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Has B.J. Penn Lost His Damn Mind?


(Plotting his next move…)

Someone please explain to me what has happened to B.J. Penn.  Did he suffer some sort of brain trauma in his fight with Georges St. Pierre?  Is he playing an elaborate practical joke on all of us, or does he just crave attention?

First Penn came out this week claiming that Kenny Florian, the man who will likely face Penn in the Octagon next (coincidence?), sent him an email before UFC 94 to tip him off about GSP’s greasing.  When Florian denied it, asking Penn to produce the email as proof, Penn changed his story completely.  In a video post to BJPenn.com yesterday, he claimed it was a text, not an email, and it was sent to a member of Penn’s camp, not Penn himself, and that it included charges of steroid use.  

I’m going to have to call shenanigans, as they say, and for several reasons.



1) Whatever I may believe about B.J. Penn, I think he knows the difference between an email that arrives in his inbox and a text message sent to one of his friends.  My grandfather knows the difference between those two things, and he doesn’t have a computer or a cell phone.

2) If Florian really did send this text, why didn’t Penn produce it as soon as Florian called him a liar in public?  All he has to do is show us the text message in one of his video blogs, show that it came from Florian’s phone number, and the debate is over.

3) Why would Florian, who has been waiting in the wings for a shot at Penn’s title for months now, send a text message to his future opponent alerting him to potential cheating by GSP?  Florian needed Penn to lose in order to get a shot at his belt sooner rather than later.  It wouldn’t make any sense for him to help Penn, nor would it make sense for the host of “MMA Live” to go spreading gossip about fellow UFC fighters via text message.

Talking with Steve Cofield today, Penn entourage flunky Troy Mandaloniz also claimed that St. Pierre was on steroids, backing up the claim with such sound reasoning as, “Look at the body. He looks to me like he’s pretty suspect.”

Yeah, or like he works his ass off in the gym every day.

It’s possible GSP is on something.  It’s hard to take a pro athlete at his word these days when he says he’s all natural.  It’s also possible that he’s a greaser, and that KenFlo sent a text to warn Penn about it (though it obviously didn’t help him any).  

If that’s the case, Penn should prove it, or else shut up about it.  The longer he drags this out, the more pathetic he looks, like a guy who can’t accept a legitimate loss.  If this is all for attention, or to drum up interest in a bout between Penn and Florian, it’s even sadder still.  Every show can’t be the BJ Penn(.com) show, just like every fight can’t be a rivalry match. 

If he’d just focus on fighting, like he used to, maybe we’d be paying attention for the right reasons.  Then instead of telling us who is and isn’t an honorable champion, he could simply show us.

(BF)

Comments

  1. ap0x Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 02:58


    Hayo!
  2. Anonymous420 Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:01


    lol o hai
  3. CanadianProduce Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:02


    Is it just me or does Penn look like the first evolutionary creature that just stepped out of the ocean?
  4. CanadianProduce Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:02


    Oh, and WTF is with the winning comments this week. Garbagio IMO.
  5. Mikey Gilz Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:03


    KenFlo.....YA DEAD!!!
  6. alisotrev Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:05


    Next BJ is going to say he didn't eat and was just drinking energy drinks for 3 days before making these allegations.
  7. Surprise Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:06


    GSP doesn't look like a roider to me. Not that I'm an expert, but I've watched pro-wrestling for years (shut up...) and I'm usually fairly decent at picking out who's on steroids.
  8. Anonymous Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:09


    Jeesh BJ. Making history for the biggest whiner ever... fuck your good rep man. its goin down.
  9. Ozone Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:09


    im just waiting for the "jose canseco" of mma to come out with a tell all book on various cheating methodologies
  10. Anonymous Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:09


    gsp has a his name on a list at the canadian/ US border for roids, and has been caught
  11. Meohfumado Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:14


    Shouldn't BJ be wearing a hat made out of aluminum foil in that pic? How else is he going to keep the alien overmind from reading his thoughts?
  12. half-baked Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:14


    haha why would his friend have a text from someone weeks ago? and i don't think ken-flo would of had to wait longer if penn won, bj would have either defended the LW belt next or vacated it.
  13. emo sux Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:15


    This guy is giving Mr. Machine a run for his money...
  14. tom Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:17


    his name isnt "Baby" Jay for nothing...
  15. CanadianProduce Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:17


