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Fedor Emelianenko and Vadim Finkelchtein: Total F*cking Retards

Fedor Emelianenko Vadim Finkelchtein MMA M-1
("Don’t worry, Fedor, there will be other offers. Say, would you like to open for a puppet show in Stockton this weekend?" Photo courtesy of 5oz.)

You gotta be kidding me with this shit. According to Carmichael Dave (via Bloody Elbow), here’s what the UFC was offering Fedor to sign with them:

- The UFC offered Fedor a 6 fight, 30 million dollar contract. That’s 5 mil a fight
- The UFC offered Fedor an immediate title shot
- Lesnar/Fedor would be the biggest PPV in MMA history (we assume), and the UFC offered M-1 Global a cut of the PPV on top of Fedor’s purse.
- Fedor was free to wear as many M-1 logoed items as he wished.
- The UFC also relented on allowing Fedor to compete in combat sambo.
Apparently, for good or bad, M-1 refuses to sign a deal unless the UFC agrees to co-promote.



In other words, the UFC would give him an unprecedented amount of money — much more than he’s worth, actually, in terms of his proven pay-per-view drawing power in the U.S. — and were actually going to bite the bullet on the combat sambo thing, which was a sticking point in their previous negotiations. On top of the millions they’d pay Fedor, M-1 Global would directly receive an additional windfall in the form of points on the PPV, and Fedor could come out wearing an M-1 jumpsuit, while Aleks and Kirill drape an M-1 banner over the cage. And the crazy Russians still wouldn’t accept, because they wanted their logo prominently featured in the broadcast, and they wanted to hear Mike Goldberg say their name.

That’s called "hardball," people. More accurately, it’s called "hardballing your way out of the best offer you will ever receive in your life." We can only hope that when Fedor flies back to Russia, his wife will clock the shit out of him with a rolling pin for leaving so much money on the table, and demand that he sign with the UFC. For God’s sake, he could buy Neverland with that kind of money. Think about it man: Your own amusement park, and only you decide who gets to ride the roller-coaster. Isn’t that what we’ve all dreamed about?

Comments

  1. Eddi Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:12


    he doesnt know that 30 million dollars is more than 30 million rubels
  2. Polish Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:14


    So pretty much the largest offer in UFC/MMA history and it was turned down...
  3. jimbonics Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:14


    OMFG. Well, fuck 'em. That's too bad. That offer was over the fucking top.
  4. punchguyinface Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:16


    Fedor and Finkelchtein's gameplan: Hardball, Hardball, Hardball. Too bad they forgot to include 'Take the Deal' at some point.
  5. El Famous Burrito Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:16


    Usually I try to post a witty comment or something humorous. In this case, however: Fuck you, Vadim.
  6. Armbreaker Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:18


    I would love to see Fedor fight in the UFC. I hope he changes his mind and accepts the offer.
  7. nuclearblast Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:19


    UFC fighters are underpaid, that's a fact. But what the hell with those crazy russians ? You can buy an hole vodka factory with this kind of money. DW must shit his pants right now....it's just a matter of time before some big names leaves to get more money somewhere else. If I were in the GSP shorts I'll be gone already...DW would suck his dick and double his salary to get him back.
  8. Androiddrew Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:20


    @ El Famous Burrito: Usually I try to do the same, but... Wow! I'm at a loss.
  9. Cage Rage Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:20


    How do you say stupid fag ass bitch motherfucker ass cock in russian? Idiots so fucking close M1 suck a fat herpe infested hooker.
  10. J-Dog Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:26


    I find it hard to believe Dana and the Fertitas would be that generous after the "fuck 'em" attitude they've had for so long. But if it's true, then the title of the post is the most true and obvious statement I've seen in a long time - total fucking retards. This just begs the question - is it possible that Fedor is scared of the UFC's fighters? Yeah we all think he'll own everyone except maybe possibly Cock Chestnar, but maybe he thinks it's best to just be the big "what if" question and remain undefeated. Maybe he thinks Cock Chestnar will KTFO him and he doesn't want to look like he's had easy competiton outside the UFC... ?? With such a ridiculous offer being turned down, one has to wonder what's really up. If it was me I'd tell M-1 and all my people to go fuck themselves over that kind of money, and I'd crawl over and be Dana's lap dog. That's a very lucrative offer. Just imagine how far $30 million US would go in a shithole like Russia. Total retards.
  11. Capt. Shamrock Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:26


    I love Fedor, but I'm afraid that he'll spend so much time fucking around, that even if he does eventually make that dream move to the UFC, he'll no longer be relevant
  12. TheHuytonHandGrenade Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:30


