Kalib Starnes could beat either one of those guys….and we all know where he wound up….

“I know I wouldn’t ever pay money to see either of them fight, ever.”

You pay for cable?

That fight was rediculous, it wasn’t even interesting from an wrestling standpoint, if those dudes fought like that at an event, I hope Dana would fire their asses the next day. Puh-thet-ick. I know I wouldn’t ever pay money to see either of them fight, ever.

@cw

Dante was already starting on the take down just before the ref stepped in. But I agree, the ref should have stuck with the stoppage and broke the fighters apart.

Personally, fighters should know how judges call these fights by now. Bitch all you want, but I knew Dante had round 1 and the sweep by Sene at the end of round 2 gave him a good impression and the judges awarded him the round. Also, with how much time was left in the episode, I figured there’d be round 3 anyways. I get bitched at non-stop at our UFC PPVs because I call the scores correctly much more often than not. No, it’s not because I know everything about MMA or boxing, it’s because I know how UFC judges score rounds. It’s not fucking rocket science.

Dante won round 3 because he had the most time on top and was busy. He controlled most of the round, so the judges gave it to him.

KNOW HOW THE JUDGES CALL FIGHTS and react accordingly. Bitching about “I/he should have won that fight” is worthless. One of the few really decent things Dana White says is “forget the judges, finish the fight so you don’t have to worry about it.”

Both guys were fighting not to lose, Dante was just a bit better at it. Suck it up and improve your game.

That bout (can’t even be called a fight) was a boring hugfest. I didn’t see any submission attempts from Rivera, unless it’s possible to submit a guy by squeezing his torso. Mazzagatti should have stood them up every time they wound up in that tender embrace on the mat.

I lol-ed at Mazzagatti trying to break them up on the cage. Mazz yells ‘okay stop’, Sene stops, Rivera uses that opportunity to take Sene down and then continue fighting. And then Mazz steps back and says something like ‘okay continue’. It reminded me of how Scott Smith got robbed by bad reffing a few years ago.

What Joe said. I don’t see how y’all can say that Sene won that fight. They weren’t being particularly impressive, but Rivera’s ground work and sub attempts required more effort and skill and work on his part than Sene’s pitty-patty shots.

Here’s a little known fact:

On February 18, 1861, Hannibal Hamlin, Abraham Lincoln’s Vice President, put lime juice in Jefferson Davis’s tobacco during a game of backgammon.

Approximately one month later, on April 12, 1861, Confederate forces attacked a U.S. military installation at Fort Sumter in South Carolina, commencing the hostilities of the Civil War.

Coincidence? I think not.

I wasn’t at all impressed by Dante’s BJJ technique. He was struggling for the americana that wasn’t there, all the while missing that Sene would roll his left (near) arm up. When he did that Rivera had an easy angle to shoot his right leg over Brandon’s face while scooping the close arm. It was an easy arm bar, a blue belt arm bar.

Thanks for the recap, I’m all for anything that mixes hurdlers with diarrhea and tobacco pranks.

Can’t win a decision from the bottom? Tell that to Shinya Aoki…

Oh, and I’m not opposed to someone winning a decision from the bottom, like, say, using their guard. But from the bottom in side control? No way. You are clearly not winning if you’re in that position for the majority of the fight.

Earl, I hear you. Certainly, he wasn’t as active on top as he could have been. I think it’s a symptom of him being mostly a jiu-jitsu fighter who looks to submit first and strike second. It may also be because in the first round when he tried for a submission from side control he lost the position and let Sene back to his feet. that might have made him more focused on controlling Sene in the third round, maybe playing it too safe.

I’m not saying Rivera fought a great fight, but he did enough to win. He’s got to add some tools to the toolbox if he wants to go anywhere, but I can’t see how anyone could give that fight to Sene.

Joe, I won’t disagree that Rivera did some of what you said. It just seemed to me that he was laying more than he was trying to do damage. One man’s opinion. And, you’re right, you won’t win a decision from the bottom…unfortunate, but true.

I don’t feel like it’s lay-n-pray when you’re passing guard, moving into side control, and looking for submissions. That’s what Rivera did. Sene threw some little punches and elbows in close, but they only looked good. Did Rivera look “damaged” to you afterwards? Passing guard IS being busy.

It wasn’t a dynamite fight, but that was the only justifiable decision in my view. You can’t spend most of the fight on your back in side control and win a decision. You just can’t.

I agree totally that Sene shoulda won. He was busy the entire fight. That “lay and pray” stuff does nothing for me. Being on top does not always equal “winner”. On a side note, being a southerner myself, you NEVER fuck w/ a man’s tobacco. The Brown/May staredown may have been the most uncomfortable one I’ve ever seen.

ima cockslap those judges so hard, was dante the dude who dana white metioned in the first or second show that just took his opponent down and did the old lay and pray technique?

I was watching and thinking, “Wow, it’s a good goddamn thing they didn’t pull Rivera last week to fight Riddle after all the needling Dante was doing.” If that was Dante’s “A” game Riddle would have tore him up. Yeah I think they gave it to him on takedowns… well it would kinda have to be on takedowns since he didn’t really do anything else.

I give Sene credit for staying busy even if the majority of the shots were off-target and without much behind them. At least he was trying to actively win the fight. Aside from the knee-bar/ankle thing and the half-hearted keylock attempt in the 2nd Rivera seemed content to cuddle and wait for the bell. Disappointing, to say the least.

True, Sene got robbed – I think that Harris was just respecting the judges and Rivera. Sene won that fight

Might wanna change that first paragraph. It says “… and Brandon Sene and Mike Dolce went head-to-head in a three-round war.” When that Mike Dolce should be Dante Rivera.

ON TOPIC:
BRANDON SENE (and Rampage’s entire team) GOT ASS RAPED OUT OF THAT FIGHT. THOSE FUCKING JUDGES JUDGED THAT FIGHT SOLELY ON TAKE-DOWNS. Brandon Sene, although he was getting manhandled position wise, was inflicting the most damage, landing the tougher shots, and defending the take-down EXTREMELY effectively. I’d say that was probably the worst judging in UFC history.