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‘Don’t Be Scared, Homey’


(Nick Diaz makes the most of the one comment allotted him by Bill Goldberg.)

Here’s what seems just a little disingenuous about this situation in Elite XC over the weekend: you don’t invite/allow Nick Diaz into the cage here if you don’t want trouble. If you truly want to let KJ Noons have his moment and enjoy his successful title defense, you keep Diaz and his brother out of there altogether. The fact that Elite XC went the opposite direction really only tells you that they were probably hoping for a WWE moment such as this one.

Judging by the past couple of Elite XC events, it’s starting to seem as if they are interested in putting on a certain kind of fight. They either want the type that is entirely one-sided, or they want the kind that stays standing for the entire fight and ends in a knockout. Of course, getting both is ideal, but they’ll settle for one or the other.

Perhaps this is what Gary Shaw meant when he said he wanted only “action fighters” and not guys who would lay on the mat and have a love fest. As we’ve all seen, there’s nothing that endears you to MMA fans so much as suggesting that ground fighting is gay.

But when you combine that with the post-fight antics they encouraged this weekend, it makes you wonder what’s going on over at Elite XC. Are they trying to out-sensationalize the UFC? Do they think that a reputation for mismatches and quick knockouts and post-fight brawls will help them siphon off some the UFC viewership that has been slow to embrace MMA outside of the Octagon?

Maybe the better question is, could it work? Maybe. It might not be the best thing for the sport in the long run, but it might be effective for a little while. If people start tuning in to see what crazy thing will happen on Elite XC rather than coming just to watch the fights, it still equals ratings in the end. That might be all Elite XC wants, however they have to get it.

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RAGECRAZY- July 14, 2008 at 1:15 am
BELEIVE IT OR NOT I WAS THERE IN HI. WHEN THIS WENT I KNOW NICK AND NATE AND THIS WAS NOT STAGED AND TO ALL YOU HATERS OF THE BROS. AND STOCKTON YOU CAN KISS MY SACK. VAGINA PLATA SCARFACE AND TRICK YOU WATCH TOO MUCH WWF TO EVEN COMPARE THE TWO.THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS KJS DAD STARTED THE WHOLE THING WITH HIS MOUTHY BULLSHIT AND NATE HAD THE BALLS TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE HE IS NOT A PUSSY LIKE YOU THREE FAGGOTS CONGRATS YA THREE GEEKS YOU JUST JOINED THE RANKS THAT BITCH KJ AND HIS DICK SUCKING DAD KJ IF YOU SEE THIS YOU ARE A BITCH YOUR DADS GOING TO RUIN WHAT SORRY ASS PAPER CAREER YOU HAVE LEFT J ROC CANT AGREE WITH YOU MORE KJS NOTHING UFC WOULD EAT YOU ALIVE YOUR DADS NOTHING BUT A WASHED UP OLD BOXER RIDING YOUR COAT TAILS FANS WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE PUSSIES OR BAD ASSES VAGINA AND TRICK YOUR NAME SAYS IT ALL SILLY FAGGOTS CAGES ARE FOR BAD ASSES. NICK BEAT KJ GIVE THE BELT BACK AND COME BACK TO DREAMS ITS ALOT MO MONEY ANYWAYS. 209/808 MOTHER FUCKERS.
JRoC- June 18, 2008 at 12:49 am
I'd like to see Noons fight any reputable contender in the UFC. He'd get beat so bad his old man would feel it. Diaz rules!
VAGINAPLATA- June 17, 2008 at 3:59 pm
As Scarface said "FUCK THE FUCKING DIAS BROTHERS"
Trick- June 16, 2008 at 12:13 pm
I can't stand the Diaz bros. I thought the name of our sport is Mixed Martial Arts which martial artists have respect, discipline and honor. Not that shit.
Spacealias- June 15, 2008 at 10:28 pm
XFL=Elite XC Remember the good old XFL? Vince McMahon's version of football, that was supposed to be tougher, they were going to show the fights that happen on field as opposed to turn the camera's away from the action like the NFL does. Well it turned out that league was nothing more than WWE's version of football. The coaches got into WWE style staredowns and Cheerleaders were sluttier, but none of it was entertaining or believable. Elite XC is nothing more than a future failed fight league. The true fans know when their being sold a bill of goods.
Clyde- June 15, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Crap, I tried to stop posting that when I saw I'd put "I" instead of "It". Sorry to any pedants out there.
Clyde- June 15, 2008 at 8:50 pm
I really does sound like Raw/smackdown, they should have JR and the king do the commentary. They'll at least know something of the ground game, although they'd probably be surprised when someone actually taps out to an armbar or a choke.
pookysdabomb- June 15, 2008 at 8:09 pm
I would like to post a comment on here, but Goldberg says my english is not good enough, so i will just read it together with him........