    This doesnt sound very realistic at all 30 big fellas to have 6 fights. I dont think there is even 6 people anybody really wants to see Fedor fight is there? The only way id pay Fedor that type of money is if he fights and kills Spencer Pratt n his bitch
  13. U R All GSP Nut-huggers Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:34


    anyone who believes this story is a fool. no way anybody would put that much money out for fedor. how about verifying your shit first before posting cagepotato? then again... your bullshit stories do generate some great fucktard comments...
  14. ON EDGE 24 7 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:36


    This is getting retarded. Any one with a head on their shoulders would take this deal. FEDOR, You could manage yourself better than your dumb ass promotor. TAKE THE DEAL. Any current UFC fighter would DIE for this contract and thats gonna piss alot of fighter for not taking it. I just lost that much respect for SUPPOSEDLY the best heavyweight ever............ PROVE IT FEDOR.....................
  15. ON EDGE 24 7 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:36


    This is getting retarded. Any one with a head on their shoulders would take this deal. FEDOR, You could manage yourself better than your dumb ass promotor. TAKE THE DEAL. Any current UFC fighter would DIE for this contract and thats gonna piss alot of fighters for not taking it. I just lost that much respect for SUPPOSEDLY the best heavyweight ever............ PROVE IT FEDOR.....................
  16. U R All GSP Nut-huggers Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:38


    speaking of fucktard comments... thanks on edge
  17. JPfighter Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:44


    The greed and stupidity of Fedor and Vadim is not really a surprise. What IS a surprise is the supposed offer of $5 million per fight (if that is true). Fedor is not worth that kind of money. I officially do not want to see Fedor fight in the UFC, ever.
  18. Soda Popinski Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:47


    Im with U R All GSP Nut..... Im not buying this story. Dont believe everything that you read.
  19. sPeLLcHeCkEr Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:52


    You mean, "thanks 'to' edge". "no way anybody would put that much money out for fedor." How about you verify your shit. Or better yet, why don't we all wait on official word from CNN before any of us open our mouths, LOL.
  20. Cage Rage Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:52


    the fucking point is that this Russian fuck has no one else to fight everyone is in the UFC. Fuck the money and deals if he dosen't sign with the UFC he will be teaching Sambo to orphan russian kids just so he can hit someone
  21. JoseMonkey Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:53


    Congrats, Fedor: You'll soon be the best irrelevant fighter in the world.
  22. Killer Bee Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:55


    ... Disappointing.
  23. Fight Fan Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:58


    I call bullshit on this alleged offer. I doubt the UFC would put up a six-fight deal. Six fights???? Come on, if he loses a first one to Lesnar, he stock is goes way down. In time, the details of these recent negotiations will come out, and while I bet that the offers will have been pretty rich, they won't be anywhere near this shit. By the way, Fedor is in no hurry to step in a cage where he will be rushed and taken down by wrestlers. He has to balance the interests of being the mystical undefeated fighter which will continue to be lucrative in freakshow fights abroad, with the possibility of a loss in the next fight which will see his stock decline quickly.
  24. Swedish Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:59


    Fedor is a scared piece of shit. Can't you see that these are all excuses people? Him not being in the UFC only proves one thing. He's NOT the best
  25. GarethUFC Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:03


    I Hope Vadim gets cancer... Ive said all i need to say
  26. C-Bus Allstar Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:04


    Capt. Shamrock, he's already Irrelevant. The minute they turned down this offer was the minute Fedor became completely irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, Vadim F. is a moron, and Fedor is blind. I've said it before: Fedor will never fight (a meaningful fight) again. His legacy is over, and covered in the shadow of Vadim Finkelstein.
  27. El Famous Burrito Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:14


    Poor Mama Emelianenko. One son has Hepatitis B, the other has a cancerous tumor he calls "Vadim".
  28. Cocky Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:16


    Fedor is scared of Brock!
  29. shitbag Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:19


    Fedor is dead to me.
  30. MIRJITSU Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:22


    Are Vadim and Fedor lovers??? Because he sure is fucking him like they are!!
  31. Just A Wrestler Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:24


    russians dont get cancer, they invented it
  32. MIRJITSU Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:25


    Vadim himself even said that the UFC gave them a "good offer"! All you fucktards claiming conspiracy theories about the 30 mil 6 fight etc. offer are morons. You think those M1 greedy bastards would call something a good offer if it wasn't ALMOST as ridiculous as they want!!
  33. MyFightWiffaCheeto Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:26


    No way in hell Dana succumbs to this fucking Russian fuck. Fedor had his chance. If it's true that Fedor is not in the room during negotiations and M1 wants the co-promotion so they decide how much money Fedor receives then Fedor really is a 10 year old trapped in a 32 year old body. Blindly agreeing with and listening to management that is obviously fucking him in his stoic, frozen tundra-like asshole. If this report is true and UFC isn't fucking with us somehow or they manage to get him to agree to terms that [B]DON'T[/B] involve co-promotion and more money, then this was the moment that Fedor Emelienenko fell from the #1 fighter in the world title and begins his free fall from relevance. UFC doesn't need him. He needs the UFC. He can always go back to Japan and fight for Dream where they have trouble paying their mid-level fighters. Or go to Sengoku and fight the guy who tore down his last payday for significantly less money. After that, who does he have left to fight? HMC vs. Fedor 2, He can fight Hunt again, maybe Fujita... all thrilling matchups THAT HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED. Fuck you M1 Global. No actually, Shame on you M1 Global.
  34. MyFightWiffaCheeto Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:30


