The unsatisfying post-fight explanation has become something of a tradition for UFC middleweight champ Anderson Silva. After putting on performances that are either bizarre, boring, or both, he inevitably ends up at the press conference after the event, trying to explain through his manager/translator, Ed Soares, why he just forced us to sit through another fight that featured only occasional bursts of offense among extended periods of posturing and playing.
After a decision win over Demian Maia at UFC 112 that saw Silva essentially stop fighting altogether in the final two rounds, the story went that he was trying to punish Maia for his “disrespect.” In the lunchtime video interview above, Soares repeats that claim, insisting that Maia “talked a lot of crap before the fight, and said a lot of things personally about Anderson.” Because of such an unprecedented show of disrespect – who ever heard of talking trash about an opponent before a fight, after all? – Silva got emotional and “wanted to make him pay.”
Here’s where we could ask why making Maia pay didn’t include any sustained attempts to knock him out at any point during the fight. We could also ask how spending the final two rounds running in circles was supposed to make Maia suffer. But we won’t. Instead we’ll ask, how exactly did Maia disrespect Silva before the fight?
Here’s one pre-fight interview where Maia describes the champ as “the best fighter in the world” as well as “the most complete fighter in the world.” Even when Maia says that Silva can be defeated, his reasoning seems predicated solely on the fact that, at least as far as we know, Silva is a human being. Unless Silva can produce some DNA tests that will refute that claim, he can’t really get too pissed off about that statement.
Additionally, in a story on UFC.com Maia said of Silva:
“What can I say, he’s the best fighter in the world, pound for pound. He’s good in everything that he does, and so far it’s the biggest challenge of my life.”
Oh, the insolence of this guy.
What seems to have irked Silva more, however, was Maia’s pre-fight remark about trying to take one of “The Spider’s” eight limbs home with him. This obviously wasn’t intended as a literal prediction by Maia, who presumably knows that Silva isn’t an actual spider any more than Keith Jardine is an actual dean at the prestigious Mean University, but rather it was a bit of word play expressly for the purposes of the pre-fight hype reel.
What’s more, as pre-fight trash talk goes it’s incredibly tame. When Dan Henderson said that Silva was not the best fighter in the world prior to their match-up at UFC 82, Silva didn’t respond by trying to humiliate him over the course of five rounds. Instead he put him away in two. When James Irvin cast doubts on Silva’s punching power, he was repaid with a quick knockout finish. So what unforgivable trash talk sin did Maia commit that could possibly justify the taunting and the mockery that we saw on Saturday?
We can probably find our answer in the inconsistency of Silva’s post-fight remarks. First, in the Octagon with Joe Rogan, he said he didn’t know what came over him. Just a few minutes later in the post-fight presser, he had figured out that what came over him was rage at Maia’s “disrespect.” Funny how quickly he put that together.
The more we see this kind of behavior from Silva, the more we have to consider that something in his mind just isn’t working right. If he can really see disrespect in Maia’s lukewarm trash talk, and if he really thinks what he did in Abu Dhabi was a suitable response, then this is not a man with his feet planted firmly on the ground. Maybe the culprit isn’t all the trash talk, but rather the praise. Maybe you can only hear about how great you are for so long before it starts to go to your head. Maybe that’s when you become an intolerable jerk who is completely disconnected from reality.
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Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:00
I already signed a letter of intent to Mean University...if it's true that Jardine is in fact, *Not* the Dean there, can I back out?
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:02
I also planned on attending Mean University. I was looking to get my major in Viking Technology and a minor in Herky Jerky Gatekeeping.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:05
Yeah I pretty much agree with everything in this post. I'm sick of Silva's bullshit and so are a lot of other people. That guy has got some serious work to do to earn back the respect of his fellow fighters, the trust of the fans, and the goodwill of the UFC. Putting Silva's name on a PPV now as the headliner is a surefire way to get WEC numbers. I have no desire to see any of his fights any time soon, that's for sure. Anderson "The Liability" Silva. Fuck him.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:07
I actually figured this out today, by luck of my overly incredible sense of genius in finding articles that explain anything. I blame CTE. No, really. http:// www .time.com /time/video/ player/0,32068,64253995001_1957921,00.html
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:07
I'd like to know what was said between Silva and Maia when they hugged it out after the fight. And I'd still like to know why Silvas gloves weren't taped.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:07
@failingevolution I think that in order to move on to a major in "Viking Technology" you have to do a bachelor's degree in "Biology of The Glass Jaw".
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:07
cagepotato please put together a list under the power rankings of the most hated/douchiest fighters in mma
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:13
(I know I will catch hell for this, so, blow me in advance) Ali was the greatest so they say and I watched him taunt opponents but he always fought. what part of "combat sport" slipped the translation for Anderson?. Ya know he is so frickin' awesome and thats what sucks. He could have put that guy away in one round. His excuse is bullshit and I hope someone gets his ass wwhhuuppeedd. Maybe he will wake up and get back to being the fighter he could be. GSP stay away!!
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:14
It infuriates me that after seeing his own antics on tape after the fight, Silva doesn't feel he owes anybody and apology. You have to be a pretty serious nuthugger to not have been angry after watching that crap the other night. Obviously, Anderson Silva is a HUGE Anderson Silva nuthugger!
