I think Coleman’s the one to beat him.

That was a crazy knockout

I mis-spoke the knockdown that I referred to was at 1:33 of the second round or thereabouts. Left hand jodan gyaku-zuki to Rashad’s face drops him. This is a simple reverse punch, left leg back….trained by Lyoto for probably 20+ years… Easy to do, hard to perfect. Timing is everything.

Kempo666
After reading your post about Shotokan, I was compelled to reply.

With 24 years of experience in Shotokan both training and teaching….there is a lot you can learn about this art.

First let me state that I am a complete mma fan and have total respect for all arts out there. You need to understand that the training that takes place in Traditional Karate Do is focused on providing quality basics and designed to form the right kind of mechanics that ultimately create power.

The Shotokan Karateka is constantly training on Kihon (Basics or Fundamentals) and timing. The wide stances and “pulling-the-striking-arm-WAAAY-back” are part of the fundamentals that I am referring to.

These fundamentals translate differently in the real world or when they are actually applied. Applied correctly the training should provide a person the ability to use both hands and feet very quickly, precisely and powerfully. All Martial arts have their basics and knocking Shotokan the way you are simply shows that you don’t understand it. Hence, the reason for my post.

Lyoto is fighting in classic Shotokan form as can be witnessed by simply watching shotokan competitions on YouTube. Look it up. www . youtube . com/watch?v=4nqbAfzrg-E (Take out Spaces)
Lyoto executes this very punch against Rashad in the first knockdown.

Lyoto was and is, to this day, a competitor in traditional tournaments. The traditional tournament is about not getting hit and maintaining distance that allows you to move in aggressively, only when the time is good.

He translates this to MMA and adds aspects of other things including BJJ and Sumo.

Here is a great video for all to watch regarding Traditional Japanese Shotokan competition…..these guys are scary fast and powerful. www . youtube . com/watch?v=gkGP0AM14F0
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To close this out, I am not suggesting the Shotokan is the end all martial art…. It takes the right person that can put it all together and ultimately use it. When you see the videos you will see that he is doing exactly what he has been doing most of his life in all of the other competitions, he now has learned to apply it and do the “real deal” in the UFC. My hats off to him and it IS nice to see his Traditional Karate style prevail the way it has. He will be hard to knock off the top – ultimately he will, everyone does….sooner or later.

OSU

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Rashad did do a lot of wrestling in that fight…He pinned the mat down in the 2nd Round…lol….

@ fognack

What an idiot! Did you watch the fight? Did you consider all the circumstancies?
You talk about Sam Greco like he was a tomato can. The guy is an elite striker from K-1 Old School and he was heavier than Machida. Also Machida didn’t run away from trade punches against him. He didn’t hold the fight in the ground, he faced Greco’s striking with his own striking skills.
Greco could be fresh to MMA but he was already a vet on professional fighting, in other hand Lyoto only had karate tournaments and four fights in MMA (with a KO over Rich Franklin).
Finishing, Lyoto is 100x more skilled than that time you should know that.

I’m not saying he is unbeatable but you’re just underrating his acomplishments. Get a life.

TITO ORTIZ did better VS Machida WTH? im kinda pissed Rashad lost……anyone think Rashad should of wrestled more?

If Dana fuckin White knows anything about making money, he’d be thinking about a SUPER match between Machida and Anderson Silva. I’m more interested in this than a GSP Silva fight.

I reckon its gonna take someone with wild hands and power to beat machida..Like wandy in his prime..not saying wandt could beat but would have a better chance than a stand off counter fighter..maybe Rampage can do the job?

Rashad’s gameplan looked just like I thought I would. I knew he wouldn’t shoot his wad trying to take Lyoto down, not in the first 3 rounds anyways. I was just curious to see how Machida would react when fighting some one who was going to force him to be the aggressor. I knew he had the talent, but I sure didn’t think he would heat up so early in the fight. I figured he’d wait till round 4 or 5 to really start pressing. And even then I was unsure how effective he’d be (A lot of counter-strikers either struggle or fight sloppy when they’re forced to press the action).

I was so excited when Lyoto came to the UFC… then I was bummed when he fought so reservedly that he couldn’t even put guys like Sam Hogar and David Heath away. But his last two fights have really shown what he’s capable of and I hope he keeps it up. He has the talent to be the most dominant 205 ever, and I can see him holding the belt in that division for long time. I just hope he stays aggressive and keeps showing his true potential in the ring. If he does that, he’ll be worth the PPV price, every time.

Wanderlei vs Machida… we will see if he can take a punch all right…

Anyway..hes fighting rampage next right? wonder when that will be? 4 months from now nowing Dana ‘child molestor eyes’ White.