    "nuclearblast Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 09:19 UFC fighters are underpaid, that's a fact. But what the hell with those crazy russians ? You can buy an hole vodka factory with this kind of money. DW must shit his pants right now....it's just a matter of time before some big names leaves to get more money somewhere else. If I were in the GSP shorts I'll be gone already...DW would suck his dick and double his salary to get him back." 1. Your spelling is atrocious. 2. You're a fucking idiot. Big names are going to leave the UFC? AND FIGHT WHERE FOR MORE MONEY?! Tell me that jackass. What promotion will pay more than the UFC for top talent like GSP? Some people on this site seriously have no fucking sense.
  35. GarethUFC Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:31


    Is it just me or does anyone else the hope to God the owners of M1 Global go BROKE!!!! I hope the owners get charged with rape and they never done it.... I am so mad at Vedor... FUCK! his manager is a fucking asshole, I wish kimbo knocks Vedor out with a jab!
  36. LoneWolf Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:35


    my blood is boiling....This is BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of morons are these people, take the deal you idiots....M1 IS GARBAGE!
  37. Fight Fan Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:38


    Mirjitsu Oh, well if he said that they were presented a good offer, then it must be true. You are a shrewd fellow. You might be more stupid than Vadim. Stick to mirjitsu'ing and don't rack your little brain on this.
  38. Ryan Meleedy Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:39


    but there was no contract clause that stated fedor couldnt start in those awsome japanese commercials anymore. insiders say that was a sticking point.
  39. Fedor vs. Bas Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:42


    Do you ever get the impression that Fedor, Vadim, & M-1 are connected to either the russian mob or some russian oil baron somehow and they just dont need the UFC's money and dont care what they turn down? How else could you give the "stockon hey-buddy" to $30 with M-1 getting PPV money? It just doesn't make sense.
  40. Fight Fan Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:43


    Just tried the M1 site for the first time...my internet froze up and went to the dreaded blue screen. Piece of shit site nearly took out my computer. What a joke.
  41. KingTcb Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:52


    Fedor will never sign with the ufc because he knows he will take a beating. I was always one to support fedor and defend him against the "no real competition" talk but now I feel like a turd. Its obvious he would rather fight cans and make ok money rather then take a shit load of money and have a real lose on his record. This just proves he is no pound for pound champion he is just a bitch who had 3 or 4 good wins. Wow. Here's a question. If serra beat 3 cans then went on to knock out gsp like he did then fought 3 other cans and retired and was 7 and 0 with a win over gsp would he be best p4p in the world? Especially not knowing how gsp handled him the second fight
  42. Cage Rage Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:52


    Wow is it me or all we all REALLY pissed off. STOP FUCKING WITH OUR MINDS FEDOR and get Vadim cock from your mouth
  43. BuckWild Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:56


    Fedor will end up going to Strikeforce for a fraction of the money and Strikeforce will cave on the promotion part. He will then fight: Overheem Rogers Munson Crocop (in a year or so when he is KTFO in the UFC)
  44. UFC fan Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:57


    Why do we keep talking about this piece of shit Fedor? enough already, hes dead to the UFC, hes nothing, and never will be. seriously enough! He don't want huge money, then fuck him. I'm saying it again, if we can have a ban on tito news, lets have one on goddamn Fedor.
  45. djavulkai Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:57


    Fedor is a pussy. He doesn't want to fight Brock right now because Brock would destroy him. Passing up this offer is the way he can do it, but he has to continue to tease because he is still in the spotlight. The minute he takes this contract, he will be in the crosshairs and will have to fight Brock. When he fights Brock and loses, then he will be nobody. This is what M-1 is banking on right now, is NOT TESTING their cash cow. Who wants to fuck up the gravy train? Vadim knows full well that Fedor will get beaten, and once that happens, he will be worth NOTHING because everyone knows he's not the #1 guy in the world. That's why they passed on the deal. Fedor is NOT the best, they BOTH know it, but they don't want US to know it so they can keep on getting PAID.
  46. Criminally Negligent Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:58


    If the UFC really offered him all that and he turned it down then he's dead to me. He's never going to get anything better than that. I hope he sends us a postcard from obscurity.
  47. Bare Grappler Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:04


