(Ice cream cones for everybody!)
Now that we’ve established that Fedor Emelianenko will probably never fight in the UFC as long as M-1 Global has anything to say about it, we can finally focus on arguing over what the UFC’s revised offer, which he wasn’t going to accept anyway because it didn’t involve co-promoting events with M-1 Global, actually looked like. Thank God, right? Contrary to reports that Fedor was offered $30 million for six fights in the UFC, M-1’s Joost Raimond says it was nowhere near that, telling Sherdog’s Loretta Hunt that “five-million (per fight) is way, way, way out of range. Half of that is even way out of range of what they offered.”
He goes on to insist that they’ve had more lucrative offers from other companies, that there were “a number of provisions” involved with the UFC’s offer to give M-1 a cut of the pay-per-view, that he would have been cleared to do Sambo tournaments, and that M-1 apparently wasn’t won over by the UFC’s concession to allow him to wear all the M-1 themed crap he could fit on to his body.
“That’s like telling someone they’re allowed to eat,” said Raimond. Oh, Joost. Let me tell you a little story about a company named Affliction.
Long story short, we can’t believe what M-1 says any more than we can believe what alleged UFC mouthpieces say, so we’ll probably never know for sure what the UFC’s offer to Fedor was. What we can probably feel pretty sure of was that it involved the word ‘million,’ it made some concessions to M-1 Global, both financial and otherwise, and that they aren’t going for it unless they get to be co-promoters. Forgive us if we still conclude that M-1 Global is the unreasonable party here.
The Russians were supposedly dismayed at the online backlash to yesterday’s news, however, which at least means they’re aware that public opinion is turning against them:
“Sometimes the fans don’t realize that there is a business to run and all these statements, ‘These M-1 idiots, why don’t they just give Fedor to the UFC because they’ve offered him the best money?’ This is a completely unsubstantiated rumor that the UFC has offered the best money for Fedor ever. This is just not the case.”
First of all, the fans are never going to support you for getting in the way of their dream fights, and let’s be real, Fedor vs. Lesnar is the biggest fight out there for him right now. As for the financial issue, if that’s the case why not go ahead and sign with whoever’s offering you the most money and be done with it? At least that would be something we could all understand.
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Comments
Thu, 07/30/09 - 03:44
Never listen to a guy called Joost! EVER!
Thu, 07/30/09 - 03:46
Im so pissed at Fedor, i think i could beat him in the ring lol OOPS i mean Cage!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Thu, 07/30/09 - 03:48
m-1 can kiss my ass.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 03:49
Fedor vs brock is only a dream fight for the mentally retarded and WWE fans. fedors gonna do whats best for him. I love watching fedor fight and don't really care where he does it. he'll find quality comp and money wherever he goes. All the haters are douchebags get over it, hes not gonna fight cock chestnar Wah Wah Wah.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 03:49
@ GarethUFC I agree, but in the ring he'd give u a whoppin' because there it's easier to defend your awesome takedowns
Thu, 07/30/09 - 03:54
Who the hell is Fedor supposed to fight outside of the UFC? Yup, that's right... nobody. Bye Fedor, it has been a pleasure watching you fight.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 03:56
Forget about getting in the way of dream fights for the fans...they're getting in the way of Fedor competing against top competition.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 03:59
i wouldnt mind seeing him fight reasonable fighters for a few fights. jeff monson, werdum, overeem, brett rogers, antonio silva, etc. i would still be plenty entertained and any fedor is still better than no fedor.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:02
fuck the ufc anyway. fedor was fighting cro cop and minatauro when the ufc had sylvia and arlovski fighting eachother every month. im not about to be a cheerleader for the ufc just cause i want to see the best fighter int he world fight brock lesnar.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:04
I just can't believe all the hype, bullshit, press, interest or love for ONE GUY. Even if you [wrongly] think he's the best, fans should be excited about the other fighters who're doing their thing. If Tiger Woods never swung another golf club, the PGA would go on. These sports aren't built around one person and I couldn't give two shits if Fedor fights again. Fuck him. God bless you, comrade.... go where you want. Accept what you will. There's too many other fighters and organizations to pay attention to for me to labor over one guy who's more interested in being a headline than a champion. Whatever.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:09
