20 fighters med range fighters griffin---slowest, softest puncher with heart..perfect prey for silva leben--??? top 20 fighter lutter---who has he fought??? exactly James Irvin ??? not even close to top ten Patrick Cote maybe top 10 fighter Thales Leites -we all know hes hype, not a top fighter top 10 fighters he fought Dan hendo--which BTW hendo was kicking his ass ini the 1st, then he gassed Franklin--silva destroyed!!! Period Nate Marquardt - definitely was NOT lopsided..but silva won Conclusion Silva is a good fighter, but he is NOT a top lb for lbb fighter, no way...he needs to fight more real top contenders...too many people jumped on his band wagon cause he destroyed the like of griffin leben lutter James Irvin Patrick Cote Thales Leites Hardly any top fighters there..when he does fight top notch commp Dan hendo-- Franklin-- Nate Marquardt - beside absolutely destroying Franklin (which I never ranked in top 5 anyway, ever) he doest look like the god that all the lack of fighting knowledge think he is... top Lb for Lb fighter GSP Fedor Penn silva Aldo The most realistic take on AS i have ever read. Just the facts bitches
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:44
@ daniel.mtl, take a lesson from fedorsmightylovehandles regarding quality posts.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:50
ROFL @ omunto
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:50
since when was dan miller a top 5 middle
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:01
is this mma website or is it grammar website like no one rebuttals my argument wow and i am dyslexic so sorry i cause you guys pain and if that caused you pain stick to being keyboard warriors and have nothing to do with the physical part of mma (period). and now i am prob gonna get a bunch of comments saying that cant understand what i am sayin so they cant rebuttal back but in fact everyone i talk to on msn/face book can understand me so i am taking everyone i know is smarter than you guys (ppl bitching). i was thinking if i didnt make a point would you still bitch about my bad English ?? and yes once again i didnt use paragraphs since typing perfect English isnt on the top of my must do list, maybe its the highlight of your guys day to correct someones grammar or right the perfect English sentence but aint mine lolololo whiny bitches comments/reg ppl comments | | v
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:09
@daniel.mtl Put your helmet on immediately!!!
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:10
@daniel.mtl Really? I just figured English was your second or third language.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:16
daniel>> **sigh** Ok, first of all, this site really does not have any asshole grammar nazis, and most stuff just slides by. Robthom drops apostrophes. Skeletor can't keep there/their/they're straight to save his shit. But i respect their opinions, becuase they know what they are talking about. They may not be correct 100% of the time, but they can discuss MMA intelligently, and they crack me the fuck up. Ditto Steampunk, armfarmer, Hulksmash, agentsmith, and a shitload of other people. You started talking about Silva nuthuggers, Brazilians, Americans, Frank Mir, 19 and 15 year olds...and then you're off in fucking Narnia somewhere without making a point. Ok, you're dyslexic, does that mean you fucking argue backwards? If you made an effort, your posts would be understandable. Quit making excuses. And people on MSN and Facebook understand you? Wonderful. Go there. Have fun. Grownups are talking here. PS To demonstrate that no one is perfect, i've left a typo. If you can find it, i'll send you some internets.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:17
Also, isn't it hilarious that Daniel took the time to point at "bitch comments" below his, when he wound up as the last comment on the page? Life. Sometimes, she slap you down and laugh, yes?
