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Fedor Fighting in the UFC Seeming Less Likely as Time Goes On

("Evgeni, remind me to thank Scott Coker for these swans when we get to L.A. Dana White never bought me waterfowl.")

Call me cynical, but it’s seeming more and more unlikely that we’ll ever see Fedor Emelianenko in the UFC’s Octagon.

Many will recite the old "never say, ‘never,’" saying, but when you look at what both sides are saying, it’s seeming like an implausibility.

On last week’s Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Werdum conference call, the coveted Russian fighter revealed that he isn’t a fan of the UFC, due in large part to the disrespect shown by it fighters towards one another.

"What I meant to say was, I’m not a fan of watching [the UFCs] fights. Compared to the commercials, the promotion and anticipation of their fights and the shows I’ve seen, there seems to be a negativity in a lot of their shows, so I’m just not a fan of watching their programs,"
Fedor explained through an interpreter who apparently left out that Emelianenko said he is considering retiring in the not-too-distant future. "In some ways how the fights are presented, and the manner that they’re presented. Also, in some ways, the actions and behavior of some of the fighters in the UFC. It takes away from the sport."

I guess Fedor didn’t tune in to see how his fellow SF fighters treated each other during the Strikeforce: Nashville brawl.

Emelianenko’s management team, M-1 Global, has held steadfast to its demand that the only way a fight with Fedor in the UFC would take place is if they were allowed to co-promote the show — something UFC president Dana White says will never happen.

White explained his stance in a recent interview with Miami’s 790 "The Ticket" radio station, intimating that M-1 may be avoiding his guys like UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar and number one contender Shane Carwin:

“It will never happen in a million years. They are a minor league. Listen I have come to the realization and everyone else needs to too that Fedor doesn’t want to fight the best guys in the world. Believe me when I tell you guys I have done everything in my power, I have flown to crazy parts of the world, done all this stuff, been on the phone for hours, not hung out with my kids on weekends because I’m on the phone with these lunatics and just can’t make the deal. They don’t want to do it so we gotta get over it.” 

Lastly, M-1 executive Evgeni Kogan told MMAFighting’s Ariel Helwani today that expecting Fedor to go to the UFC to face guys with only a handful of fights (like Lesnar) on their records or who have only been fighting a handful of years (like, say, Brett Rogers), would be a slap in the face for someone with the experience and record of "The Last Emperor." 

"If, in a perfect world, he could be fighting anyone at heavyweight, I think there could be fights that are more interesting. In a perfect world. [Emelianenko] is at the top of his sport for ten years. I think to compare him or say he needs to fight people who have had three or four fights or five fights, I don’t think it’s doing justice to his career. It’s not holding him up in the light that he should be held up in. It’s not doing him justice."

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halfbreed23- June 23, 2010 at 8:42 am
"If, in a perfect world, he could be fighting anyone at heavyweight, I think there could be fights that are more interesting. In a perfect world. [Emelianenko] is at the top of his sport for ten years. I think to compare him or say he needs to fight people who have had three or four fights or five fights, I don't think it's doing justice to his career. It's not holding him up in the light that he should be held up in. It's not doing him justice."

This is absolutely true. Brock Lesnar's record is proof that he is not deserving of the stature he has received. He is a result of expert marketing and having a WWE fan base. People "getting tired" of Fedor are only sheep being controlled by said marketing campaign.
Keyser Soze- June 22, 2010 at 11:27 am
Fedor is Vadim/Strikeforce/M-1 Global's meal ticket and insurance policy all rolled in to one. Part ownership of M-1 Global is Fedor's post-retirement insurance, and I really can't fault him for that, he'd be foolish not to parlay his success and fame to his future benefit.

This is the biggest obstacle and we fans get the stalemate... there is a 99% chance Fedor will never see the inside of the UFC octagon. M-1 will not allow their poster boy to fight for a competing organization. Strikeforce will never allow M-1 to co-promote with the UFC, and to his credit, Dana White's business acumen is much better than Scott Coker's or Vadim Finkelstien's.

Dana has put a lot of time in effort into legitimizing the UFC as competitive sport, rather than human-cockfighting, and bringing it mainstream. Zuffa, DW, the UFC, and to a very small extent the WEC, risk and would end up sacrfiicing too much by entering into a co-promotional deal simply to get one fighter.