    The UFC will be just fine without you, Fedor. They do not hinge on your presence. If I was Dana White I would send them an email simply saying, "We've given you our best offer. We have the best competition here in the world. We will continue to do extremely well without Fedor as most people know Brock Lesnar's name before they know Fedor Emelianko. Good luck in your future fights and M1 promotions."
  48. Remsaa Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:11


    welp, i think that it was either take the deal and lose to Brock, or not take the deal, blame the UFC and try and continue the "Nobody beats me" slogan. I love Fedor, not a fan of Vadim after seeing this tho, and wtf is his last name really Finkelchtein?!?
  49. Surfin Dave Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:16


    CP, you have offended us retards! We are in no way that stupid. We demand an instant apology. Or an ice cream cone.
  50. glenwo2 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:17


    nuclearblast Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 06:19 UFC fighters are underpaid, that's a fact. But what the hell with those crazy russians ? You can buy an hole vodka factory with this kind of money. DW must shit his pants right now....it's just a matter of time before some big names leaves to get more money somewhere else. If I were in the GSP shorts I'll be gone already...DW would suck his dick and double his salary to get him back. >>> And just where is GSP going to go? Strikeforce? You really think Strikeforce would give him more money than what UFC did? If you think that, then you are just as retarded as Fedor/Vadim. GSP ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE.
  51. dude guy Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:18


    fedor may know how to fight, but cant do business for shit!
  52. xlifetimex Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:19


    ha you guys dont look at the big picture. tyson was making $20mil a fucking fight. GSP is not even near $1million. Pay per view generates hundreds of millions of dollars - UFC under pays LARGE. Fedor is winning this fight - UFC has a stranglehold on all the fighters. If they want him then they are going to have to pay for him. The way i see it - title holders/main event fighters shold be getting a percentage of the PPV hits or have a HUGE wage increase. Fuck UFC - Zuffa INC are ripping off the fighters.
  53. MIRJITSU Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:22


    Fuck you E-thug. Talking shit on the internet makes you fucking brilliant.
  54. BigBlue Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:28


    He is a FOOL! To be perfectly honest I am at the point were I really don't care if he comes over to the UFC. I don't think that he can beat Brock. Fedor hasn't beat anyone of any significance in quite awhile. Out of his last 5 bouts 2 of the people have had losing records. Doesn't he have a fight against Jose coming up soon?
  55. Shacmasta Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:29


    UFC should now use that money to scoop up every name fighter over 205, let him spend the rest of his days doing the sambo with 155pd aoki's of the world.
  56. Mike Milbury Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:35


    So basically they want to leech off UFC's marketing ability and vast casual fanbase because I'm sure only hardcores would actually purchase an M-1 PPV (IE. Shit PPV buyrates). So let UFC do most of the hard work selling a show and M-1 can steal some of the revenue. Plus, residuals of any DVDs and crap. Wouldn't surprise me if there were clauses like if Fedor leaves or if he gets cut, they must pay the entire $30 million or something stupid.
  57. AceCondor Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:36


    Seriously! WTF! M1 has all of their eggs in one Fedor basket. The best thing they could of done for Fedor, Fedor's family and friends, and the M1 Global Promotion is to work something out with the UFC. They are really screwing the pooch on this one. I, for one, am glad that Dana and Co. haven't succumbed to their greedy bullshit. Fedor "The Obscure and Meaningless Emperor" Emelianenko
  58. jamesbrktt Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:39


    If Fedor and friends dont take this offer, which,like GSP nut,I'm not really buying,you can bet your ass DW is going to have a press conference Friday and blast Fedor and Shitkilstien.Why the fuck should Dana have to bend over backwards to offer Gaydor a shot to fight in the biggest organization in MMA.Something in this equation is definitely being left out.
  59. dude Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:43


    Maybe the contract offer didn't include an ice cream cone and a lousy sweater.
  60. Josh-O Slicenett Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:44


    Anyone ever read Animal Farm by George Orwell? Fedor really reminds me of the big, strong horse that allows himself to get worked to death due to unconditional faith in his leader.
  61. Mike Milbury Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:46


    @dude: They would have wanted to co-promote purchasing said ice cream cone and sweater. 100% of the revenues going to M1, of course.
  62. u02jgc9 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:47


    Lol, who is this guy? He's getting paid to do what he loves- just whoop people's asses all day long, and somebody offered him .....wait for it.........$30 million. Fedor, Silva, and any other person who wants to forget where they came from and what the UFC has done for their sport: take some time and go back home for awhile and realize how lucky you are.
  63. ON EDGE 24 7 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:51


    Your welcome Fucknut
  64. I Know Nothing Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:52


    Whatever.
  65. nuclearblast Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:55


    1. I'ld love to see how good you are with you're 2nd language. 2. You must be like 12 years old, that's why you don't understand how business like the UFC works. Let's say A.Silva, GSP, BJ, Lyoto and Rampage decides to invest their money in a new promotion. Who would care about the UFC anymore ? This happened many times before in boxing...Soon enough there will be like 3-4 BIG mma organizations. Unless DW gives a good share of the profits to his fighters.
  66. nuclearblast Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:57