"...say, so we’ll probably never know for sure what the UFC’s offer to Fedor was." You guys never did know, you heard crap from one of Dana's sources and you guys printed it with all the emotion of a scorned adolescent girl. You might want to try to put things in perspective instead of riding the UFC's jock so much. Fedor owns a huge part of M-1 Global and obviously has goals of spreading mma in russia. He's not as stupid as you guys portray him. We find out that 30 million wasn't even close to what the UFC was offering... and even if it was, if he's part owner of M-1, that could be peanuts to what the company could make down the line. You guys should stick to the sarcasm and jokes and leave the analysis to people who aren't routinely giving Dana White and the UFC rim jobs.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:12
Why the fuck is Rasputin hugging it out with Fedor? And I certainly hope that those nutty fuckers at M-1 are reading this: Guys, for being delusional idiots and for fucking up legions of fans hopes and dreams of seeing Fedor fight under reasonable circumstances with some of the best fighters on the fucking planet, I hope you all ram Kalashnikovs up your asses and die miserably. Doing jumping jacks. In a minefield. I don't give two squirts of piss off of Lenin's casket how much the UFC offered. Most of the fans won't see the kind of money that Dana White gets out of bed for. We just want to see good fights, AND NOT a bunch of whiny greedy backroom bitches. Fedor may be a good fighter, but I don't think I'm the only MMA fan that's getting fed up with all the bullshit between M-1 and the rest of MMA. This catty melodrama is casting an indelible stain on Fedor. Fuck him, and fuck M-1.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:13
I would still wait a few weeks before I give up hopes on M-1 working something out with Ufc or Strikeforce. That Co-Promotion sounds like some trash though. You can brand Fedor with a big M-1 Tattoo and all the gear he wears as he walks into the cage. I'm sure M-1mob would give in if you offered Fedor 5Mill a fight rofl but UFC isn't that crazy. I'm sure they could do it if they wanted to. Just putting M-1 on the Mat and saying its 3 times during the PPV isn't cutting it right now....but it should. After Fedor fights in UFC win or lose M-1 could make tons of cash!
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:14
If M-1 is the tits when it comes to MMA, why not just start a rival promotion to the UFC? Oh, right because they don't have the balls.. or money.. to do that. Too bad, that happening and inevitably crashing would be the fastest and surest way to get Fedor in the Octogon once and for all ..if he's not too SCARED that is! BOCK BOCK BOCK BOCK BOCK!!! [said while flapping arms]
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:16
PS - notice how quiet the UFC is...STILL? There must be some offer on the table waiting for them... for when they come to their senses.. If there weren't, there'd be (new) clips of Dana calling these guys retards. Instead of just the rest of us saying it.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:16
@NickDiazSaysSmo... Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 15:48 m-1 can kiss my ass. and Suck my dick, everyone! -Kenny Powers
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:21
M1 is worthless. Without a larger better promotion to piggy back on (i.e. affliction, strikeforce, ufc) they are nothing. That's why they push so hard for co promotion. All the Affliction events were branded as "Affliction MMA and M1 Global presents...." but when Affliction finally went under M1 is still standing and looking for a new host to leech off of. I want to see Fedor in the UFC but this is ONE instance where I do not want to see the UFC give in. M1 has done nothing for MMA as far as I can tell, so fuck them.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:23
At the time, Affliction was so big even Jesus made an appearance and even wore an Affliction T-shirt!
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:42
Holy crap Fedor's entourage is big; I'm pretty sure that's Rasputin on his right.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:42
You know at this point......I just don't give a fuck any more. If Fedor wants to let the Fink dickride to the point it's trashing his career, fuck 'em. Go nuts (*tee hee*). I won't believe he's the best heavyweight if he only fights freak shows and wash ups. And by the sound of it, he doesn't give a shit what the fans think anyway - at least, not without Fink whispering it in his ear during whatever late night shenanigans *has* to be going on between those two. And what the rest of the casual fans don't know about Fedor won't bother them either. Apparently, judging by Afflictions measley 3,000 sold tickets a week before the show, there's a chunk of hardcore fans that weren't bothered either. M-1 and Fink are smokin' crack if they think anyone other than the UFC is going to pay top dollar to have Fedor fight in the US. Nobody else is going to go to the trouble of trying to build this guy's profile to make him profitable. What, you think Strikeforce has the cash to do it?
