
The July issue of Fight! Magazine (featuring a cover story by a dashing young writer who shall remain nameless) introduces the first four members of the magazine’s newly-created Hall of Fame. This is great to see, since it gives us an honest, legitimate MMA Hall of Fame instead of the incredibly limited and necessarily biased UFC Hall of Fame. It’s also voted on by MMA journalists and not event promoters. You know, like the real Hall of Fames do it. Also like the real Hall of Fames for baseball and football and sports mascots, you can’t help but look at some of the inductees and wonder whether they could really compete with the talent of today.
For instance, in addition to Kazushi Sakuraba and Bas Rutten, both Royce Gracie and Ken Shamrock made the first class of inductees, and for obvious reasons. Both were pioneers of the sport and helped shape our early concept of what MMA was all about.
But when you look at someone like Royce Gracie you can’t escape the fact that he mostly earned his spot by submitting a bunch of guys who didn’t know a wristlock from a wristwatch. That’s not necessarily his fault. He beat the guys who were around at the time, and that included dudes like Shamrock and Dan Severn, but it also included guys like Art Jimmerson and “The Black Dragon” Ron van Clief.
Looking at Gracie now is a little like looking at the guys who were the kings of pro baseball back when it was a small, insular world of white guys in floppy caps. Could they compete against today’s athletes? Probably not (except maybe Ty Cobb, although he would certainly be locked up for life these days). Does that mean they don’t deserve a spot in the Hall of Fame? No. They still belong, because even if it was a different sport back then, they were still the best at it and that’s all you can really ask for.
Then there’s Shamrock, who’s gone out of his way in recent years to tarnish his own image. Between positive steroid tests (okay, Royce rode that train as well) and sad, freakish fights that served no purpose at all, and even to his somewhat suspicious exit from the Kimbo Slice fight, it’s hard to defend Shamrock’s reputation. It brings up the same question other sports Hall of Fames have been battling for years: does character count?
The answer most of them come up with is, only sometimes. Pete Rose, who is banned for betting on baseball while coaching the Cincinnati Reds, still can’t get into the Hall of Fame. Other players who were drug addicts and wife beaters and just generally bad people? Yeah, they’re there.
So do we give Shamrock a pass on the last four years just because of the first twelve? Kind of seems like we have to. Even if a guy insists on embarrassing himself in the twilight of his career by refusing to let go, it doesn’t erase what he did in his prime. Just ask Brett Favre. And Rickey Henderson. And Willie Mays. And…you get the point.








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commentsB. So "sportswriters" vote on HOFs in other sports. What makes these HOFs more credible? People like Peter Gammons, Jay Mariotti, and Bob Ryan equal credibility? Give me a break. Just because a newspaper has hired someone to write doesn't mean that they should be deciding who are the greats in a sport. The fact that McGwire has been kept out even though no positive 'roids test of him exists. Joe Jackson has been kept out despite overwhelming evidence he did not cheat.
Sportswriter play favorites and take hollow "moral" stances despite their own questionable behaviors. I'll take B&B any day.
Again, no disrespect intended (well, actually I guess it sort of is)
Fuck off.
B&B are very credible journalists.
You don't know what the fuck you're yapping about!
Keep your Baloney flaps shut til then jerkoff.
The next great MMA sportswriter will be the first one.
Also, he was allowed a Gi/dobok, which changes the ability to submit people quite a bit. I think just the addition of wearing a Gi would change the level of success of many modern MMA fighters
And what about weight classes? I have a hard time naming even one of todays fighters fighting at Gracie's weight that I would put into fights against the heavys and still consider them a favorite. Who even stands a chance against Frank Mir/Brock at 170? Anyone? A betting favorite going in? It seems obsurd to even consider.
Bottom Line - Royce Gracie is a legend in MMA that will never again be seen or duplicated. Period.
UFC isn't a league, it's a promotions company. So the NFL/CFL/XFL comparison doesn't really work. It's like talking about a Don King Hall of Fame vs. a Boxing Hall of Fame.
It's such a great fucking idea and non limited!
Lets go and tell NFL that they their hall of fame is shit as we aren't including CFL or XFL players.
1. If not for his fight with Hackney, the UFC wouldn't have been able to realize why rules are a good thing.
2. Say what you want about Clay Guida's granite chin, but he has nothing on Joe Son's balls of steel.
3. So what if he's in prison for rape... that was something that happened outside the cage. Right? Uh, hello?
It's nice to see Sakuraba and Rutten get some much deserved attention. Both certainly belong in a MMA Hall of Fame.
And Gracie? Come on...it's Royce Gracie! I understand the argument about van Clief and Jimmerson. But Royce came onto the scene and changed the face of combat sports forever.
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