    Penn needs to leave his nest. All he has is his Hawaiin pride and his yes men. Hawaiins are awesome people, very positive and protective. Guys like BJ, feed into their own hype "Penn for Governor" for example. If Penn wants to be the best fighter he needs to leave his comfort zone. I hope the wrecking that he recieves from Florian will help him.
  16. Quasicholo Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:17


    I love BJ, but the only video he needs to produce is one of him busting his ass in the gym preparing for Florian. that would be much more shocking and attention worthy.
  17. FlamingJesus Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:20


    I know a lot of steroid users that come to the same gym as me, and hangout with me from time to time. GSP's body doesnt really look roided up, it looks defined yes, and pretty muscular. But he's still lean, and his shoulders and neck/jaw line are not very big at all. Thiago Alves looks a LOT more suspect to me. In his time in the ufc his neck and jaw has gotten a lot thicker looking, and he looks like hes bloated fighting in the ring. Im not accusing him of anything, just explaining that there are other fighters in the ufc, even in peirre's weightclass that look more suspect than him. Throughout that "UFC: Primetime" series, I saw a lot of St. peirre's workouts, and if I did that everyday I have no doubt I could look pretty close to what peirre does. He works his ass off daily, while penn sits around and talks shit. He has lost any credibility I had for him, and im sure im not the only one. GSP won the fight, man up, get back in the gym and train, or Florians gonna fuck you up too. Fuckin pussy.
  18. the chronic Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:20


    whaddafuck? has bj penn become the britney spears of mma? is he losing his fukken mind? next where gonna hear that someone was grinding pills in his cereal. subterfuge n sabotage, everyones' fault but mine man, put down the kind hawaiin green awhile you trippin
  19. FlamingJesus Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:22


    great article by the way. Perfectly explains why Penn should grow his dick back and become the blood licking crazy hawaiian I used to like to watch.
  20. Perdew Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:22


    most people lie after they've been raped.
  21. B-tard Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:27


    Well it was an e-mail sent to my sister's blackberry
  22. Perdew Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:27


    i know i did the first two times
  23. 1glove Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:27


    First BJ lost the fight, now he's losing fans.
  24. Im not a moose Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:28


    Dear BJ- Shut up and fight people really good. Also, you look like a giant brownish fetus.
  25. Sheps Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:30


    LEAVE BEJAY ALONE!
  26. Douche Machine Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:32


    Rude Boy is the pound for pound biggest retard in Hawaii.
  27. soorma Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:32


    Dude, BJ Penn is fucken weird. Can you just picture him and his friends sitting on the beach around a fire talking about that cheater GSP and how Penn almost won, but the grease was too much....like 10 years from now. Him and Hughes will get together and have a big cry over it in the future. Former victims of Greasy Rush Rape
  28. Anonymous Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:39


    BJ needs to tie himself to a bigger rock in the ocean. GSP hardly looks like he's on 'roids. He looks like he works his ass off.
  29. shaNayNayigans Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:45


    1) BJ lost to him twice now 2) BJ is a tubby crybaby 3) BJ needs to take 30 sec and BJ himself
  30. john t Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 03:54


    BJ Penn is one of my favorite fighters but c'mon BJ give it the fuck up. Shut up and just rock whoever you fight at 155 next (K Flo), its the only thing that will do you any amount of justice.
  31. Anonymous Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:03


    GSP has like no body fat and works his ass out in the gym everyday .. most people can do it but their too lazy (troy "rudeboy" mandoliniz) to step their game up in the gym and get a W. Go back to reffing u dirtbag rudeboy
  32. BIG CHRIS Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:07


    BJ I am a fan of yours but please let this go, the faster you let this fight go and move on to destroy your next opponent, the faster we can forget that you threw in the towel and couldn't finish this one....and beleive me I want to forget, and every time I start to forget about it there you go doing something else, saying something else...please move forward from this loss, and build your legacy as the best lightweight ever in the UFC, cause that is a reachable goal for you.
  33. Anonymous Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:08


    This article is devoid of all reasoning. Well done.
  34. Greite Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:12


    And in his next interview, BJ reveals that Michael Jackson really didn't come to his house to use the bathroom.........but his sister did!!!
  35. Dagnut Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:16