It would be worth it to Fedor and M-1 financially, but not for the UFC and Strikeforce. The UFC loses money and Strikeforce's partner M-1 (a term used loosely) turns around and stabs them in the back. M-1 would never broker a one-time deal, they would want their cake and eat it too.

If Fedor did ever fight a UFC competitor and for the sake of argument he lost, then they've lost any leverage that they have (or believe they have) on a one-shot deal.

There are some good fighters in Strikeforce, but the overall average talent is less than that of what the UFC has to offer. The same holds true for M-1. Most mma fans and the diehard purists will agree, Fedor was a great fighter. He's not the same as years ago, but i have no doubt he can still compete with the best heavyweights in the world.

Lately news about Fedor is just that... just news and nothing more.

Some random thoughts I've had...

WIll Fedor beat Werdum? Probably, but the fight is not one I'd go out of my way and pay big bucks for.

Is Fedor more talented than Lesnar? Without a doubt.

Would Fedor beat Lesnar? Probably not. Not to discredit Fedor, as he's a great fighter, but Lesnar's size and speed alone would likely earn him the win. I see Lesnar bullrushing Fedor and using his speed, strength and size to take him down, pretending to use the top control position to secretly teabag him, and grind out the win.

I'm with Ghostboner... I'd much rather see Fedor fight Silva. Fedor doesn't seem to fear anyone, and I personally think Silva's the better pure striker. This could be a very interesting fight, though it will never happen either.
MMAINMYBLOOD- June 22, 2010 at 10:13 am
LOL sorry bout that meant Frank Mur...
fatbellyfrank- June 22, 2010 at 3:23 am
@ MMAINMYBLOOD, I'm gettin all WTF, I didn't say any of that shit, then I scrolled back through the thread, and yeah, your right, he is a fucken idiot,
MMAINMYBLOOD- June 22, 2010 at 1:28 am
Frank ur an idiot. He beat Crocop when no one else except Nog and Randleman Could... I no u didnt take shit away from Nog...and Yes back in the day Randleman was good he koed Crocop and was the Heavywieght champ in UFC till bas rutten handled him. Go turn on ur xbox and then play as cock chestner as I am sure u do all the time faggot. The fact still remains ur Ignorant.
fatbellyfrank- June 21, 2010 at 10:40 pm
@Frank Mur, oh yes we do, and we look cool doin it, signifies to the world your a laidback skater, surfer, or just plain stoner slacker, as I said, we all wear em down under, and Ghostboner still loves us, so everyone elso can fuck emselves, or get on the socks and thongs bandwagon
ghostboner- June 21, 2010 at 10:10 pm
@FBF - Not even socks on thongs can kill my love for Aussies and Fedor.

I have wanted for years to see Anderson Silva fight Fedor. That, in my opinion would be better than Silva vs GSP. Anderson walks around at 220, Fedor 230, so the size diff would be minimal. Also would probably be the biggest ppv in mma history.
jizzninja- June 21, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Fedor will destroy any bum in the UFC. Look at how soft the UFC rules and mma rules in general have become. He fought cro cop while dude had legs like tree trunks. I hope he does retire soon. Mma doesn't deserve him anymore. Mma is becoming a haven for wanna be hard guys, yeah there's a hanfull of real fighters and yeah ufc does have a few of them but come on. And for those of you that think these new guys could compete with fedor are stupid. He is the epitome of a well rounded fighter. Btw carwin is the only guy I think is remotely worth fighting fedor, cockchest is a joke.
Frank Mur- June 21, 2010 at 9:14 pm

