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He Said, Crazy Russians Said: M-1 Denies Reports of $30 Million UFC Offer

Fedor Emelianenko M-1 Global
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Now that we’ve established that Fedor Emelianenko will probably never fight in the UFC as long as M-1 Global has anything to say about it, we can finally focus on arguing over what the UFC’s revised offer, which he wasn’t going to accept anyway because it didn’t involve co-promoting events with M-1 Global, actually looked like.  Thank God, right?  Contrary to reports that Fedor was offered $30 million for six fights in the UFC, M-1’s Joost Raimond says it was nowhere near that, telling Sherdog’s Loretta Hunt that “five-million (per fight) is way, way, way out of range. Half of that is even way out of range of what they offered.”

He goes on to insist that they’ve had more lucrative offers from other companies, that there were “a number of provisions” involved with the UFC’s offer to give M-1 a cut of the pay-per-view, that he would have been cleared to do Sambo tournaments, and that M-1 apparently wasn’t won over by the UFC’s concession to allow him to wear all the M-1 themed crap he could fit on to his body.

“That’s like telling someone they’re allowed to eat,” said Raimond.  Oh, Joost.  Let me tell you a little story about a company named Affliction.

Long story short, we can’t believe what M-1 says any more than we can believe what alleged UFC mouthpieces say, so we’ll probably never know for sure what the UFC’s offer to Fedor was.  What we can probably feel pretty sure of was that it involved the word ‘million,’ it made some concessions to M-1 Global, both financial and otherwise, and that they aren’t going for it unless they get to be co-promoters.  Forgive us if we still conclude that M-1 Global is the unreasonable party here.

The Russians were supposedly dismayed at the online backlash to yesterday’s news, however, which at least means they’re aware that public opinion is turning against them:

“Sometimes the fans don’t realize that there is a business to run and all these statements, ‘These M-1 idiots, why don’t they just give Fedor to the UFC because they’ve offered him the best money?’ This is a completely unsubstantiated rumor that the UFC has offered the best money for Fedor ever. This is just not the case.”

First of all, the fans are never going to support you for getting in the way of their dream fights, and let’s be real, Fedor vs. Lesnar is the biggest fight out there for him right now.  As for the financial issue, if that’s the case why not go ahead and sign with whoever’s offering you the most money and be done with it?  At least that would be something we could all understand.  

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bobroode- November 16, 2011 at 5:55 am
So glad this didn't happen, this guy is clearly past his prime. I am waiting to see him fight Lesnar still.
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Stevenamck65- August 1, 2009 at 3:00 am

One Two Says:
Thu, 07/30/2009 - 22:37

Why isn't everyone bitching and calling brock a douche for not leaving the UFC to fight Fedor? its the same argument only hes actually lower on the totem so it makes sense brock should be coming to fedor not the other way around. I keep hearing "he doesn't want to fight the best" HE IS THE BEST AND IF PEOPLE WANTED TO FIGHT HIM THEY'D QUIT HIDING OUT IN THE UFC. Randy realized this and the UFC fucked him at least he had balls and tried. unlike the rest of the Pussies in the UFC that have never fought fedor and are afraid to.

Its idiots like you that make me angry enuff to post, who the hell "hides" in the UFC? the UFC has undoubtly the the best of the bunch in its ranks right now.

fucking idiot.

The other question is, in a 6 fight contract who "would" Fedor actually fought apart from Brock?
glenwo2- July 31, 2009 at 8:18 am
One Two Says:
Thu, 07/30/2009 - 22:37
Why isn't everyone bitching and calling brock a douche for not leaving the UFC to fight Fedor? its the same argument only hes actually lower on the totem so it makes sense brock should be coming to fedor not the other way around. I keep hearing "he doesn't want to fight the best" HE IS THE BEST AND IF PEOPLE WANTED TO FIGHT HIM THEY'D QUIT HIDING OUT IN THE UFC. Randy realized this and the UFC fucked him at least he had balls and tried. unlike the rest of the Pussies in the UFC that have never fought fedor and are afraid to.

>>> You are absolutely 1000% retarded. You're telling me that Brock should leave the UFC and all the shitload of money he's making just to fight Brock in a two-bit mafia-driven promotion? I wish Brock would come to your house and F-5 you into the afterlife, you stupid assclown.

(or even better..BROCK-SMASH your skull into little tiny pieces)...

So no. It DOESN'T make sense that Brock should be going to Fedor instead of the other way around. I mean...WHO THE FUK IS FEDOR TO DEMAND THAT SORT OF "Respect"??

