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Frank Shamrock: World’s Most Self-Absorbed Man?

(One of those days where it really sucks to have just one waist.)

Frank Shamrock has yet to encounter a situation that is not, at its core, about Frank Shamrock. It just hasn’t happened. It probably never will happen. The main event at EliteXC: Heat last Saturday night is a great example. You remember that one, right?

Kimbo Slice was set to face Ken Shamrock, but instead squared off against (and was quickly defeated by) Seth Petruzelli. You might have seen it. What you probably didn’t know at the time was that this situation was all about Frank Shamrock. He was the grown man with braces calling the fight for CBS. But really, he should have been in there fighting. If he had, MMA history could have been altered. At least, that’s the story he told Sherdog:

“I think it was a mistake to not let me fight [Kimbo Slice],” said Shamrock, who claims he offered to step in to face the notorious streetfighter.


“When I realized we would have to cancel the show, I said, ‘Look, I’ll fight the guy. You know, it’s a great story — little brother steps into the spot, comes out of the booth. It’s very compelling, but we need a fight to happen that’s compelling,’” Frank said. “That went around for hours. Then I put my shirt on and went to work. No one committed to it, so I just kept talking.”

Of course you did, Frank. Because that’s what you do. A lot of talking, and occasionally some fighting.

Look, I’m not saying it wouldn’t have been awesome to see Frank fill in for his older brother. But it wasn’t at all feasible. He wasn’t licensed to take that fight. There was no way the commission would allow a middleweight commentator with no medicals and no clearance to fight to jump in there two hours beforehand, and he knew it. This isn’t Japan, for Pete’s sake.

But that is only a glimpse into the world of Frank Shamrock. The real tragedy last Saturday night, he says, was that it ruined all his hard work in putting together a brother-versus-brother bout:

“The worst thing that could have ever happened was [for] Ken not get in the ring,” Frank said. “Two and a half years for me, I’ve been working on this once-in-a-lifetime event. If it doesn’t happen, it’ll be terrible for everybody, I think.”

Really? You think it will be terrible for everyone if we never see you face your over-the-hill brother? Because I’m not so sure.

For a guy who seemed so talented, who had such great potential, Frank Shamrock’s accomplishments have sure fallen short of his claims to greatness in recent years. His 1999 bout with Tito Ortiz was an instant classic, but instead of building on that he chose to walk away from the sport for a few years. When he came back he had a couple of bouts that weren’t entirely competitive, got himself disqualified for illegal knees against his Renzo Gracie and then blamed the Brazilian for it while avoiding a rematch. He beat a very beatable Phil Baroni and then got kicked from one side of the cage to the other by Cung Le.

And now, for some strange reason, he thinks the fight we’re all dying to see is Frank vs. Ken? Maybe it’s just me, but I think I can live without that one.

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Steve W- October 12, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Jarekov you're a retarded ass clown. Frank Shamrock is definitely a legit fighter, in his prime or not and Elite XC has plenty of other legit fighters as well they just don't have enough to showcase them every month or even every couple months....look at its champions for christ sake! Ok so they're not UFC champions, but that doesn't mean they suck.

If you're gonna criticize all these "shitty upstart companies" criticize them for doing shitty upstart type things, don't talk trash about their fighters...these guys are just trying to earn a living doing what they do best and most of them are damn fine mixed martial artists that 9 times out of 10 deserve better competition than what they find, not to mention better fans than most of the schmucks online whining about something they couldn't do themselves.
Jarekov- October 11, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Frank Shamrock is not a legit fighter and neither is anyone in Elite XC.... Frank has won one fight against a opponent who wasnt a joke good for him. The Elite XC is a fucking joke and it needs to stop going on the air because its actually being watched by people who are too poor to order the UFC, and its giving people the wrong impression as to what MMA is all about. Seriously all these shitty upstart companies are going to do to MMA what has happened to boxing, fighters will get pampered like kimbo until their heads are up their asses and you wont see good fights every event, which is something the UFC has been doing since its early days and continues to do every month.
franksforearm- October 11, 2008 at 7:08 am
what a dildo frank is.
Anonymous- October 10, 2008 at 6:47 pm
if ken had won it would've set up frank vs ken with claims of "ken's back", if kimbo had won it'd set us frank vs ken as a preliminary to frank vs kimbo and hype that kimbos the real was win, win for elite xc and it WAS all centred around frank as he clearly was the only decent fighter out of the 3, i think elite realised that kimbo was a bum and they could only make money out of him 4 so long.

