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Dubious Claim of the Day: Wes Shivers Will Be Like a ’275-pound Clay Guida’ at Strikeforce Challengers


("Based on what we saw here today we think you’d be a great fit for the Strikeforce organization." PicProps: FightMagazine.com)

You’ll have to excuse even the most rabid “Ultimate Fighter” viewers if they don’t remember Wes Shivers. Shivers – one of the hulking NFL washouts not named Matt Mitrione on season 10 of the reality show– lost his first and only “TUF” fight to James McSweeney early on and quickly disappeared from our collective consciousness. In the wake of Shivers not getting invited back for the live finale we thought we’d seen the last of the guy until late last week, when Strikeforce sent out a press release (in triplicate, no less) trumpeting the fact that it’d dug him up to appear on the undercard of tomorrow night’s Challengers called.

Yeah, that’s right, Strikeforce sent out a press release to announce the return of Wes Shivers to MMA. Frankly, we wouldn’t be inclined to say much more (or anything at all) on the subject if not for Shivers’ interview this week with MMA Junkie which – through no fault of his own – effectively points out why/how Strikeforce continues to waste everybody’s time with these Challengers shows.


As it turns out, Shivers was retired from MMA and working as a sheriff’s deputy before getting the call from Strikeforce to come fight on this card in his home state of Mississippi. Obviously, you can’t blame Shivers for saying yes to that offer, but it begs the question: What the hell is Strikeforce even doing calling a mid-30s retiree who hasn’t fought in nearly two years to come fight on a show it supposedly uses to try to cultivate new talent? We know the company likes to stock its undercards with local fighters to try to draw a better live crowd but c’mon, this is ridiculous.

Then you start reading Shivers’ quotes, which increasingly make it sound like he has no business fighting on a card produced by America’s second largest MMA promotion. Or really fighting anywhere, for that matter.

"I’ve got the mentality right now that if I walk out of that cage Friday night and I never fight again … I’m OK with that,” Shivers says. “I’m 33 (years old), and I’ll be 34 soon. I’ve been through a lot, a lot of physical stuff in my life. I can feel it every day, but I’m not one that’s going to give into it. I’m not going to say, ‘I’m too old for this.’ … I plan on doing (this) until the road ends. I guess we’ll wait and see."

So, just to recap: 33 years old. Retired. Hasn’t fought since March, 2009. Taking a “wait and see” attitude to this fight. Body is saying no, but brain is saying yes. What could possibly make this sound like a worse idea for Strikeforce? Oh wait, this: Shivers used to train with Alan Belcher, but for this fight he decided to stay home and train at a local gym called Knockout Fitness and MMA in Flowood, Miss.

"I want to get in the cage and fight like a 275-pound Clay Guida … ," Shivers says.  "I went back to my roots and did my camp with the guys I started out with six or seven years ago that have pretty much stuck with me. I was mentally drained, so I got away, got back to work, got my feet back on the ground. I got an opportunity to fight for Strikeforce and I just took it back to the basics from where I began and what got me here.”

So, what you’re saying is the old Wes Shivers is back? Great. Good thing Shivers’ opponent is a dude who is 1-3 and also making his Strikeforce debut.

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Shellacto- November 22, 2010 at 8:36 am
This is probably the worst mma article I have seen in a long time, and that is saying a lot. How very biased and lacking of insight. A fighter is over the hill at 33 and has no business fighting on a challengers circuit? Did you forget that Marcus Davis was nearly the same age when he went onto the Ultimate Fighter to get his shot. That was 5 years ago. All fighters endure pain. Whatever injuries plague him from his NFL career, it does not appear to be preventative so far, not as much as in the case of Kimbo Slice or Big Baby who was plagued his entire time on the UFC reality show/challenge. All fighters still trying to make it have to be given the chance to prove themselves-that is the purpose of any kind of challenge series. This kind of judgmentalism is strictly for the immature.
JaredB- November 18, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Ryan Couture is injured and will be sitting this card out, but still, this is a solid show.
NinjaNerd8- November 18, 2010 at 4:02 pm
IIRC it used to be the opinion of this website that SF`s challengers cards were to be looked upon favourably since they showed a dedication to building up new talent in the sport.

Yeah, that`s right, CP dedicated yet another post to hypocrisy and fighter-bashing.

Big surprise.
google- November 18, 2010 at 1:18 pm
I say he won that fight on TUF. They where both totally gassed at the end of it. It was a complete joke of a fight, but i would have gave it to him, Mcsweeny sucked.
TheYert- November 18, 2010 at 1:10 pm
I am totally pumped about this strikeforce event. I live in Jackson, MS and this is the biggest MMA event to ever come here. Wes does the best he can ,and I will be pulling for him. There are several other decent fights on the card though I think. Ryan Couture is fighting also. The Zaromskis fight is gonna be good. We have to take what we can get here in the Sip for proMMA.
Fried Taco- November 18, 2010 at 12:43 pm
I hate it when articles use only partial quotes. Here is the whole sentence:

"I want to get in the cage and fight like a 275-pound Clay Guida for one minute, then I'll be completely gassed out ," Shivers says.
El Famous Burrito- November 18, 2010 at 12:32 pm
I think he meant to say a 275-pound Clay Aiken.
Clyde- November 18, 2010 at 12:21 pm
I think it was a typo, and he meant to say "like a 275lb Jason Guida"
Douchebaggery- November 18, 2010 at 11:58 am
jfjjfjff is the sound of a long queef
JaredB- November 18, 2010 at 11:58 am
This fight isn't even televised, there is ZERO chance you will see it since SF doesn't even televise their *good* prelims. Couple that with the fact that it makes tons of sense from a business standpoint, and that Friday's Challengers is really a fucking awesome Challengers card (If Zaromskis vs. Spirit Wolf doesn't intrigue you along with the apparently iron chinned woman Jan Finney making a return, what the fuck does make you care?)

The bad news of the day is Mousasi taking another bullshit fight, MMA with a washed up K1 guy pushing forty. Damn he's fallen in 2010.
jfjjfjff- November 18, 2010 at 11:49 am
i'm all for goofing on shit, but this strikes me as kind of low. the guy is just trying to follow his passion, but facing the damage that his body has suffered.

furthermore the title is such a stinging misrepresentation of the obvious meaning of the quote "I want to get in the cage and fight like a 275-pound Clay Guida." the title makes it seem like someone is describing him as such, which is clearly not the case.

TL;DR -- fuck this post. let the guy live his life.
Douchebaggery- November 18, 2010 at 11:19 am
any good fighters named "wes"?
Lysol- November 18, 2010 at 11:07 am
Since you've sarcastically proclaimed Shamrock/Ivey Fight of the Week, how about sarcastically calling this one Fight of the Decade?
agentsmith- November 18, 2010 at 11:05 am
Presuming his opponent Goldman Butler is this guy: hxxp://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Goldman-Butler-48845 ...then Wes should be pretty safe. Reach for the stars, Strikeforce. I'm surprised they didn't feed this guy to Bobby Lashley or Hershel Walker.
Viva Hate- November 18, 2010 at 11:02 am
Hopefully Wes shows up with a better gas tank because on TUF he gassed pathetically. That being said he should have won his fight on TUF against McSweeney, he did way more even though he was completely spent 2 minutes into the fight.
Fried Taco- November 18, 2010 at 10:37 am
Can't wait to not watch this fight.
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