    I gots myself to thinking the other day, in this age of the w@nkernet when everyone can talk boll0x is Penn just a nob or is he selling his product? is he that dumb and that petty that he would chase every avenue for an excuse and drag reputable fighters into it? IN days of old Ali, Sugar ray, tyson..all spoke sh!t about opponents BUT they where selling the product..they didn't have facespace to air every little grievance they had so when they had an audience they hyped things up...is it necessary for Penn to be doing this? In a word no...he has shown himself to be a petty, unsportmanslike and frankly classless little man. OK not everyone can be a nice guy but there such a think as honour and he is quickly losing the respect of fight fans and fellow fighters alike. I have florian to beat him..not because I like florian..but because I think he has shown himself to be an excellent strategist and a competent fighter..Penn can be out thought in a fight..frustrated..I think Floarin has the game plan to do it
  36. Cereal Killer Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:17


    This is a sign that BJ is on his way out. First you lose fights and if you can't improve yourself, you cry about it. Ken Flo is going to kick his fat ass. This clown will be a distant memory a year from now.
  37. someguy Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:20


    BJ has to stop working out in Hawaii because he keeps getting sand in his vagina
  38. MC Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:26


    All this is is BJ playing mind games. Same way he always is, stirring the pot and trying to build hype for the fight.
  39. Anonymous Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:27


    This made me laugh so hard
  40. Sheps Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:31


    He isn't weird at all, hes just a bad loser, caught up in a whole bunch of mess. But really, leave the poor guy alone, he just got his ass beat by GSP, of course he's going to say things to make himself feel better and of course the people around him and going to be doing the same.
  41. Imbecile Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:35


    Why does everyone act like this is somehow a new personality trait for BJ Penn? He has alwasy been a poor loser... and a poor winner. He is simply a spoiled asshole. And despite what kool-aid everyone seems to be drinking, he never produced his actual x-ray showing a rib fracture or torn tissue after the Matt Hughes fight. BJ is full of excuses, and he has little issue with outright lying. He thinks he is entitled to success without hard work, and he makes really stupid jokes about how GSP lives in cold weather when there are much better and more obvious jokes to be had at the expense of French-Canadians. Pathetic!
  42. cpanger Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:48


    i really like how Troy Mandaloniz thinks people would even consider his comment, or even pay attention to anything that floats out his mouth. Have fun getting your face punched in at 95 pal.
  43. Swimming with Idiots Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 04:49


    Serious Question: Is BJ drifting towards Tito Ortiz territory? I know he is a LONG way off from that level of dementia but...his recent actions after losing to a much better GSP are embarrassing. God help all of us if he loses to KenFlo...he will claim that Kenny is from outer space. Let's face it...BJ will not be "BJ" forever and he is clearly nearing the second half of his career. How he handles that descent will certainly influence how he is perceived by MMA fans. Someone close to him should tell him to train more and talk less.
  44. RickyRobbie Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 05:19


    BJ is on drugs just like on that video on youtube where he´s singing in a car
  45. Your Father Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 05:49


    Wow, the poster of this is a ignorant bastard, and either a serious Penn hater, or a GSP nut hugger, or possibly both. That's an awful hardcore rant for some one who has no inside information at all, and has no fucking idea regarding the validity of anything Penn has said. Casually refering to a text message as an email is perfectly understandable, and not necessarily incriminating. Then you make the totally fucking ridiculouse statement "Why didn't Penn produce this text as soon as Florian called him a liar" Are you really that ignorant? Why would some one save a message like that for such a long time? At the time he wouldn't have know that Florian was going to lie about it, and would have had no reason to keep it. A text like that wouldn't have any legan significance either, so saving it would accomplish nothing. Which is it, Penn hater, GSP nut hugger, or a combination of both? Then your #3 paragraph, is possibly the most ignorant stupidity that you've spewed so far. Why would Florian send a text to Penn??????? Because it's the honorable thing to do dumb ass!!! I sure as hell hope that there's still people out there that are honorable enough to inorm people of such things. And what the hell does him being a host for "MMA Live" have to do with shit??? For whatever possible reason would holding such a position prevent a person from doing the right thing, and informing a fellow fighter of something as serious as this? You've failed at painting a picture of B.J. Penn, but you been very successful at revealing to everyone what type of person you really are inside. Did you get treated poorly as a child, and now you're taking it out on others?
  46. Bigmaciraq Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 06:21


    You pointed out the "Why would Ken not do it?", but you forgot the "Why would BJ say he DID do it?". Rumor has it that Kenny is going up to train with GSP. Maybe BJ is worried that GSP is going to give Ken too much information about how to kick BJs ass. A little rift between the two could save BJ a second loss in a row. I personally am not sure Ken Flo has it in him, but I can not deny that he has been improving leaps and bounds and BJ is still just using his same (albiet effective) fighting method...
  47. Fedor a million ankles Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 06:57


