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Frank Mir Admits He’s Not Really That Sorry For His Lesnar Comments, After All


(Photo courtesy of Fight Magazine)

If you thought Frank Mir‘s apology on UFC.com for his remarks about Brock Lesnar didn’t sound like it came entirely from a place of sorrow deep within his heart, congratulations, you’re a tough one to fool.  I spoke with Mir yesterday for this SI.com column and he confirmed that, even after he was called in to the UFC offices and chided for the comment, he still didn’t really understand what the big deal was:

"When I got called in and they told me, ‘Listen man, this is an issue,’ I kind of had a smirk on my face the whole time," says Mir, who was quoted in a public apology for the remark on the UFC’s Web site earlier this week. "I was like, you’re kidding, right? This is a joke, right? I’ve heard people say that this is to the death. I’ve heard people say about an opponent, ‘I’m going to kill him.’ I heard Brock say he was going to put his hand up my rear end to pull out a horseshoe. I didn’t hear anyone get too upset about that."


Mir said he genuinely tried to understand what people were so upset about, and even took to the internet to try and find out what fans were saying.  Still, he remains unconvinced that it was really such a big deal:

"No one’s been able to explain it to me yet," Mir says. "I thought we understood that what we say on camera is part of the entertainment aspect of our sport and we kind of get a little artistic license. It’s not like I said this to my neighbor, that if his dog shows up in my yard one more time I’m going to kill him. That would be bad. That’s a problem. I didn’t understand it, but hey, it came my way, I said it, and I can’t cry about it now. I’ve just got to deal with it, I guess."

This whole situation was blown even more out of proportion when a website quoted Shane Carwin as saying that anyone who would make a comment like Mir’s must be "either a terrible person or mentally unfit to fight," which prompted Carwin to clarify the comment on his own website and take a shot at the media in general (but we’re still cool, right Shane? please God, we can’t take another beef with "Hulk Hands").

As if that wasn’t enough fuel thrown on the fire, Lesnar’s camp reportedly fired back at Mir, threatening that he "may never be able to fight again after the third fight is over."

So, to recap what we’ve learned:

- Threatening a very specific type of death will get you in trouble with the UFC.

- Threatening general "murder" or simply saying something to the effect of ‘I’m going to kill that guy,’ is perfectly fine.

- Threatening to render your opponent incapable of competing ever again, that’s also cool.

- Don’t even let Shane Carwin think you’re taking his quotes out of context, or there’ll be hell to pay.

Yeah, that about sums it up…for now.

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bobroode- November 9, 2011 at 5:56 am
Mir is a joke, one cheap heel hook and he thinks he is a great fighter. He gets tossed around by all the real heavyweights.
check out desks for bedrooms
KingAtRock- March 5, 2010 at 3:47 am
Like Brock was sorry about his antics before and after his fights. Guess thats where the UFC is heading, keep giving us the finger brock you're p4p #1!!!
agentsmith- February 26, 2010 at 7:10 am
"When I got called in and they told me, 'Listen man, this is an issue,' I kind of had a smirk on my face the whole time,"

I guess they must have snapped that photo at the same time. What a coincidence.
Terminator- February 26, 2010 at 6:22 am
LOL @ the essays you guys call comments.


NOBODY reads that shit.
nuthugger- February 26, 2010 at 2:44 am
When BJ said 'to the death' against GSP, it sounded like was referring to the level of intensity he was going to bring, that he would die trying to win. When MIR says 'first octagon-related death', the needle skips off the vinyl. That's like a football player saying he's purposfully heading out to break the oppostions' leg. You can't say that shit! Yes it's fighting, yes they hate eachother, but goddamn this sport will never get anywhere past human cockfighting when the participants are categorically stating lethal intentions against eachother.
mt59801- February 26, 2010 at 1:15 am
all fighter interviews are retarded in the first place. I like watching but seriously I think everyone's strategy is to do more damage than the other guy and remain conscious. I don't need a re-cap of that 10x a week. I don't what the UFC wants from their fighters, if Mir would've said "I'd like to buy him dinner and make sweet sweet love to him down by the river in the moonlight" he would've had to retract that too. To me it's just DW trying to get some press before a strikeforce event.
ghostboner- February 26, 2010 at 12:32 am
@ ceceil pupls - the Mir - Lesnar fight will happen for sure. too much money in that one for Dana to pass it up. And yes, you fuckers really are long winded AND hateful tonight. Didn't realize this was such a polarizing issue. Maybe Mir should come out in favor of govt healthcare...
shawn1589- February 25, 2010 at 11:00 pm
YEP
Richard Fitzentite- February 25, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Mir was smirking the whole time? Shocking.
When hasn't Mir been smirking?
cecils_pupils- February 25, 2010 at 9:46 pm
@Medium Rare regarding you post "Welcome to the world of double-standards"... I say well done. Regarding your post/roast of fightfan I would say that's burnt.

Get it Medium Rare? well done?... that's burnt?....... oh nevermind.
rlh61- February 25, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Is it me or does MediumRare have a touch of anarchy in him?


All kidding aside, I do get your point, but the statement "notoriety and prominence, and hence bigger paychecks?", while very true, bothers me. I completely agree that that is what it comes down to in dollars and cents, but the 'anti-boxing' badge of honor that MMA carries goes away if this becomes commonplace. When MMA gets to the point that the shit talking, the flashy entrances, and the soap opra story lines are what it takes to make money, it's lost it's purity. I know, way too idealistic...but true none the less.
Your Dumb- February 25, 2010 at 8:17 pm
@ DazedNConfused

"And Carwin seems like the kind of guy that when you pulled out a joint at a party he would go on with a 20minute talk about how it's bad for you, ruining your high and pissing everyone off."