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:22
Chael deserves the shot and Soares should just shut it. Also, if Anderson is interested in some HW matches, why would DW be so quick to put the "big kabosh" on it? I for one would love to see Silva vs Mir, et al. DW's right about one thing though, Silva should clean out his division completely first.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:22
HEY STUPIDS!!!!!!! Neither Anderson Silva or Ed Soares has EVER picked or turned down ANY fight the UFC has offered them. (with the exception of ONLY SAYING that he wouldn't fight Machida. He hasn't said that directly to the UFC though.) All this talking is fun and everything, but don't get so emotional about it because, whoever the UFC says he fighting after he kicks the fuckin shit out of Vitor, he's gonna say "ok, tanks veddy muu, tank U" Even if it's Chael "talk my way into a middleweight title fight that I'll probably come out of like a vegetable" Sonnen.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:24
So many Anderson haters in here. First off, Soares isn't saying they wont fight Chael. Its the same thing him and Anderson have been saying for a while : they want big fights with people that deserve it and would actually pose a threat not just random fights. That's why Silva goes up weight like no other MMA fighter. Anderson hasn't hand picked anyone in the UFC, he just fights them and destroys each of them. It is clear he is probably the best striker in the UFC/MMA, has nice reversals, pretty crappy takedown defense for the most part Ill give you that, and has great jiu jitsu. Saying he ducks fights or isnt good is retarded. And Chael will get smashed. Its gonna be funny when Vitor and Anderson fight and Vitor lands a haymaker square on Silvas chin and Anderson doesnt flinch. Then vitor will break, and go to sleep. Then when Vitor loses, you guys are going to start trolling and making excuses why vitor lost.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:26
dude first your a douch only because this comment. started talking about AS nut huggers? as i recall i said called me one or wtv? and the Brazilians/american part was about how ppl dont want a Brazilian champ, and now the frank mir part because other ppl comment saying he worried about cheal and afraid of some fighters. the 19 year old part meaning 19year(anderson) vs 15 year(his MW opponents) and i said if i didnt make a point in my first comment then ppl wouldnt bother correcting me. ps why would i waste my time trying to find a typo ???? and excuses i am pretty sure you just came up with your own "If you made an effort, your posts would be understandable"
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:28
831 Son>> Belfort isn't really known for throwing haymakers. Just saying.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:32
Yeah, I'm not gonna read that either, daniel. Though if I were to guess, I'd say that you were flaccidly trying to defend your flaccid argument. Have some respect for the English language, it's my favorite one. Also you still suck.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:35
@Smitty, you got the nerve to call everyone else "STUPIDS", yet you have no problem claiming Chael "talked" his way into a title shot? Okami, Marquardt...look em up, stupid. Furthermore, I don't think anybody's accusing Silva of ducking fights, just that Soares appears to be TRYING to.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:37
thank you fuckkkkkkk lol its like yea so much fun it has been in teh ufc i have fought a bunch of nobodys (expt hendo) and sweeet their lining up more nobodys is it fun to play basketball/football/any spot against a league under you no it isnt and if it is then your not competitive, because a realy competitive person wants to be the best and play the best. in gym class i always went on shittier team since i wanted a challenge no just a blow out
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:37
I agree man. You take some sensible prop talk from his _manager_ and say Silva's ducking the fight? Give me a break...... People give him too much shit for saying he doesn't want to fight his FRIENDS, which is ridiculous if you think about it. People should give him respect for that but instead, being the fans who just want to see good fights not see humanity in their fighters, they bash him for it. Silva DOMINATES people in his fights. He doesn't just fight to win, he fights to show them that he is the Master in the ring. He fights to destroy people. When he gives his victim a water or helps them up, that's saying "Good dog." Can you imagine taking that mindset with your best friends? It's much harder to turn that switch on and disconnect with humanity in that situation. I think he's unconfident in his ability to go 110% against a friend and he would never go in the ring in anything below that.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:40
Finally, CP is starting to realize what I've been saying for a long time. Ed Soares and Anderson Silva are giant douches. Ed Soares insults every fighter that is ever mentioned as a possible opponent to Silva. He's done it with GSP, Vitor, all the fighters he's beaten before (because just ask Matt Hughes or Randy couture, they'll tell you that if you beat a guy the first time, you'll beat him every other time too), and now Chael Sonnen. Anderson insults his opponents in the ring with his stupid dancing then insults the fans after a boring fight by calling them stupid. And Ed Soares abuses the role of translator by basically lying to everyone about what anderson says. In CONE-clusion, Anderson and Ed Soares are giant douches.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:41
@ lateral drop "Have some respect for the English language" but no respect for me "Also you still suck." you make lots of sense
