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Hand Surgery Postpones Machida/Rua Rematch Indefinitely

Shogun Rua Lyoto Machida UFC 104
(Well, at least you’re both winners in *our* book. Photo courtesy of Sherdog.)

The "immediate rematch" between Lyoto Machida and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua just got a lot less immediate. Following the controversial outcome of their title fight at UFC 104, Dana White wanted to set up a re-do as soon as possible, hoping for UFC 108 on January 2nd. Unfortunately, Yahoo! is reporting that Machida needs surgery on one of his hands, and won’t be ready to return in two months. As of now, it’s unclear when Machida vs. Rua II will actually happen.

The postponement is just the latest in a unbelievably cursed stretch for the UFC that’s seen a number of headlining fights go down due to acting aspirations, injuries, and illnesses. Speaking of which, don’t expect to see Anderson Silva defend his middleweight belt against Vitor Belfort any time soon either. According to Silva’s manager Ed Soares, the Spider is still recovering from elbow surgery, and won’t be ready to compete in time for UFC 108. As with Machida, Silva’s return date is uncertain. Said Soares: "At the end of the day, it’s going to be a great fight [against Belfort]. Like I said before, I don’t think he deserves a title shot, but that’s over with now. It is what it is."

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MachidaVsSilva- November 3, 2009 at 5:50 am
I just read that Machida received a 60 day medical suspension because of his lip being split. That is why he opted to go ahead with the hand surgery now.
ReaperOfTheGrim- November 2, 2009 at 9:24 pm
I agree with your underlying point that Anderson Silva is a great fighter, but to say GSP "wouldn't stand a chance" is cutting GSP a little short, and putting Silva on too high of a pedestal. I think if GSP and Silva were to meet at some sort of catch weight, it would turn out to be a great match up. If you think back to fights where Silva was on the losing end (if only for a short time), you'll notice that the fighters that give him the most trouble, are the super aggresive wrestlers, that have good ground n pound.. a technique noone employs better then GSP. And with Silva's nearly impenetrable body triangle he holds his oppenents in when he closes his guard, GSP MIGHT not get away with that sort of GnP. Either way.. I'd love to see the match up.
gators81- November 2, 2009 at 7:10 am
Am I the only one who thinks that the Machida/Rua fight was too close to call?

The only round that I could definitively give to either fighter was round 4 for Rua. I had 1,3,5 for Machida and 2,4 for Rua, though every round except for 4 really could have gone either way. I think there is something to be said for having to beat the champ to be the champ.

I think they should wait till they get healthy and have a rematch, if possible I would have ruled the first fight a draw.
Jonny5- November 1, 2009 at 10:33 pm
in a perfect world we would have the return of Rampage and rematch him up against Shogun for a chance to tie the score between the two of them or keep Rua busy in top level fights while Machida heals. Feed Vitor to Nate Marquardt for the #1 spot. Put both matches on the same card and call it UFCxxx Eliminator!
reddog- November 1, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Machida aint ducking shit. Now he knows what to prepare against. Lesnar isn't ducking shit either. As someone recently coming off the very similar 3 week flu,(not aids), I can see where that would hinder training.

Anderson would demolish gsp. Anderson is forrest griffin and machidas size. There is plenty for gsp to do at 170
Savageleto- November 1, 2009 at 7:50 pm
@ Denver_rolling

lmao the whole thing was instantly classic.

denver_rolling- November 1, 2009 at 5:53 pm
@ Savageleto,

Haha, yeah that was funny. "If I leave boxing, the sport dies!"
Dr.- November 1, 2009 at 5:27 pm
In case anyone was wondering, I've been watching MMA before TV was invented - so I win.

Can't we all on here find a better way to slag people other than doing the whole "I've been watching longer than you have, so my opinion is a whole lot more credible."?

With you on this MachidaVsSilva.

This board has turned into such a soap opera. Jesus Christ.
831 Son- November 1, 2009 at 5:08 pm
"I also can't unremember the fact that anderson silva was decisioning 5'6" Mach sakurai in his sixth fight and georges st pierre was winning his ufc debut in his sixth fight, so you'll have to excuse me for thinking that GSP could stand a chance against anderson silva."

Sakurai was 18-1 when Anderson beat him, is that supposed to be unimpressive?
Your argument is weak as fuck you pussy little bitch. You dont make any sense. What does the sixth fight have to do with anything? What does someones height have to do with anything? NOTHING. It just proves how stupid you are when it comes to MMA and life itself. You bring up one loss that you think we dont know of also. Big deal loser, I never said he didnt lose you idiot. Oh an hey faggot, Ive also been watching UFC since the beginning, unlike your lousy ass which just switched over from WWE a year ago. Anderson doesnt cherry pick his opponents unlike other little pussies. I agree that other people do, a select few, which are bitching out, but Anderson doesnt and there is no logical reason to believe he does. You sir, just proved in your long retarded post that you are the fucking idiot. Oh man, too bad your too dumb to say anything relevant to the argument you worthless little girl. Go kill yourself loser, do us a favor.
meanfinger- November 1, 2009 at 4:46 pm
i never said he was ducking anyone i said he's stalling... hes gonna drink some more pee pee and kick some more coconut trees to strengthen them good ol shin bones and try it again.. that would be pretty cool if the ufc had their own team of physicans to determine the injuries so they cant pull this b.s.
MachidaVsSilva- November 1, 2009 at 4:34 pm
For the record Danomite, I watched the UFC 1 live and I've been hooked ever since. It was a completely different sport than it is now. Before that I watched boxing religiously and before that I watched fucking Kung Fu Theater. I don't really have any beef with you and I'll agree that GSP has the best ground and pound in the game at 170lbs. I'm here to watch some cool vids and I do enjoy a debate. Try not to take it so personally.
UFC fan- November 1, 2009 at 3:10 pm
danomite please remember this: 831 son's name is cali-fag so stop changing it, damn it.
Savageleto- November 1, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I tried to post this yesterday... but it did not stick for some reason...