  67. nuclearblast Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:57


    MyFightWiffaCheeto Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 07:30 1. Your spelling is atrocious. 2. You're a fucking idiot. Big names are going to leave the UFC? AND FIGHT WHERE FOR MORE MONEY?! Tell me that jackass. What promotion will pay more than the UFC for top talent like GSP? ========================================== 1. I'ld love to see how good you are with you're 2nd language. 2. You must be like 12 years old, that's why you don't understand how business like the UFC works. Let's say A.Silva, GSP, BJ, Lyoto and Rampage decides to invest their money in a new promotion. Who would care about the UFC anymore ? This happened many times before in boxing...Soon enough there will be like 3-4 BIG mma organizations. Unless DW gives a good share of the profits to his fighters.
  68. glenwo2 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:01


    dude guy Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 08:18 fedor may know how to fight, but cant do business for shit! >>> Fedor knows how to run like a pussy, though.
  69. TrouserSnout Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:02


    ????? ??????? ???? ???? ??????? ???? ????? That's how you say it in Russian....LMAO
  70. Old_Bald_and_Irish Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:05


    This smells like BS. Seriously...who walks away from $30 million? If they could walk away from that cash AND the PPV buy points (which is major) what did they even come to the table for? Honestly, the co-promotion was the deal breaker? Would the exposure been worth 30 million? Why would the UFC ever agree to that and allow M-1 to threaten their business? It just sounds too bizarre.
  71. glenwo2 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:07


    xlifetimex Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 08:19 ha you guys dont look at the big picture. tyson was making $20mil a fucking fight. GSP is not even near $1million. Pay per view generates hundreds of millions of dollars - UFC under pays LARGE. " >>> That still doesn't discard the fact that GSP would be paid even LESS elsewhere than here. Plus, comparing GSP to perhaps one of the most dominating boxers in history is kind of REACHING, don't you think? I look at GSP more like a Holyfield-type... "Fedor is winning this fight - UFC has a stranglehold on all the fighters. If they want him then they are going to have to pay for him." >>> You mean THIRTY FUCKING MILLION DOLLARS FOR JUST SIX FIGHTS ISN'T ENOUGH???? do you even re-read what you've posted? god.... "The way i see it - title holders/main event fighters should be getting a percentage of the PPV hits or have a HUGE wage increase. " >>> Fair enough but I'm not going to sit here and pretend to know just what's going on behind the scenes. But I've got to ask you something : Has GSP HIMSELF stated that he is unhappy with his position in the UFC? has he done that at ANY POINT? If he hasn't, then everything you stated is nothing but a whole bag of ASSUMPTION. "Fuck UFC - Zuffa INC are ripping off the fighters." >>> And DW, Myself, Zuffa, and all UFC Fans say to you : GO FUCK A DONKEY!
  72. Mike Milbury Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:07


    @nuclearblast: As we've seen before not only in MMA but other sports, some companies have no problem putting themselves into debt today for the slight hope that they'll make it big tomorrow. Affliction tried it and would have probably failed in the long run if it weren't for Barnett (Just looking at the fighter payroll per event).
  73. Nut Puncher 9000 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:10


    Fedor is just not that interested in fighting the best. Period, and there is no deny'n it now.
  74. BeastUnleashed Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:12


    Good, UFC can spend the money on a proven draw in the UFC and the biggest star in the UFC right now Brock Lesnar, also on Canada's biggest draw who can sell a ppv all over the states and the world GSP.
  75. Nut Puncher 9000 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:13


    @ The Bens FEDOR really needs to be striped of Number 1 after refusing this deal. No number 1 fighter in the world passes on this. Fedor is using the UFC wanting him so bad to hype himself. If this offer is actually legit and he refuses, I lose all respect for him; poor management of not.
  76. glenwo2 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:15


    nuclearblast Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 08:55 1. I'ld love to see how good you are with you're 2nd language." >>> Are you talking to me? If you are, then I'd love to see how good you are sipping food through a straw after I implant a fist in your face, punk. Don't mock me, bitch. "2. You must be like 12 years old, that's why you don't understand how business like the UFC works. Let's say A.Silva, GSP, BJ, Lyoto and Rampage decides to invest their money in a new promotion. Who would care about the UFC anymore ? " >>> And you must be 40 years old, live in your mom's basement, and still have no girlfriend...that's why you'll never get laid. Oh and the day that Silva, GSP, BJ, Lyoto, and Rampage invest their money instead of saving it for their families is the day that you actually GET SOME...That, however, is not looking good. "This happened many times before in boxing...Soon enough there will be like 3-4 BIG mma organizations. Unless DW gives a good share of the profits to his fighters" >>> ROFLMAO!!!! What kind of fantasy-world are YOU living in? BOXING is a corrupt piece of shit industry and comparing what happens in Boxing to what happens in a TOTALLY-DIFFERENT sport is just plain idiotic in your case....but then again, you live in a village so.....
  77. glenwo2 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:17


    okay, I posted before I saw that nuclear was referring to someone else...but I'm not apologizing for any of it 'cause it's absolutely RIDICULOUS to think that GSP or anyone would leave here to go somewhere else where getting paid is more an option than a requirement.
  78. Sexyamas Orange Coat Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:19