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:46
Danomite, you sir are a fucking moron.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:48
Wow that was some serious Anderson hate I just had to wade through. Looks like he isn't going to be able to satisfy you all with half of you wishing "he would just do his job" and fight whoever they put in front of him while the other half believe he is overhyped and hasnt defeated many top tier opponents. Personally, I can see where Anderson and company is coming from. They want to secure his status as a legend of the sport before he retires. You don't become a legend defending your belt against questionable competition. He has stated many times that he wants super fights with high profile/top tier talent. Vitor is defintely a step in the right direction, Sonnen Im not so sure Im sold on yet. Cote and Lietes probably should of never happened. IMO he doesn't really have the big names to give him that legend status in MW other than perhaps a fight with Wandy but thats arguable because of Wandy being past his prime. I feel the only way he could buff up his resume of victories would be by continuing to fight top tier LHW's and a few HW's like Mir. If he has to vacate the MW belt to accomplish this then so be it.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 10:53
trippin ninja agreed but dana doesnt want AS to merk guys in LHW or HW he can take out so many big name right now not even funny it pretty obvious that dana doesnt want this to happen like his manger said he would fight in any of MW LHW HW like what does that say to you how many guys in the ufc are sayin they will fight in 3 diff weights ?? if there is tell me so i can respect those fighters more
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:00
Just to clarify: i see a lot of talk about Silva haters, when i really don't see a lot of hate. Anderson Silva is an awesome fighter, and he's put on some great fights. I think most people here would agree he's in the conversation for top P4P at this time. That doesn't mean that you can't take issue with his attitude, as some have. That doesn't mean you can't throw excrement at Ed Soares, as i did. If people want to predict that he can be beaten by another fighter, for a logical reason (Vitor has incredible speed and dangerous power, for instance), that ain't hatin'. Hating we leave to UFCFan. And daniel.mtl.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:01
@daniel.mtl Stop it. Somebodys gonna hurt your feelings if you don't just go away and let it die. I'll admit it. I'm an Anderson Silva hater. I wouldn't care if he was the top p4p or if he has beat the best in the world. I don't like him. I want him to lose. Chael Sonnen could beat every single person Anderson has and a lot of you would still hate him. Its ok to not like a guy and for you to hope he gets beat and it doesn't make you a douche or an idiot. It just means you don't like him and that's ok.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:03
yes i am doing so much hating on here by defending AS lol and nice to see you dont say shit back to me about my comment about your comment
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:07
when did i say i didnt like chael ?? after watching his fight with nate i have way more respect for him chael vs hendo=hendo victories lol keyboard warrior gonna hurt my feelings lolol
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:09
Silva just toys with his opponents in the octagon because he wants to let every one of them know whos boss. Badass if you ask me. Thats not really disrespectful though.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:11
"is this mma website or is it grammar website like no one rebuttals my argument wow ..." Its definitely an English speaking website IMO. I cant decipher what your saying.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:17
daniel.mtl Says: Tue, 02/09/2010 - 13:03 yes i am doing so much hating on here by defending AS lol and nice to see you dont say shit back to me about my comment about your comment You want me to comment about your comment about my comment? What, you need some attention? Daddy didn't hug you enough? If you want feedback from me specifically then you should address me specifically. I do it all the time. Quote me, or type my name with @ or >>>. Truthfully, it's becoming obvious that you are not worth debating. You used "merk" as a verb, for fuck's sake. This is like Anderson Silva fighting Kyle Maynard. You don't have the tools necessary to compete, and i don't really look that good in trashing you. Just stop dude, damn. Anderson Silva doesn't need anyone "defending" him--and definitely not you.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:18
The Wachowski brothers were originally hoping to cast Anderson Silva as Neo in the matrix. That way they could save money on digital effects making it seem like Keanu Reeves could dodge bullets by having Anderson Silva actually dodge bullets. Don't be a hog peeker.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:27
I want to see Silva take on these guys in this order: 1. Vitor Belfort 2. Hendo (not bloody likely) 3. Marquart (rematch). 4. Sonnen 5. Maia I am absolutely certain that Silva won't get through all of them. But then again, the UFC doesn't want their pound for pound champ lose cheap, otherwise they won't look legit. So I won't be surprised if we don't see another Marquart rematch, or even a Sonnen fight. Even though they are both deserving of a shot. I also HIGHLY doubt Maia will be able to take Silva now, he still has a lot to learn about standup before he can challenge the Spider.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:29
"You used "merk" as a verb, for fuck's sake. " He did?! Maybe he's one of those aliens from Mars attacks trying to infiltrate cagepotato. Remember the site snafu during the last UFC? Hmmmmm!