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:16
El Topo - I noticed his gloves weren't taped either, which my friends thought was no big deal...so I spent the 25min he was wasting my time by arguing that he never intended to fight, and therefore they didn't need to be taped.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:18
Curious question... at roughly the 1:00 minute mark in the video is that Demian Maia walking with travel bags behind Soares? It almost looked like it could have been, and it seemed as though the videographer was trying to move the camera just a bit to get them into frame without tipping off Soares that they were trying to catch a shot of something else. It seems extra cheap for Soares to be pulling the Silva was disrespected line while Maia could be in the same room. Unless Maia had interview(s) in Brazil where he royally trashed Anderson, it's hard to imagine milquetoast fight hype would really warrant that kind of childish reaction from Silva.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:22
I like the idea of Silva moving up and getting pummeled by any of the top contenders (lesnar, carwin, velasquez, dos santos)...hell, I'd enjoy him fighting Couture or Nogueira even. The dude is naturally a 205er, even without his BS antics, it's stupid for Dana White to allow him to drop to 170. I'm hoping big time for a Shogun victory next month against Machida...once he isn't holding the belt, I believe Silva will move up full-time. Even still, I wouldn't pay $2 for a Silva Main Evented PPV.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:24
that was infuriatingly disrespectful way to showcase one's amazing set of skills
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:26
I think he's related to Paulo Filho. Anderson is definitely a little right of center.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:27
Bullshit. Anderson is using the old "he talked shit pre-fight" defense. Fuck him. Evidently, Silva and his corner were talking mad shit in Portuguese during the fight - here's what I pulled from some other web sources: ********** Fighters Only shares what Anderson Silva was yelling at Demian Maia during their fight at UFC 112: Anderson is said to have cried out “Cade o Jiu-Jitsu?” (”Where is your Jiu-Jitsu?”) as Maia failed to get him to the floor, and also told him “Get up off your ass and get hit some more” when Maia dropped to his back looking to play guard. But it was his corner that unleashed the more ‘controversial’ smack: Several Brazilian UFC fans have contacted Fighters Only to say that this comment actually came from Anderson’s corner team, who said to him “Bate na cara desse playboy” (”Come on, hit this playboy’s face”). Anderson’s corner are also alleged to have shouted “Falou demais, agora apanha” (”You talked too much, now get spanked”). Maia claims not to remember exactly what it was Anderson said to him in their fight. Odd as it sounds, ‘playboy’ is a serious insult in Brazil when levelled at certain targets. The stark class and economic divides in Brazil make for a wide gulf in status between the rich and poor. In Brazilian terms, a playboy is a hedonist rich kid, the product of a pampered upbringing who cares little for the poor and knows nothing of real life. ****************** The level of disrespect shown by Silva and his corner is inexcusable. Now I hate Silva even more than Tito Ortiz, Brock Lesnar, and Josh Barnett - and I fuckin' hate those guys.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:28
Not that it would ever happen, but I would like to see Jon Jones versus the Spider. I
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:28
We all know Anderson is the greatest fighter to ever step inside the octagon/ring. And his antics surely put him up there with another champion by the name of Lesnar. While we would all love to see knockouts or great submisisons which by the way make great fights most of the time, Silva sure knows how to keep us entertained well over 2 minutes. And this is good for us PPV customers who shell out 40-45 bucks to see great fights...or at least see them last a bit longer than 2 min. I think Silva is aware of how quickly he can defeat his opponents once he feels them out and so decides to take it to the later rounds. While his antics and unwillingness to put his opponents away pisses many off, it just cements his legacy as the greatest champion who no one can touch. Who cares if he's a douchebag? Some champs are humble, some are crazy and disrespectul, who cares? MMA is MMA and if u can't touch the guy whatcha gonna do? Just keep throwing guys at him. Let's see him go to 170 or heavyweight...that'd be great...or bad for the UFC...but who cares. In the end, we all wanna see fights...and we wanna see the greatest fight.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:29
I have just had a fucking epiphany! Anderson Silva vs James Toney. Genius!
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:29
Hmmm, thinking of changing mi nombre here. Too many "El"s for my liking. But I'm so f'kn handsome. Ahhh, what to do, what to do? And I gotta agree on this one... What better way to punish a disrespectful opponent than to beat the living shit outta him?
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:33
Anderson "The Fuckwad" Silva.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:35
Anderson got tired. He slacked off and was acting like an idiot running in circles. How the fuck does he think he was "beating up" or "punishing" Damien? If he wanted to punish him, he should have knocked him the fuck out. Waste my fuckin' money. I want to see the jui-jitsu/wrestling chess matches and the even fights. But this shit?? I think Dana should snatch that belt off him and make him earn it back. I like the idea of dropping down to 170. ;) Feed his ass to GSP. GSP will pick him up and show him what it's like to fight off his back. Fuck it, give Anderson to Brock next. There's no way in hell he could possibly handle Brock. Brock would walk right through his stand up and place him on the mat, and from there show him how to get hit by a pile of bricks with a glove wrapped around it. That would please me. Yessss.....Hell, if Silva beat Brock I'd still like it. ;)
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:36
It seems like Ed Soares has remained relatively unscathed throughout this whole ordeal, so let me correct that injustice by saying he is an absolute cunt. All this piece of shit ever does is talk about how every fight offered to Anderson is not good enough for him, and then defending why they go to decision with little to no offense. Why not be honest and admit theres a problem with your client and promise to work on it? And the nerve of him to back up the claim that Maia disrespected Silva. Even if Maia told Anderson he fucked his mother backstage when they touched gloves, it wouldn't matter. Millions of people paid to watch you fight, and you didn't do that. Anderson Silva is essentially a faggot who somehow was blessed with the God-given ability to knock out other men. A cruel, cruel joke indeed.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:37
nope. once you agree to go to Mean University, they make you attend, all the while not offering the classes you need to graduate, delaying your financial aid to make you beg obrrow and steal to get the tuition payments, and then they will room you with the worst peice of **** roomate they can find (who also gets free room and board as well as ful paid tuition, while they are scheduled for the classes you need but they are so drunk/stoned/f*d up that they dont even attend, but still get straigt A's. It wouldnt be Mean University if they didnt do this to you! and the fact that they used Keith Jardine to lure you in and not have him realyl there is your equivalent to the "freshman orientation" course. Grimmy doesnt even want to talk about the application process for the school of hard knox (shudders)
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:37
@cecil "Now I hate Silva even more than Tito Ortiz, Brock Lesnar, and Josh Barnett - and I fuckin' hate those guys." Word. Combined.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:37
Lord, get off his cock already! You give him an opponent who attempts to bring a fight to the champ, you get a first or second round knock out. You give him three undeserving fighters in a row who ALL want to lay on their backs at every single possible opportunity, you get what we have seen. Next, you will most likely see Chael in there, followed by a first or second round TKO, completed by all of you scrubrat (just invented this word) haters back on his cock about how hes the greatest. Bottom line to Dana White, or anyone else doing the match making, when you have the GREATEST P4P fighter in the world, and your giving him Damien Maia......its almost insulting. Give him a challenge or stop crying when the other guy keeps falling over of his own volition. You Bitches.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:39
James Toney!