    Ah Mr Bellic i need you to fix a problem for me............................Vadim Finkelchtein is the problem......................
  79. glenwo2 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:24


    off-topic question : Who deserves a contract? Sexyama or his Orange Coat? ;p
  80. Dmonicideals Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:28


    I saw it said best yesterday, and I am going to reiterate it here: UFC without Fedor: Makes hundred of millions of dollars a year. Fedor without UFC: Goes to Japan, sells a few thousand PPVs, retires as "Who's Fedor" to the everday fan.
  81. Aenarion Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:29


    Is M-1 Global even worth 30 million dollars plus a cut of the PPVs? For some reason I don't think so. In fact outside of ex-Affliction I can't even name an M-1 Promotion. Bens have it right: Total fucking retards.
  82. glenwo2 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:30


    "Do you Know Who I Am?" the Answer : A COWARD, Fedor. A STINKING COWARD.
  83. Daddy_jeffy Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:32


    @ Androiddrew That's cause you aren't that funny...
  84. Sheps Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:36


    Good on him! He knows he has the power to get more so why should he sit back and take an offer he feels is below him?! Man Fedor is the only mixed martial artist in the world to achieve his full potential money and fame wise. If anything Fedor is bigger than the UFC as a whole. The man is a god damn legend.
  85. Mike Milbury Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:42


    @Sheps: I'd disagree with the fame part. He's only well-known and regarded to the internet MMA world. I'd say more people in general know of Brock Lesnar than Fedor.
  86. glenwo2 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:42


    Hold the phone everybody!! Over at bloodyelbow, M-1 told it side of the story(reported by Jonathan Snowden) : "The numbers being floated there are a little misleading. The UFC’s offer of $30 million over six fights isn’t a guarantee," Snowden learned from a source. "The number is based on Zuffa’s projections of what Fedor’s take of the PPV money would be, and the numbers they are projecting are based on selling a ton of PPV’s. The actual guarantee for Fedor is much more modest. It’s true that if business stays at record levels Fedor could walk away with $30 million. But that is no guarantee." very interesting.
  87. Fight Fan Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:43


    Right now, this talk of Fedor passing on this alleged offer makes him look like he's ducking legitimate competition on MMA sites and amongst MMA fans. If these sentiments ever made it outside of this little domain to a braoder audience, I can't help but think being labelled a pussy would get under his skin. Is he such a robot that taunts of coward and pussy do not bother him? He is mystical last emperor indeed.
  88. glenwo2 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:43


    Mike, I'd even go far as to say that more people in general know of KIMBO SLICE than Fedor.
  89. imakeutap Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:44


    who's vedor? darth vedor?
  90. Fight Fan Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:46


    You mean there's more to it than the five or six bullet points listed in this post?
  91. Goog Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:47


    @xlifetimex "The way i see it - title holders/main event fighters shold be getting a percentage of the PPV hits or have a HUGE wage increase." Lesnar already got a piece of the PPV which is how he made over $3M at UFC 100. That perk is going to be reserved for the biggest of the big draws. If GSP continues as he is, it wouldn't surprise me that his next contract contains some of that. Personally, I think that's incentive to work harder and position yourself for that opportunity. If you start handing out big money automatically because of the more union-like system, you'll get people just showing up and thinking "Eh... win or lose, I'm getting paid." Make them work for it. And I don't think $50-60K bonuses for mid-carders screams "underpaid". Make them work for it. Find out who's serious. Thiago Alves - talented kid, but showing up 4 pounds overweight doesn't need to be rewarded. And if you can fight 2-3 times a year, you should be able to make it. If you can't, then do like Brett Rogers and keep your job until you can. My point is that it's not their God-given right to be super-paid just because they're in the UFC. Some of the kickers in the NFL started out at $60K. I don't begrudge GSP a dime. That guy works. Give him anything he wants. Everyone else? Earn it.
  92. Cage Rage Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:48


    I can't even read anymore of this shit I hope they get hit by a double decker bus and dragged a couple of miles in the frozen tundra.
  93. Biffmiester Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:53


    What a piece of work this Finkeldouche is...If I was DW, I'd have Brock Lesnar tag along just to call out Fedor for being the little pussy-ass bitch (or bitch-ass pussy) that he is in that press conference tomorrow. Then afterwards, for kicks, both of them have an ice cream cone for photo-ops.
  94. mmaflunkie Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:58


