In a new interview with Bas Rutten on “Inside MMA” Fedor Emelianenko talks about his toughest fights, his friendship with Josh Barnett, and whether he’ll eventually end up in the UFC, as Dana White has predicted. Fedor seems like he’s in no hurry to sign on the dotted line, at least at the moment. He calls the contract terms he’s been offered “unacceptable” and admits that he’d like to fight a big, “serious” guy like Brock Lesnar, though perhaps not enough to make himself an indentured servant to the UFC:
“At the present time, I don’t think so, I don’t think you’ll see me in the UFC, just because the terms, and the manner in which those terms are offered, are not acceptable today.”
Looks like the ball’s in your court, DW. Do you make the man a better offer, or at least be a little nicer to him? Or do you just wait him out and figure sooner or later he’ll have to sign unless he wants to drift off into irrelevance, which he may very well be willing to do?
After the jump, Josh Barnett answers some viewer emails and tells us the one thing he knows he can beat Fedor at: drinking contest. Christ, how can you not love Barnett?
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Wed, 07/15/09 - 10:39
I want to see Fedor take on Lesnar. That'd be a sweet fight to watch!!!
Wed, 07/15/09 - 10:54
Fedor Lesnar ftw. Is that Mr. Shamcock next to Barnett?
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:04
id imagine if the UFC gave Fedor half of what they gave Lesnar he would sign with the UFC today. And I doubt Fedor would anger the fans, sponsors and promoters in an attempt to make MMA look like a bunch of Vince McMahon buffoonery.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:06
I respect a man who is not willing to compromise what he wants in order to make a few extra dollars. I have never believed Fedor was the greatest ever but apparently he doesn't need or want the UFC money enough to sign something unacceptable. As for drifting off into irrelevance; that is the ultimate end for any sports figure. At least when it happens to Fedor he will have ended his career on his terms and not Dana White's. Something tells me that Fedor will live the rest of his life and not spend one second regretting this decision.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:06
I honestly don't know if I want to see Lesnar vs. Fedor. I think Lesnar would stand a chance (if minor) of winning by way of shear force and weight, and if he did I'm not sure how much I could enjoy the sport thereafter. It would be a sad mark on Fedor's legacy and would be insufferable cannon fodder for the people who wage the eternal war against Fedor's reputation (Fedor deniers, if you will).
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:10
Affliction and Strikeforce seem to get along i wouldn't mind an allistair or werdum match up, I think the lesner fight will lose interest once brock loses which i see happening.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:19
When Fedor retires, just think how many Russian sex slaves he'll be able to afford with the kind of money he's made. Especially since he'd be getting them at wholesale "at the source" prices.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:21
The guy who may go down as the greatest ever in MMA just wants to be remembered as a "regular guy" I think humble might be the correct word to describe him.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:21
Its easy to forget until you see an interview with Fedor how much differently he thinks than most popular athletes. I think its easy for us americans who are surrounded by the glitz and glamor of fame and money to lose ourselves a bit and sometimes forsake the idea of morality and humbleness for the sake of ego and pride in opportunities that we sometimes feel we have to 'better ourselves' in any worldly fashion. I say all this, cause lately there has been such a stir about Fedor making his way to the UFC to fight Brock for the sake of what others might see as 'the better way'. Whether it has to do with money/fame/supposed greater challenges/etc. But watching that interview above, its seems apparent that none of that is a worry or even a thought to Fedor for the most part. Life is simple for him and I think he's happy and at peace. And for Fedor, thats good enough for him. He fights because he loves the sport, and past that, the hoopla that I think surrounds the UFC (i say that as a fan of the UFC) is of no interest to him. The more and more I think about it, it seems as though in our minds we see no explanation for Fedor not coming to the UFC, other than the supposed crazy stipulations in the contract. But I just wonder if in contrast to the way the majority of MMA athletes view the UFC and seeing that as their peak to reach, its minimal in the mind of Fedor and something that he'd be fine with if it never happened. Its a funny thought to think of those that will forever waste their energy on comments like, "Fedor will never be the greatest until he makes his way to the UFC and proves himself". Even funnier is to think of Fedor's lack of care on comments like that. -Dr Phil
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:24
Let's get a fund going to get Fedor to the UFC. If we get enough money together he won't be able to refuse. That is the first thing I proposed to my friends as soon as Lesnar pummeled Mir. He needs to be put down, and who better than Fedor?
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:24
ya i can hear the gears of MMA come to a screeching halt if Fedor were to lose to Brock Lesnar. Everything that these guys have worked for would be thrust back to the dark ages if that were to happen.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:25
Case Race: Josh Barnett, Fedor Emelianenko and Don Frye vs. Drew Fickett.....who ya got?