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:46
Amen to Seoul Brother and CJ: If M-1 doesn't want to play ball, fuck them. This should not be about money- I'm sure Fedor has more than enough to survive comfortably and provide for his family for the rest of his life already. This should not be about growing M-1: the UFC is already the only promotion that countries outside their home base give two shits about. This should be about cementing Fedor's legacy and bringing about excellent fights. If I was an athlete my priority would be the fans, not the money (echem Mr. Mayweather Jr). Seriously, I have more respect for Lesnar than Fedor right now because at least he is actually proving himself.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:47
p4p #1 dumbass p4p best fighter we will never know #1 HW Brock Lesner at least he fights the best, Fedor has beaten no one that some dude working Sam's Club could'nt beat.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 04:53
...No one else can pay Fedor... People want to see him fight Lesnar, not freak show fights. Only Japan will pay for that shit... the whole freaking world will pay for Lesnar-Emelianenko.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 05:33
Hey Joost, eat your borscht and fuck off. Finklestein, take a shit in your hand and smack yourself. Fedor, continue to let retards run - scratch that, ruin the last existence of your MMA legacy. I'm guessing M-1 is a sketchy, Russian-mob tied organization and they're blackmailing Fedor to ride his success like a cancer. This shit gets me irate every time I read about these assholes.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 05:35
Fucking Fagglestein.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 05:42
I dont see the UFC offering him this much money again i hope he takes it. Sambo is not going to pay him 30 million for 6 fights or mafia-1. Fedor good luck being in the top ten fighters in the world but never #1 again if you dont take this .
Thu, 07/30/09 - 05:47
some one should put fedor face over this guy face in this video xxx.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ40bwT-0fU&feature=related
Thu, 07/30/09 - 05:48
Does anyone else get the sneaky suspicion that Russian mobsters might have something part in this? Either that or an Oligarch is laughing in a dark smokey room somewhere.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 05:48
That photo is solid evidence that even Fedor can't kill Rasputin. ....maybe Hellboy could, but not Fedor. He's smart to make friends with him.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:02
why is anderson silva wearing a suit? (top left background) And what the hell is he looking at up in the stands thats so interesting?
Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:03
Is that Rasputin?
Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:37
man I so wanted to see fedor rip that super sized penis of Brocks chest and shove it up his rectum. Oh Well Shane don't let me down dude
Thu, 07/30/09 - 06:39
@Chri534. - Sherdog and BloodyElbow at least mix up the perspective and give some alternating opinions. I get the frustration, but don't we get the whiny, jaded, tough-guy teenager vantage point in the comments? American fans are looking at the situation as if Fedor still has something to prove... he doesn't and he could walk away right now and not give two shits what some immature, Dana White wanna be fans think. Fedor is nearing the end of his game and owns a big chunk of M-1 Global. The UFC has done a lot for mma and brought a lot of the North American fans on board, but there are gigantic untouched markets in Russia, China, parts of South America, India... don't forget that some of these places dwarf America in population and economic growth. That's what Fedor and his manager are looking at. So yes, seeing Fedor whoop up on Brock would be interesting, but lets hear some grown up talk once and awhile.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:43
@bleve: Fedor still does have plenty to prove, or at least he should. Yes, he has had the most dominant career of any mma fighter to date and nobody can argue that. But, he is still only 32 years old. He definitely has plenty of time left to compete, and it appears that he plans to. For him to continue his legacy as the most dominant fighter ever, he needs to continue to fight whoever is the best in the sport at the given time. The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of current top competition in the Heavyweight division of mma is located in the UFC. Just look at anybody's fighter rankings and you should be able to recognize this. I understand that there are untouched markets around the world, and the UFC has not only stated many times that it plans to go global, but they have already begun to do so. If Fedor and his management want to go spread their promotion to new markets, they can certainly try to do so. If Fedor and his management think Dana and the UFC are going to help them to do so via co-promotion, then they are batshit retarded. Fedor vs. Lesnar is not the only fight that I would like to see. There are plenty of other fights that would be amazing as well, but it is obvious to me that the only place to make those fights happen is in the UFC.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:48
The UFC isn't the only fighting league in the world. Just a friendly reminder.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:51
Imagine a world where everyone fought in one league hahah... perfect.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 07:59
FEDOR IF YOU WERE A REAL FIGHTER IT WOULDNT EVEN BE ABOUT THE MONEY GO BACK TO YOUR THIRD WORLD SHITHOLE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU CANT HACK IT IN THE UFC WITHOUT RECEIVING A 5 MILLION DOLLAR PAYDAY FOR LOSING. THERE IS A WORD FOR IN RUSSIAN FOR YOU ITS CALLED A 'SWOLICH' AND THATS WHAT YOU ARE!
Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:16
Fuck Fedor... He is a jackass pussy and wants to fight chumps for the rest of his life. DW do not offer this overrated motherfucker another dime.. He isnt worth it... Hes waiting and waiting. Eventually, he will be out of his prime and retire undefeated. fuck em. Fedors probably at a buffet in russia somewhere....
Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:17
@bleve: you're absolutely right that part of M-1's goals is to tap virtually untouched markets in every corner of the world. The same could be said about BodogFight, the IFL, Zuffa, and Strikeforce. Out of these four, only two are still viable. All of these organizations have or had the reach to get fighters from other global markets, but piss poor infrastructure, management, and a number of other factors killed BodogFight and the IFL. Right after Pride F/C fell on their own wakizashi, one of the big questions was what was Fedor Emelianenko going to do? That was two years ago. Two years, and he's fought a total of 4 opponents. Arguably only Andrei Arlovski and Matt Lindland were worthy to go toe to toe with him. That's a pretty shitty record for 4 years of work. So what if he won those 4 fights? He could have phoned in most of those fights. And so what if he was supposed to fight Josh Barnett? He's gotta be pissed that his "friend" is going back to kayfabed matches. It doesn't look good for him, and it sure as shit doesn't look good for MMA. Remember - you're only as good as your opponents. He has a great record in parts of the world most US fans haven't heard of. This isn't his fault, but when you're banking on a list of highlights from "back in the day" as opposed to fighting quality opponents all the goddamned time, and when your management team has the business acumen of a sebaceous cyst, it's time to reevaluate where you stand. I'd love to see more fighters from Russia, China, and India. We're definitely seeing more ethnic groups represented in the UFC (and no, I'm not saying that UFC=MMA). Like a lot of MMA fans, I go to several different websites for news. No offense to Ben, but only a fool would get his news from one source. I haven't heard one goddamned word about M-1 that didn't involve Fedor Emelianenko. I haven't heard about how they've discovered an Indian wrestling sensation, or how they've found a sanshou champion. I'm sick and tired of hearing about how good Fedor is. Put up, shut up, or remain a delusional bastard. Fedor & M-1 are not only delusional, they're bitter, pathetic, and not worth the time Dana White spends pinching a loaf. I'm not a UFC fanboy, and I don't think much about certain things Dana White is doing with the UFC, but I know that if it weren't for his zeal, we'd still be bitching about who was better - Ken Shamrock or Tank Abbott.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:36
@Chri534.: "Fedor still does have plenty to prove, or at least he should." The only problem with that statement is that's not what Fedor thinks, nor the majority of top fighters in the world. He's gone on record stating that he basically would never lose a wink of sleep if he never fought in the UFC. The forums and casual fans can say all they want, ask any top fighter in the world and they'll say he's the best. Fedor does not think like many people and he's a humble, spiritual man. He's not in it for the money or the fame, he's already transcended that and is thinking of his country and his legacy, not as a fighter per say, but what he can offer to his people in the long run. I know its hard for Americans to wrap their head around someone turning down money - they start taunting and jeering and it drives them crazy. I don't see any UFC heavyweight who's even near where crocop or noguiera were when they were in their prime - when Fedor handled them. Maybe its just me, but to see Coleman out there fighting, even if he's winning is kind of sad. It doesn't say that he's a "warrior", it says that he has no other financial options. I'm glad they're fucking with the UFC because I honestly don't believe its out of greed.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 08:47
If he's not doing it for the money (which I find highly suspect), then he sure as Hell is doing partly for the glory and recognition. Why else would the one sticking point in his negotiations with Zuffa ALWAYS be co-promotion? If he's so humble, why doesn't he become a contender in "The Ultimate Fighter" to show that he can do the grunt work? If he's a patriot and wants to bring glory and recognition to his country/people/culture/whatever, then bravo for him. I hope he succeeds. I sincerely do. His business partners aren't exactly the best diplomats or businessmen. All I've seen and heard from them is "We'd like to work with you. We really do. But our contract stipulations are non-negotiable." I agree with you in one part about Coleman. If he can fight, and if he can still kick ass and take names, then more power to him. but if he doesn't have any other financial options, just how is that any different than contenders a fraction of his age who are just coming up with a wife/girlfriend and a bunch of kids? How many times have we heard that a fighter is doing it to support their family?
Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:01
Consider this the 5th "WTH Rasputin" reply. Seriously, Rasputin?!
Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:07
MAN!!! I hate some of you guys.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 09:10
@bleve: I don't care what Fedor thinks about his legacy. Although he's gone on record stating that he basically would never lose a wink of sleep if he never fought in the UFC, have you ever heard him say that he is also indifferent to whether or not he continues to fight the best fighters in the world? The fact of the matter is, he hasn't been consistently fighting the best fighters in the world for years. If he does not step the level of competition up, who do you think "any top fighter in the world" will say is the best? ...Speaking of which, who do see Fedor fighting in the next year or two? I never mentioned money, fame, or Fedor's character. Yes, Cro Cop and Noguiera have seemed to be fighting below the level that they had been in other organizations, but who knows the true reasons that attributed to this? Are you saying Fedor is no longer in his prime? I never brought up anything remotely close to dealing with Coleman, so I don't understand the purpose of that statement. I never mentioned greed.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 10:20
@Chri534: You're the one stating that he has something to prove. All I'm saying is that what you or the average fan thinks unfortunately doesn't mean anything in this situation. When's the last time Fedor ducked a fight? Fedor would have already been in the UFC back in 2007 if the UFC would have allowed him to compete in Sambo. People act like that was ridiculous request - the guy has been the World Sambo Champion for like 8 years out of the last decade, so it was a big deal, and the chances of him getting hurt were slim compared to an mma match. Seoul Brother- Dana White is the worst diplomat for mma. When's the last time you heard Fedor and his management call someone a pussy or an idiot when they didn't get their way. Its business so it passes, Dana's done a lot for the sport but a good diplomat, give me a break. I'm not really sure its a fact that most US fans don't know who Fedor is by now, but what you're missing is the fact that the majority of the world doesn't know who the UFC is. People are blinded by the American perspective and don't realize that there's a huge market out there, why should people just be bowing down to the UFC? M-1 has a bargaining tool, they're being smart in using it. Once again, Fedor owns a big chunk of M-1 Global and is also looking at this from a business standpoint, not a "legacy" perspective. Chri534, about Crocop and Noguiera - I was saying that when they were in their prime, they were a lot better then than every single heavyweight the UFC has right now, and Fedor beat them. From a fan standpoint I'd love to see him fight all of the UFC's heavyweights, but from a business perspective I can see where they're coming from and I believe competition and yes, "co-promotion" at times, actually helps the sport. Look at the US financial system, when there is no competition the workers/fighters get the shit end. Anyone who thinks the UFC having a monopoly on mma is a good thing is blinded by the hype and can't see a bigger picture down the road. And yes, I think Fedor is at the peak of his prime and within the next two years would be beat if he fought consistently. 32 is old in fight years, this may be the only chance he has to bargain like this.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 10:37
Why isn't everyone bitching and calling brock a douche for not leaving the UFC to fight Fedor? its the same argument only hes actually lower on the totem so it makes sense brock should be coming to fedor not the other way around. I keep hearing "he doesn't want to fight the best" HE IS THE BEST AND IF PEOPLE WANTED TO FIGHT HIM THEY'D QUIT HIDING OUT IN THE UFC. Randy realized this and the UFC fucked him at least he had balls and tried. unlike the rest of the Pussies in the UFC that have never fought fedor and are afraid to.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 10:38
id almost prefer he doesnt get in the ufc. dana white shouldnt get everything he wants and if fedor can help rival them in strikeforce then good for everyone. everyone was hating on fedor for his lack of competition a year ago and after two first round knock outs of the ufcs former top two guys, people are still saying he aint shit. i wouldnt mind if he was the main event of a couple strikeforce cards fight werdum and brett rogers. overeem would have absolutely no shot. lets not forget that dana white is a fucking dipshit and the ufc is trying to be a monopoly and treats a lot of fighters like shit.
