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Frank Shamrock’s Decision to Retire Was Greatly Influenced by His Loss to Nick Diaz, Which Incidentally Wasn’t His Fault


(‘I’m gonna retire you, old man.’ Who knew Nick Diaz was psychic?)

Frank Shamrock spoke with Ben Fowlkes over the weekend about his announcement during Saturday night’s Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Werdum broadcast that he would be hanging up his four ounce gloves permanently and according to the now former fighter, his fight with Nick Diaz a year ago this past April had a major influence on his decision.

"It was just my body and the time. I put the machine back in the shop and ramped it up and it just didn’t perform. The last time in my fight with Nick – it used to be that it didn’t matter how hurt I was going into a fight, I always performed," Shamrock told Fowlkes. "When I fought Nick I didn’t perform. I had injuries that wouldn’t allow me to play my game and to entertain. So I knew when I tried to put my body to work again, it’s done. The machine’s down. I just can’t race it any more."


Wow. Frank Shamrock blaming injuries on a loss? Who could have seen this coming. He couldn’t just say Nick was the better fighter that night and leave it at that? No. Frank had to sully his retirement by making excuses for his performance, or lack thereof that fight to an injury that until now had not been mentioned.

That’s like calling out a handful of fighters and then retiring before you have a chance to back up your claims that you would destroy them all…*cough* Jake Shields…*cough*…Ken Shamrock.

The question I have is, why would you fight with an injury that sounds as serious as the one "The Legend" had?

I’m not a doctor, but if his purported injury was legit, breathing likely would have been painful.

"I got hurt pretty good a couple weeks into training for the Nick fight. It was a very odd injury in my abdominal region that felt like muscle tearing and just weirdness, and it was because my cervical vertebrae were compressed. That compression caused tension and the tension cause my muscles to kind of tear out. It’s just, my whole body kind of reached a point last year, or maybe the tail end of the year before, where it was just like, hey, we’re kind of done. I don’t know quite how to explain it."

Strange, considering he told MMAJunkie last May that he lost because of a rib injury.

"The rib messed me up pretty good. I couldn’t grapple or do much of anything for a couple of weeks. But I went in there believing 100 percent that I could beat Nick Diaz. Regardless of if I had one leg or not, I stepped in there, I picked up the sword, and I believed the sword would strike him down. It didn’t. I just didn’t feel it that night."

Luckily for fans of Shamrock’s commentary, Frank will now be making a full-time commitment to his broadcasting career and says he may help out with Strikeforce’s marketing, pointing out that he was never really a fighter.

"Well, I don’t think I was ever a fighter. I think I was an athlete and a martial artist, and I just happened to be fighting. My art will always continue on, but as an athlete, the machine is done. I can’t keep tying the two together. To me, it makes no sense to go on. I can’t be my best, so I’m doing a disservice to my art. That’s against what I believe in."


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Charming Charlie- June 29, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Hey, that was so weird, I read a quote in an article being used to support a conclusion, and took away a much different interpretation than the one the author was going off-the-handle about. Then as I continued reading the author didn't seem to relent with his over-the-top criticism, so much that it made me question whether he was just spouting an opinion conceived in the past rather than attempting to give new insight into current events. In other words, the author didn't appear to have much rational thought going on, but rather an agenda against people he hates. I read along, and despite not giving a shit about Frank Shamrock or valuing his contributions to MMA, Strikeforce, or commentary, at some point thought "fuck you author" because being an unfair prick and picking quotes to misunderstand and slander people is wrong. Lo and behold, it's a post by the new guy!

Shamrock does not say injuries caused his loss. He was saying his body was done. He is not making an excuse, he is a athlete and knows that the body is part of the equation in a competition. It _is_ permissible to talk about your body and it's condition when explaining why you retired from a combat sport. Suggesting otherwise, as this article does, is as handicapped a notion as Mike Russell.
Cheesburger Walrus- June 29, 2010 at 6:10 am
Shamrock is such a douche.
Zee German- June 29, 2010 at 2:28 am
@HeroCasey and FBF,
thanks for pointing this out. Frank was a pioneer and one of the first cerebral fighters who put together creative training techniques, strategy and an all around complete fighting approach.
He helped to elevate the sport.
No need to bash the man when he realizes he can't compete at the higher level anymore.
He might be a tool sometimes but I will always respect him for bringing the sport along.
Almost North- June 28, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Tone Def would like to know whether these wiggers are going to fight or fuck.
The_Iron_Fish- June 28, 2010 at 11:06 pm
Shouldnt it be "Frank Shamrock blaming a loss on injuries?" not the other way round
bierergoggles- June 28, 2010 at 9:54 pm
From recent events moving backwards... 1) He decides to retire... 2)He gets braces... 3)He thinks he is somehow relevant and should keep fighting. Is it just me or does he seem to be regressing... as if his brain is somehow going backwards? Its like watching Benjamin Button all over again.
fatbellyfrank- June 28, 2010 at 8:06 pm
And yeah, I know I posted a WTF post when his retirement stuff took about 15 minutes of broadcast on Sunday, but that was because I paid for fights, not a tribute show.
fatbellyfrank- June 28, 2010 at 8:04 pm
@ CCman and HeroCasey, good point gentlemen, we can give Randy, Chuck, Fedor etc the respect that they deserve when they are mentioned, why not the Shamrock boys?I know Ken has done some silly things lately that make it easy to hang shit on him, and Frank's efforts on the mic aren't everyones cup of brew, but if your talking pioneers who pretty much gave their all to the sport, then both Shamrock's fit the bill and should be acknowledged for their efforts by the MMA community. I think the following quote from Frank sums him up nicely
"Well, I don't think I was ever a fighter. I think I was an athlete and a martial artist, and I just happened to be fighting. My art will always continue on, but as an athlete, the machine is done. I can't keep tying the two together. To me, it makes no sense to go on. I can't be my best, so I'm doing a disservice to my art. That's against what I believe in." To me, thats a pretty good attitude and once again his respect for the sport shines through.