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:26
Onan, you said it better in a lot fewer words. If I hadnt been writing when you posted yours, I would have done away with my post. Well said.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:27
accidental re-post. my bad.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:35
You know what? I like Fedor as much as the next guy, but lets all take a step back. He refuses to fight in the biggest venue possible because of the offer he's getting? Come on. I'm sure Danas offering him a lot more than ten grand a fight, and this would be a way to get his name into the heads of all those new MMA fans that might not know who he is, because he fights for the shit ass companies that nobody watches. People can talk up how good he is forever, but he's not fighting the top competition. Step up to the plate and stop crying about cash. But lets be honest....Brock would kill the guy.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:44
Fedor is like the Zen Guru of MMA. This dude does not care. He doesn't care about Zuffa's money. He doesn't care who he fights. He doesn't care what anyone thinks of him. He doesn't care what sweater he wears. He just doesn't care. That being said after he beats the crap out of Josh Barnett then the only thing left for him outside of the UFC will be one of those big Russian bears. And just to be sporting they better leave the bears claws in so he will have some sort of chance against Fedor.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:46
@ AgentoftheBat: I don't think Fedor's crying about cash at all. I think he's crying about things like exclusivity clauses, likeness rights, etc.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:47
They should offer to build him a roller coaster made of ice cream.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:48
If I was Fedor, as soon as the word "inevitable" came out of Dana White's mouth, my price just doubled. Basically Dana's saying that sooner or later he'll 'own' the Russian like he 'owns' everyone else. I don't see the Last Emperor being owned by anybody. Fedor will just go back home and coach Sambo rather than being under Dana's thumb. @Sjsurf Yep, that was Ken "Least Dangerous Man" Shamrock. He even brought some old UFC belts to the show to make himself feel more important.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:52
Brock would lay on fedor, do you honestly think fedor could submit brock if mir couldn't? fedor is smaller then mir, lesnar would just lay on him and turn his face into hamburger hill. Genetics are all that matters here and fedor isn't even close to comparing to brock lesnar. TKO GnP round 3, just because fedor can take some damage. Only thing that's gonna stop brock is something his size.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:54
Humility and honor aside, one 'acceptable' offer from Zuffa and I bet Fedor is in the UFC. Meek but deadly Russian patriots like earning big scratch just as much as Minnesotan deer hunting wrestlers. The sticking point here is what is acceptable. As far as true tests of one's ability in MMA, does anyone really think that The Last Emperor was itching to get at Big Timmeh to prove himself? What about Lindland or the Korean Yeti? Those were paydays, and there is absolutlely nothing wrong with that. If the price (and most importantly the terms) on a UFC contract is right, Fedor will be in the octagon. If the UFC bends over backwards and Fedor still stays away, then I think it could legitimately bring questions as to his being the dominant HW in the world. I for one hope he does sign, and soon.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:54
AgentoftheBat: Fedor never mentions money when discussing the poor terms of the UFC offering expect to say that it's not about money but the restrictions of the contract, i.e. their exclusive rights, inability to compete in his first love, sambo, and other issues. Your argument, then, doesn't follow.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:00
Speaking of old Kenny boy. Did anyone see this episode when the host dude (not Bas) asked Ken if he thought Brock was the new "World's Most Dangerous Man". And Shamrock instead answering the question and taking the lead into a conversation about Lesnar gets all pissed of and goes off on a tangent about how you can't just steal someones nick name. Once you have a nick name it's yours forever!
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:03
you know, i really like fedor. i have a profound respect for the person that fedor seems to be. who wants to deal with a jackal like dana white? he has no manners or respect for fighters other than how much he can buy them for. fedor on the other hand seems to only want to deal with people who are honest and humble, must like he seems to be. i can imagine dana white coming into a room wanting to talk about drawing up a contract and saying, "fuckin' fuck yah, we'll fucking sign a fucking deal to get you in tha fuckin' cage fedor fuck! and you'll fight fuckin' lesnar and make a shitload of fuckin' money!!! we'll fuckin' be fuckin' rich!!" and then, i imagine fedor sitting there thinking: dana white is not someone i want to get into business with. dana uses and abuses his position to manipulate and destroy the lives of people of whom he gets rich off of. he's foul. as of today, i no longer pay to watch ufc PPV events. i will never buy a ticket to see a live UFC event. i will never buy the video game, never put any of my money towards the action figurines, t-shirts, hats, gloves - anything - branded under the ufc. the only ufc fight i'll pay to see is: fedor in the cage with dana white - old style, no rules.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:10
One point that Bas brought up in the interview was the aura of being the mysterious Russian and how it effects opponents. I think it also effects MMA fans as well. One theory I have is that if Brock Lesnar were from some obscure Eastern European hellhole, didn't speak any english (have fun with that one), and had an unpronounceable name, he would be better loved by the so-called hardcore MMA fans. Still the same fighter, same size and fighting style, but different nationality and I believe he would have a Cro-cop like cult following. Even his arrogance, questionable intellect, supposed homophobia, and bad temperament would be overlooked if he had that cold war killing machine mystique and not midwestern idiot vibe.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:19
i remember an interview i read a while back with fedor and his manager. his manager said the money wasnt the problem with the contract, he wanted to bring bring a few fighters into the ufc and represent for Red Devil Fight Club but dana woudlnt negotiate so they wouldnt sign. he actually said the ufc was offering more money than anyone else. Russians are the tough negotiators, they probably left their hammer at home for that one though.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:19
WAR BARNETT!!! i'd love to see attencio vs. DW also.. that would b well worth the ppv price!