Thu, 07/30/09 - 10:38
Hahahahaha "Hiding out in the UFC"
Thu, 07/30/09 - 10:51
@ Chri534 You made me lol too :)
Thu, 07/30/09 - 11:23
@bleve: Who do you suggest we go to for analysis?
Thu, 07/30/09 - 11:38
Someone at the UFC needs to scan that contract and put it on the internets (assuming it was legit), than everyone would know that M-1 is just using Fedor to benefit themselves. Crazy Russian Bastards.
Fri, 07/31/09 - 02:02
@bleve: -Yes, I believe there are a lot of people out there that would like to see him prove himself against current top competition. The simple fact that he doesn't duck fights means nothing in this case. -Yeah, but Cro Cop is only about two years older than Fedor and Big Nog is only about three months older. That is why I asked whether or not you were also implying that Fedor is no longer in his prime. Edit: You also forgot to tell me who you see Fedor fighting in the next year or two.
Fri, 07/31/09 - 02:13
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Fri, 07/31/09 - 03:20
@bleve: I never said that he was anything remotely resembling a diplomat for mma. He is an uncouth, juvenile bastard, but he is still a ruthless businessman, and I have made jokes about him being a poor man's Lex Luthor on more than one occasion. I agree with you - he is a bad diplomat, but he is the one driving force that brought mma out from the shadows in the US. You're also right about his unfortunate habit of reacting before he thinks. He is a bully, and it doesn't speak well for what or how he's going to be perceived by others. He could be seen as Vince McMahon or Eric Bischoff with less hair. This doesn't detract from his desire to see either his company, his ego, or very possibly both grow at the same time. It may have the effect of bringing a lesser known (but deserving) fighter into the spotlight, and hopefully we will see mma fighters from all over the world. That's the goal, right? If there is ANY organization trying to pull this off, they better goddamned be able to do it well or they're going to be remembered in the same breath as the IFL. I would respectfully disagree with you strictly in theory about your assessment of whether or not the rest of the world doesn't know who the UFC is. If there's one thing that Dana White has done well, it's increase "brand awareness." How many "Pride F/C" video games have there been? Why hasn't FEG brought more of a presence for K-1 Hero's to the US? I know from personal experience that even if there's a subculture level market for a product, it will take a long time before that product gets legitimately recognized. This is in part the licensor's fault if they don't understand demographics, or if they don't see how well their product is going to be received. If they lack the infrastructure to bring their product to a foreign market, that's not necessarily their fault if: a) they admit & acknowledge their size in relation to an 800-gorilla competitor; b) they try to grow; and c) they don't act like a bunch of snippy, delusional idiots about how large they are or how impressive their product is. If as you say M-1 has a bargaining tool, that tool is only as good as how it's going to be used and if it's going to be used. Fedor Emelianenko's recent opponents were beneath him and his skill. They were for the better part embarrassing, and what I saw was M-1 bitching about contract points with Zuffa, and this was the list of his opponents on his terms: Matt Lindland, Choi Hong-Man, Tim Sylvia, and Andrei Arlovski. Were these guys the best fighters that M-1 could find for Fedor Emelianenko? That's kind of sad. Having only one promoter in MMA does more harm than good for MMA, but that's not Zuffa's fault. I would love to see other organizations compete in aggressive markets like the US. I've been an MMA fan much longer than I've been a UFC fan.