    Fedor is now (to steal a term from the NFL) Mr. Irrelevant. He's never going to fight top talent, and in my humble opinion the UFC Heavyweight Champion now trumps the WAMMA heavyweight title holder. Time to move forward....
  95. Androiddrew Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 10:06


    @ Daddy_jeffy I'm suprised you can find time to comment in between giving hobos blowjobs
  96. 831 Son Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 10:18


    I wouldn't even pay that much for Fedor. What a joke. Its sad how they will pay Fedor 30 million yet they pay alot of fighters 8 FUCKING THOUSAND to fight. So dumb. Fuck these russian faggots.
  97. crittino Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 10:25


    i want vadim vs lesnar after hearing this shit.
  98. nuclearblast Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 10:45


    >>> ROFLMAO!!!! What kind of fantasy-world are YOU living in? BOXING is a corrupt piece of shit industry and comparing what happens in Boxing to what happens in a TOTALLY-DIFFERENT sport is just plain idiotic in your case....but then again, you live in a village so..... Oh yes... MMA is totally-different lol. This isnt a fighting based sport earning money with PPV ?? oh wait, it is. ===================================== Let's make it simple for simple minds. First of all...as any other jobs being a fighter or a fight promoter is about one thing. MONEY. Let's says GSP and A.Silva wants to fight together and make as much money as possible. What's the options ?? Getting a couple of millions from DW or self-promoting a PPV event that will draw like 25 millions or so ?? That's business is all about.
  99. Cage Rage Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 10:47


    Thanks
  100. NECROPHYTE Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 11:29


    Never thought i'd say this but, fuck you Fedor and Russia! Mostly all those fucked up internet shock videos are scum bag Russians. Russia=fail.
  101. Daddy_jeffy Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 11:30


    @Androidrew I was jess tryin' to get your mom off the street and she came on to me.
  102. Ninja Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 11:40


    This is a strategic news leak by the UFC. It has created a wave of anti Fedor sentiment which is exactly what they need. This offer was never made. The sole purpose of it is to make it look like Fedor is the one that is not making the deal happen. The UFC can now say " We have given him more than enough and he still won't come and fight" Then all the bandwagoners will join in and chant "USA USA Fedor is a pussy" It undermines him and makes him look like he is scared of fighting Brock Lesnar. That way the UFC can claim to have the best heavyweight fighter in the world without having Fedor step into the ring.
  103. Androiddrew Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 12:40


    @ Daddy_jeffy I would never stoop so low as to deride your family. No class whatsoever.
  104. JPfighter Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 12:58


    Can we really blame Fedor for this? I mean, what would you rather do? Sit around in geeky sweaters eating ice cream cones with a silly smirk on your face while clinging to a fabricated mystique...or, sign with the UFC and get completely destroyed by Brock Lesnar? Fedor fears the DeathClutch! Fedor and Vadim are both fucking pussies and his "legacy" will now die a slow death. Maybe Fedor can sign with a Japanese promotion and fight Barnett? That will give them about 15,000 PPV buys, and M-1 can slice that in half. Of course, half of zero is...well, you know...fucking zero. If Fedor is the best Heavyweight in the world, then that must mean that Frank Shamrock is the best Middleweight in the world. The joke of that comment is that Frank actually has faced better competition in recent years (Cung Le, for one) than Fedor has. Stay in motherfucking Russia, you douchebags.
  105. JPfighter Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 12:59


    And by the way, props to CP for calling it like it is, with these fucking idiots, Fedor and Vadim. Well done.
  106. The Truth Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 01:21


    If I were Dana, Id do a 1 fight deal and let him fight Brock Lesnar. Even let M-1 split the profit. Id pay the camera guys and the commentators to completely ignore the M-1 logo, and then If BL beat the piss outta him, he would be useless to the world and out of a contract. Id skew numbers and pinch every penny out of them that I possible could in the deal.
  107. just some dong Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 01:41


    I don't think Fedor is afraid of the UFC's HW fighters - I think it's M-1 who's afraid. That's why they're trying to pull all this long-term cross-promotional stuff. It's not just with the UFC; this is their demand with Strikeforce as well. It's their sticking point because they KNOW that that nobody gives a sh!t about M-1 except for the fact that they apparently own Fedor, body and soul. So if their greatest (and basically only) asset goes to the UFC or Strikeforce, and is subsequently destroyed by Lesnar or whomever in his first fight, the whole Fedor mystique is shattered - and there goes M-1's meal ticket. It's a gamble that they're currently not willing to make, because when it comes down to it, anyone can be beaten at any time. We've seen that some guys have had serious problems adjusting to the cage, and if that were to happen to Fedor, and he were to go down in flames like Cro-Cop did (whose entire mystique was demolished upon stepping into the cage), then where does that leave M-1 in 2 years?
  108. Daddy_jeffy Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 01:56


    @ Androiddrew You lost me. What does deride mean?
  109. glenwo2 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 02:12