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:31
no it just your a hypocrite i can care less if you comment about my shit it just that i stuck you n you dont want to admit it you said i was all over the place and then i clarified what i said you said shit back, then i call you out on make an excuse and you dont say shit back it clear the only way you try to get your point across is trying to humiliate me neways (sorry anyways) i gotta put my hand to better use like training for Thailand peace leave all your hate i will be back
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:37
Obviously, Anderson wants big fights because neither Soares or Silva want to admit that as amazing as Silva is at fighting, he can't draw for shit (Compared to the other champions like Brock, GSP and BJ. Dunno if Machida has drawing power just yet). Oh and YesCartwheel, to add to the list of lame "trying too hard to be clever/funny" jokes you seem to be spouting, the YES! and the YES! cartwheel thing became played out last year.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:40
To all the people who don't like Silva and want him to lose, why would you want him fighting Sonnen? Put him up against the LHW champ or a HW. After Belfort there is no one left that can beat him at MW.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:44
Daniel>>> "hypocrite" That is a VERY big word for you, son. You spelled it correctly, but i'm not sure you know what it means. "you said i was all over the place and then i clarified what i said " No. No, you haven't clarified anything. "call you out on make an excuse" Again, you're not making sense. I told you to stop making excuses, using dyslexia to explain your disjointed, run-on sentences. Plenty of dyslexics can express what they mean clearly. If you make small errors nobody is going to bust your balls. You type like you might be that guy on the subway that rants about aliens and how the CIA killed your monkey.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:45
Eeeeh... Vitor will be fun popcorn, but he wont win. And he'll get stopped when/if anderson feels like it. Marquardt was apparently false advertising. Nobody had any idea that the holes in his game would be that huge. Nothing to see there anymore IMO. In fact I think we all jumped on the bandwagon from his last fight way too fast. Maybe we were just desperate for anything significant to happen @ 185. I'm not convinced Chael has suddenly gotten much better. Looking back at Marquardt, among other examples, it seems apparent that any dog can have a day. But that doesn't change the breed. Anderson needs to go to 205. Or HW if he really insists on being a smart ass about it. I wouldn't mind seeing him snatched by the collar by any HW even imaginably near legit contender status. Anderson/Yvel would be a fun throwaway if they want to give him a chance. Anderson would probably win that.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:52
^ Made of WIN.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 11:53
"call you out on make an excuse" A middle line of a Haiku? English is hard to do Call you out on make an excuse please pay attention to me
Tue, 02/09/10 - 12:23
Lol
Tue, 02/09/10 - 12:33
Anderson has only a couple fights left in the UFC before he claims he will leave the organization. I think he wants to go out with a bang and prove himself the best fighter in the history of the sport, and the only way he can do that is through super-fight-worthy opponents like GSP, Shogun, Rampage, Belfort....fuck..he'd fight Lesnar if Dana would allow it. It would look like a fucking video game.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 12:33
@Daniel.mtl If I could understand your posts, I might be more understanding of your point(s). No matter how intelligent your point is, if it sounds like a third grader putting it together you are probably going to hear about it. I have no idea what your native language is, but the fact remains, if you wish to make a point to an audience of primarily english speaking people maybe you should get the basics down - makes easier us understand you yes? As for your argumant and my rebuttal. Anderson is the Champ. As Champion, you are supposed to defend it. You may destroy them, but its not your business to decide who deserves a shot at your strap anymore, its only your job to defend it. Actually its your job to destroy