Fri, 07/31/09 - 04:57
Two of the smartest posts I've every read here... leonard cohen Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 20:32 fuck the ufc anyway. fedor was fighting cro cop and minatauro when the ufc had sylvia and arlovski fighting eachother every month. im not about to be a cheerleader for the ufc just cause i want to see the best fighter int he world fight brock lesnar. bleve Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 20:39 "...say, so we’ll probably never know for sure what the UFC’s offer to Fedor was." You guys never did know, you heard crap from one of Dana's sources and you guys printed it with all the emotion of a scorned adolescent girl. You might want to try to put things in perspective instead of riding the UFC's jock so much. Fedor owns a huge part of M-1 Global and obviously has goals of spreading mma in russia. He's not as stupid as you guys portray him. We find out that 30 million wasn't even close to what the UFC was offering... and even if it was, if he's part owner of M-1, that could be peanuts to what the company could make down the line. You guys should stick to the sarcasm and jokes and leave the analysis to people who aren't routinely giving Dana White and the UFC rim jobs. Thanks for the common sense guys.
Fri, 07/31/09 - 05:05
Chri534. Says: Fri, 07/31/2009 - 03:53 @bleve: Who do you suggest we go to for analysis? You could try to do your own, but I would suggest you first wait for the facts to come out, because analysis without facts is speculation, and you already get plenty of that here.
Fri, 07/31/09 - 06:22
All M1 has to offer is unreasonable idiots! They obviously could give a shit about Fedor, and the fans. Lesner would be Fedors biggest test right now, and the UFC has what he said he wants...."quality opponents" More like the best in the biz. Eh whatever...Eff M1.
Fri, 07/31/09 - 06:30
Fedor is a big pussy.
Fri, 07/31/09 - 08:18
One Two Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 22:37 Why isn't everyone bitching and calling brock a douche for not leaving the UFC to fight Fedor? its the same argument only hes actually lower on the totem so it makes sense brock should be coming to fedor not the other way around. I keep hearing "he doesn't want to fight the best" HE IS THE BEST AND IF PEOPLE WANTED TO FIGHT HIM THEY'D QUIT HIDING OUT IN THE UFC. Randy realized this and the UFC fucked him at least he had balls and tried. unlike the rest of the Pussies in the UFC that have never fought fedor and are afraid to. >>> You are absolutely 1000% retarded. You're telling me that Brock should leave the UFC and all the shitload of money he's making just to fight Brock in a two-bit mafia-driven promotion? I wish Brock would come to your house and F-5 you into the afterlife, you stupid assclown. (or even better..BROCK-SMASH your skull into little tiny pieces)... So no. It DOESN'T make sense that Brock should be going to Fedor instead of the other way around. I mean...WHO THE FUK IS FEDOR TO DEMAND THAT SORT OF "Respect"?? Oh and Fedor is NOT the Best. I'm sorry but beating over-the-hill UFC guys and tomato cans to beef up your record does not make you the best. IMO, the Best MMA fighters(plural) are Machida, GSP, and BROCK "That's a Sword on his Chest, Morons" LESNAR.
Sat, 08/01/09 - 03:00
One Two Says: Thu, 07/30/2009 - 22:37 Why isn't everyone bitching and calling brock a douche for not leaving the UFC to fight Fedor? its the same argument only hes actually lower on the totem so it makes sense brock should be coming to fedor not the other way around. I keep hearing "he doesn't want to fight the best" HE IS THE BEST AND IF PEOPLE WANTED TO FIGHT HIM THEY'D QUIT HIDING OUT IN THE UFC. Randy realized this and the UFC fucked him at least he had balls and tried. unlike the rest of the Pussies in the UFC that have never fought fedor and are afraid to. Its idiots like you that make me angry enuff to post, who the hell "hides" in the UFC? the UFC has undoubtly the the best of the bunch in its ranks right now. fucking idiot. The other question is, in a 6 fight contract who "would" Fedor actually fought apart from Brock?
Wed, 11/16/11 - 05:55
So glad this didn't happen, this guy is clearly past his prime. I am waiting to see him fight Lesnar still. designer baby furniture
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