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:43
One obvious moral to this bizarre story is that if I, in this or some parallel universe, were ever slated to fight Anderson Silva I would talk SERIOUS trash, enough to make Dan Hardy look like Gandhi. That way I'll at least not get the shit kicked out of me. But seriously. Many people are suggesting that Anderson is not all there mentally. I think it's more a question of him being "too there." To me, Silva embodies the fine line between genius and insanity. When people don't understand genius, they label it insanity, because it's so different than conventional thought. I was, at first, as disappointed as the rest of the MMA world at Silva's performance. But the more I think about it, especially in light of his translated post-fight comments, the more it makes a little sense. I now think he is simply opperating on another level, that, just as he is usually a step or two ahead of his opponents, he may also be a step or two ahead of the fans. Silva seems very committed to certain martial arts codes. All his anti-trash talk, all his bowing, etc. Well I'm no expert, but it seems that in many martial arts traditions there are rules against doing more than is necessary to remove the threat that your opponent poses. Has Silva evolved to the point where he prefers not to take year's off his opponents life when he's determined that the opponent poses negligible threat? In terms of the fight game, and strategy, by takinf the first three rounds, the Spider laid a simple trap: Maia had no chance at a decision, so his only option was to come after the Spider. I find it brilliant. It forces the opponent to rise to the occasion, and to a certain extent Maia did so. In fact, Silva arguably did Maia a favor. Maia's stock may have gone up a bit because of what happened in the later rounds, whereas if gone down in the first or second rounds he'd have proven nothing. Meanwhile, by letting Maia stay in the fight, the door was open to a more interesting outcome. It's also interesting to note that the few strikes Silva did throw were unique, surprising, accurate, and devastating. He truly put on a clinic. His degree of physical and mental domination was otherworldly. As for his antics...they strike me as somewhat akin to the non-sensical outbursts that monks and gurus make toward their studnets. Like when that Japanese guy slapped Lyoto Machida in the face, and Machida bowed in response. Silva is a genius and a scholar, and his antics could be seen as centuries of absorbed martial arts knowledge and lore reprocessed through the unique mind of Anderson Silva. Another thing the antics demonstrate is the degree of Jedi mind domination that Silva possesses. I started noticing this at the weigh-ins. During their staredown, Maia started with fists raised, but Anderson kept his hands down. In response, Maia dropped his hands. Then before the fight, it seemed like Silva basically instructed Maia to drop into that jujitsu bow. Again, after the fight, Silva got Maia to bow. It was total physical and mental domination, except, arguably, during the final two rounds, when Maia seemed to have shaken off Silva's Jedi mind tricks. Maia basically called bullshit and went after Silva, and I doubt Silva would have dared strike his sprinter's pose against that version of Maia - he would have been tackled. I'm not trying to comment authoritatively as much as share some musings. It's often said that people hate what they don't understand. I think it's a safe bet that we simply don't understand Anderson Silva. Maybe he's trying to tell us something.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:43
@Beatingu said "Lord, get off his cock already!". Bro, this isn't the place to try and sell your "Jesus Didn't Tap" gear.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:44
He ran around in circles. He should have put his lights out in round one. That would actually prove the point. What if they put him up against someone who had a style like Machida?Someone has to be the attacker for there to be any counters. He needs to adapt or fuck off. I want to see a fighter, not a defender.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:45
I could've sworn Anderson had eight legs when i watched the fight. Did you see how fast he was circling the octagon to get away from exchanging with Maia in the final rounds? You'd have to be a tremendous athlete to do it that fast on only two legs
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:45
james Toney!
Mon, 04/12/10 - 10:48
Fuck Silva fighting GSP or Brock, I think the UFC should sit him permanently and strip him of his title. The only fight he deserves is Kalib Starnes, where I think they could generate enough power by running around the ring together to fuel a small village! Seriously though, I really think he's a coward. He's evasive to the point of shutting down fights, and is only interested in not taking damage and counter punching. He gets all riled up and taunts his opponents into striking with him with his hands down, but the whole time he's looking to sneak a punch in, that's not someone who's genuinely looking for a striking war or even bored. But above everything else, it's his intentional humiliation of his opponents that really bothers me. In a sport centered around respect, he's done nothing but clown his last 5 or so challengers. It's great to say "the best remedy is to put him up against a great fighter to get a beat down", but really, after all the work put in to legitimize the sport, do you really wanna see a prick like him who takes the sport back several notches every time he fights, fight a guy like GSP who's done wonders? I was in Montreal for the Leites fight, and the only thing stopping me from leaving was the ridiculous ticket price. I couldn't imagine at that point that the same thing would happen again.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:06
Speaking of Keith Jardine, I spotted him in last week's episode of "Breaking Bad" in a bit-part as a small-time drug dealer. Then he and his friend both got their asses kicked by one fat DEA agent. I guess that unorthodox style doesn't work so well on the street.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:09
Silva decided to win the fight easily and then coast. He won 3 rounds clearly, and then gave his opponent only one choice: finish the fight. It was humiliating to Maia, and not very entertaining, but his goal was simple: win without taking damage. I think showing the world that Maia is not anywhere near his level was a bonus. I'm still a fan of Silva, because he is the only fighter that has cleared out his division, changed weight classes and dominated. Unrelated question: Why doesn't GSP go up to MW, seems easier than Silva going down to WW.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:10
An open letter to Chael Sonnen from everyone on the interwebz. Dear Mr. Sonnen, I know we've had our differences in the past. Most of the time I think you're a cocky dick that needs a beating, however I think its time to put all that behind us. Chael, please put Anderson Silva on his back and turn his face into mush. Please recoup our losses from what we've spent to watch Anderson Silva be a douche bag in the ring on multiple occasions in the form of medical bills and reconstructive surgery. Please put an elbow upside his dome and break his orbital ala "Bones" Jones. Please drop some hammer fists and move his nose under his eye. Please give him a gaping head-gina that would make Diego Sanchez jealous. Make him beg for mercy in the queen's english. Do this for us, and we will be forever indebted to you. Sincerely, MMA fans worldwide
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:14
Yep he's a probably the UFC's best p4p counter puncher but what most people are now finding out is he's also the worlds best classless boogaloo monkey acting wet flopping douche out there! That is unless Rashad "Sugar" Evans has anything to say about that of course. Why don't they just put them two in the cage together so they can both stand in there about 10 feet from each other and have an ol school dance off because they are both way more concerned with showing there a$$ than actually fighting. Just ring the bell crank the sound system up and watch nature take it's course! I'm telling you we wouldn't know if we were supposed to be watching an actual MMA cage match or auditions for the next "You got Served" movie!
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:15
Silva has previously stated that he would retire at the end of his contract, and when he is 35. He turns 35 this year, and he only has 2 more fights on his contract...I say make him fight 2 more times this year, then just don't re-sign him. Strikeforce already has one champ that never fights, if they want a 2nd, let them have him...then at least Henderson will get his rematch.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:15
what's a dickfor? No, for serious, i would sign this letter. CC one to Vitor Belfort as well.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:17
@agentsmith Doesn't work so well in the ring either. :)
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:17
@agentsmith That was Jardine! I thought it was but didn't see his name in the credits. Did they really need to get a pro fighter to play that part though? Walter White's bro-in-law took him out quicker than Thiago Silva. And I actually believe that Chael Sonnen can take that title from Silva. It may be a grind that goes to decision, possibly even a boring lay and pray (although the Marquardt fight was anything but), but it will get the title off of Silva, who can then just finish out his contract in super fights. If Chael can't do it, then let him just forfeit it and lets move on with the division.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:18
@Organ Donor Dude, thanks for saying all that stuff. I noticed the same mastery he had over Maia's will at the weigh ins and the glove touch. Even at that early stage, Silva was making Maia calibrate to his will. It's high level creepy stuff. Really cool. I also think Silva is operating at a different level. I also think there is something really wrong with him. I think it's basically that he's too good for the UFC environment. All that corporate America/media hell bullshit sends him into crazy land. I don't think he's quite reached the level of awareness at which he'd really be 'trying to tell us something'. I DO think that he's operating at a higher level than almost everybody else (not just fighting - all of it) and it's driving him crazy. It's maddeningly lonely to be that aware. I didn't enjoy the fight but I do think I learned something. Still processing it all though.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:19
An open letter to Mr. Herbert I would love to dance Fred Savage!