Ok Enough talk of Aderson/Fedor Vs Machida……. ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

Who do we honestly think in LH can give him a run? Ok well Rampage is next and he could knock Machida the fuck out with one of his punches…..just as Evans could have…the problem is conecting…..
There is also Shogun if he can stay fit and string together a few more wins….infact! that would be an awsome fight if he can get back to his best! and he is still young! the other person that comes to mind is CroCop…He is coming back to the UFC….He would need to string together at least 3 wins againt good apoinents…
Anyway i thing the best bets are Rampage if he can conect, or Shougun if he can stay fit! But Machy will still be the fav!

i want silva to work his way up the LHW division and fight machida, but im scared the universe may implode.

Lyoto has another huge advantage on top of his quickness, unique style, and incredible technique.

He is now the champ.

And nobody can out-point him over 5 rounds. He’s never lost a round on a judges scorecard.

So that means anybody who wants to dethrone him now HAS to come after him or get picked apart on points. And that just plays into his counter-attacking style perfectly.

The dragon is no joke.

@ Than

dude, do you think BJ Penn would have beat GSP if he didnt have Greg Jackson strategizing the fight? I honestly would say that under any circumstances GSP would beat BJ Penn, even if we could magically shrink GSP to a size that would be an even match for Penn. GSP takes that fight 99/100 times. Also, the strategy of smothering a dude against the cage to nullify his jiu jitsu wizardry is hardly a recent development. Couture has done that since ’99 and won championship belts like renewing his drivers license.

also, I would even argue wether GSP is a “Greg Jackson fighter.” GSP has only recently within the last year or two joined forces with Jackson. His influence is great, but I bet soon GSP will switch camps(possibly join Machida?) whereas Evans will be with Jackson long after he retires from the UFC, which will be a long time, cuz dude has skills and no way will this be his last title bout.

The fight went exactly as I called it, but I bet on 3rd Rd. Oh well. Anyway, Lyoto threw Tito around like a rag-doll & you thought Rashad’s wrestling would pose a problem for Lyoto? What were you smoking?

Good stuff like usual.
It’s strange how Anderson seems to be in Tim Silvia land now and not wanting to finish fights especially against fighters he knows are barely in his league.
I don’t see Machida as cocky as a Silva.
So I can’t see him drinking his own Kool-aid(hype)…the piss he drinks is 100% humble juice. If you can stop Machida from drinking that yellow juice you might have a shot a slaying the elusive dragon.

After I realized he was still alive…I’m sorry to say I did enjoy watching the showboat get sent to 7th heaven.
It was one of the ruffer KO I have seen. At least One of the top 10 KOs of all time.

Its up there… lol

I agree…

I see this as well.

“soooo, where does this put machida on the P4P list??”

about 3 fights with top 5′ers away from consideration.

@Dojima:
“Is Greg Jackson’s master of strategy title a bit suspect after his numero uno champione got handily destroyed with seemingly little effort?”

No…I would argue GSP is Jackson’s “numero uno champione” if he has one. Look at the GSP vs. Penn II fight from January. Jackson and Winklejohn devised an awesome (and oddly scientific) game plan that totally demoralized and negated BJ Penn, a truly great (lightweight) champion. Now, I had a lot of confidence in Machida in this fight, I knew Jackson and Winklejohn would devise a better game plan than most people, but they are not magic and ultimately it is down to the fighter to carry through with the game plan. Amazingly, now that Machida is turning into a badass finisher it will be even harder to figure him out.

“Just a few fights ago Machida was Tim Silvia………”

That is perhaps the stupidest line ever typed in the English language.

Proof….that the Universe is indeed moving towards complexity

I guess this should be compared to the Tim Sylvia effect of getting the belt around your waist. That’s what worries me about this situation is now that Machida has the belt he may no longer need to press the action just like Anderson Silva. Just a few fights ago Machida was Tim Sylvia…….a lot of short-term memory motherfuckers on here.

I wonder how bad rashad’s wife was screaming for that? or was the bitch finally shut up?

soooo, where does this put machida on the P4P list??

So dumb how people are hating on Anderson. Including whichever Ben wrote this. It is clear that Cote and Leites arent number 1 contenders and are no where near the skill level of Anderson. You guys jump to conclusions and shit because of two fights against two mediocre opponents. Maybe talk about Anderson if he does bad against Forest. But he aint, hes gonna whoop some ass. So stop hating, fuckers. Its annoying as fuck because there is no logical reasoning behind any of your guys’ arguments that Anderson aint good or whatever.

i love it! there’s nothing like seeing that cocky bastard knocked out. good fighter, but his ass got served a slice of humble pie. for someone that many considered to be the best light heavyweight in the world, he was completely dismantled.

I dont have a copy of the fight to refer to, cock.

You know what else is spooky… the moth that land on Machida’s shoulder after the fight, kind of prophetic maybe…

kempo666, 1-2-3 circular jab charging combo ??

stop trying to sound professional by quoting the street fighter instruction book alright,the time and round would do just fine!!