OK serious shit done with, I'm going back to vain attempts to post funny comments
HeroCasey- June 28, 2010 at 6:16 pm
First of all, I'd like to say "fuck you". The writing on this site has drastically diminished. It use to be very comical with a bit of snarkyness, and I even let the previous Frank Shamrock bashing go in the last article related to him. Well, I find this reprehensible.

I realize I'm taking this a bit seriously, and a bit far but the next time you revolutionize a sport, call me. Frank Shamrock not only was the prototype for fighters today, he was the first to pioneer training techniques that didn't exist outside of doing roadwork and lifting weights.

In addition, to answer your question about why Frank would fight injured, allow me to enlighten you. Strikeforce is the house that Frank Shamrock built. Before Strikeforce had Fedor. Before they had Dan Henderson, and before they had a CBS slot, they had Frank Shamrock in San Jose, California.

Frank fought injured multiple times because he was building a company. He fought injured multiple times because he was fighting in his hometown. And lets not play, he fought injured multiple times because he is tied up with Strikeforce.

I realize this is a fanboy post, and I don't think Frank Shamrock is the greatest fighter ever, but he contributed a ton to this sport.



axhed- June 28, 2010 at 5:58 pm
when he mentions his art is he talking about his sparkly grille?
nickyroose- June 28, 2010 at 5:35 pm
I think the humor went from funny and good-matured to being mean spirited. Also the anti on this site has gone way up. It was never super balanced but at least it was not obviously pro anything non UFC. That said it is still my favorite. I went to Ben-1's website and it was too Yahoo sports.
ccman- June 28, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Actually correction.... I'm waiting to see mags hendricks as the author..... fluff pieces
ccman- June 28, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I have honestly not once commented on the writing on this site post ben 2 leaving... that said...

1. Ken IS a legend and was the first complete fighter and prototype for all current fighters.

2. We have gone pro-fanboy, anti ufc, school girl crush on fedor, cyborg, overeem in articles. The actual humor died and it has gotten tilted. Dunno what happened to ben 1 but even his tone is gone.

3. A rin injury is abdominal. Take a fucking anatomy class.

4. This was the most honest response I have read. He said in his youth the injuries could be overcome... age beat him. Every mma fighter says they fought injured, liars like tito, who you now give sick coverage, pretend it was the injury not age that held him back.

Can we quit the new spin and be funny or honest in the coverage again? Starting to feel BE round here
Harry Sack- June 28, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Frank cut off his left nut talking out his ass with those teef - tension from compressed vertebrae or amnessia from the ass whuppin Nick bum-rushed him with?
Omelette Platter- June 28, 2010 at 4:29 pm
funny. i just rewatched that fight earlier today, and in the post-fight interview with gus frank was all about how injuries didn't matter, nick was the better man that night, he got beat up, etc. i like how he waited over a year to change his story.

and no matter what anyone says about nick, any man who can shin-choke a world champion after burnin' down a philly backstage is a man to be respected.
Morningwood- June 28, 2010 at 3:35 pm
and why IS Diaz's mouth open? You guys are right I think they wanted to kiss.
Morningwood- June 28, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Both Diaz's are clowns, and are bad for the progression of MMA.
fatbellyfrank- June 28, 2010 at 2:25 pm
And is it just me, or does anyone else thinks its a good thing to hear a fighter acknowledge that the bodie's not up to it anymore, so I'm finished, I'm no Shamrock fan but a few guys could take this leaf outa his book. ( And yes, I am looking at you Chuck Liddell)
fatbellyfrank- June 28, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Nick Diaz reminds me of the neighborhood dealer, you keep on friendly terms cause you know he's always got weed, but theres that little something in the back of yer mind that says tread careful, this guy could go off at any moment
MediumRare- June 28, 2010 at 1:50 pm
@ knucklesamitch

No, Nick Diaz reminds me of the guys I would hang out with just 'cause they would start shit and liven up an otherwise dull evening.
Crusader86- June 28, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Thank god. I fucking hate that guy.
jgrant- June 28, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Can Diaz enter a debate with him and retire Shammy from talking as well? That'd probably make him my favorite person of all time. I'd roll his joints every day (I imagine that's like 50 a day) for the rest of his life if he could do that.
Nealio- June 28, 2010 at 1:09 pm
@knucklesamitch: if I had any friends that reminded me of either of the Diaz brothers I'd move out of that trailer park, FAST
meanfinger- June 28, 2010 at 1:05 pm
then put the joint out on your face..
Onan- June 28, 2010 at 12:57 pm
No he reminds you of that friend you have who, even though you are friends, you are always on the verge of just smacking him in the face but you don't because you know he would beat the snot out of you and embarrass you in front of the rest of your friends.
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