Oh and Fedor is NOT the Best. I'm sorry but beating over-the-hill UFC guys and tomato cans to beef up your record does not make you the best. IMO, the Best MMA fighters(plural) are Machida, GSP, and BROCK "That's a Sword on his Chest, Morons" LESNAR.
Hum Deez Nutz- July 31, 2009 at 6:30 am
Fedor is a big pussy.
LoneWolf- July 31, 2009 at 6:22 am
All M1 has to offer is unreasonable idiots! They obviously could give a shit about Fedor, and the fans. Lesner would be Fedors biggest test right now, and the UFC has what he said he wants...."quality opponents" More like the best in the biz. Eh whatever...Eff M1.
Fight Fan- July 31, 2009 at 5:05 am
Chri534. Says:
Fri, 07/31/2009 - 03:53

Who do you suggest we go to for analysis?

You could try to do your own, but I would suggest you first wait for the facts to come out, because analysis without facts is speculation, and you already get plenty of that here.
Fight Fan- July 31, 2009 at 4:57 am
Two of the smartest posts I've every read here...

leonard cohen Says:
Thu, 07/30/2009 - 20:32
fuck the ufc anyway. fedor was fighting cro cop and minatauro when the ufc had sylvia and arlovski fighting eachother every month. im not about to be a cheerleader for the ufc just cause i want to see the best fighter int he world fight brock lesnar.

bleve Says:
Thu, 07/30/2009 - 20:39
"...say, so we’ll probably never know for sure what the UFC’s offer to Fedor was."

You guys never did know, you heard crap from one of Dana's sources and you guys printed it with all the emotion of a scorned adolescent girl.

You might want to try to put things in perspective instead of riding the UFC's jock so much. Fedor owns a huge part of M-1 Global and obviously has goals of spreading mma in russia. He's not as stupid as you guys portray him.

We find out that 30 million wasn't even close to what the UFC was offering... and even if it was, if he's part owner of M-1, that could be peanuts to what the company could make down the line.

You guys should stick to the sarcasm and jokes and leave the analysis to people who aren't routinely giving Dana White and the UFC rim jobs.

Thanks for the common sense guys.
Seoul Brother- July 31, 2009 at 3:20 am
@bleve: I never said that he was anything remotely resembling a diplomat for mma. He is an uncouth, juvenile bastard, but he is still a ruthless businessman, and I have made jokes about him being a poor man's Lex Luthor on more than one occasion. I agree with you - he is a bad diplomat, but he is the one driving force that brought mma out from the shadows in the US.

You're also right about his unfortunate habit of reacting before he thinks. He is a bully, and it doesn't speak well for what or how he's going to be perceived by others. He could be seen as Vince McMahon or Eric Bischoff with less hair.

This doesn't detract from his desire to see either his company, his ego, or very possibly both grow at the same time. It may have the effect of bringing a lesser known (but deserving) fighter into the spotlight, and hopefully we will see mma fighters from all over the world. That's the goal, right? If there is ANY organization trying to pull this off, they better goddamned be able to do it well or they're going to be remembered in the same breath as the IFL.

I would respectfully disagree with you strictly in theory about your assessment of whether or not the rest of the world doesn't know who the UFC is. If there's one thing that Dana White has done well, it's increase "brand awareness." How many "Pride F/C" video games have there been? Why hasn't FEG brought more of a presence for K-1 Hero's to the US? I know from personal experience that even if there's a subculture level market for a product, it will take a long time before that product gets legitimately recognized. This is in part the licensor's fault if they don't understand demographics, or if they don't see how well their product is going to be received. If they lack the infrastructure to bring their product to a foreign market, that's not necessarily their fault if: a) they admit & acknowledge their size in relation to an 800-gorilla competitor; b) they try to grow; and c) they don't act like a bunch of snippy, delusional idiots about how large they are or how impressive their product is.

If as you say M-1 has a bargaining tool, that tool is only as good as how it's going to be used and if it's going to be used. Fedor Emelianenko's recent opponents were beneath him and his skill. They were for the better part embarrassing, and what I saw was M-1 bitching about contract points with Zuffa, and this was the list of his opponents on his terms: Matt Lindland, Choi Hong-Man, Tim Sylvia, and Andrei Arlovski. Were these guys the best fighters that M-1 could find for Fedor Emelianenko? That's kind of sad.

Having only one promoter in MMA does more harm than good for MMA, but that's not Zuffa's fault. I would love to see other organizations compete in aggressive markets like the US. I've been an MMA fan much longer than I've been a UFC fan.
just some dong- July 31, 2009 at 2:13 am
Chri534.- July 31, 2009 at 2:02 am

-Yes, I believe there are a lot of people out there that would like to see him prove himself against current top competition. The simple fact that he doesn't duck fights means nothing in this case.