Machida owned Rashad but really…. (not that it would have made a difference) Rashad barely threw a punch anyway, when he did he was off by a mile but still…. barely threw anything.

Despite the destruction of Evans by Machida, and the lackluster performances by Silva and opponents… I still believe that Silva would beat Machida, a shame they won’t match up unless one of the two sets out to prove that they’re the best. Will always be a possibility if either gets offended by media outlets praising the other fighter.

Hope it happens, and always a Silva and GSP fan.

This fight is going to do wonders for Rashad. I dont like him personally but he is a phenomenal fighter. Catching that L last night is going to humble him, and I think its going to make him a better fighter and not the T.O. of MMA. Machida is just on another level, which will eventually turn him into the Anderson Silva of LHW, they arent going to find anyone that can compete with him, and they’ll just start tagging people with the “No. 1 contender tag” far too early (as they did with Thales Leites), and his fights are going to go the way of Silvas last two.

So now can I get a freakin’ Machida t-shirt somewhere?? I’m about to make one of my own like that dude Ben met in Vegas…

That didn’t look like no 5 round snoozer to me…. It went down just like we thought it would with Rashad getting his ass handed to him. I will give Rashad props tho he showed alot of class and gave machida his due when Rogan interviewed him after the fight.

Now all you Rashad fans can stfu for a little while, give Machida his due and hope you’re boy can mount some kinda comeback in the future. Damn that was a SWEET knock out!

How scary is it to combine his elusiveness with aggression now? I do have to give credit to Rashad for, despite being destroyed, being the only person to not look absolutely silly, and for landing a clean punch. Rashad stuck to a gameplan that proved to be ineffective, and took a massive amount of damage. But damn, against that Machida, I don’t see any LHW standing a chance.

I also noticed that instead of “Shotokan” karate they are calling his style “Machida” karate. Probably more accurate since I dont see any of the ridiculously wide stances and exaggerated pulling-the-striking-arm-WAAAY-back of Shotokan in his style.

Can’t get enough of seeing Rashad get his clock cleaned. Fucking beautiful.

after a second watch this morning(love Yahoo! Sports and my widescreen puter) as amazed as I am at Machida and his total devastation, I am equally disappointed by Evans performance… After hearing them once again build up Rashad as a feared champion who will bring a new element to his game and a set gameplan to deal with Machida and his Bruce Lee-ness, I saw none of that. Twice, only the first time I was blinded by sheer awesomeness of Machida and only really noticed the lack of anything remotely resembling the hype of the feared Jackson gameplan machine that Evans was suppose to have in store. It really was a pitiful performance on his part, because it looked as though he thought he was gonna dance around and throw bombs like he was fighting another Liddell or Griffin, which Lyoto clearly is not. Is Greg Jackson’s master of strategy title a bit suspect after his numero uno champione got handily destroyed with seemingly little effort? Or is karate the Sloth of MMA’s old restaurant that houses the treasures of One-Eyed Willie?

Styles make fights…. Franklin (for example) attacked Silva forcing Silva to destroy him. The last few fighters to face Silva have tried to make Silva the aggressor and I’m not sure its his… thing. Two counter punchers is a boring fight… just as two aggressive fighters usually means KO.

PS I hate Dana White.

I also want to see a GIF of that awesome 1-2-3 circular jab charging combo that seemed to signal the beginning of the onslaught…. it was so fast I almost missed it.
Maybe he has been using that cool circular punching trainer that Dana was playing with in the video blog.

I can’t believe that machida was able to completely destroy evans in the way that he did. Kinda hard for me to doubt him anymore after that one.

I personally think that Silva is bored (if not burnt out)with the whole UFC thing. His early retirement plans are further proof of this. The question is how long before Machida starts getting bored with beating down one after the other challenger? Lets hope he can keep an interest.

I think I actually like the first .gif better…sweet combos.

No, his lights were finally out and it was clear. Not too difficult to recognize.

Really?? Silva has 2 lack luster fights and already with the questions about his his ability to finish and will to win….give him a chance to fight someone of quality and worth again and once that happens start coming to conclusions….the difference between Rashad and Thales was that Rashed didn’t drop to his ass every time Lyoto pressured which gave Lyoto a chance to continue landing strikes. Lyoto also would not be hesitant to jump on Rashad as he could likely handle him on the ground quite easily, especially from the top. Silva was just being smart…after all, why jump into the gaurd of someone with such good BJJ to potentially lose a fight ….just a thought as I am sick of all the Silva hater’s lately.

Was anyone else impressed by how Machida stopped?

There was no extra punch for good measure, it was like he knew exactly which punch it was that was going to put Evans down.

That’s spooky.