the competition. Anybody who knows anything about fighting knows that there is always someone tougher, and at the UFC's level of competition, anyone can win any fight. THIS is the real reason(in my opinion) Soares/Silva dont want anymore MW fights. They both fear a loss and that it might derail his superfight demand. Why do you think Hendo was sidelined? How about the Marquart/Maia contest to get a title shot.?.?.? Finally I just want to say that I think that all this downtalk about other fighters from the Silva camp is going to end up taking away from him as a champion. I really do think its time for the UFC to stand up against this "I wont fight this guy or that guy" BULLSHIT. Oh Anderson wants to fight the best except Machida and the rest of the quality competition because they are "friends", and then he wants to duck anyone outside this circle he's drawn around the people he wont fight. No Champion should be allowed to talk in this manner and the first time they say shit like this J Silva should make the match they dont want on principal. I guess I am just tired of profession cage fighters giving any reason why they wont fight...its time for this to end.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 12:35
CP - How much did you get paid to write this nonsense? daniel.mtl - you're giving us Canadians a terrible name with your ridiculously shit posts. God damn french,go eat poutine and party at la disco and keep your shit posts out of here. I would hardly say Silva is ducking people. I agree its fucking stupid he won't fight Machida or anyone else from his camp but I just can't see how he would be so willing to fight Belfort but is scared of Chael. Everyones just become a Sonnen Nut Hugger cuz hes so damn good at interviews and says the right things to push buttons. The Silva Belfort fight should be a good battle and test to see if silva's striking is indeed at a whole new level or if it has been tremendously overhyped, but wtf is with everyone on Sonnens dick now, pre Nate hes a bum now hes better than silva and silva is scared of him? As far as the whole pound for pound ranking system goes, its fucking bullshit and mundane to try and rank elite fighters like that into a rank. Throw them into an open weight tournament, multiple fights in 1 night and call it a day.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 12:44
If this is all because of his own brainstorming, Ed Soares needs to shut the fuck up. If it's actually words from Anderson Silva himself, he needs to quit being so finicky and fight. Not only is Anderson the best middleweight around, he's also a champion, and only discredits the MW strap by coming up with excuses on why he shouldn't find this guy or that guy. While I feel Sonnen is more deserving, I hope Vitor can knock Anderson out. Hell, as long as Sonnen or Vitor win I'll be happy, then maybe Anderson will feel that hunger again.. Which would be great.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 12:48
@ CP - How much did you get paid for this nonsense? I think Silva's camp has very valid points - Who the hell is Chael. This dude was a nobody and -300 against nate and now that he beat nate (which he almost lost due to a very tight submission attempt) Anderson is all of a sudden ducking him. You want to talk about ducking fights lets talk about Fedor signing to strikeforce yet Fedor still gets put on top of everybodys pound for pound list. Im sure hes really looking forward to defending his title against the winner or Canseco/Walker While I'm on the topic of pound for pound lists - they are as stupid as Daniel.mtl (see footnotes) I say run an open weight tournament and get it done with. you can't compare BJ to Silva or GSP to Fedor for obvious size reasons so these lists are so pointless. Footnotes: @ Daniel.mtl - STFU, you are making Canadians look bad. God damn french. Go eat poutine and make dance at "la disco". Keep your shit posts out of here.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 12:49
@dogpt3 ..good battle and test to see if silva's striking is indeed at a whole new level or if it has been tremendously overhyped.. Have you watched any of his fights in the UFC? or in his career for that matter? Silva has always been at a ridiculously different level at striking than EVERYONE. When, in Silva's MMA career, have you seen him out struck? And I think that his last fight against Forrest was evidence enough that he's literally become a jedi. His fights against Leites and Coté was Silva fucking with these helpless men for 5 rounds...or 3 if you "blow out" your knee. I put 'blow out' in quotations because its clear that Silva used the force to injure him.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 12:54