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:22
For the sake of my soul and the world around me, I do my best on a daily basis to keep negative words from flying from mouth, especially in the direction of other people. But you're a damn idiot. "Do you honestly think fedor could submit brock if mir couldnt?" Did you honestly think that writing that phrase was halfway intelligent? "Genetics are all that matters here" Really?!?! So, we're throwing out the door years of experience and an unbelievable god given gift as a fighter? We're throwing out the door possibly the best takedown defense in MMA? We're throwing away reflex timing that should not be obtained by any heavyweight fighter? And we're sweeping under the rug a patience and mental stability that has no match in MMA? All because theres 'genetics' at hand. Listen, I give Brock credit. He is a phenom of an athlete. But....gosh.....I dont know what to say at this point. Ill say this: Do you respect the mind of guys like GSP/Miguell Torres/Frank Mir (yes Frank Mir has said it, before Dana white jumped on his ass) Wanderlei Silva? If so, then understand that all of those guys among others have stated that Fedor is hands down the greatest fighter they have ever seen. If you dont respect their opinions.....well then, point proven. Nothing but love for ya So So.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:26
what fedor could do better than anyone else is pick out a weakness with brock and use that to beat him. brock may not give him the chance and pound him out like he did mir but i doubt it. hes big and strong but i guarantee fedor knows how to beat him.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:26
Genetics? Thats all you need? BS. time and time agian, and if I need to start pointing out examples then you wouldn't understand, the goliath is slain by david. My grandfather had a saying " when a man is determined not to lose, he is the most dangerous. Brock is the new Tyson. It may take a while and I actually like Brock a little, but he is due for a humiliating defeat. We all are. He is a phenom I will give him that. Carwin is very close in size so does that mean the shane should plow everyone. Fedor will turn that aggression agianst him. and for you hater who say he was losing agianst Andre remember that at any moment life can change quickly and why and what evaporate...the only thing left is the big W in Fedors record. Brock is a house built on sand.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:28
And if you don't think Lesnar can be submitted by Fedor you are truly a Mutha fu*& ing FOOL.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:29
lesnar the new tyson. you kidding me?
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:30
Amen, Soda Popinski. I didn't think his comments were worth a response, but I guess I'm glad someone did it.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:32
Lesnar vs Fedor is not a very good matchup anyway. It'll be as boring as the other fights with Lesnar securing the easy takedowns and laying on top of his opponent every round just bashing away. Fedor is unquestionably the better mixed-martial artist, but so were Couture, Mir and Herring. Against Lesnar it simply didn't matter. It'll have to be someone like Carwin with similar size and wrestling ability.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:46
"Carwin is very close in size so does that mean the shane should plow everyone." If you look, Carwin is doing exactly that. He's undefeated, with eleven consecutive victories within the first half of the first round.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 12:57
Brock Lesnar is not even close to deserving a shot at Fedor. He needs to beat the winner of Velasquez/Carwin and Big Nog (if he takes Randy) before the Fedor talk can start.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 01:14
Fuck Fedor and his bullshit "terms are not acceptable" routine. What, you expect the UFC to allow you to fight for other promotions while under contract to the UFC? Right. Let me get this straight. The UFC invests tons of dough into making you a huge star, and you expect the UFC to facilitate another promotion to profit from your participation in a non-UFC event? What part of the fighting business does Fedor and his management not fucking understand? And don't give me this bullshit that "Fedor is already a huge star, so what could the UFC do for him". If Fedor was in the UFC, he would be 10 times the star he is now, and he'd be swimming in cash because of it. And somehow the UFC is the bad guy for not allowing him to fight in Sambo tournaments (which he frequently loses), and fight for other bullshit MMA promotions. Fuck Fedor and his management. Once he gets his head out of his ass and decide to understand business, then come talk to Dana. Otherwise, keep the "myth" perpetuating. And who knows, maybe Josh Barnett will beat Fedor's pudgy ass, then his stock value will plummet. That would be an interesting twist.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 01:18
@ Zescape Lesnar in now the undisputed UFC champion, like it or not he is the man to beat. Fedor, if signed, would be the challenger. The belt is Lesnar's to defend, he doesn't have to earn any fights nor deserve them.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 01:22
JPfighter = Dana White.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 01:23