@"MMAINMYBLOOD" you are a nut hugger! Fedor didn't "Thrash" Crocop, he almost lost to him, watch the fight again, and when (since moving to Pride) was Randelman or Coleman ever a worthy opponent? Bottom line, he's good, even great, but when put up against any other great fighter he probably will lose..Rocked by Crocop, Rocked by Randelman(freakish suplex), Rocked by Fujita, Rocked by Arlovski, Rocked by Grim, (none of whom would have been considered top of the food chain at the time of their fights with Fedor), once again, he has yet to be tested, in my eyes, by top competetion. If any of the afore mentioned fighters were any damn good they not only would have finished his ass but they probably wouldn't have been fighting in second rate organizations.
.....and next time you're over to Fedors house eating ice cream off his bean bag, tell him that you don't wear socks with flip flops!
MMAINMYBLOOD- June 21, 2010 at 8:00 pm
You know the problem is most people talking about Fedor just found out about him like last year. Any of his doubters have not followed him through his whole career from when he got cut against TK and should have fought Randy back in the day thru the time when he thrashed Crocop(in his decapitating prime), beat Big Nog when no one else could and did it twice!! Beat Guys twice his size...beat buys like Randleman and coleman when no one really knew how good he was then, bottom line is this...The excuses that m-1 is giving is just to make sure they protect their investment. Believe it when I say they have nothing other than Fedor to keep them going. He is their number one and only bargaining chip. Without him they got nothing. I believe he is the greatest heavywieght fighter in the history of combat sports. But before you start typing out and spewing a bunch of garbage in reply to that ... remember he is not of any particularly amazing stature. He is not 6 foot five and 300 pounds he has to use skill and technique to win against larger stronger opponents. Something that the UFC fighters of late really do not display they rely on their size and strength rather than skill or technique, (not all of them). I can see where he is coming from and dont think he needs to beat Lesnar to prove jack shit. Lesnar, if he was 6 foot and 230 pounds would not have beat Randy at all. bottom line is he is garbage. The only HW fighter I think I would enjoy watching Fedor fight in the UFC is JDS anyone else would just try to lay and pray on him and hope the judges give him the win. So to all of you Fedor haters... Keep thinking what ur thinking Ignorance is forgivable in some situations.
fatbellyfrank- June 21, 2010 at 7:40 pm
@ Ghost, socks with thong sandals is considered fashionable footwear during the winter months Down under.
Nut Puncher 9000- June 21, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Fedor WAS the best fighter in the world when Pride was on top. There is no question about that, and even though I would love to see him in the UFC, I dont want to see another Legend of the sport lose on his way down and out. I had to watch Royce lose to Hughes, Liddell get the lights turned off over and over and over, Ken Shamrock go batshit crazy, and Coleman look old and slow. It will be hard to watch if they set up Fedor/Overeem. Fedor will lose to Overeem should that fight happen and then this back and forth Fedor crap can fade away like Val Kilmer's acting career.

Maybe we should just enjoy the fact that we get to watch the best there ever was finish his career, even if its crushing a few cans, and just stfu about where and how he chooses to do so.
ghostboner- June 21, 2010 at 7:05 pm
@FBF - I agree about the getting destroyed thing. That is what is killing me. Everybody loses sometime, and I would much rather see Fedor get beat by someone who a 70 lb weight advantage than Fabricio Werdum or someone else who couldn't cut it in the UFC. I either want him to beat the best, or go out losing to the best. I do not want to see him slip up against someone like Werdum. It would kill me.
fatbellyfrank- June 21, 2010 at 7:00 pm
@ AlmostNorth, yea I know, cant even remember my original point now, I just like Ice cream and nerdy sweaters. I'm gonna go and see if I can find a funny joke about Jenna's vag
ghostboner- June 21, 2010 at 7:00 pm
I love the Last Emperor, but he either needs to fight in the UFC or retire. Strikeforce is no place for a man with a 32-1 record who is being called the greatest fighter ever. You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Either drive your damn race car or get out. No room on the track for a guy to have the fastest car but refuses to race anyone because he just doesn't care, and he never said he was the fastest. His next fight is against a dude who looked like a scared child in the ring with Arlovski. Puh Leez.
fatbellyfrank- June 21, 2010 at 6:58 pm
@TKRomeo, because he's not the fighter he once was, so the guy they beat is not the monster they would have faced , say four years ago, Sure they can say they beat fedor, but not in his prime, and I wouldn,t say it was nut hugging( well of course he wouldn't) just the way it goes. I would have preferred not to see Chuck liddell go out the way he did, and I don't wanna see Fedor do the same. Because I'm a fan of both fighters, but that doesn't blind me to the fact their not the top dog anymore, I've enjoyed watching Fedor fight over the years and will still enjoy watching DVD's of him in his prime. I would just prefer not to see lesnar or Carwin destroy him, which , unfortunately would be the most likely outcome if he fought in the UFC.
ghostboner- June 21, 2010 at 6:54 pm
PEOPLE LISTEN!!! Fedor is wearing socks in that photo, so let's focus on the issues and not bicker over records and opponents and legacies. We've got... Thong sandals? Check. Nylon track pants? Czech. Swans, a pond between two houses, and bread crumbs for Swans? Cheque. Socks? Cheick. Shirt???
Almost North- June 21, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Thank you sir for the meth-addled wombats! I shall grill them with olive oil and tarragon and trip balls.