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:20
"Keith Jardine is an actual dean at the prestigious Mean University" thats some funny shit
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:22
@hotsaucemonster. I already put together a list of the top five p4p biggest douches in MMA a few months ago and I believe I put Anderson Silva (excuse me, I mean "Half-douche, Half-dimensional" [trust me, this nickname is gonna take off, it's perfect {wow, brackets inside of parentheses, is that legal}]) at the top. I need to change it though, because I think I put BJ as 2 or 3 and after the way he handled this recent loss by congratulating edgar and not bitching so far (that I'm aware of) I think he should be taken off the list. Why is Anderson's performance still a mystery to so many people? He didn't finish the fight because he's too scared of being knocked out or taken down to initiate the striking exchange. He is a pussy. If you could teach what anderson silva does you would have the greatest self-defense system ever created, but this isn't the Ultimate Self-defense Championships, it's the Ultimate FIGHTING Championships. The goal is to get in there and finish your opponent, not defend yourself successfully. Everyone seems to understand that GSP takes opponents down because that gives him the best chance to beat his opponent with the least risk. Anderson silva does the same thing but to a much higher degree, absolutely refusing to go to the ground unless his opponent is half unconscious. At least GSP strikes with his opponents for periods during the fight. Another thing that Silva's only exciting fights in recent time have in common besides being against aggressive strikers is that they are not title fights. Solution? Strip Anderson of the belt, and make him fight in light heavy. edit: i just looked at sherdog and they have articles saying the same thing I just said, including the stripping of the belt thing. So I'm not a moron, or at least not the only moron, for saying this.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:26
@ cecils_pupils Thanks for that translation from that article. That actually sheds some light on Anderson's bullshit. In the Countdown, it definitely looked like Maia came from a wealthier part of Sao Paulo, and I know Anderson's background is very poor. It seems a lot of times when Brazilians fight Brazilians there are a lot of cultural undertones that we aren't necessarily getting. Sometimes they hate someone because of where they train or who they train under, sometimes they have class warfare issues, or sometimes they simply don't want to fight fellow Brazilians. There was also some issue about Maia training at Black House, or by some Black House people, that pissed Anderson off (understandably). No matter what it was, this kind of unprofessional crap shouldn't be tolerated any more than when Babalu held on to a choke too long because he felt disrespected. Anderson needs to grow the fuck up.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:31
@ fACE7biter: Jardine's been picking up several little "tough guy" parts like this in the last year or two... the fact that he really is a fighter is kinda irrelevant, I mean just look at him. Plus both he and the show are based out of Albuquerque, so I imagine he was just conveniently available. And yeah, pretty funny to watch ol' Hank smash him even faster than Wanderlei Silva.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:34
I'm not the first to point this out, but I think Anderson did what he did not because of Maia, and not because of something wrong w/ Anderson. He's bored. He doesn't want to fight at 185 anymore, but he's probably getting pressure from UFC to keep defending the belt. He wants to fight at LHW, but Dana is jerking him around, saying he has to fight his friend. He wanted to fight Roy Jones, and Dana blocked it. So he's showing up Dana. He's saying "So, you want to have a big show in UAE, yes? Well screw your big show." Right? Wrong? I don't know. I do know that this is part of the deal when you have independent contractors instead of employees--they tend to feel more empowered to do what they want, and when they are blocked from that, they get pissy. I also know that I have been a bitch and shown up my bosses in the past. I bet a lot of other people here have, too. It sucks that the fight was boring. And he probably should screw us over in his pissing contest with his boss. But I understand the game Anderson is playing.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:35
Anderson should die of gonorrhea and rot in Hell.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:37
I watched the Lietes fight for money and found nothing wrong with Silva's performance. If the guy paid to fight you flops to his back why is that on you? Dana needs to quit matching up chumps or quit bitchin'. Seriously he was sooooo upset about Thale but why not get heated at Thale? @organ donor-- you may be on to something sealing the decision and making him go for it. Still Silva is still probably the best fighter p4p of all-time
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:39
I guess based on this logic Nate Quarry insulted Khalib Starnes more than any other man has ever insulted another in the history of combat sports.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:39
@macreadysshack I agree with Silva probably isn't trying to "tell us something," at least consciously. But it would be interesting to really understand what he's thinking, if that's possible. Clearly, he has a different understanding of what a fight is, and what the purpose of fighting in a cage is. And given that he's the best fighter in the world, he deserves an attempt to be understood. Chances are he might have a point or two, if he were able to articulate them. Given the clumsiness of his responses thus far I don't believe he understands himself what happened. Maybe after the artist has had some time to contemplate his piece, he'll be able to realize what he was trying to say. Unless or until he is able to communicate effectively, then like you said he might be lonely in his aweseomeness. At the very least, it's time for him to start speaking English. All I know is, I started off disgusted by the fight. But as I continue to stew on it, I notice that I can't stop stewing on it. And I can't help wondering if years from now MMA scholars will look back on this fight as a very significant example of something.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:41
To be fair Maia did not deserve to be the target of Anderson's satire
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:44