@Zescape As quoted from the movie Unforgiven, "deserve's got nothin' to do with it". The fact of the matter is that Fedor himself is the only person stopping this fight from happening. The plain simple fact is that Fedor wants to have a contract where he can milk the UFC for exposure, then allow his Russian M-1 mafia business associates to exploit that exposure to launch their organization and profit. And Dana and Zuffa are not going to let that happen. So, either Fedor and his camp do a straight deal with the UFC, or he can sit by and watch as Lesnar becomes the biggest HW star in MMA.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 01:25
@PurplePickle True, a language barrier might have helped Lunchbox's image. He'd also be more popular if he wore a muzzle. what does that tell you? also the homophobia isn't "supposed." he stated it clearly once, twice, then went back to make sure it was recorded. also also, Crocop doesn't have a "cult" following. he's a freaking superstar. that is all
Wed, 07/15/09 - 01:34
@ Sinanju is Back I said supposed, because I don't buy the PC bullshit that is attached to the word. As far as Cro-Cop's superstar status, the past couple of years haven't been kind. Superstar is a bit of a stretch as of 2009.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 01:37
@Sinanju Cro Cop is a "freaking superstar"? Where, in Croatia and Japan? He got his ass handed to him by 2nd rate fighters in the UFC. Cro Cop is a fabrication...he's a product of building up a fighter by handing him tomato cans. Pride was masterful at doing this. Remember the clown they had him fight with a wrestling mask on? Exactly. C'mon back to the UFC Cro Cop, your superstar status awaits. LOL. Maybe Junior should wear a wrestling mask, just for old times sake.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 01:40
JPfighter, you have your DW impression, including grammar characteristics, straw-men and non sequitur down to a tee.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 01:47
From my close and anonymous sources... Fedor is concerned about his ability to continue to promote sambo in Russia as a healthy and non criminal activity for the impoverished Russian youth. His end goal is to use his fame and fortune to make his country better for future generations, goals that include building at least one large sambo/athletic training center. This will cost him a lot of money personally. He has massive income through commercial endorsements in Japan as well as Russia. These endorsements use the very same likeness that UFC very much wants to trademark for their own gain. Keep in mind, the UFC charges 200k annually just for the right to get your name on a fighter's shirt or banner now days. So what will they take from a Japanese soda ad? Fedor is also a VERY smart and savvy business man and understands that once he signs with the UFC, his ability to market himself or "build his own brand" is now the sole property of the UFC in perpetuity. He has plans after fighting for himself, his family, and his country that the UFC does not care about. He is looking for a contract that basically allows the company to "rent" his image and reputation to use while he is under contract and then to relinquish when the contract is up. None of these "lifetime likeness" contracts the UFC requires of all of their fighters.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 01:55
I mean the new tyson in hype. I watched and cheered for tyson. He was short for a heavy weight and in the thought patern of the BROCKOLITES he should have been destroyed by bigger guys. My point is fucksticks Brocks got all the attributes that should make him a superstar, but how many have we seen just like him end up finished in side of two years. And all you d-bags will be sating "I knew it" or "HE was winning that fight" Yea just like Andre....all the way to the time he got Knocked the fuck out. Keep on sucking on brocks cock and your gonna get a bad taste soon YEA I AM A HATER SO F U
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:01
theres something about fedor, that seems very dishonest, i cant put my finger on it, but i think he puts on this whole show of being at peice with everything in the world, hope someday someone will find some dirt on this guy, but theres no doubt in my mind, he will beat up brock lesnar.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:11
"If Fedor was in the UFC, he would be 10 times the star he is now, and he'd be swimming in cash because of it." and as the interview makes clear, he doesn't care. he has no apparent interest in dating porn stars, ice cream is fairly cheap, and america is far the hell away. screw it. admirable attitude, imo. also, he's lost *one* sambo match in the last ten years. anyway...
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:17
@Sinanju So, if he doesn't care about the money, then sign to fight Lesnar. Simple. When somebody tells me they don't care about the money, my bullshit meter goes on high alert, and my internal translator tells me that they are really saying "it's all about money". MMA fans shouldn't pretend to know anything about the character or intent of Fedor. If it wasn't about money, the contract would already be signed and he would be here.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:23
One Two Says: Wed, 07/15/2009 - 11:10 Affliction and Strikeforce seem to get along i wouldn't mind an allistair or werdum match up, I think the lesner fight will lose interest once brock loses which i see happening. >>>> Oh you think Fans will lose interest just like that? man...where do you get your shit, man? I'd like to smoke some, too. As long as Brock is in the UFC, he will continue to be a draw...win or lose. If he loses, he'll just get mad and destroy his next opponent, regardless if it's at the bottom rung or not....