frank vs ken has been hyped 4 soo long but the fact is ken is just 2shit2 win a fight against anyone now.
gino quilico- October 10, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Its pretty funny that everyone so far disagrees with the post.
Frank/Cung was a good fight and most people would want to see Frank fight because he is entertaining in the ring and afterwards in interviews and even the haters would watch to see his ego knocked around.

Would I pay to see Shamrock/Shamrock? No.
Would I watch it if it was elsewhere on a card? Yes.
its not of interest to be a headliner but it would be better than watching retards on TUF. October 10, 2008 at 5:27 pm
I'm sure EliteXC is wishing they would have given Frank the shot instead of Seth Petruzelli. If he lost to Frank he'd have lost to a seasoned,experienced fighter and not some nobody. Petruzelli will probably lose his next fight be almost as big a disappointment as Kimbo..if that is possible.
hooligun- October 10, 2008 at 4:22 pm
I can still remember the pure joy I felt watching Frank dismantle Tito all those years ago. And yes, the cung Le fight was close. Till his arm snapped!
Mikey Gilz- October 10, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Is anyone here going to claim that EliteXC is somehow above putting that fight together on 2 hours notice? i don't think so.

Frank Shamrock is not a top ten fighter, but he's pretty damn good. He would have been hitting Kimbo left and right for 3 rounds, making sure not to finish him. Taunting him endlessly and then eventually get hit once and the ref stops the fight because he looked "A bit wobbly"
Jared DeDoucheshaw- October 10, 2008 at 10:34 am
I would have to agree with Frank on this one. Getting beat by Frank would have been better than getting beat by a nasty Nancy boy for Kimbo. However, this is a great opportunity for a fight against Kimbo and Gold Dust (WWE wrestler). That would be a doozy!!!!!!
Kim Couture is a cunt- October 10, 2008 at 5:23 am
Impossible to hate Frank, fuckin guy is hilarious and a legend. What a beaut.
Apexified- October 9, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Was I the only one who thought the fight against Cung Le wasn't all that one sided and actually pretty good? Maybe... I think Frank is still a good fighter and one of handful of them that have any kind of personality inside and outside the cage.

But he does look like a douche reading from a teleprompter with those braces on.
Anonymous- October 9, 2008 at 9:47 pm
I agree with Koeikan. Frank would have become a superstar. Him jumping into the ring to squash Kimbo would have been a story every mainstream news org would have picked up.
edhead- October 9, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Elite XC's new plan..

Frank Sharock vs Kimbo

Kimbo gets cut...Ken Shamrock saves the day by fighting his brother

Elite XC slips Ken Shamrock a "No Heart Attack" bonus

Mirror on the ceiling so that Frank can see himself fucking his brother up October 9, 2008 at 9:43 pm
I'm sure Frank "The Legend" Shamrock would have absolutely relished fighting Kimbo. Frank would have embarassed Kimbo a hell of a lot worse than Seth did, and would have done a great time delivering one-liners to the MMA press constantly afterwards.

In any case, Frank seems desperate to get the Shamrock vs. Shamrock fight off the ground before Ken is too old/dead to pull it off. I imagine Frank has done well for himself financially but he must want that big payday, even if it means murdering his brother.
Koeikan- October 9, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Well, he's least about the Kimbo fight.

It would have made a lot more sense for them to put him up against another MMA name. What happened was the absolute worst possible scenario for Kimbo. He not only lost to a nobody at LHW, but he also lost in a way that questions his biggest percieved strength: chin and stand up.

If he lost to Frank, there were a million ways to spin it and move forward...

If Frank wins and you can justify the loss much more easily, you can move forward with a rematch, you can put on a Shamrock vs Shamrock fight, or a Shamrock vs Ortiz rematch.

So yeah, Frank may be all about Frank, but he's right in my opinion.