Dear lowbrow ufc fans - Silva practices martial arts on a level above the average American's consciousness. He assimilates (copies) his opponent's style and uses it against them, by moving faster and more effectively. Maia said he was going to beat Silva with arm bars and rear naked chokes... really?? beat the undefeated champ, with a ju jitsu black belt using beginner moves? Silva chose to disgrace Maia by completely obliterating the challenger's weak game plan, and taking the fight out of the judges hands. If your IQ was higher than your testosterone level, it should have been clear to see that Silva had no desire to knock out an easy target with a broken nose and an eye swollen shut. The only disgrace was on Dana White's part, in choosing such a weak opponent (for the third straight time) and the horrible outdoor venue. Anyone who is complaining about paying for the PPV, or the level of action; do us all a favor and switch over to WWE: You are embarrassing yourself and the fans who do truly understand this sport. Now if I have insulted anyone, I apologize- but loose the childish homophobic comments, and maybe go one step further and have meaningful dialog without the use of such delightfully witty praises such as "nut-hugging". And remember: Anderson Silva TKO'd Forrest Griffin by accident in the first round, and we all remember how disappointing and unsatisfying that was.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:44
Problem with this article is, there is a lot more behind this disrespect than what you get on the media. Brazil's fighting culture is very different from the USA. Training at different gyms with different coaches is unacceptable and seen as betrayal (Victor belford in shunned upon because of this). There is a lot of rivalry between BJJ practicioners and Muay Thay. There is huge rivalry between gyms... and all of this happens in a small buble in which everybody knows everybody. So eventhough the media reports on some stuff, it doesn't report on the gym talk, the stuff that goes on and is passed on by the gossip channels. You must understand that MMA in Brazil is a whole different world. There you don't have "casual" MMA fans (fat guys wearing football jerseys booing because the fight is on the ground). If you like MMA and follow it, you either have in the past or you are currently training BJJ or MT. Another interesting fact is that here in the states people talk trash all the time. In a bar you'll talk trash and then the worst that might happen is two dudes looking like idiots with their foreheads glued to eachothers screaming "watchagonnadoaboudit?" kind of just waiting for the first puch so they can claim self defense in court. If they do get in a fight everyone goes to jail and gets slapped with a law suit. In Brazil NO ONE gets away with trash talk. If you say crap, you have to back it up. If a brazilian talks crap about you it's because he hates you and will smash you face in as soon as he gets a chance, So in other words, yes, what might seem like lukewarm trash talk by american standards are fighting words back there in Brazil. If fighters in Brazil went on TV and said some of the stuff we hear over here in the states before the fight they wouldn't be able to leave home. First time they went out and ran into some of the other fighters friends and he would probably get the snot beaten out of him. It's an unwriten honour code where if you say anything that diminishes a person, or a gym, or even the Martial Art, you have to be ready to back it up. What Im trying to say is that, you will never understand were these guys mean by disrespect if you don't know what that is for them. i'm not condoning AS's actions. I had a lot of fun watching the fight and hearing him taunting Damian asking him where was his jiu-jitsu, offering his arms for him to pull out and the best one was when he called Damian a Playboy, which is a derrogatory term we use in Brazil for rich and spoiled kids. He should've just finished Damian in the third round, but he just is too afraid to lose is belt. That loss to Ryo Chonan made scrared of risking himself. and that's that.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:44
@Organ Donor..."Silva seems very committed to certain martial arts codes." I guess that doesn't include straight kicks to knee caps...where I come from, those are cheap shots. They may be legal in UFC, but they are cheap as hell. Show me any other fighter employing those straight kicks to the front of the knee like Silva was doing on Saturday night.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:47
As I posted yesterday, the "Maia disrespected me" line does not fly. Leben "I'm gonna walk through his shots", Irvin "I am going to show him why there is weight classes in the UFC" may be interpreted as disrespect(outcomes drastically different from Maia). I was at UFC97 and in the promo vid Leites says "He will have to knock me out to stop me" immeadiately they showed Anderson's reaction(Anderson was just smiling) and then the fighters came out(we all know what happend next. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MAIA DISRESPECTING SILVA. The only thing I could possibly underline in explaing Silva on Saturday and at UFC97 is that perhaps he is so good that he can influence a fight on his own....If he wants to end it he can, if he wants it to go to the judges it can.....what would you do if you had the power to do that? I know I would probably bet money I my fights....I am sure the line for Maia vs Silva going the distance was pretty nice, maybe Anderson did something we don't know, like put cash down that he would win by descision??? Maybe he did that at UFC97 too???? That's about all I can say for what I saw at 112 and 97 from Silva, this is the only lense I can see through that makes this more clear. @Cecils Pupils Hate Silva more than Tito? NEVER! I agree though that as discussed yesterday he put me back to zero with recruiting members for UFC on Saturday nights moving forward.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:47
Also, I just remembered another interesting fact that goes on in the fight world in Brazil. The new conspiracy theory there is that the UFCis making more and more brazilians fight eachother that we they eliminate themselves out of the competition, oppening up spots for american fighters to contend for belts. Again, I don't agree with it, but this is what goes on. During the press conference, Ed Soares, as usual, picks and chooses what he trasnlates. Anderson actually said that the UFC and had to think more about their matchmaking before they but Brazilians to fight eachother. So there you go, a little more wood to fuel the fire...
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:53
Is it just me, or is Ed Soares a total faggot?
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:55
What the hell is Mr. Pick-and-choose-what-I-translate's name anyway? Is Ed Soares' name pronounced "Sore-ez"? Or is it pronounced like Rogan was saying it, "Swah-rez" - kind of like Rico Suave?
