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Fights That Shouldn’t Happen, Vol. XVII: Ken Shamrock-Royce Gracie III

(One of these two men is still telling this story.)

What do you do when you’re an over-the-hill fighter who has repeatedly refused to take the dignified route to retirement? Apparently you challenge another over-the-hill fighter who you faced a couple of times back when you were both still relevant to the sport. That’s the only possible explanation for why Ken Shamrock thinks it’s a good idea to call out Royce Gracie like it’s 1995 all over again:

The second time I beat him in every aspect of the fight; in fact his corner had to carry him out. Fans have been calling for a rematch ever since. After this particular fight Royce left the UFC. As a matter of fact I ran the entire Gracie family out of the UFC. His talk is cheap. Let’s settle it in the cage. I heard Royce agree to a rematch three times now, every time he has come up with a reason not to fight me. Royce and my brother Frank should get together and write a book about how to set up fights and not fight.

At least Shamrock’s smack-talking skills haven’t atrophied at the same rate as his physical ones. Where this statement goes from being the typical crazy Shamrock banter to being completely out of touch with reality is when Shamrock claims that “fans have been calling for a rematch ever since.”

Really? Fans want to see a rematch of the thirty-six minute stallfest that ended in a draw? What fans? Where do they live? Could they accurately be described as fully functioning adults?

Fightlinker claims to think it’s a good idea as long as they do it in Japan with extended rounds. If the fight does happen, it had better not be in a place with an athletic commission, and any time you admit that you could only put on a fight in a place where there is no official oversight, aren’t you basically admitting that it’s a fight that is not athletically meaningful?

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j. spos- February 17, 2009 at 6:14 pm
hey douchbag, i can tell u are in denial of the legend of gracie jui jitsu. all u couch critics are entitled to your opinion, but let me be the first to tell you your opinion sucks bin ladin dick!!!! in the superfight between gracie and shamrock all shamrock was trying to do was get a draw with a gracie. it's better than a loss. ken never tried to pass royce's guard and his punches were weak and a majority of them didn't land, and the ones that did land did little or no damage. the only punch that did damage was the punch shamrock landed before the clinch. which ken couldn't even capitalize on. and as far as rickson having a fake record is bullshit. rickson has all the proof he needs to back that up. his alleged loss to ron tripp in '86 is a loss in sambo. if u listen to the announcers when he enters the ring they say undefeated in vale tudo and jui jitsu! sambo has bullshit rules. so all u disrespectfull haters can kiss my hairy wop ass.
fornetti- August 30, 2008 at 4:06 pm
I do not believe this
BigOkie- June 25, 2008 at 9:02 am
gracies suck ass obviously has a problem with the Gracie's (probably tore into one of his favorite fighters once) but you have to respect what they've done for the sport. If you think Rickson is a bitch, then you obviosly haven't seen "Choke" to see what the old Vale Tudo matches were like in Tokyo back before the UFC and MMA as we know it today. Bare knuckles, head stomps, no weight divisions... rent it and let me know if you still think he's a bitch.

And yes, if someone is not competitive, there's nothing wrong with them continuing to fight but I don't necessarily want to watch it. I include, Ken Shamrock (who was once one of the best in the world), Tank, Royce, Dan Severn, Kimo (early UFC), etc. Yes, they can all still kick my ass, but I'm not going to see them beat up on each other for $44.95 on PPV.

Guys who got out pretty much right on time... Pat Miletich, Bas Ruten (who may be coming back?) and a few others that have gone into training the next generation. These guys are smart enough to take advantage of their names while they still have a name to bank on.

Just my opinion of course...
SirOcelot- June 25, 2008 at 5:50 am
Honestly I think Gracie would take the fight if they let him use his Gi, and allow kidney kicks again. Man they really have stripped jiu-jitsu.
d- June 25, 2008 at 2:33 am
Guy on the left is way better off - he owns some strip clubs in Austin.
WTF are you talking about Fightlinker...- June 25, 2008 at 12:02 am
Dream does a 10 minute first round and a 5 minute second round, but that doesn't add up to 15, like you said... June 24, 2008 at 11:40 pm
The only reason I'd want it in Japan is so it's not a 15 minute fight ... we saw how that worked for Gracie-Sakuraba 2.
gracies suck ass- June 24, 2008 at 7:16 pm
I say fake records cause they always say shit like "he's had 400 mixed martial arts bouts and he's undefeated" which is of course total shit cause they mostly just fought ghay challenge matches with total cans, and then when they face a real challenge they get smashed into oblivion, look at ricksons mma record, not one of them is top level and he hasn't had more than fifteen bouts that actually had WITNESSES. Dunno, I'll call bullshit on that.

@ shitwhistle, aight man u got me :P ur a real couch warrior haha, and shit you wanna know who really shouldn't be allowed in the cage? severn and that 63 year old motherfucker, can't member his name now, but shit those guys are relics at least ken can still get televised bouts haha.
Rich S.- June 24, 2008 at 6:16 pm
it seems to me like Shammy's just trying to fights that he KNOWS he can win now.. he knows that if the other guy has any kind of striking power.. or striking ability for that matter.. he will get KTFO'd.. so now he's going for guys that are way smaller and out of weight range [Royce]

Good Job, Ken! :)
Ryan B- June 24, 2008 at 5:34 pm
"Ken Shamrock isn't washed up, he's eeeeasily as fresh as us"

Matt Hughes & Tito Ortiz
shitwhistle- June 24, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Just because he wants to get in the cage doesn't mean someone should let him.

And, for the record, I'm an internet couch winner. (Seriously, I once won a couch on the internet.)
Zackary Adams- June 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm
I do not want to see this fight. Too little, too late. g.s.a., I'll give you your last comment, but seriously; Fake Records? C'mon,
gracies suck ass- June 24, 2008 at 5:05 pm
ken totally owned gracie in their superifght, and def won but if the the fight went to time it became a draw but ken fucked him up good and royce couldn't do anything the whole match as ken stood above him and punched him over and over. Royce is a lil bitch I'd love to see this again just to watch a gracie with a fictitious fight record get fucked again, to bad it isn't hickson the only other total faggot ass fake record bitch I wanna see die in the ring. Anyway, Ken by KO ken RULES, fuck y'all pussies least he still wants to get in the cage and isn't a total internet couch loser like all of us.
martymarta- June 24, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Belligerence has always been one of Shamrock's wonderful traits. But his dilusional fantacies about what is actually happening in the world of mma are starting to resemble the outrageous claims of Tito more and more...
shitwhistle- June 24, 2008 at 4:56 pm
I'd rather attend a church service with Matt Hughes....
JMas- June 24, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Is it just me or is Ken become more a more belligerent in his old age. And what the hell is he taking about he never beat Gracie, he is 0-1-1. Ken give it up, ur were a great fighter, its time to retire. Nobody want to see you talk shit then get ur ass beat again. Ken shamrock 20 years from now it goin to be in a retirement tring to fight everybody because he is have flash back of old UFC fights