(Is there any situation not improved by sound effects from Super Mario Bros.? Props: MMA Scraps.)
Freddie Roach has figured out what went wrong for Andrei Arlovski on Saturday night. It’s simple really. Fighting the world’s best heavyweight proved too easy. This bored Andrei, prompting him to try the flying knee that he was not awake long enough to finish:
"He made a young man’s mistake," Roach told MMAInsider backstage. "It was too easy for him. He was winning the fight handily I thought, controlling the fight like we planned. He got a little cocky, and he tried the flying knee from too far away, no setup, and he paid for it. … But Fedor swings hard, that’s his thing. He probably had his eyes closed, but he just got lucky, I think. If we had followed a more disciplined fight, and kept to the game plan, I think it was going to be easy."
I agree with Roach on one point: Arlovski did make a mistake. As for the rest of his explanation, it’s just more evidence that Roach doesn’t understand the differences between MMA and boxing. In the boxing world, a man who wins via one-punch knockout after landing fewer punches than his opponent until that point is almost always the beneficiary of a lucky punch. Not so in MMA, especially when that man is Fedor.
You can say he got lucky. You can accuse him of closing his eyes and hoping for the best. But you can’t explain away his record. Arlovski may have helped him out with that mental error, but a right hand like Fedor’s sure improves a man’s luck considerably.
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Comments
Mon, 01/26/09 - 10:45
Ben when are you going to begin Exclusive interviews with the fans? I want to weigh in on this fight and make a few points that obviously only I saw. Like Fedors demeanor going back into the ropes, hand positioning, planting the feet, and throwing 2, not just 1, overhand murderballs. The only reason the second didn't land is because Arlovski was sailing away.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 10:50
I think someone earlier said that Arlovski's chin had no impact on the outcome of the fight at all: I believe the guy said "Fedor would have dropped Sasquatch with that punch.." LOL!! Question someone's chin when they get hit with a punch from a guy falling backwards, not when Fedor times a flying knee and winds up and connects the way he did.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 10:56
I don't see how Fedor was ever in danger in this fight. People all over the forums are saying how AA was dominating, as if he was beating Fedor like a drum. Fedor was hit 5, maybe 6 times in the fight, all of which did little to no damage. Fedor was way more loopy with his punches, and AA was indeed precise, but I saw nothing that made me think that Fedor didn't have things under control. We discuss this thing as if AA won it, and Fedor needs to prove himself more. AA fucking lost, Roach. And he will probably never get a chance to fight Fedor again. Bring on Barnett and let's see a real MMA fight
Mon, 01/26/09 - 10:58
Too me it looked like he was straight up baiting AA towards the end as Fedor kept backing his way up getting closer to the ropes.... I've also read some interviews on his training for this fight and he worked on alot of stuff for coming off the ropes.. AA likes to finish fights with that flying knee when someone rebounds off the ropes/cage...look at the ben rothwell fight. He played into FEDORS game and lost! Roach is a douche bag to be talking shit like this... FEDOR is the shit... stop making excuses ROACH.... Anyone else find it ironic this little fucker's name is ROACH? hahaha
Mon, 01/26/09 - 10:58
It looked to me that Fedor was laying back trying to draw AA in for just such a counter punch. If you watch the fight he was never really in trouble he seemed to keep going back, waiting to strike.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 10:59
Man Freddie Roach 4 words from the bottom of my heart: Shut the fuck up. Your more crooked than Micheal J. Fox's signature.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:01
Fedor doesn't close his eyes, he just a thin, flesh-colored membrane that rolls down as he strikes to protect his eyes from flying chunks of teeth and bloody beard folicles. Much like a shark.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:05
Exactly what I said that little Roach was gonna say. But you know what? that's okay because if nothing else he is a great boxing coach and if we take what we can and apply it, then aren't we all better for it. I don't like everything he has to say, but I think in this situation there is more baby than bath water.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:07
Absolute pussy move. Roach needs to let his fighter take his licks like a man. To come behind your fighter and make excuses for him shows a total lack of class. Even if what Roach is saying were undeniable fact (it's arguable at best, and totally wrong at worst) it's still a pussy move to voice it. A real man shakes the dust off and says "I will do better next time." A wannabe says, "I was winning, up until I lost."