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:55
@Mikeraphon Nice observation, good call on the cheap shot to the kneecap. Last time I saw that was Silva v. Leites and Silva only threw it like once or twice(a bunch of us commented on that in the crowd that night....it being a cheap shot and all) At UFC 89 Vera threw one of those shots at Jardine during their "barn burner" and after the fight Rogan asked Jardine if the fight basically sucked/slowed considerably due to that stike, Jardine confirmed that it buckled his knee and he could not really put weight on it for the rest of the fight.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 12:02
@Mikeraphon Well, again, I'm no expert on martial arts codes. But if your goal is to reduce the threat your opponent poses, then I'd say a kick to the knee is a pretty good opening move against someone who wishes to take you down and submit you. In fact, I'd call it methodical, surgical, smart, and effective. Maia's shot looked pathetic, and may have been rendered so by the kick to the knee of the leg which Maia would have to explode off of to get a takedown.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 12:04
Anderson Silva's reasoning is so dumb here. Seems though that people that are almost perfect at things have weird ways of thinking and acting.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 12:11
@Get Off Me and anyone else who cares Here's why I hate Silva more than Tito, Brock and the Baby Fat Assassin: Anderson Silva is smarter and more talented than all of these guys put together. If he is such a "pure martial artist" then he should operate with the level of respect a true warrior has. He has pissed away that respectful image - effectively pissing in the face of Dana, the UFC and the fans. The fans don't give two shits about the Brazilian-based rivalry either. As has been said by so many posts before: if the guy is so fuckin' talented and wants to make the other guy pay for disrespect - then FINISH HIM! This ain't Dancing With the Stars for fuck's sake. You can't blame Tito, Brock and Josh for being douchebags - it's in their nature. I expect(ed) more from Anderson Silva and he let me down. So fuck him.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 12:14
Excellent explanation cecils_pupils. Silva should know better, and should be held to a higher standard. Tito and the like simply can't help themselves.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 12:22
@Fernandobluebelt... I just combed the UFC.com list of fighters for all of the Middleweight Brazilians... Damian Maia Mario Miranda Rousimar Palhares Wanderlei Silva The only Brazilian he has ever faced in the octagon is Damian Maia. I don't see anyone clambering for a Silva/Miranda brawl, and I'm assuming he won't fight Wanderlei because they have the same last name...clearly off limits...for anyone to get behind a conspiracy theory like that is patently ridiculous. As for "thinking more about their matchmaking..." who is more deserving of a title shot at 185? Should Cote have gotten a rematch? Maybe Chael Sonnen (but he just fought in February)? There is no one at 185 who is a viable match to fight Silva, so he should be happy to dismantle whoever they put in front of him. These antics started with the first Patrick Cote fight, and have gotten progressively worse with each subsequent outing. I don't care what level Silva is on, it makes for lousy viewing. With Saturday's performance, Silva just earned a seat next to Nick Diaz on my list of guys I can't stand to watch fight.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 12:24
Anderson Silva's Diary: Today I was walking down the small village road to training came and saw a wild dog. It looked at me in a very disrespectful manner before trying to wander back off into the brush. I chased it for three miles and each time it turned to fight I shook my hips, swung my arms, and ran back away from it... That dog will never fuck with me again. I came home to find my mother baking fresh bread. I choked her out and hid her under a table cloth. I don't know what came over me?!?! Oh wait actually the smell of that fresh bread was disrespectful to me that's why I did it. Time for bed and it has been a long day. I spent the last half hour try to spit a web from my ass using my super human spider powers but only got a sore anus. I think I will decide to change my name to the Mosquito and instead use my super powers to buzz around the ring avoiding my oponents slaps and annoying then into recognizing my superior dominance and impecable skill. Good night diary and say goodbye to Mr. Ink Pen he has been very disrespectful today so I will be setting him on the desk and not using him for the next month to teach him a lesson. -yours truly Anderson the Mosquito Silva
Mon, 04/12/10 - 12:36
@ Organ Donor...and you would be right, Organ Donor if this fight took place in a bar. Throat strikes, eye gouges and kicks to the groin are all methodical, surgical, smart and particularly effective, but they are all illegal because of the damage they can inflict. Front kicks to the knee aren't illegal because its a difficult call (like Dos Anos' knees to the spine almost cost him a point). In either case, Silva has shown himself to be a cherry picking, cheap shot artist who taunts inferior competition. In essence, he is a bully.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 12:39
Thank you Anderson Silva for making my 10year old cousin cry in the 4th round. He thought his mom had changed the channel to Dancing with the Stars I hope a brazilian drug dealer bet on Silva having a first round KO and is now looking to do a drive by. It was also nice of Ed Soares to change what Anderson actually said so he didn't seem like such a dick
Mon, 04/12/10 - 12:48
Wow...now I have lost respect for Ed. So let me get this straight...after Silva got tired of mocking Maia after the second round, since he couldn't find his "reach" to put him away, he decides to continue to mock him more and RUN from him until the end of the fight. Yep, I guess that is how a fighter that is the best pound for pound fighter should handle a fight. And, don't let me leave out, that he should also try to hide behind the referee. PATHETIC for Silva and Ed. I listened to several videos of Maia talking about Silva and most of his commets were about how effective and great of a fighter Silva is, and how he (Maia) would have to overcome that. If you go back and watch the video where he made the comment about the "spider and arms" (that made Silva run away from Maia in the cage for a couple of rounds), it was almost a spot in the video at the end where Maia was trying to be funny. The entire video had been very serious and supportive to Silva up to the point where they were closing toward the end and Maia made that statement. Bottom-line...I think he got tired and was afraid to let Maia near him because he was afraid to lose his belt due to Mai taking him down. Not to mention, if you did notice the intitial leg kicks...those were buckle-knee kicks. Those are kicks that cause major damage and anyone knows those kicks. They are ofter used in street fights and self-defense moves. They are not black belt martial art practice kicks for the quality of martial arts "high-level" techniques. And if you can't agree with my opinion above, there are several fighters who talk trash, however, in return, they don't disgrace themself, the sport, their coaching staff, their employer (UFC), lose their fan base and possible MMA fan base, and humiliate their opponents. Take Silva out of the MMA world, and judge him as a random human being you see in all walks of life and see what the opinion of him would be treating everyone like that everytime he felt disrespected...I thought it was a sad moment. Maybe a great fighter, but a disrespectful, arrogant, self-centered individual. I guess it all depends on how you want to be remembered...
Mon, 04/12/10 - 01:02
@ rjStevens...that's good! :) @ organ donor...just because something isn't illegal in the UFC/MMa doesn't mean it isn't in poor taste...for God's sake!