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:26
"PurplePickle Says: Wed, 07/15/2009 - 12:10 One point that Bas brought up in the interview was the aura of being the mysterious Russian and how it effects opponents. I think it also effects MMA fans as well. One theory I have is that if Brock Lesnar were from some obscure Eastern European hellhole, didn't speak any english (have fun with that one), and had an unpronounceable name, he would be better loved by the so-called hardcore MMA fans. Still the same fighter, same size and fighting style, but different nationality and I believe he would have a Cro-cop like cult following. Even his arrogance, questionable intellect, supposed homophobia, and bad temperament would be overlooked if he had that cold war killing machine mystique and not midwestern idiot vibe." >>> Brock could've been a real-life IVAN DRAGO(hell he almost looks like him...lol) but all kidding aside....The Fans get on him 'cause he's WWE in their eyes and that will never change. And the MMA crybabies can't stand the fact that he's a former WWE guy, and is being successful.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:26
Well then al things being equal he should beat Lesnar easily. His record is deeper and he has more experience. Right? That was kinda my point to start with. The top two contenders are, on paper, better than Brock yet all allot of people are saying is "Brock will be the greatest forever blah blah blah.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:30
JPfighter (DW's internet presence): "MMA fans shouldn't pretend to know anything about the character or intent of Fedor." Unless they agree with your bullshit meter, because, of course it's OK for you to pretend to know but not anyone else?
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:32
"JPfighter Says: Wed, 07/15/2009 - 13:14 Fuck Fedor and his bullshit "terms are not acceptable" routine. What, you expect the UFC to allow you to fight for other promotions while under contract to the UFC? Right. Let me get this straight. The UFC invests tons of dough into making you a huge star, and you expect the UFC to facilitate another promotion to profit from your participation in a non-UFC event? What part of the fighting business does Fedor and his management not fucking understand? And don't give me this bullshit that "Fedor is already a huge star, so what could the UFC do for him". If Fedor was in the UFC, he would be 10 times the star he is now, and he'd be swimming in cash because of it. And somehow the UFC is the bad guy for not allowing him to fight in Sambo tournaments (which he frequently loses), and fight for other bullshit MMA promotions. Fuck Fedor and his management. Once he gets his head out of his ass and decide to understand business, then come talk to Dana. Otherwise, keep the "myth" perpetuating. And who knows, maybe Josh Barnett will beat Fedor's pudgy ass, then his stock value will plummet. That would be an interesting twist. " +1 this.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:32
OH RIGHT... FEDOR HAS OBVIOUSLY SUBBED ALL THE HUGE NAMES.... Kevin Randleman, obviously best sub defense in the world, no where near brocks size or wrestling pedigree Tim Sylvia, BJJ BLACK BELT AMIRITE? no muscle at compared to brock, shit wrestling Hung Man Choi, WTF LMAO!!!!! doesnt even know what MMA stands for. You guys just suck Fedors nuts too much, he is a very good fighter but he has NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER, fought someone with the wrestling pedigree that lesnar has, nore the sheer size and power (brock would rape hung man choi) Get that stubble dick out of your ass and get to the facts, fedor can't stop brocks takesdown, are you shitting me? His only chance would be to knock brock out, which isn't easy with that giant watermelon sized fucking ape head. I can't wait for these two to fight, brock will smother him and will rape him badly, then everyone will come here and complain brock is too big. Just another walk in the park losers.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:35
"Wyatt Says: Wed, 07/15/2009 - 13:47 From my close and anonymous sources... Fedor is concerned about his ability to continue to promote sambo in Russia as a healthy and non criminal activity for the impoverished Russian youth. His end goal is to use his fame and fortune to make his country better for future generations, goals that include building at least one large sambo/athletic training center. This will cost him a lot of money personally. He has massive income through commercial endorsements in Japan as well as Russia. These endorsements use the very same likeness that UFC very much wants to trademark for their own gain. Keep in mind, the UFC charges 200k annually just for the right to get your name on a fighter's shirt or banner now days. So what will they take from a Japanese soda ad? Fedor is also a VERY smart and savvy business man and understands that once he signs with the UFC, his ability to market himself or "build his own brand" is now the sole property of the UFC in perpetuity. He has plans after fighting for himself, his family, and his country that the UFC does not care about. He is looking for a contract that basically allows the company to "rent" his image and reputation to use while he is under contract and then to relinquish when the contract is up. None of these "lifetime likeness" contracts the UFC requires of all of their fighters." >>>> If that's Fedor's plan, then he's got a problem(and so do fans here that want to see him in the UFC fight Brock) 'cause there's no freakin' way that Dana is going to pay all that money just to 'RENT' him. All the Fedor Fanboys can now go away forever 'cause it's now apparent that FEDOR WILL *NEVER* SET FOOT IN THE UFC.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:42
"So, if he doesn't care about the money, then sign to fight Lesnar. Simple." he can't "sign to fight lesnar" he has to sign a long-term exclusive contract to fight whoever UFC tells him to, fly wherever they tell him to and promote whatever bs product they tell him to, and basically do whatever the hell they tell him to at all times for the length of the contract. plus no more sambo. complicated.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:48
@Clayton My bad. Fedor is a humanitarian and a saint, that is solely interested in what is best for the sport, for his country and for the children of the world. And for those reasons, he cannot sign with the UFC. What a load of shit. Fedor is like a fucking comic book character. He's as mythical and powerful as is presented on the pages. Pride created this myth. No dout that Fedor is a great fighter, but we will never know how great he really is, unless he stops hiding behind all these bullshit reasons for not signing with the UFC.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:52
"there's no freakin' way that Dana is going to pay all that money just to 'RENT' him." so its his fault that Dana likes to "buy" people? he should submit to being "owned" because everyone else does?