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:08
haha that last comment was good. in fedors own words “ “As far as any punches that Andrei landed, I think all of them were just glancing blows and thy really didn’t hit me on the button and I didn’t feel them too much,” said Emelianenko through interpreter Steven Bash. Just based on feeling myself in the ring, I felt it was an even fight up to the point when I knocked him out, When he began his attack, he would open up a little bit. I had a feeling that he was going to make a mistake and I was just waiting to capitalize.”
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:10
freddie has a point, he's just not making it very well. arlovski was winning the round, that much we can all agree on. if only he paced himself properly, kept throwing solid combos instead of stupid flying knees...who knows what would have happened. it always bothers me when people call bullshit on "lucky punches" (the argument could be made that ALL punches are lucky). and how come people never call submissions LUCKY? fedor won with a great punch. the scary thing is that it looked so effortless. the man is a beast...how anyone can dispute this is beyond me.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:12
Arlovski did make a mistake. BUT, if Fedor's punch had missed, or even been slightly off-target, then Fedor might have gotten caught by the knee. Watch where Fedor's head was when he touched Andre's chin. That could have gone the other way, if Fedor wasn't so damned deadly accurate/powerful/Fedor-like.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:20
"But Fedor swings hard, that's his thing. He probably had his eyes closed, but he just got lucky, I think." Oh...really. Well, Mr. Roach, you think ... W...R...O...N...G! There is one camera angle that they showed from behind Arlovski's back. Fedor took the kick, created distance, waited for Arlovski to come after him and then BOOM!...punch to the head. And you know what else the angle shows? Fedor's eyes WIDE OPEN waiting for Arlovski to come and get him. Not only did Arlovski make a mistake, but Fedor clearly baited AA into the knockout. this is exactly what fedor was looking for. That wasn't luck Mr. Roach, that was skill. ...and the incredible "win" power of the Fedor Technicolor Dream Sweater. BTW, I agree that Arlovski was winning the fight up until he got his head bashed. Also, it's true, EVERYTHING is funnier with Super Mario sounds. ...I watched that 12 times...just one more...yup, it's still funny!
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:26
AA was bored. Once again Freddy Roach proves he has the brain of a roach. I will admit that I was leaning toward Arlovski to take this one as I don't have alot of background knowledge on Fedor but to call that punch lucky is obviously the ramblings of a delusional idiot. Hey Freddy, smoke another big fattie and go back to sleep you fucking moron
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:31
@AB damn you
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:36
R u freakin kidding me... Barnett is goin 2 get his ass kicked...its not even going to be a fight!
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:39
Fedor did exactly what he wanted to do, capitolize on the mistakes of AA. He said he would do this in the pre fight interviews.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:40
when are people going to realize that Fedor is a Tactician and essentially waits for his opponent to make a mistake and then capitalizes on it? Freddie Roach is right, to an extent. AA was not patient and made a young man mistake, Fedor saw the opening and made him eat canvas.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:50
Roach is a JOKE! This ain't boxing!! Your boy got is ass smoked! Saying Fedor had his eyes closed.... C'mon... What are you in the 8th grade! I think AA and Roach just tasted Fedor's pee pee!
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:54
this is a little off topic but what was the song Fedor used as an entrance this weekend was it another ERA piece?