    Biffmiester Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 09:53 What a piece of work this Finkeldouche is...If I was DW, I'd have Brock Lesnar tag along just to call out Fedor for being the little pu$$y-a$$ bitch (or bitch-ass pussy) that he is in that press conference tomorrow. Then afterwards, for kicks, both of them have an ice cream cone for photo-ops >>> biff, that's a GREAT IDEA! :) Having Brock along to see all this bullshit going down will have to grate on his nerves and he might go all "DON FRYE" on Fedor, his manager, and Russia altogether.... He'd probably call Fedor a coward and a sissy for eating ice cream cones and wearing dorky-sweaters that look like they were from the 1950s.
  110. glenwo2 Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 02:12


    Biffmiester Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 09:53 What a piece of work this Finkeldouche is...If I was DW, I'd have Brock Lesnar tag along just to call out Fedor for being the little pu$$y-a$$ b*tch (or b*tch-ass pu$$y) that he is in that press conference tomorrow. Then afterwards, for kicks, both of them have an ice cream cone for photo-ops >>> biff, that's a GREAT IDEA! :) Having Brock along to see all this bullshit going down will have to grate on his nerves and he might go all "DON FRYE" on Fedor, his manager, and Russia altogether.... He'd probably call Fedor a coward and a sissy for eating ice cream cones and wearing dorky-sweaters that look like they were from the 1950s.
  111. Noize Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 03:45


    Fedor is officially dead to me. I supported mma since the first ufc tourny bought dvds books order all the damn ppvs fuck fedor ill never support shit he does if he doesnt singn with the ufc fuck m1 gayble too btw cp nice kmart fucking servers
  112. Darkside Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:40


    cant we just admit that fedor is nothing more than a bleeding vagina? if he really wanted to fight the best, he would. and he won't. because he's scared, whether of tarnishing his legacy or getting the shit knocked out of him, who knows. but he's a fucking pussy. it's enough for me to wanna see even cock chestner's retarded ass beat him down. life must suck as a coward, eh fedor?
  113. UFC fan Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:44


    "xlifetimex Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 08:19 ha you guys dont look at the big picture. tyson was making $20mil a fucking fight. GSP is not even near $1million. Pay per view generates hundreds of millions of dollars - UFC under pays LARGE. Fedor is winning this fight - UFC has a stranglehold on all the fighters. If they want him then they are going to have to pay for him. The way i see it - title holders/main event fighters shold be getting a percentage of the PPV hits or have a HUGE wage increase. Fuck UFC - Zuffa INC are ripping off the fighters." fuck you! You are retard! You must be Fedor come to spy on the hub, begone you russian troll turd.
  114. Streitigkaiser Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:54


    Fedor you are a fucking coward, this is just proof that you know you cant hack it in the cage and that LESNER IS BETTER THAN YOU. Finkelstein, you are just a money hungry russian jew whos grandfather got accidently skipped in Stalins purges, go to hell.
  115. AussieJosh Says:

    Thu, 07/30/09 - 11:47


    WELL FUCK ME UP THE ASS AND CALL ME GAY!!! And the bit you added at the end.... "Your own amusement park, and only you decide who gets to ride the roller-coaster. Isn't that what we've all dreamed about?" LOL!!!!!!!! i seen that episode of south park last night where cartmen does exactly that! His wife will do more then hit him with a rolling pin!!! Fedor will need all the Vodka in russia to make this pain go away!!!
  116. Sexyamas Orange Coat Says:

    Fri, 07/31/09 - 01:01


    Sexyama......only just but hey that is one mighty fine coat
  117. xlifetimex Says:

    Fri, 07/31/09 - 04:50


    ha De La Hoya/Mayweather fight - both fighters took come collectively over $70 million from one fight. UFC 100 - the entire fight card was near a million combined with bonuses. Maybe there is a pile of secret money being dished out that we dont know about. In 2006 UFC PPV set a alltime record - $200+ million. scam
  118. UFC fan Says:

    Fri, 07/31/09 - 06:33


    xlife again I must tell you...fuck off and die, you stupid piece of shit. nobody here wants to see MMA become corrupt like suckass boxing, go suck delafaggott's dick.
  119. xlifetimex Says:

    Fri, 07/31/09 - 08:00


    this is straight up business dude. No different then a salary cap in hockey. Fighters deserve more money if a company highly profits off of their performance. Boxing promoters were corrupt - fighters still got paid - LARGE.
  120. UFC fan Says:

    Fri, 07/31/09 - 10:57


    boxing sucks dick. salary caps suck. pro sports suck. over paid pro sports sucks. The ONLY fighters bitching are old, full of shit fighters who are useless like FRITO. those who cant, bitch..those who do..just fight.
  121. Bovice Says:

    Sun, 08/02/09 - 07:51


    Fedor needs to get rid of that goddamn Jew that is managing his career.
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