Did you guys hear Floyd Mayweather Jr get owned on the radio?

It would be a good front page post... lol

Its classic!

Just google it its on youtube in two parts..

Cant post the links--
danomite- November 1, 2009 at 2:08 pm
@ 831 girl, Dmonicideals, and machidavssilva.

how does that work? does one of you type while the other two work the shaft and massage the balls, then you switch and another guy logs in? how do you decide who goes next? does the guy working the balls go next or is it the guy who mans the shaft? I wish I could be an one of those guys like you three who started watching MMA after TUF, but unfortunately I can't turn back time and therefore am forced to remember that horrible performance anderson put up against ryo chonan which ended in anderson tapping out. I also can't unremember the fact that anderson silva was decisioning 5'6" Mach sakurai in his sixth fight and georges st pierre was winning his ufc debut in his sixth fight, so you'll have to excuse me for thinking that GSP could stand a chance against anderson silva. One of you even said that his takedown defense was his weakness then goes on to say that the guy with the best takedowns in MMA wouldn't stand a chance. oh, and they don't choose who they fight now? it's a contract, if they don't want to fight someone they don't sign the contract, and a lot of fighters are on the record, i believe anderson included, telling joe silva who they want to fight next. they also say who they won't fight next, like when rashad and jardine said they'd never fight each other. i really don't even need to bring up the fact that silva and machida are on record saying they'll never fight each other even though dana said he wants them to. so basically, you're fucking retarded 813 girl
831 Son- November 1, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Yea but seeing how hes gotten taken down in numerous fights, he still overwhelms every single fighter he faces. The only real reason that everyone gives Hendo and Lutter alot of credit is because it was the first time in the UFC that Anderson was taken down and controlled for a portion of a round. I agree that the only way Silva will lose is get GnP'd by a strong ass wrestler. But Silva has fucking nasty reversals in his arsenal that he uses alot and I just dont see anyone beating him, even in the 205 class.
MachidaVsSilva- November 1, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Actually, I think Silva will get beat by a strong chinned wrestler. I think Dan Henderson had him on his back for a full round. I think Travis Lutter had him on the ropes.
knee_strike- November 1, 2009 at 12:34 pm

Fair enough. I assume by your name that the only fighter in the UFC that you think could beat Silva is Machida. Is that true?

Speaking of Machida, I think he's just playing it safe. I can't imagine he's in any hurry to risk giving up his belt.
MachidaVsSilva- November 1, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Machida is a scared little pussy? Really? I agree with you about the leg kicks, but Shogun made Machida chase him and still only scored about 2 punches. And Machida blocked a few of the kicks that Rogan said were devastating. Yes, Machida was limping. Yes, Shogun looked awesome. But Machida is no pussy. He was chasing Shogun.
UFC fan- November 1, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Drink more piss machida and keep having a dream.
I think machida is a scared little pussy and making up shit to keep his belt.
with machida's win (that he really lost) he no longer is the invincible person that would have made a fight between him and anderson fun, it no longer is a worthy fight. Anderson would destroy him like a play-toy, it is apparent why they don't want to fight now, and I no longer want to see it. I doubt Machida will ever defend his belt again no that everyone knows how to beat him.
Sooner or later there will be judges that know what a fucking legkick rates in points.
MachidaVsSilva- November 1, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Invincible, no. But he would pick GSP apart with his reach. GSP is extremely athletic but at the end of the day he wins by brute force. He would not be able to overcome Anderson Silva by brute force. As for Machida, stalling doesn't really make sense. How does that help him? He has to wait longer for a paycheck, disappoint the fans, sponsors and Dana White all while being accused of ducking Shogun.
knee_strike- November 1, 2009 at 11:55 am
@J Akuma

LOL! Best post in the thread.


You're exaggerating a tad. Silva's good, but he's not some invincible warrior. And come on, St. Pierre would at least give Silva a run for his money.


I agree. I think Machida's stalling.
MachidaVsSilva- November 1, 2009 at 11:42 am
I guess Last Emporer. I still feel that the next person to beat Silva will do it by ground and pound. Meanfinger, don't drink and post.
LastEmperor- November 1, 2009 at 10:51 am
It WAS his takedown defence.

It wasn't great in pride but he's pretty much fixed that in the ufc.
meanfinger- November 1, 2009 at 10:40 am
machida is just buyin some time to make a new gameplan.. i think he's pullin a lesnar.
MachidaVsSilva- November 1, 2009 at 10:19 am
If Anderson Silva has one weakness it is his takedown defense. Other than that he's damn near indestructible. Respect the Spider. And in response to danomite, GSP wouldn't stand a chance against Anderson Silva.