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:57
if u watch Arlovski coming towards Fedor, his hands are lower, Fedor probably knew to strike hard and fast and get a good shot in by taking advantage of that moment, if Arlovski didnt have his hands that low as he was approachin Fedor, Fedor prob would have never went in like that.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:57
The show was ok, and the fights were good, but good god who is in charge of announcer/interviewer auditions? Tito mangled just about everything he tried to say, but I can get over that. The two deushbags though.. mr. mafia and mr. throat cancer.. good god. Those 2 really took away from the show. If someone had put a bullet in both of those brains Saturday morning it would have been the best thing to ever happen to affliction. If any of you have this event on dvr or tvo... Look for the part where those 2 interview freddie roach about the fight and roach says that after AA beats fedor he will be competing for a boxing world champinionship. Right after he says that cancer throat (ferral?) gives the camera the fucking dumbest expression I've ever seen in my life. Then immediatley after he throws a punch at the camera then challenges the mafia man to fight. By far the most awkward wtf moment I've ever seen from a fight promotion. Seriously go back and find this part for a good laugh.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:59
wtf is up with the whole "he was winning up to when . ." Doesnt matter who was winning or losing. We've seen fighters dominate round after round and not win cuz they got knocked our or submitted, thats how the MMA game goes. As much as I HATE to quote the Fast N the Furious, " Doesnt matter whether your win by and inch or a mile, winning is winning." Bottom Line: No matter how you dice it, no matter how many " Maybe, ifs, and would haves" you throw at it, the fact still remains; Fedor won & Freddie Roach is still a douchebag that needs to stick to boxing.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:59
wtf is up with the whole "he was winning up to when . ." Doesnt matter who was winning or losing. We've seen fighters dominate round after round and not win cuz they got knocked our or submitted at the end, thats how the MMA game goes. As much as I HATE to quote the Fast N the Furious, " Doesnt matter whether you win by and inch or a mile, winning is winning." Bottom Line: No matter how you dice it, no matter how many " Maybe, ifs, and would of's" you throw at it, the fact still remains; Fedor won & Freddie Roach is still a douchebag that needs to stick to boxing.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 12:06
If winning was losing then Freddie Roach would finally make some sense.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 12:08
And he lost 5 grand to that Jerry Millen piece of yuppie fucking scum.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 12:33
Whoever made that youtube clip at the top of the article is pure genius; encapsulates what happened absolutely perfectly. Superlative effort. Oh and did anyone else notice Arlovski trying not to cry after his loss? I know it's bad form to laugh at a fighter getting emotional after preparing for so long and so hard, and then to go down to one mistake. But I'm a prick. HA HA!
Mon, 01/26/09 - 01:10
There is no luck... Fedor aimed for his jaw and he hit his jaw.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 01:11
friggin relax everybody. Why you people need to fuel the boxing vs. MMA war, is beyond me. Freddie Roach, by all accounts is a great guy and the fact that he is one of the best boxing coaches in the world while battling MS is rather amazing. He is mostly correct with what he is saying, AA was outboxing Fedor, till he got stupid. No, not a "lucky" punch. But, not the first guy to come up with excuses for his fighther. People do it all the time. If you listen to what he says, with an understanding that he is coming from a boxing background, you can understand where he is coming from. He obviously does not hate MMA, or he would not train AA. So, no reason to hate him so much. RELAX....boxing is not out to get you.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 01:17
I'm going to weigh in on this one. Fedor didn't get lucky. Arlovski did make a young man's mistake, but Fedor also made a Veteran's savy move. He baited Arlovski. He acted hurt by that kick to the midsection, he backed into the corner, dropped his hands. He showed a reaction to something. Arlovski saw the normally ice cold emotionless robot, Fedor, react to a hit. He thought Fedor was in trouble, and he went for the kill. If you watch carefully Fedor even feinted like he was going to shoot in on Arlovski. It was a perfect set up by Fedor, and Arlovski fell for it hook line and sinker.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 01:19
That video is full of so much WINNNNN!!! :D
Mon, 01/26/09 - 01:40
I haven't seen the fight yet, unfortunately I had to work. But I had to laugh the article. Fedor is a MONSTER! He probably planned the whole fight. Throw in the bait, wait for it...wait for it.....BAM! Arlovski just got caught in the trap. He didn't even know. That's why Fedor is a MONSTER!
Mon, 01/26/09 - 02:14
That in no way was lucky watch that in slow motion that was a beautiful counter and you could see how Fedor saw that opening. And LOL at AA owning him he landed an Whopping 9 more strikes LOL It isn't very hard to win a fight for 3 minutes...And it's pretty normal for the guy with the height and reach to control early standup with jabs and such none of what Arlovski landed did any damage it just sized him up.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 02:21
"Fedor doesn't close his eyes, he just a thin, flesh-colored membrane that rolls down as he strikes to protect his eyes from flying chunks of teeth and bloody beard folicles. Much like a shark." haha, post of the week.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 02:37
Roach was right -- it WAS too easy for Arlovski. He was pretty much picking Fedor apart for the bulk of the fight, got over-confident, made a dumb, rookie mistake, and got caught. I am not saying that Arlovski was going to win, but Roach was absolutely right.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 02:40
OK so you guys are out with your torches and pitchforks demanding Fedor fight AA again like AA somehow got jobbed. I'm not a huge fan of either fighter but what I saw was a man who could take his opponent's best shots for 3 minutes and still be fine vs a guy who spins through the air like some kind of bearded pinata the first time he gets tagged and is done.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 02:51
I couldnt agree more. Fredy Roach should go crawl back under the rock hes been under(boxing), whats that guy smoking anyway. Fedor fights with his eyes closed? Well you must train with your mouth on Andreis pp cause you sure didnt help him in that fight.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 05:03
"bearded pinata"....hahahahahahahaahahaha!