Wed, 07/15/09 - 02:53
@Sinanju No shit. Thanks for clarifying what everyone in MMA already knows. Genius. Either he accepts those terms, or he can fight sambo, or fight whatever other opponents the t-shirt guys can come up with (Barnett, Arlovski, etc.). Furthermore, if Fedor is such a big fucking deal, why are the t-shirt guys struggling to sell PPV's?
Wed, 07/15/09 - 03:03
JPfighter: I just added false dichotomy and straw man to the list of logical back flips you'll resort to to convince yourself that Fedor is a crap fighter and a crap person and that you're above caring whether or not he comes to the UFC. The thing is, though, your vitriol and the vitriol of those like you speaks volumes about how you really feel. You want Fedor in the UFC as much as anyone else, including Dana. You're desperate to see if Lesnar can actually perform against Fedor. Since you can't have your way, you have to demonize both Fedor and his fans. Your cognitive dissonance needs resolution, and you're trying to curse your way out. Good luck.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 03:11
"No shit. Thanks for clarifying what everyone in MMA already knows. Genius. Either he accepts those terms, or he can fight sambo, or fight whatever other opponents the t-shirt guys can come up with (Barnett, Arlovski, etc.). Furthermore, if Fedor is such a big fucking deal, why are the t-shirt guys struggling to sell PPV's?" Let's take a look at this. "Either he accepts those terms, or he can fight sambo." That's the point people have expressed. Fedor doesn't really care, and that's why he's not in the UFC. If you were right in your previous statements and your bullshit meter had any critical weight, he'd be in the UFC by your own measure? What's not holding up, here? "Furthermore, if Fedor is such a big fucking deal, why are the t-shirt guys struggling to sell PPV's?" Why don't you explain why this is Fedor's fault? Try to exercise sound logic, because the true reasons for Affliction's PPV buys are clear to everyone else, so snake oil's only going to make you look foolish. So, let's hear it.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 03:22
@ Clayton I agree, and it seems like JPfighter is talking in circles
Wed, 07/15/09 - 03:26
I had no idea that so many people on CP loved the taste of Fedor's balls. I will pray that Barnett does not defeat Fedor, otherwise we may have a mass suicide on our hands.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 03:36
@Clayton That was one of the best displays of verbal masturbation I have ever seen. Well done. You are right about a few things, I do want to see Fedor in the UFC as much as anyone else. And if he does face Lesnar, I really don't care who wins. I'm just tired of the bullshit reasons that Fedor uses to play hard-to-get with the UFC, and hearing people talk about him as though he is an invincible superhero. And unfortunately Fedor is not getting any younger, and is staying relatively inactive. If he truly wants to make an exclamation point in his MMA career, there is only one place to do it. However, I never said he was a crap fighter or a crap person. In fact, I said he is a great fighter. As for who he is as a person, I have no fucking idea. Unlike the Fedor nuthuggers on CP, I don't pretend to read his mind. I do however know from experience in business that if someone says "it's not about money", that it damn well is about money. That's not about knowing Fedor, that's just an observation from experience. It's no different than talking to a douchebag that prefaces a statement with "I'm going to be honest with you...". The bullshit meter kicks in. Understand? Or do you need to verbally masturbate again?
Wed, 07/15/09 - 03:38
Somebody should make a .gif of Bas in the 2nd video at about 2:30...I'd do it but I'm too stupid to know how.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 03:47
JPfighter, finally some straight talk and honesty. I understand you still need to call names and back fill your previous errors, but good on you for trying to make amends from your previous glaring gaps in critical thought. Allow me to rehash, but this time with fewer syllables: As we have it, in sum, you just don't trust Fedor, for no particular reason other than the fact that a lot of people in sport and business only really care about their payday, so Fedor probably does too, and therefore Fedor's "nuthuggers" are at the far end of your bizarre chosen mission to shut up people who don't agree? That's an awful lot to get so worked up about, don't you think? But what you're saying still adds up to a lot of nothing. You call bullshit because you presume Fedor is just another greedy schmo and flip out when anyone goes with the evidence we have supporting the contrary. If it's OK for you to bass everything you say on unsupported, rampant presumption, why is it not OK for us to trust him at least a little?