You have to be correct, because I've just shit my pants.
Your Dumb- February 25, 2010 at 8:07 pm
This whole quote thing was a missed opportunity for Tito Ortiz. Now Frank Mir will get the credit for helping all other MMA fighters in the business by creating a threshold on acceptable trash talk.

Right now that it's the hot topic, Mir should go ahead and say he wishes Brock would die of cancer and all his children would get AIDS.

You know, just to see if that's cool.
AndyInflammatory- February 25, 2010 at 7:38 pm
Brock should get that tattoo touched-up
LetMeStickItInYourRua- February 25, 2010 at 7:06 pm
I get it! I really do. Lesnar came on the scene with natural ability and the pure will to go the extra mile in training and in the cage. Although he did it with about as much class as cutting a loud fart in church. Which makes him a huge dick. Lesnar came from a Midwestern amateur wrestling background which is probably what made him a mouthy dick.

Mir talking shit after getting his ass kicked reminds me of that black dude on the Oakland bus talking shit after Epic Beard Man tromped him. Lesnar v.s. Mir III? BRING DA AMBERLAMPS!!!
McBastard- February 25, 2010 at 6:54 pm
When Steve Cantwell dislocated Al-Hassan's elbow, Mir criticized Cantwell's postfight comments, stating that they reinforced the public perception of MMA fighters as barbarians. I'd say that makes Mir a hypocrite, in addition to being an asshole.
PurplePickle- February 25, 2010 at 6:52 pm
You fuckers sure are long winded tonight.
MediumRare- February 25, 2010 at 6:47 pm
@ fightfan

Is it more sad that Mir has found his golden ticket to greater notoriety and prominence in the UFC or is it more sad that you can't seem to grasp that Mir is talking shit in order to gain notoriety and prominence, and hence bigger paychecks?

Is it more sad that you are a raging fucktard with a sub-par IQ or that my hemorrhoids have flared up with avengence yet again?

Is it more sad that you think that reality TV is real or that reality TV isn't actualy reality?

Is it more sad that you think you live in a democracy or that you actually scamper out to vote like a weak little lemming every time the smiling idiots on TV tell you it's time to vote?

Is it more sad that you are a pathetic, impotent sparrow or that I don't have enough munitions to take over the world?
He who laughs and runs away...- February 25, 2010 at 6:37 pm
Carwin says he only likes to give written interviews. OF COURSE HE DOES!!! Otherwise nobody would ever understand what he says because he's constantly talking out of his pompous, self righteous ass.
MediumRare- February 25, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Welcome to the world of double-standards and over-sensitive fuckweeds.

Planet Earth can be a real irritating place (unless of course you're a bitter adolescent or raging alcoholic like myself - in which case you'll fit in just fine).

Is it just me or is Carwin overplaying this good-guy superhero routine? "Terrible person or mentally unfit to fight..." Really?

Gimme a fuckin' break. You're never mentally unfit to fight. The most mentally retarded among us are probably the MOST fit to fight.

Someone running their mouth doesn't make them a terrible person. Realizing you're in the entertainment business and doing your best to get your slice of the attention pie doesn't make you a terrible person.

Denying reality and failing to recognize the inherent fallibility of your pathetic and morally compromised fellow man is terrible. Threatening to kill a man - that's just making ends meet on Planet Earth.
fightfan- February 25, 2010 at 6:10 pm
The funniest part is Mir STILL cant Lesnar out of his head. That is so sad. He is making a mockery of his opponents, like Carwin and Kongo..by spewing shit about Lesnar EVERY time he talks.

Just sad.
Boss Rutten- February 25, 2010 at 6:08 pm

You really dug yourself a hole Mir, because Lesnar wont forget these comments when it comes time to fight, and I guarantee that hes PISSED.

What we will be dealing with here is a new type of Lesnar which doesnt feel remorse, one which cant discern its friends from its enemies, one that cannot be reasoned with.

Berserker mode Lesnar isnt just leaving the octagon with Mir's dignity this time, but his soul as well
Harry Nips- February 25, 2010 at 6:08 pm
@ LetMeStickItInY... "Mir should have to fight Couture or someone worth a shit. He beat Nog but who hasn't these days."
There's a couple things wrong w/ this statement: (a) Couture lost to Nog a few months ago. (b) Couture dropped to 205 after that fight.
Not tryin to be a dick, just stating the facts.
BILL_BRASKY- February 25, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Look out, Mir. Lesnar might rip that dick out of his chest and make YOU the first octagon related death.
LetMeStickItInYourRua- February 25, 2010 at 5:36 pm
I'm from South Dakota you dumb shit! He is huuuuge here. And a lot of my coaches wrestled him in high school and even some in middle school and they said he was huge back then. I'll admit that he's a big dumb redneck but he busts his ass in the gym and happens to be the "Jersey Shore"esque redneck who grabs way too much about himself but has every reason to. I kind of want him to lose a few just so people will shut up. No bitching about getting a shot so soon when Silva got one after 1 fight. If Lesnar keeps advancing then he'll do great. If he turns into Coleman or Randleman or one of the many dinosaurs of the past who never up'd their game then he'll be the next Tank Abott. I'm not afraid to admit that Lesnar can be beat. I'm just thinks it's dumb to go HE IS TEH GAYZ or HE DOES STERIOOIDDDS. Just because he is a big dude.
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