I think it's more Soares voicing an opinion than anything. The fight will happen
Tue, 02/09/10 - 12:54
and i know i double posted, stupid Dell crashed need to buy a mac.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 12:57
Fuck macs bro. Go ASUS with Windows 7.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 01:03
I don't see GSP as a test for Silva -- he's way smaller, and is essentially a wrestler with some great timing on his feet. If Marquardt couldn't get him, it seems unlikely GSP could. Of course, MMA has a habit of proving people wrong, and in this case I hope I am.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 01:04
ReX13 you, sir, are hilarious. I practically choked on my grape Gatorade reading your total slaughter of daniel.mtl. Please, let's all just stay quiet and ignore him and maybe... just maybe daniel.mtl will go away. Far far far away.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 01:10
Daniel.mtl, my friend, stop before it gets any worse. Trust me...I'd ask you to stop while you're ahead...but you're too far behind for that. The sharks are circling...just waiting for you to step into the deep waters with posts like that. I've seen it in action...
Tue, 02/09/10 - 01:13
I just wanted to say that I hate Anderson because he is black/brazilian/not american/whatever other stupid shit that dude said. Oh and also, George Bush hates Black people. Seriously, only 1 guy said he wanted Vitor to win because he was sick of Brazilians, and I'm pretty sure he was joking, because Vitor is Brazilian.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 01:16
@robthom - I read on yahoo yesterday that Randy will get a title shot for beating Coleman. Don't necessarily agree with it, but I will watch it so mission accomplished I guess. Assuming those yahoos at yahoo know what they're talking about, which is a stretch. @mthomas - I don't know if he is overlooking Vitor, but if he is you are right, big mistake.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 01:23
ghostboner Says: Tue, 02/09/2010 - 15:13 I just wanted to say that I hate Anderson because he is black/brazilian/not american/whatever other stupid shit that dude said. Oh and also, George Bush hates Black people. Seriously, only 1 guy said he wanted Vitor to win because he was sick of Brazilians, and I'm pretty sure he was joking, because Vitor is Brazilian. EXACTAMUNDO. (Damn, that's two Samuel L impressions in one day. I think it's time to clock out and go home.)
Tue, 02/09/10 - 01:25
@robthom - Haiku!!! You asshole you just made me suck oj into my sinuses! Haiku is 5-7-5 but that was a damn good one. Sandwiching his tard english between "English is hard to do" and "please pay attention to me", oh jeez my sinuses!
Tue, 02/09/10 - 01:43
Man, when Sarah Palin finds out how you guys have been treating daniel.mtl she is gonna flip her shit. You better hope she doesn't have a .50 cal.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 01:50
On topic, Sonnen deserves the title shot. He beat Marquardt fair and square, and convincingly.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 01:51
Ghostboner>> 98% of what comes out of her mouth is retarted. And 20% of what comes out of her vagina. (Good luck finding me with a chopper, Palin. I use Cold Blooded!)
Tue, 02/09/10 - 02:15
Marquardt should have gotten his shot BEFORE Sonnen disillusioned all his fans (especially me). Now once Silva beats Sonnen nobody is gonna care about Silva vs Marquardt. But before it would have been Silva's "Toughest challenge yet" Assuming he gets past Vitor, which he will.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 02:27
Lateral, I hear what you are saying, but if Nate deserved the shot before the Sonnen fight, he also should have beaten Sonnen. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Nate fan, but as ghostboner said, Sonnen deserves the shot...he earned it. If Sonnen were to beat Silva ( I know, that's a huge IF, but we have to consider all possibilites) then a Marquardt/Silva fight becomes relevant again. God I love MMA math...