    What the hell is wrong with this guy? P4P biggest liar.
  48. MJM Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 07:21


    First it was Kenny e-mailed BJ. Then it was Kenny texted "someone" in BJ's camp. Next it will be a dream BJ's pet turtle had that it conveyed to BJ through interpretive dance.
  49. Anonymous Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 07:35


    shut the fuck up
  50. Contraband Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 08:17


    Ya well i training parnet of of mine who has a frind in an other who's cousin works at walmart had a customers brother get a email from Brock lesanr saying he done roids. actually it was a text message and it was realy sent to my cryropactor
  51. Anonymous Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 09:05


    Anyone know that reggae song playing in BJ Penn Episode 9 when he's riding his bike around ?
  52. Anonymous Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 09:11


    pound for pound biggest baby...think about it...he's chubby like a baby, he's flexible like a baby, he cries like a baby, and he's got a huge head like a baby (both literally and figuratively ). next u'll find out that he tests positive for some super growth hormone and jiu jitsu pills. shame on that giant baby's parents for feeding him those things.
  53. Tbadora Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 09:41


    And to mentally prepare for his upcoming fight, BJ will be performing an ancient Hawiian ritual that has been passed down for generations: ...Carrying a big fucking rock across a driving range in the middle of the day...And then he'll finish off by slapping himself in the chin several times just before his fight. BJ needs to stop his bullshit mental games, and actually 'train'.
  54. ihatejardine!!alot Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 10:07


    bj is a bitch! i hate him he is no champion!!!!!
  55. SMITH313 Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 10:28


    LOST HIS MIND?? ........ NO! SMOKES TO MUCH WEED?? ........... YEA!
  56. randy watson Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 10:41


    man, i used to like bj, but now hes just plain annoying...... he worries more about talking up his fights so he gets more money then actually training. bj = a naturally gifted fighter who will not learn how to become a better fighter.
  57. Anonymous Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 10:43


    "gsp has a his name on a list at the canadian/ US border for roids, and has been caught" Bullshit, prove it!
  58. Anonymous Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 10:59


    Your Father is BJ Penn's Father
  59. Sean Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 11:18


    Just thought I'd point this out. We all saw on the Spike special that neither BJ nor his camp have any problem lying, even to the likes of Dana White about his dedication to his training. I think what we have here is just another incident in a pattern of dishonesty that seems to be pretty typical for him and his entourage...
  60. Anonymous Says:

    Fri, 02/13/09 - 11:28


    "Just thought I'd point this out. We all saw on the Spike special that neither BJ nor his camp have any problem lying, even to the likes of Dana White about his dedication to his training. I think what we have here is just another incident in a pattern of dishonesty that seems to be pretty typical for him and his entourage..." Great point! Didn't teven think about that until you mentioned it!
  61. Anonymous Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 12:12


    How this guy has any fans is beyond me.
  62. gvd Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 12:19


    Jesus christ BJ just shut the fuck up and start training properly. Maybe if you trained really hard you could have a body like GSPs. Who knows?
  63. gvd Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 12:21


    I'm finding this worse than rampage going nuts and getting arrested. At least the guy accepted his loss. Even if he didn't handle it in the best way.
  64. vslament Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 12:25


    Penn should go train in Turkey. Ya?l? güre? is the Turkish national sport. It is commonly known as oil wrestling (sometimes as grease wrestling) because the wrestlers douse themselves with olive oil.
  65. Stinky Mike Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 12:58


    bj's next excuse "he threw sand in my eyes"
  66. kegli Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 01:04


    How can anyone cheer for this dipshit. I say this only because he looks like the spawn of a Thai hooker and a brick wall. Man what an ugly baby.
  67. Backbaconbilly Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 03:11


    Meohfumado Says: Fri, 02/13/2009 - 15:14 Shouldn't BJ be wearing a hat made out of aluminum foil in that pic? How else is he going to keep the alien overmind from reading his thoughts? Now THAT is a funny comment C.P, and very appropriate as well.
  68. shacklemenot Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 05:02


    next thing you know BJ will accuse GSP of being any number of mythical creatures, whether it be a sasquatch, alien, barry bonds, or manbearpig.
  69. jarhead Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 06:16