-Yeah, but Cro Cop is only about two years older than Fedor and Big Nog is only about three months older. That is why I asked whether or not you were also implying that Fedor is no longer in his prime.

Edit: You also forgot to tell me who you see Fedor fighting in the next year or two.
rokabee- July 30, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Someone at the UFC needs to scan that contract and put it on the internets (assuming it was legit), than everyone would know that M-1 is just using Fedor to benefit themselves. Crazy Russian Bastards.
Chri534.- July 30, 2009 at 11:23 pm

Who do you suggest we go to for analysis?
Jay Smith- July 30, 2009 at 10:51 pm
@ Chri534
You made me lol too :)
Chri534.- July 30, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Hahahahaha "Hiding out in the UFC"
leonard cohen- July 30, 2009 at 10:38 pm
id almost prefer he doesnt get in the ufc. dana white shouldnt get everything he wants and if fedor can help rival them in strikeforce then good for everyone. everyone was hating on fedor for his lack of competition a year ago and after two first round knock outs of the ufcs former top two guys, people are still saying he aint shit. i wouldnt mind if he was the main event of a couple strikeforce cards fight werdum and brett rogers. overeem would have absolutely no shot. lets not forget that dana white is a fucking dipshit and the ufc is trying to be a monopoly and treats a lot of fighters like shit.
One Two- July 30, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Why isn't everyone bitching and calling brock a douche for not leaving the UFC to fight Fedor? its the same argument only hes actually lower on the totem so it makes sense brock should be coming to fedor not the other way around. I keep hearing "he doesn't want to fight the best" HE IS THE BEST AND IF PEOPLE WANTED TO FIGHT HIM THEY'D QUIT HIDING OUT IN THE UFC. Randy realized this and the UFC fucked him at least he had balls and tried. unlike the rest of the Pussies in the UFC that have never fought fedor and are afraid to.
bleve- July 30, 2009 at 10:20 pm

You're the one stating that he has something to prove. All I'm saying is that what you or the average fan thinks unfortunately doesn't mean anything in this situation.

When's the last time Fedor ducked a fight? Fedor would have already been in the UFC back in 2007 if the UFC would have allowed him to compete in Sambo. People act like that was ridiculous request - the guy has been the World Sambo Champion for like 8 years out of the last decade, so it was a big deal, and the chances of him getting hurt were slim compared to an mma match.

Seoul Brother- Dana White is the worst diplomat for mma. When's the last time you heard Fedor and his management call someone a pussy or an idiot when they didn't get their way. Its business so it passes, Dana's done a lot for the sport but a good diplomat, give me a break.

I'm not really sure its a fact that most US fans don't know who Fedor is by now, but what you're missing is the fact that the majority of the world doesn't know who the UFC is. People are blinded by the American perspective and don't realize that there's a huge market out there, why should people just be bowing down to the UFC? M-1 has a bargaining tool, they're being smart in using it. Once again, Fedor owns a big chunk of M-1 Global and is also looking at this from a business standpoint, not a "legacy" perspective.

Chri534, about Crocop and Noguiera - I was saying that when they were in their prime, they were a lot better then than every single heavyweight the UFC has right now, and Fedor beat them.

From a fan standpoint I'd love to see him fight all of the UFC's heavyweights, but from a business perspective I can see where they're coming from and I believe competition and yes, "co-promotion" at times, actually helps the sport.

Look at the US financial system, when there is no competition the workers/fighters get the shit end. Anyone who thinks the UFC having a monopoly on mma is a good thing is blinded by the hype and can't see a bigger picture down the road.

And yes, I think Fedor is at the peak of his prime and within the next two years would be beat if he fought consistently. 32 is old in fight years, this may be the only chance he has to bargain like this.
Chri534.- July 30, 2009 at 9:10 pm

I don't care what Fedor thinks about his legacy. Although he's gone on record stating that he basically would never lose a wink of sleep if he never fought in the UFC, have you ever heard him say that he is also indifferent to whether or not he continues to fight the best fighters in the world? The fact of the matter is, he hasn't been consistently fighting the best fighters in the world for years.

If he does not step the level of competition up, who do you think "any top fighter in the world" will say is the best? ...Speaking of which, who do see Fedor fighting in the next year or two?

I never mentioned money, fame, or Fedor's character.

Yes, Cro Cop and Noguiera have seemed to be fighting below the level that they had been in other organizations, but who knows the true reasons that attributed to this? Are you saying Fedor is no longer in his prime?

I never brought up anything remotely close to dealing with Coleman, so I don't understand the purpose of that statement.