Sherdog is a sad sad place.
MediumRare- June 21, 2010 at 6:20 pm
@ Almost North

Hats off to you, sir. Made me lol plenty. Your comment just reminded me of so many of the meth-addled wombats on the Sherdog boards.

People like you, sir, are why I call CP home.
Almost North- June 21, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Everyone with a different opinion on Fedor from you is a fool and needs to be informed. Keep fighting the good fight.
Tai-Pan- June 21, 2010 at 6:05 pm
First of all still a Machida fan...

Nuthugging is an art where the artist truly becumes one with their art. Trust me, I know.
rlh61- June 21, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@Kimbos Bread...have you lost your mind??

No mortal can enter the cage with The Most Interesting Man in the World. Stay thirsty, my friends...

fatbellyfrank- June 21, 2010 at 5:48 pm
ccman Says:
Tue, 06/22/2010 - 10:11
A. I bought ufc 1. Not lying. I been a fan way longer than 5 months.
B. Fedor is 5 years past fighting anyone worth mentioning. That does not = 8 years as king. Max 5, arguably 3.
C. Once again, fedor owns a piece of m-1. They are not his sword but his sheild.
D. You have to not understand how mma has evolved if you think you are a ufc nuthugger to not note fedor will not fight any threats. I get the polarization of fans, but what beats fedor never fights fedor. He fights weaker versions of him or bigger\slower fighters. Big and explosive is ducked period.
E. The hypocrisy of what was said is insane, you are a fucking moron if you missed it if you have seen beyond the AA fight..... further but I doubt you saw it.
F. The false drama in your utopian pride fights makes the ufc look like seseme street. Plus fights with no warning, bad medical, and mafia fixes. You want that? Watch the world cup and go away
CCman, not sure if your responding to me or the entire post, but here goes
A. Cool
B.I would say three years, but yeah, he's nowhere near the beast he once was
C. Even more reason he wont fight in UFC
D. Last few fights agree, and definitely moving forward, I would never say fedor was scared/avoiding anyone, but he's smart enough to know his limitations these days, another reason we wont see him in the UFC heavyweight division.
E. I think we'd all agree M-1 are full of shit, arguments they tossed up in the article are pretty see through, bottom line, Dana thinks M-1/Strikefarce are amateur hour and couldn't be bothered anymore. M-1/Strikefarce are just delusional. The entire Strikeforce organisation is a fucken comedy, you couldn't script the shit they come up with on a regular basis.
F. Not sure what you mean in the first half of point F , but as for second part, see response to point E.
And whats wrong with the world cup?

In one of my comments yesterday I suggested people re watch the Fedor= Rodgers fight, really have a good look at it, then imagine Big Country Nelson fought in place of Rodgers, for me, thats all the evidence I need to know Fedor will never grace the UFC octagon, however he will always have my respect as one of the great MMA heavyweights.
And I agree with everything Motropolis said.
Viva Hate- June 21, 2010 at 5:45 pm
I said it earlier and I will say it again, Fedor versus The Gobbledy Gooker here we come.
MediumRare- June 21, 2010 at 5:44 pm
@ El Guapo

Anonymous was wrong. Actually, to understand a nuthugger you just have to do as a nuthugger does.

Hug someone's nuts. You will find the nuts warm and comforting. You will become attached to the nuts. And if you surrender yourself to the experience, you will soon find yourself willing to defend the owner of the nuts to the death.