Wed, 07/15/09 - 03:54
Fedor has been extra boring lately. He beats a glass-jawed Arlovski after he was behind in the fight. Arv just got knocked out even quicker. He beats a nobody Tim Sylvia, who is a joke lately and gets knocked out even quicker since. He beats a freakshow who has lost his last 3. 4 fights ago, he beats a 185 lber. 5 fights ago, he beats a guy who was in the middle of a 5 fight losing streak. **** Who has he beat lately. It seems to me that he has been beating up on has beens and hasnt fought any new-era fighters... A Barnett victory wouldnt surprise me, and I think Carwin would steamroll him.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 03:58
@Clayton Honesty? How the fuck do you know if, or when, I am being honest? Are you psychic? Perhaps that is how you know that Fedor is being honest. Shit, that is quite a gift you have.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 03:59
The Truth speaks the truth.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 04:01
Can you imagine if Brock Lesnar or Mir would have fought the same last 5 people as Fedor? Dismemberment? If Lesnar got 5 like that, MMA may get banned.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 04:05
JPfighter, uh, how ironic is this: "Honesty? How the fuck do you know if, or when, I am being honest?" Funny you should ask! I have a bullshit meter that tells me, based on experience, that your full of shit. That clear? No one else is allowed to use it, though, and if you disagree with me, I'll call you names and curse a lot for emphasis.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 04:21
Clayton, your definition of honesty is when people say something that you agree with. How could someone's OPINION possibly be dishonest? Think about it genius. You appear to be getting a little too caught up your pseudo-intellectual word games. Although, that in itself is entertaining.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 04:22
The Truth once again speaks the truth.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 04:30
JPfighter, your inability to see the double standards throughout your argument is only slightly more staggering than your ability to change your own argument from point to point and sentence to sentence. Your ability to understand what I'm saying only when it's convenient to your argument is at once frustrating and makes this an exercise in futility. Best of luck to you on your mission. Careful what direction you point that bullshit meter or you might not like the results.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 04:34
when did fedor say he didn't care about money? last i checked fedor had a big list of demands and wanted a shit load of money in the above video, he said he doesn't care about his legacy, which probably means he doesn't care about the people he fights if that's true, then waiting fedor out might not be the best move ...or maybe he becomes irrelevant, then the ufc won't care about fedor anymore
Wed, 07/15/09 - 04:38
Clayton, your pseudo intellectual babble is truly entertaining. Perhaps even more entertaining than watching Fedor defeat second rate fighters. You seem far more interested in dissecting the words on this board than actually discussing the facts. You must be a riot at parties. LOL.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 05:07
Wow! CP has just become full of MMA promoters and marketers and fools who just dribble verbal shit to out do each other. How the Fck would any of you know the real deal? We all no the the truth, we just got alot of "UFC NUTHUGGERS' in here. Lol watch one PPV, and now u guys are talking about shirt sales in your arguments, go to some other faggy comments section and post ur shit there.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 06:45
Fedor won't agree to the exclusive UFC terms because of Sambo (simply put), Fedor enjoys competing in sambo and the UFC contracts will not allow him to compete in sambo tournaments as well as UFC mma. It's not a money issue, and it's not an issue of how big and scary his opponents will be (have you seen the giants he has cut down?), it's simply the exclusiveness that the UFC demands that he doesn't agree with. He is a humble, talented, and focused man that knows what he wants out of life in the bottom of his heart, the UFC contract means nothing to him if it tells him what he can and cannot not do in terms of competing in other events. I applaud his career, and his character.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 10:28
I don't give 2 shakes of shit about fedor. The day that useless bag of shit decided to be a real fighter and act like one I might pay attention. I do not want to see a 1 shot fight with fedor coming in for 1 fight and leaving, I want to see his ass go through the ranks and fight his way up. he has fought nothing but cans, and has-beens, I want to see him fight a younger stronger, faster opponent, he will find that in the UFC not in these girl school for the blind shows. Fedor hasn't proved shit or deserves shit from the UFC no huge contract, just step up and earn it you russian fuck.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:04
you guys all crack me up, soda you are a very intelligent guy. i like fedor, cant stand brock, dont ive a shit about mir. brock a top fihter because he beat someone whos only been back in the game for how long? then heath herrin, which fedor destroyed. randy randy randy, past his prime just like wandy. the technique went nowhere but as you can see from a couple of shots...he cant take it like he used too. to even think that you guys understand fedors money situation is ignorant. he has more folding dough than any of you guys, most of the ufc guys if not all. plus when you dont burn brides what does he really have to spend money on...so what does that leave him that a ufc fighter will never have, his likeness and control of his own career. just as easy as brock got beat by mir the first time, anythin can happen. it just hasnt happened to fedor yet. he has become a legend that everyone wants to see anyways, regardless of how much you dont like him, or how much of a non-credible fighter he is..he's in your mouth and you cant help but to taste him. randy couture more famous? maybe..but why arent you guys callin fora rematch with him and brock? see what i mean? the true fans of mma and the ufc fan folks distinguish themselves. take your time craft your messages but in the end, you want fedor in the ufc. oh and UFC fan...you totally made yourself look retarded, "he has fought nothing but cans, and has-beens, I want to see him fight a younger stronger, faster opponent" what is randy couture mir and herring? you sir, have failed miserably at soundin like you understand mma. your replies should be filed right next to freddie roach. stick to singin entrance music in your head while you drop macho man elbows off your dresser onto your wwf pillows.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:14
lol @ ufcfan. watch Fedors baddest man on the planet on youtube...Ur beloved UFC fighters all say he is the best and he is.regardless of who he has fought lately he is still undefeated.Brock wins a few matches and acts tough and every1 jumps on the bandwagon. There is absolutley no argument here, Dana White is a fcking slave driver!!!!!!!!!who would want to sign with him and make pocket change when Fedor he can fight once in Afflication and bascially make what he would in UFC in a year.Fedors got the freedom to go anywhere and do anything, Lesnar is just Whites pet bitch who white can use to argue against anyone who says there HW division is otherwise. As the smart editior of CP stated in his story "Looks like the ball’s in your court, DW. Do you make the man a better offer, or at least be a little nicer to him?" Hits the nail on the head.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:17
To answer your last question, Ben, Christ DOES love Barnett
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:46
When asked what is keeping him from signing with UFC, Fedor replied "it's all about the Roosevelts babay."