Tue, 02/09/10 - 02:38
Hey daniel ....... SHUT THE FUCK UP ! That is all.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 02:59
@ Akileez - I completely feel that Silva is in a league of his own when it comes to striking, if he can pick apart Belfort then hopefully all the haters will stop crying about how Silva hasnt fought anyone legit. Cuz you know, raping F.G. obviously wasnt enough
Tue, 02/09/10 - 03:11
@rlh61 I was talking about the ILLUSION of competitiveness. I mean a couple days ago he was the same fighter he is now but many thought he might actually give AS a run for his money. Therefore that fight would have been easy to hype. Now its never going to be an important fight. Not anytime soon.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 03:27
i dont see why u guys r not excited about chael vs spider. Him including Dan Henderson or Team Quest in general imo has the tools to beat Anderson which are strong wrestlers with sub defense, i.e. chael sonnen and hendo and dont give me shit hendo got subbed!!! when he's not gassin his sub defense is way above average and the thats why spider choked out hendo so easily, look at the first round of that fight to prove what team quest has in store for anderson, not that anderson cant just study chaels fights and be ready, its not like its a secret also even lindland, who everyone says sucks, at least recently, even had a great performance against a guy like fedor, that team hads some solid fighting fundamentals
Tue, 02/09/10 - 04:06
CP, I know you were awesomely excited over Chael's performance against Nate the other night but calm the fuck down please. Anderson obviously doesn't duck anyone as he's stepped up to 205 twice to rock it out with nothing truly to gain. There is nothing wrong or incorrect with anything Soares says in that first paragraph.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 04:13
@Lateral I see what you are saying, and I agree. The 'illusion' you mention is the cornerstone of MMA math. Hell, that's part of what makes this sport so damn much fun!
Tue, 02/09/10 - 06:03
wow so much hate to read love it i will get back at you guys 2morrow 2 tired and wow rex 13 you really know how to duck n dodge shit
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:00
>>>>Dogpt3.. fedor doesn't have the strikeforce HW belt
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:07
@daniel.mtl One of the Bens has a MFA in writing. People go to this mma-news site above others because they appreciate good writing. Your out-right refusal to leave intelligible comments (for example, your lack of punctuation or capitalization) makes it difficult to read your comments, and makes your online-persona come off as a young child trying to communicate with adults. You obviously don't give a shit about how awful stupid you sound, so you can expect the vast majority of people on this website to continuously make fun of you. Silva v Belfort will be a good fight. Sonnen v Silva is a good match-up, as well.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:13
Guys, you gotta leave Daniel.mtl alone. He's french its not his fault hes a total D-Bag, GSP is the exception not the rule when it comes to french Canadians.
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:17
Call me an idiot, but Anderson is overrated
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:18
money...good fights...a jedi craves not these things
Tue, 02/09/10 - 08:20
and MJB, technically overeem has the belt but lets be realistic here, the only chance that fights happening is if its fought in a basement in thailand far away from drug tests. Besides if overeem leaves Japan who is gonna defend against godzilla
Tue, 02/09/10 - 09:16
Guys...Seriously. daniel.mtl is getting the attention he so desperately craves. I think the best thing to do is just stop responding. I know it's hard, because, God Damn, I just want to tell him what you guys already have, That his massive blocks of text that are one big run on sentence aren't even getting read, because it's like reading the ramblings of a retarded kid who just ate a handful of pixie stix. But a retarded kid has an excuse. he's fucking retarded. This guy is just an imbecile. Now on to Silva...Does this guy even want to be a fighter anymore? Is sitting around in huge pimp jackets so awesome, that he just forgot how he got there? The guy destroys people so easily, that he should be fighting every other month, for christ sakes, especially with the long line of chumps they have thrown at him. I'm rooting for whoever goes against him next. I want to see him lose. I think, deep down, we all do.