Mon, 04/12/10 - 01:14
fuck silva... i hope they strip him of the belt
Mon, 04/12/10 - 01:16
I used to think that if there were one fighter I would spit on (if they were securely chained to a tree and I had a preplanned escape route and my super fast Nike's on) it would be Brock. But we never have to worry about Brock dancing for 5 rounds because he's mad at his opponent. If anything, we have to worry about him beating someone to death. Silva has officially become bad for business and I want to spit in his face (again, the tree and the Nike's) and never see him fight again.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 01:19
it seems like silva's overconfidence finally caught up with his ego. chael sonen will whoop his arse like what hendo did.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 01:24
I guess his one and only weakness is not being wrapped to tight in his head
Mon, 04/12/10 - 01:24
My honest opinion is Anderson Silva should be stripped of the title and forced to fight as the opening fight on free events like the fight nights and work his way back up through convincing victories in order to get another title shot. One more chance to once again be the champion or forever be remembered as a cautionary tale like Mark Kerr who could have had it all but were just too lazy and unfocused to achieve greatness. In my opinion greatness is achieved not just through complete dominance but also by earning the love and adoration of your fans. You've heard it before in the military, "Earning the Hearts and Minds of the people." Winning a battle is less than half the war. Eeking out a victory.... well I can only give my opinion on that, and that is that if someone is supposedly the best pound for pound fighter in the world he should be able to take the fight at any time he wants and FINISH it. If that's the way he considers to be championship form maybe he should play American football where if you’re ahead by enough points you can just run out the clock and not really finish your opponent. Fighting is a finish or die trying sport. It’s not for the faint of heart. It’s not for the weak of will. It’s not for those with casual interest. It is the embodiment of skills passed down over thousands of years that were intended to fight off enemies and win wars and has been softened down to a competitive sport but still lives strong in the hearts of those who truly practice mixed martial arts for the deep and powerful history it has forged. Lives and cultures have been lost based on the skill of one people’s warriors versus another. That acknowledgment is what a true champion should have. Each fight even in sport is for the spirit of those who came before you and gave so that you may compete FOR MONEY today. Perhaps that is his real problem that he is being paid too much for what he does. Maybe being paid based on his performance would motivate him to try harder however I doubt it. To me he is either afraid of a weakness in his ground game and that is why every single ground fight since Henderson he has done his dance routine or he just doesn’t have the heart a fighter needs for the sport anymore. He fought with Forest who was a stand up fighter and knocking him out... all be it while running back wards as well... but at least he fought. I’d gladly tell Anderson to his face that I think he is either afraid or doesn’t have the heart because the worst he could do is punch me and prove me wrong but honestly I think he would just try to look scary and make excused about legal issues for why he didn’t do anything where as a real champ like Chuck Liddell I believe would punch me in the face and pay off the lawsuit because his honor is it worth it to him. This is all just my opinion and I’d be glad to be wrong, as in $55 a pay per view wrong because like many of you I have spent over $200 to watch the same thing from Anderson and I’m sad to say I’m going to be forgoing any future pay per views with Anderson on the card because I’ll just watch the mediocre fight on Spike when they air it 3 months later for free. I’m also sad to say I have found myself loosing interest in UFC all together lately and enjoying some alternative venues but for the most part maybe loosing a little of the love I once had for the sport. I feel disappointed after each PPV as they seem so anticlimactic compared to the golden years of Chucks title run or back when Bas was choppin chumps in half with leg kicks or Randy was pounding out Vitor. Our pound for pound greatest fighters in the UFC are loosing close decisions like BJ, or winning by decisions like GSP and Anderson Silva. Even our light heavyweight champ wins a controversial decision. Outside of the heavyweight division the champs seem more like kids protecting their candy stash than warriors entering the octagon and the undercard fights are a lot more enjoyable with guys that have the hunger to climb to the top just to watch “The Champ” Dance around like he’s going to piss himself he has to go to the bathroom so bad. So I guess that’s it and just my opinion cuz there are a million of them out there. I hope that some kind of restructuring happens because I would hate to see the momentum stall out when the sport is achieving so much on so many other levels.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 01:26
oops
Mon, 04/12/10 - 02:03
@Cecil Pupils 100% agreed that Silva>Brock +Fucko+Baby Deca talent wise. Silva never struck me as a respectful fighter in the first place, the camp he used to train with were notorious for being disrespectful and I believe he has carried that with him during his career. One thing that stands out is that I saw him bow in the center of the ring at the begining of the match for the first time like that at 112, I personally heard him say(when he was booed in Montreal)that fans booed because they did not know what they were watching..... Montreal has been an MMA hot bed in Canada for over a decade, we know what were watching thanks. I have lost respect for Silva before this most recent episode, but I will never put him on my hate list over Tito for simple reasons such as: 1.Tito thinks he's better than Anderson Silva 2.Tito compares himself to GSP and calles GSP the young Tito 3.Before the fight he claims health, after the fight you would think he had one foot in the grave or that he's a walking miracle. 4.Tito would never apologize for a boring win. I will concede that Silva is more unlikeable than ever, does not seem interested in entertaining fans during a fight and should know better than what he showed on Saturday. But I do not put him over Tito's shenanigans ever, there have been too many for someone to exceed his level of dislikeability. As I said before my friend, I think he's laughing all the way to the bank(kinda like the movie Snatch) The only logic I can find with Silva is that he's betting on the outcome of his fights......He wins, we lose.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 02:15
^^^damn Get Off Me... you know your douchebag data my friend. It is I who concede - Tito is still a bigger douche, I guess I am just really... really... really pissed at Anderson. But I digress... Like we said in our previous posts after the fight - I felt personally embarrassed by him cuz I was entertaining some new fans. I am just still stewing, I guess.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 02:18
silva is always talking that "he disrespected me" cockshit. And then watching him be the most disrespectful dude in the ring time and again, and for longer than these last three infractions, just makes it so obvious to me that trying to figure or worry about the shit coming out of his hole has about as much upside as worrying about why barnett or tito say the things they do. Absolutely none. As far as what to do with him, fucking give him what he's been asking for. Tell him if he surrenders the 185 he can go up in weight. Its a win/win. (well out of the options available at least) He'll be forced to put up a fight against the bigger guys, he'll probably get his ass kicked eventually and it unclogs the 185 race. He has nothing left to prove at 185. He's stated and displayed as much over and over again. As long as UFC insists that he plays a role that he isn't interested in anymore than they'll have to carry half the blame for the results IMO. Edit: Oh yeah, two more wins is with silva up into 205+ where he belongs, it would clear the way for GSP and penn to head up also without GSP having to fight a silva weighing 50 pounds more than him at the first bell.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 02:25
Good one rjstevens. :)
Mon, 04/12/10 - 02:26
Apparently what Maia said was something to the effect of: "Silva sucks at showboating... "
Mon, 04/12/10 - 02:31
Im gonna get one of my Portuguese buddies to translate what Silva says during pressers. Ed Soares seems to leave out the good stuff. Also, fuck Anderson Silva.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 02:38
I can understand where silva is coming from... I felt it was total disrespect when my girlfriend said inch for inch I was the best lover in the world.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 02:44
This shit is Dana's fault. Anderson has fought tomato can opponents in his last 3 title defenses. While all elite fighters, they were not worthy contenders. By knocking them out, he just condones the matchmaking that the UFC is putting up there. By acting an ass, he's sending a clear message to Dana that he wants to knock out nothing but the best opponents that can be offered. If they throw him tomato cans, he's just gonna act like a cat toying with a mouse, only he lets them go at the end instead of eating them. Dana's whole premise for the Maia fight was that Silva needed to defend the belt after the long lay off. Without a clear contender available to fight after Belforts injury they scraped the only viable option from a promotional standpoint out of the barrel. This is not what Silva or the fans wanted. Sure, Silva could've knocked him out at any given point, but that would've only let Dana think its acceptable. What should've happened is to switch to a non-title fight at another weight class with a worthwhile opponent. Dana cannot keep claiming Silva is the best P4P fighter if he's not fighting the best opponents, (i.e. Fedor). He presently has no challenge at 185, and yes that includes Chael Sonnen. He should be fighting no less thatn GSP, Rashad, Rampage, Shogun, Mir, Carwin, Dos Santos, Lesnar, Velasquez, Jon Jones, or Fedor.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 02:48
Somebody better nail Chael Sonnen's mouth shut then.. Else we'll get to see a fuckin 25minute linedance
Mon, 04/12/10 - 03:12
I like Rags81 comment. It makes a lot of sense. Anderson is still a douche for doing it though.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 04:22
@ mikeraphon You are forgetting Thales Leites. A small point, but it had occurred to me that Silva feels disrespected by Brazilians who are willing to challenge him, or he simply doesn't want to finish fellow Brazilians. But then my thought falls apart when I toss Patrick Cote into the mix...