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:48
I believe UFC Fan was referring to Fedor when he said he fought cans. If I'm wrong my bad.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:49
This asshole will never join the UFC while Lesnar is there. Unacceptable terms? Haha. He was offered the best contract the UFC had ever offered. More than affliction, but this fuck wants stupid shit like to sign all the shitty comunist on his team and to build stadiums. A one fight contract? Seriously he knows the UFC aint going to go for that because it's stupid. Fedor isn't relevant until he joins the UFC and fights anyone who's actually any good. Instead he plays it safe and fights FORMER ufc champions haha. Fuck Fedor.
Wed, 07/15/09 - 11:52
Also not only was Fedor offered the highest base pay the UFC had ever offered but also ppv bonus. Which he would make a lot more money off, he makes a lot less in affliction but gets to beat on cans and keep his record intact. He'll porbabl be fighting Mauric Smith next, another FORMER ufc champion to say he's beat haha while he will never fight the actuall champ in the present. Fedor sucks.
Thu, 07/16/09 - 12:21
Cuntalope, when did you become DW right hand man and got to view the details of Fedor contracts. Lol and makes alot less in Afflication????ahahahahahahh what fcking MMA are u watching. Mate i got one comment for you "never go full retard"
Thu, 07/16/09 - 03:20
Yes 300 000 base pay and a tiny percentage of ppv that are just bombs. In the UFC ppv sales are like 50 times higher he'd be making alot more. Do the math retard.
Thu, 07/16/09 - 04:20
Well after reading what a lot of you r-tards have written, every heavyweight in the world of MMA should retire and thank the lord they can while Brock walks the planet. Maybe he and Mel Gibson can make Lethal weapon 8. You take 5 years off of Couture and I think he wins that fight with technique. It's all good though, when Brock gets his ass handed to him by some guy that is too small to handle him I will sit back lmao. I think i could like Brock but it's his demeanor and his fans that make me wanna see fedor break his spine. Oh and by the way all you Fedor haters, He is usually 1 or 2 on the pound 4 pound best list. Where is brock? Apparrently people who actually know something about this sport respect the man and his skills.
Thu, 07/16/09 - 05:26
i think that fedor might be past his prime. maybe barnett will beat him. brock could do it too i think. but no matter how those fights will turn out, to me fedor will always be one of the greatest. brock has a long way to go when he wants to be where fedor is today. he has to be dominant for several years like fedor was. many people here wrote that they think that brock would beat fedor. and if i had to put my money on one of the two i think id pick brock too. but even if he won, fedor would stay on top of my alltime powerranking. if brock went on to smash the competition for 3-4 years i might change my mind. another thing is that nobody should blame fedor for acting in his own interest. he doesn't have to prove himself and owes nothing to the ufc. it's not like he is some random fighter. he could stop fighting and be remembered as maybe the best ever. i give him a lot of credit for not doing that.
Thu, 07/16/09 - 05:42
what everyone seems to be forgetting is the ufc "champion clause." if fedor were to sign a 1 fight deal and defeat brock (armbar 2:37 r1) he would then become the hw champ and become property of the ufc until he lost the belt. as far as the one comment about fedor never facing anyone with lesnar's wrestling pedigree... remember how the two fights with mark coleman went?
Fri, 07/17/09 - 09:21
Fedor Fears Brock will defeat him and have his legacy tarnished(he may say he doesn't care about his legacy....but you better believe he does). And he has a right to fear him.....Brock is a real-life IVAN DRAGO. (which is kind of funny since Brock looks more russian than Fedor...lol)
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