Mon, 01/26/09 - 07:12
to quote peter griffin: "hey did u see that rock hit me? it was like--POW, RIGHT IN THE KISSAH!!! POW, RIGHT IN THE KISSAH!!! POW, RIGHT IN THE KISSAH!!! POW, RIGHT IN THE KISSAH!!! POW, RIGHT IN THE KISSAH!!!
Mon, 01/26/09 - 08:08
Arlovski is a dumb as a stump. Fedor played him big time. Roach needs to stay out of MMA, unless he wants to take the time to learn how much different it is from boxing. Duh.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 08:35
Hey Roach! MIND OVER MUSCLE!! DON'T EVER DISRESPEC THE LAST EMPORER!!!
Mon, 01/26/09 - 09:31
I've said it before and am saying it again. MMA needs to stay away from these aloof boxing douche bags. Guys like Roach, Shaw, and Juanito think they are better than this sport and will fuck our fighters good given half the chance. Ask Rampage or Kimbo.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 10:08
Fedor has yet to prove himself as a legit badass. He is however, the luckiest fighter on the planet.
Mon, 01/26/09 - 10:39
"Hows taste my big Pepee?".......
Mon, 01/26/09 - 10:40
smfhbsaymf!!!!!!!!
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:39
These fighters DON'T train for months just to get LUCKY.. come on..
Mon, 01/26/09 - 11:40
If that's the case then no one would train, fighters would just rely on their luck.
Tue, 01/27/09 - 12:26
Its a classic move like Ali where he bait his opponent to get toe-to-toe on the rope with him...just what fedor did to arlovski...he bait arlovski to the rope and execute a pure single-punch KO. though it looks awkward but effective.
Tue, 01/27/09 - 03:32
HAHAHAHAHAHAH bearded pinata, haha Fedor is a beast.
Tue, 01/27/09 - 05:06
This sport is not about show it is about skill. If he wants to do show maybe he needs to go to WWE
Tue, 01/27/09 - 07:46
If you call Arlovski giving Fedor quick jabs winning the fight then you need to take a look at Fedor's other fights, he's been in serious trouble in other bouts and ending with him demolishing his opponents.(Hong Man Choi,Kevin Randleman,Kazuyuki Fujita) He said he wasn't the best boxer and he never has been. Fedor's K.O. punch was faster than anything Arlovski dished out. Arlovski's takedown attempt was also a big mistake.
Tue, 01/27/09 - 10:20
Freddie Roach --- are you crazy? an easy win -- are you insane? first of all, no fight against Fedor is ever going to be even anywhere near easy, second anyone in heavyweight division is going to be LUCKY to beat Fedor, if he ever dropped to light heavyweight, then he'd have some tougher challenges and have a more possiblity of losing, still is very possible he would dominate there too though -- Fedor best all around fighter in MMA
Tue, 01/27/09 - 10:31
LOL, thats a good one ---- that punch against arlovski was so dam fast i had to rewind it to see it, and could still barley see it --- Fedor is a beast
Tue, 01/27/09 - 09:27
roach needs to die in a fire... seriously, if fedor didn't win by that lucky punch, then he would've just won by "the armbar...or whatever it's called". fuck roach
Wed, 01/28/09 - 12:44
All Roaches should be SQUASHED.
Wed, 01/28/09 - 03:11
Regardless of lucky punch, or if Fedor was baiting him into a flying knee (which is absurd to think his game plan was to wait for a flying knee--Fedor has said he trains the same way, regardless of who is fighting) it is simple psychology--if you win it is because you did well, a loss is from some outside variable. Why would roach shit on his guy? If AA doesnt believe in his mind that he was winning, then he has no business fighting.
Wed, 01/28/09 - 07:14
First of all GREAT SITE! After a conversation I had with a friend who said Fedor got lucky I decided to see what the internets were saying. I guess there are people out there who agree, but seems like you guys have some good ammo to retu n. Fedor is a legend in his prime.
Wed, 01/28/09 - 08:25
fedors a paper champ.
Wed, 01/28/09 - 10:51
This fight just goes to show Fedor could fart in your general direction and FUCK YOU UP!
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