Mon, 04/12/10 - 04:30
@ rags81 I really hate this "he was bored" or "it's Dana's fault for not challenging him" argument that is starting to become popular. Lots of us are told to do things we don't like, or that we think are beneath us by our bosses. We don't dance around the office with jazz hands and jump around like a monkey to prove to our boss he is wasting our time. We just sack up, act professional, and possibly even have a man to man conversation with him about our wasted talents. So if this is his excuse, all it does is leave us to conclude that Anderson Silva is an unprofessional jackass. Which is pretty much the only conclusion you can come to regardless of what reasoning you think Silva had in doing what he did.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 04:33
Disclaimer: I am not defending Silvas behavior. I did not condone it and was pissed by the 4th round just like everyone. that said..... A. beatingu is kinda correct, maia was a sales job, not a real opponent. fight shoulda never been made. B. Maia did flop aka leittes for 3 rounds. by 4 i would be clowning too. maybe not the first, but by 4, yep. he did not come to 'fight' he came to look for the fight to land in his advantage, not get it there. c. WHAT MOST OF YOU MISS, IN BRAZIL (LATIN ANYWHERE WORLD) THERE IS A HUGE CLASS GAP, AND RACISM THAT far EXCEEDS ANYTHING YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE IN AMERICA. As a black brazillian and Maia as a brown brazillian, there is automatic anomosity. (ignore machida, he is half asian). and i do not know the social standing of either fighters families, but if the class plus racial divide pre-existed, then anything said would be taken as an insult to the 10th degree from the start. also remember that some of what is said is very lost in cultural translation 9think playboy comment). D. anyone else notice how this has overshadowed the worst decision ever. No way edgar won that fight and I can not find a single blogger or expert who live blogged and scored an Edgar win. not a one. worst case was 3-2 penn win most gave it 4-1 penn win. the 50-45 score was insulting to my MMA knowledge.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 05:33
"...or he simply doesn't want to finish fellow Brazilians. But then my thought falls apart when I toss Patrick Cote into the mix..." I also noticed that he doesn't seem to fight muricans the same way he fights non muricans. He makes sure to kick the shit out of murican fighters. That and just some of the attitude he puts out makes me suspect that he just doesn't like muricans and/or whites. And that may also add to his disrespect towards the UFC as a murican company on the whole. Maybe he's got some kind of racist issues like ccman is talking about.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 08:28
Wilson, Dana White is not Anderson Silva's boss, he is a promoter. Anderson Silva is an independent contractor that is responsible for his own affairs. The UFC does not provide a salary, healthcare, or retirement benefits to its fighters. This fight was put on by Dana because he needed a headliner for the fight since they were in a new market, title fights are more promotable, and Silva is frequently used in overseas fights since he does not speak english well making him less of a draw in the US. All of this conflicts with Silvas interests. He wants to fight the the toughest oppontents available and has publicly stated his contempt for fighting less skilled opponents, and shown his contempt in the cage. He wants to fight in the US since that is where the money is at, and as a headliner he recieves a portion of ticket and PPV sales. Once it was clear that no viable middleweight contender was available due to injury or a recent defeat, Dana should have postponed the fight or booked a non-title fight in a different weight class against a quality opponent. NOBODY wanted to see this Maia fight for any other reason than the quick highlight reel knockout it should have provided. Unfortunately, what we saw instead was Silva making a very clear and loud statement to Dana that he will jackass around with jazz hands and monkey business unless he is fighting the best. By robbing Dana and the fans of the knockout we all know he could have delivered, Dana cannot continue to ignore Silva's demands as the P4P best fighter and booking these lesser opponents unless he's going for the value proposition of providing us with great fights mixed with a vaudeville show such as the UFC 112 main event. As for Silvas legacy, every damned one of us will forgive him in 3 months when he knocks out (insert name of unlucky bastard here) in devastating fashion.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 09:09
@rags81 enough of this "he only wants to fight the best fighters available..." crap. He is the champ of the 185 division. At some point he has to defend his title. Name a fighter in the 185 division who merits a championship bout. Otherwise, he's shown a desire at 205. Name a fighter at 205 that merits a fight with Silva. The top tier 205 fighters don't want to fight him because a loss to Silva means distancing themselves from their own title shot. You have nothing to gain from fighting Silva at 205 if you're a top tier fighter. So who does that leave? Machida obviously. But to suggest Silva fight Machida is off the table as well. He's the best fighter on the planet. There's no one at any weight class who meets the criteria (top tier talent with something to gain from fighting him). Thus the UFC match makers have to find the guy who's earned a title fight and hasn't recently fought so he can be focused enough to compete. So let's put it on you Rags81...you're the UFC match maker. You are ready to give in to Silva's demands of fighting the best possible talent. Name his next three fights at any weight class. Remember, he is the 185 champ so at some point he owes it to his own weight class to defend the title. He can't just win the title and ride off into the superfight sunset...
Mon, 04/12/10 - 09:29
rockbacklash, save the "Americans can't understand Silva's awesomeness" crap... When it comes to our sports, we are among the greatest, most well researched, well versed fans on the planet. We are not the uneducated neanderthals that you'd like to make us out to be. As for your own understanding of the fight game, what do you expect the greatest BJJ fighter in UFC to say when asked his game plan? "I'm going to beat him with gogoplatas and D'arce chokes..." I mean c'mon already. GSP almost beat Hardy with a Kimura...were you scoffing at his "beginner moves". Keeping Maia at a distance and stuffing takedown attempts definitely stopped Maia's gameplan of taking it to the ground and submitting Silva. Showboating and beating his chest certainly did NOT keep it out of the judges hands. A decision victory is precisely IN the judges hands dumbass. Somehow in the same breath, you say that Silva disgraced Maia by completely obliterating his game plan, but that he had no desire to finish him. I would contend that this once again does not support the claim that Silva is the best P4P fighter on the planet, but rather the biggest P4P bully on the planet, and no reasonable person cheers for the bully. So, now that you've levied the blame for this shameful display on Dana White's match making ability, I challenge you with the same task I gave Rags81...you are the UFC match maker...tell me who Silva should have fought in Belfort's place, and give me Silva's next 3 fights.
Mon, 04/12/10 - 11:14
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