WTF is that?
ol'pappy- June 15, 2008 at 7:29 pm
EliteXC is complete horseshit. They have some very good fighters, but the presentation is FUCKING HORRIBLE. These are the guys that got the network deal and are going to take MMA mainstream?? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS??? This clip looks like WWE at its worst. I wouldn't let Gary Shaw manage my fucking yard sale.
alex- June 15, 2008 at 7:07 pm
me and all my homeys say homey still you fool.. The DIAZ boys taking over
tusker- June 15, 2008 at 7:01 pm
@ sergio momesso:

first, props for your handle. memesso was a bad-ass.

i think most people just don't know what's happening in a ground fight. it's not as obvious as a striking match...the art is more subtle, but no less impressive. just watch the sakuraba/newton fight at Pride 3.

i've been training in muay thai for a few years now. recently, maybe 6 months ago, i started working on the ground game. anyone who thinks ground fighting is for pussies (jay larkin??) is a complete moron.
smitters- June 15, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Doesn't Gary Shaw look like he is one of those people who smells terrible? Like he has very bad breath, and insists on getting real close to you when he talks to you? Plus his comments about "ground fighting" should disgust and insult pretty much every credible fighter of any organisation.
sergio momesso- June 15, 2008 at 5:17 pm
@Tusker:
"but if you really do love the SPORT of MMA, and not just mindless violence, you know"

I understand but a lot of people love MMA for the standup brawlers and think that the floor game is for pussies.

As someone who has done judo/jiu-jitsu/aikido his whole life, the ground game (as well as projecttions/takedowns) is my first love. As someone who spend enough time in physiology classes in college, I know very well what a punch does to the brain both short term and long term and think that anybody who boxes regularly probably had a few brain cells missing to start off with. (that said, I'd rather they go to much lighter gloves even at the risk of breaking a few knuckles. Padding is not there to protect the one being punched but to protect the punchers hands)
BJ- June 15, 2008 at 5:05 pm
I wonder how much bonus they got for that show after the fight...
dude- June 15, 2008 at 5:03 pm
fuck diaz brothers they are both cocky overated shitheds
Morgan- June 15, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Wow, that was about as fucking staged as it gets.
Anonymous- June 15, 2008 at 4:21 pm
If I want WWE, I'll watch WWE...their girls are hotter.
gogo-jojo- June 15, 2008 at 3:37 pm
For the real fans of Mixed Martial Arts this is a stomach turner. It is obvious they are encouraging their fighters to take on or exagerate their roles. The Diaz brothers seem a perfect clone to the "Heals" of a monday night RAW spectacle, whereaz squeaky-clean KJ smiles with his whole family. I'm not sure who was in on this horror for the sport, but Gary Shaw is probably still watching on repeat with a stinky fat stogey in his mouth. FOr all the shit Dana gives people, he is at least trying to promote it as a sport of athletes. At a time when MMA is at task to make a good impression for the nation, and the NEw York politians, Elite XC is taking the sport back to "human cockfighting"
justme- June 15, 2008 at 3:35 pm
gogo-jojo finally a man of wit
tusker- June 15, 2008 at 3:32 pm
i used to think that Elite XC was a respectable organization with some solid, up-and-coming fighters (Antonio Silva, Jake Shields, KJ Noons, etc). They also had some established talent like Lawler and Ninja Rua, and in most cases their cards were pretty entertaining.

Then along came Kimbo...

These last two Elite XC events have done more to damage MMA's rep than most people are willing to admit. It took more than a decade for the sport to evolve to the point where its practitioners could be considered world class athletes, and not just bar-brawling thugs. I'm all for stand-up matches and KO's - the Lawler/Smith match was one of the best I've seen in years - but action shouldn't come at the cost of artistry. I know this sounds all high & mighty, but if you really do love the SPORT of MMA, and not just mindless violence, you know where I'm coming from.

The problem with Elite isn't exactly Kimbo's doing. I give the man all the credit in the world for training as hard as he has. I'm sure in a couple of years, once his ground game has matured, he'll be a serious contender. The problem is Gary Shaw.
Gary Shaw is nothing but a poor man's Don King. It's obvious he doesn't care one bit about the sport. Say what you will about Dana White, but at least he loves MMA. Dana and the UFC almost always come up with even matches between exciting fighters. You rarely see a fighter with a padded record walk into the Octagon. look who they matched Lesnar up with for his first fight - a former heavyweight champion.

the only people who are going to be attracted to this style of fighting that Elite is seemingly devoted to are the same people who head to the bars on Friday night decked out in their Tap Out gear trying to look like bad asses. and as far as i'm concerned, Gary Shaw can have them. Leave the real fighting to the real fans.
gogo-jojo- June 15, 2008 at 3:24 pm
THANKS Elite XC for putting as much WWE in your programing as possible. Lets start by pointing out Elite didn't get rid of the REAL idiot in the middle of this...not KJ or Diaz..its the former wrestler and WWE'r Golberg. We didn't see him at the CBS event.(or strangely the fight professor) He has plenty of experience in this realm of "fake fight soap opera's". When the casual observer watches this: Golberg, lots of lights, fog, and inclined entrances;alla WWE.(UFC only had them once), they will relate with wrestling, so elite is in fact the buzzards of MMA. Take some overrated fighters, mix in some superficial drama and you have got the "underbelly audience" of MMA.
Blee Blop- June 15, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Looks like one of KJ Noons' trainers or partners is taking body shots at Nick Diaz on the slow motion replay. Silly.

I watch it all. But the majority of the time I'm only impressed by UFC and the Japanese promotions.
NealTaflinger- June 15, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Corny, tacky, amateurish.
Aaron from alaska- June 15, 2008 at 2:49 pm
As soon as it happened I was screaming fake, I really liked Elite XC but its starting to look more and more like WWE or F or whatever letters they are using now. And I like Nick Diaz so I am not bashing him but I do think it will ruin the sport in the long run
Anonymous- June 15, 2008 at 2:38 pm
I think casual fans are just starting to catch on to Elite after the CBS thing, so yeah they probably did want this kind of thing to draw them into the Noons-Diaz rivalry. wouldn't be surprised to see them fight on a CBS show down the road.
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