Wed, 02/10/10 - 06:29
Damn there are a lot of new names on here. 831 son still holding it down I see. In my opinion Anderson Silva is the greatest fighter in his division right now. He has a very well rounded skill set that I dont see anyone besting, that being said his weakness in the past has been guys getting him down and getting dominant position and even subbing him. Sonnen has a very good chance to get him to his back but can he do anything once he gets him there?
Wed, 02/10/10 - 08:17
to much to respond to so only write few things. someone said ppl come here because they appreciate good writing. so ovs you care about "good writing" more than mma or els no one would respond back to me, they wouldnt care since they care about discussing mma more than writing, and there is ppl like that all the ppl that didnt give fuck and didnt comment back to me since they care about mma more. if you dont believe this your only lying to your self. the comment about being a french Canadian d-bag are you jealous that we have the most beautiful women, best night life in the world fact, incredible food, the best hockey team in the world, just for laughs and GSP over here. how can you exclude him when he is quebecer to the max have you not seen his tattoo of flour de lis on his leg
Wed, 02/10/10 - 09:46
The guys that are all of a sudden talking down on Silva need to stop, first of all lets not forget even the best that Silva has beat he made them look like pop warner vs. NFL, he is on a completely different level all together so put down your mugs of Haterade you've been drinking and get back to reality.
Wed, 02/10/10 - 01:26
@daniel.mtl - So are you really just a native French speaker and English is your second language? Because if so I will make fun of you 50% less from now on. But just fyi, it is pretty hard to understand what the hell you're saying.
Wed, 02/10/10 - 03:50
@ghostboner nice dodging everything said, and yes you still couldnt understand what i said. i dont really care i'm not the person that you have to convice its your self, good luck with that o yea and i only speak english
Wed, 02/10/10 - 09:42
"o yea and i only speak english" No, you don't, and that is the problem. What do I need to convince myself of? I don't know what the hell the first part was all about. I was just trying to point out in a slightly less confrontational manner that it is a bit hard to decipher what you are saying, and also that I would be willing to cut you some slack if English was your second language. That is all.
Thu, 02/11/10 - 05:58
@ghostboner Amen, brother. @daniel.mtl Here's the deal. The only way to get people to appreciate what you have to say about MMA is to clearly articulate it. I'm not saying you need to write a thesis, just clearly communicate coherent thoughts. So far, all I've been able to figure out is that you're from Canada, you like GSP, and you don't like to type out the word 'people'. Other than that, I know nothing of your MMA knowledge. And apparently we are all lying to ourselves about something, but none of us can figure out what that is.
Thu, 02/11/10 - 09:01
I'd like to state for the record that: I like Canada. I like every Canadian i've ever met in person (admittedly not that many though), and all the women have been (at the very least) 7's. I think GSP is an awesome fighter and a good guy. and I also have a great deal of respect for anyone who is bilingual, and i would absolutely cut a great deal more slack to anyone who is posting in their second language. Otherwise...potato nation seems to have little patience for idiots. We do not feed the trolls, and we do not suffer the fools.
Thu, 02/11/10 - 01:44
Ed Soares is a complete idiot!!! First why would you talk bad about everyguy that your fighter is going to fight you make more money if your out there telling everyone that this guy is a second only to your fighter. also does this mean that in Soares's eyes all of anderson's fights have been bull shit i mean is he really the greatest like they claim if everyone he beats is just a can!?! and finally take a page out of the Fedor fight hype team and when you get a guy you think doesnt even deserve to be in the same state as you on fight night tell everyone he could beat everyone but you and even your fight with him will be close (ie. The Grim v Fedor)
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