    I'm with you on this one Big Chris. BJ, shut up, lose the weight, and go back to kicking butt.
  70. Anonymous Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 07:23


    bj has just bought into too much of the talk that he is this great fighter. he needs to accept the fact he is good not great. gsp, torres, fedor, a silva they are great bj just isnt in their league. he hasnt beaten a top teir fighter in how long? everytime he faces a top guy he loses. and his two dominant wins at lightweight against one dimensional guys? big effing deal. look how long he took to put away stephenson and how long it took kflo to put away a more rounded stephenson. kflo will destroy penn and then that will be the end of the whiny rich boy from haawai. and i for one am tired of listening to him and will be glad hes gone. btw i hope kflo doesnt come into the fight in shape cuz i guess if you dont come into a fight looking like a fat pos u must be on the roids.
  71. Stevia Addict Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 08:05


    If Penn knew GSP was going to be "greasing" why the hell would his corner not do anything during the fight? Why would they wait to complain until after the fight and let BJ get his ass kicked by a greased up GSP?
  72. Anonymous Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 08:18


    Has B.J. Penn Lost His Damn Mind? No, just his hair.
  73. jarhead Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 08:18


    If BJ stops crying, then the terrorists win.
  74. CALIFORNIA Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 09:04


    BJ is the man!
  75. Anonymous Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 09:13


    "if you wanna know what bj thinks go to bjpenn.com" storms out of octagon. fuck you fucking weirdo whino.
  76. fat.smelly.ballsack Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 09:28


    This one time I tried giving myself a bj and my mom walked in, and when she came in I panicked and rolled over smashing my head in and having to go get stitches. I didnt tell the doctor what happened, but it was pretty fucking shitty to say the least. What Bj is doing is more embarrasing than that. Because his whole career is going down the shitter, not just the respect his mom has for him.
  77. skates Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 11:17


    lol wut?
  78. Mitch Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 12:22


    haha perdew...that was funny
  79. Anonymous Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 04:35


    BJJ Penn needs to fire his trainers and join Greg Jackson's camp. His team sucks, after watching the training videos from Spike I'm surprised he wins at all. GSP has a million times better camp. BJ needs to realize that he has the skills, but a shitty team.
  80. Blah Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 04:43


    All bj's 'team' does is tell him how good he is. They dont exam his weaknesses, nor have the balls to even tell him about them. That isnt going to make you a great fighter ... period. It might make you a cocky peice of shit, and a horrible loser. But a legendary fighter, no.
  81. nukka Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 04:44


    what the fuck smelly ballsack. I mean I laughed so hard I started coughing. But... thats a story I would keep to myself.
  82. Your Father Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 05:14


    You're filled with quite a bit of hate huh?
  83. Anonymous Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 05:17


    really do you work at the border???? i think the random drug tests he and penn both had to pass 2 months before the fights would have picked up some steriods in his system...been caught huh? in what organization was he caught juicing??? really curious about this whole statement of yours mr. border gaurd
  84. Your Father Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 05:20


    That's one of the most ignorant things I've heard some one say on here. It appears as though you have very poor perception. B.J. never lied in the show, he simply didn't answer his phone. His brother didn't lie either, because he didn't know where B.J. was at at the time he talked to Dana. You need to remember that this show was filmed earlier, and then edited and pieced together after the fact. It's easy to watch the airing of the show in it's final editing, when everything is already hindsight by that point, and make ignorant judgments accordingly, but his brother didn't have the luxery of hindsight at that time, and only told dana what he believed to be true at the time. I don't know... Maybe you suffer from immaturity?
  85. Your Father Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 05:25


    Anonymous Says: Fri, 02/13/2009 - 22:59 Your father is BJ Penn's father I'm your father!!!
  86. UFC fan Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 06:20


    Seems Blow Job is saying all kinds of things to keep his face in the public. To bad GSP beat it uglier than it was, and it seems brain damage is the next step. After Kenny fucks up BJ, his next shit will involve aliens greasing up his asshole and injecting HIM with steroids...fucking cheating aliens!
  87. ramrod Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 09:23


    G.S.P HAD HIM WOULDNT OF MATTERED
  88. bubbaduncan Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 10:20


    someone call the wahhhhhhmbulance.
  89. Whats this world coming to. Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 10:32