I never mentioned greed.
Jay Smith- July 30, 2009 at 9:07 pm
MAN!!! I hate some of you guys.
Curtis_E_Bare- July 30, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Consider this the 5th "WTH Rasputin" reply. Seriously, Rasputin?!
Seoul Brother- July 30, 2009 at 8:47 pm
If he's not doing it for the money (which I find highly suspect), then he sure as Hell is doing partly for the glory and recognition. Why else would the one sticking point in his negotiations with Zuffa ALWAYS be co-promotion? If he's so humble, why doesn't he become a contender in "The Ultimate Fighter" to show that he can do the grunt work?

If he's a patriot and wants to bring glory and recognition to his country/people/culture/whatever, then bravo for him. I hope he succeeds. I sincerely do. His business partners aren't exactly the best diplomats or businessmen. All I've seen and heard from them is "We'd like to work with you. We really do. But our contract stipulations are non-negotiable."

I agree with you in one part about Coleman. If he can fight, and if he can still kick ass and take names, then more power to him. but if he doesn't have any other financial options, just how is that any different than contenders a fraction of his age who are just coming up with a wife/girlfriend and a bunch of kids? How many times have we heard that a fighter is doing it to support their family?
bleve- July 30, 2009 at 8:36 pm

"Fedor still does have plenty to prove, or at least he should."

The only problem with that statement is that's not what Fedor thinks, nor the majority of top fighters in the world. He's gone on record stating that he basically would never lose a wink of sleep if he never fought in the UFC. The forums and casual fans can say all they want, ask any top fighter in the world and they'll say he's the best.

Fedor does not think like many people and he's a humble, spiritual man. He's not in it for the money or the fame, he's already transcended that and is thinking of his country and his legacy, not as a fighter per say, but what he can offer to his people in the long run. I know its hard for Americans to wrap their head around someone turning down money - they start taunting and jeering and it drives them crazy.

I don't see any UFC heavyweight who's even near where crocop or noguiera were when they were in their prime - when Fedor handled them.

Maybe its just me, but to see Coleman out there fighting, even if he's winning is kind of sad. It doesn't say that he's a "warrior", it says that he has no other financial options.

I'm glad they're fucking with the UFC because I honestly don't believe its out of greed.
Seoul Brother- July 30, 2009 at 8:17 pm
@bleve: you're absolutely right that part of M-1's goals is to tap virtually untouched markets in every corner of the world. The same could be said about BodogFight, the IFL, Zuffa, and Strikeforce. Out of these four, only two are still viable. All of these organizations have or had the reach to get fighters from other global markets, but piss poor infrastructure, management, and a number of other factors killed BodogFight and the IFL.

Right after Pride F/C fell on their own wakizashi, one of the big questions was what was Fedor Emelianenko going to do? That was two years ago. Two years, and he's fought a total of 4 opponents. Arguably only Andrei Arlovski and Matt Lindland were worthy to go toe to toe with him. That's a pretty shitty record for 4 years of work. So what if he won those 4 fights? He could have phoned in most of those fights. And so what if he was supposed to fight Josh Barnett? He's gotta be pissed that his "friend" is going back to kayfabed matches. It doesn't look good for him, and it sure as shit doesn't look good for MMA. Remember - you're only as good as your opponents.

He has a great record in parts of the world most US fans haven't heard of. This isn't his fault, but when you're banking on a list of highlights from "back in the day" as opposed to fighting quality opponents all the goddamned time, and when your management team has the business acumen of a sebaceous cyst, it's time to reevaluate where you stand. I'd love to see more fighters from Russia, China, and India. We're definitely seeing more ethnic groups represented in the UFC (and no, I'm not saying that UFC=MMA). Like a lot of MMA fans, I go to several different websites for news. No offense to Ben, but only a fool would get his news from one source. I haven't heard one goddamned word about M-1 that didn't involve Fedor Emelianenko. I haven't heard about how they've discovered an Indian wrestling sensation, or how they've found a sanshou champion.

I'm sick and tired of hearing about how good Fedor is. Put up, shut up, or remain a delusional bastard. Fedor & M-1 are not only delusional, they're bitter, pathetic, and not worth the time Dana White spends pinching a loaf. I'm not a UFC fanboy, and I don't think much about certain things Dana White is doing with the UFC, but I know that if it weren't for his zeal, we'd still be bitching about who was better - Ken Shamrock or Tank Abbott.
asswipe jones- July 30, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Fuck Fedor... He is a jackass pussy and wants to fight chumps for the rest of his life. DW do not offer this overrated motherfucker another dime.. He isnt worth it... Hes waiting and waiting. Eventually, he will be out of his prime and retire undefeated. fuck em. Fedors probably at a buffet in russia somewhere....
Streitigkaiser- July 30, 2009 at 7:59 pm