    I realize no one is forcing me read these articles, but I think it would be nice to hear from someone a little more open minded. Maybe some one with a little common sense and reason. That was some bias BS. I can't imagine someone being upset about his opponent cheating. I don't care how small the infraction, if I dedicated 3 months of my life to something and some bull went down like that, I'd be pissed. I like Penn and I like that he talks sh__t. Half the fun is the banter before and after the fight. Fighters are typically cocky and some are a little more verbal about it. No I don't think greasing changed the fight, I think BJ lost to a bigger stronger fighter. I just thought I'd take BJ's side cuz everyone else wrote him off. A year ago we were singin BJ's praises and now these articles are chopin him down. Lets all jump ship when a fighters down. I think I know what BF stands for.
  90. MMA Wannabe Says:

    Sat, 02/14/09 - 11:17


    Yup. Ben Fowlkes. The article isn't bashing him because he's a fighter on the down. It's couched against BJ for going bat-shit crazy and whining and making excuses. If he REALLY TRULY thinks that GSP was cheating and thats how he won, he would have gone ahead and filed that complaint, ten times over. What BJ is doing now, just doesn't make sense. He's just trying to bring GSP down. Shame he couldn't work this hard for a takedown in their fight.
  91. VirpZ Says:

    Sun, 02/15/09 - 01:41


    For sure after Florian loss BJ will say something like that: I wasnt focused for that fight. You know... all that grease talk... I lost to KenFLo but it was "GSP grease" fault, but now Im ready I never trainned so hard, I changed, now i train like 5 days on 5 off. I work hard man, we go to the death !!!!!! OH sorry, iv already used that one... We go somewhere else, ok ? Just listen !!! Im telling you, I did changed, now Im focused !!!!!!!
  92. Fedor a million ankles Says:

    Sun, 02/15/09 - 02:34


    Yes it's pretty evident that BJ is only trying to smear GSP's image. If he was having trouble holding guard because GSP was too slippery, then he would have said something during the fight and it's be on camera and GSP would have his title stripped. GSP's cornerman is a sneaky, cheating piece of shit who knew EXACTLY what he was doing and did on purpose. He should never be allowed to corner again. I do not hold this against GSP, all of his wins are legit in my eyes. @ Your Father - Shut the fuck up dumb ass, the only nuthugger here is you. BJ Penn is despicable. I don't understand how anyone can still be a fan of him after he quit in the middle of a title fight.
  93. optimus Says:

    Sun, 02/15/09 - 09:19


    i have a hard time bekieving that passing cars don't throw stuff at BJ when he jogs by, he makes hawaii look bad. the only reason he is relevent in the ufc is because he hasn't lost or deserted the belt yet.
  94. backbaconbilly Says:

    Sun, 02/15/09 - 11:20


    Has anyone heard BJ give the slightest public acknowledgement to GSP for his victory?? I sure as hell hav'nt. And that is one of the biggest reasons why BJ keeps getting shit on, he is a poor loser plain and simple and the average fight fan doesn't like to see a poor loser ( no matter who he is ) So, until you start seeing BJ give George a little recognition for his victory its unlikely you will see any of the BJ bashing stop.
  95. Your Father Says:

    Sun, 02/15/09 - 02:51


    @ "Fedor a million ankles" @ Your Father - Shut the fuck up dumb ass, the only nuthugger here is you. BJ Penn is despicable. I don't understand how anyone can still be a fan of him after he quit in the middle of a title fight. Listen you ignorant FUCK!!! I'm more of a fan of GSP than I am of BJ's. And for you to say that he quit in the middle of a title fight just proves how fucking ignorant and immature you are. BJ had no choice in the fight being stopped. The doctore recomended to the ref that the fight be stopped, and the ref, like they do 100% of the time, took the doctors advice and stopped the fight, you immature childish fuck. Learn the facts before you go making a fool of yourself. And then you make the other ignorant, malignant dumb statement that BJ "WOULD" have said something during the fight, when he "DID" say something during the fight. The greasing was caught on film, and was eventually noticed by an official from the athletic commision, was noticed by Frank Mir, and noticed by Dana White, amongst many others. This greasing is in fact illegal, but decisions are not overturned based on it. These regulations and policies are a matter of public record. You may have been successful at conceiling your foolishness thus far, but you've definately revealed it now. Good job :)
  96. Your Father Says:

    Sun, 02/15/09 - 03:09


    Quote = : backbaconbilly, Sun, 02/15/2009 - 11:20 Has anyone heard BJ give the slightest public acknowledgement to GSP for his victory?? I sure as hell hav'nt. And that is one of the biggest reasons why BJ keeps getting shit on, he is a poor loser plain and simple and the average fight fan doesn't like to see a poor loser ( no matter who he is ) So, until you start seeing BJ give George a little recognition for his victory its unlikely you will see any of the BJ bashing stop. BJ acknowledged GSP's victory in their first fight, and would have this time too if there wasn't this huge controversy. I don't think people realize how big of a deal a little bit of lube makes. Most of these people here would really benefit from taking a physics class, so they can learn the properties of a lubricant. A very minute amount can make a gigantic difference, and can cause a person to have to use huge amount of more energy than they normally would have, causing them to get exausted much quicker than normal. It can also make it completely impossible to apply a successful submission. It's sort of humorous to see all these people who have never fought a day in their lives, and have no idea what it's really like, making these absurd statements. I suggest to all of these people here to grab a friend of yours' hand, with each of you holding on as tight as you can, and then try to pull apart while still holding tight. Then try the same thing again with a little bit of vasaline on your hands, and you notice that the difference is phenominal. Would no Vas has changed the outcome of the fight? maybe not, but it's possible that it very easily could have. People need to get in there and fight under the two different scenarios so they'll know them themselves the difference it truely makes, and then afterwards they'll realize how ignorant they've sounded up to this point.
  97. UFC fan Says:

    Sun, 02/15/09 - 06:32


    Actually YOUR FATHER you are complete daft moronic fucktard, and a wrong one at that, you spew your stupid shit like tug gay! Your both right for each other, you act like you know something when you dont KNOW fucking shit. (how does that feel?) you stupid cocksmoker the doctor was looking at him, and his cornerman above them on the outside of the ring made the 'slashing" motion, and told the doctor he was done, and THEN the doctor told the ref......get it right you pompous moronic slab of fucking goofiness. And BJ Penn didn't say anything about GSP being greasy until AFTER the fight, like the next day, he was busy getting his eggs scrambled like yours obviously are. You really need to go watch the video again cause you have the memory of ...oh say a BJ Penn.
  98. Anonymous Says:

    Sun, 02/15/09 - 07:44


    The more Penn talks and drags people into this silly nonesense, the more he looks like a nut. Everyones in on it, everyone knows GSP is cheating they're just lying. Anything, but he got his ass whupped. Look, could GSP be on steroids, sure I suppose. In pro-sports nothing suprises me. Could Kenny Florian have sent Penn/Penn's guy and e-mail/text message. Yeah, I guess so. Prove it or shut your cake hole. Penn is starting to sound like a jilted boyfriend spreading rumors about the girl who blew him off.
  99. johnnynormal Says:

    Sun, 02/15/09 - 09:39


    what little respect I had for this douche is quickly receding, much like his hair line
  100. TB Says:

    Sun, 02/15/09 - 11:51


    LOL!!!!!!!!! Now that was funny!
  101. Anonymous Says:

    Mon, 02/16/09 - 02:02


    sigh... barfing 2 different strories like that doesn't sound very credible. Why wait that long to pull that story out? wtf As a professional, BJ should have learned better. He's is an amateur
  102. ArmChairFighter Says:

    Mon, 02/16/09 - 11:28


    How come none of BJ's excuses included phrases like, "I'm a quitter", "he's a better fighter than me", "I didn't prepare enough", "He worked harder than me".....this "child" has no character.
  103. gspfan Says:

    Tue, 02/24/09 - 02:54


    this is all bs, bj penn needs to get over the fact that he lost, the greasing did not change the outcome of the fighter, the better fighter cam out there and proved to everyone he was better so BJ needs to just accept the fact that he cant beat gsp.
  104. SardaukarNo1 Says:

    Wed, 02/25/09 - 07:58


    BJ Penn's diet is high in chicken shit and pussy juice.
  105. Anonymous Says:

    Sat, 03/21/09 - 03:43


    BABY JAY, I'm from Hilo and been watching you fight for years. I respect you for all of your accomplishments but you're going to far. Just stop all this nonsense and train. You got beat by a better fighter. You couldn't stop his WRESTLING skills. That's how you got demolished not by his grease. So please do us a favor here in your hometown. SHUT YOUR BABY JAY mouth up! Your embarrasing us. JUST WORK MORE IN YOUR WRESTLING SKILLS SO THAT YOU WOULDN'T GET MOUNTED AGAIN.
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