(Prof. Fedor‘s freshman seminar on Chaucer, brought to you by St. Petersburg University in co-promotion with M-1 Global. Next week, "The Parson’s Tale"!)
As Mike Goldberg would say, “It is aaallllll over!” The Great Fedor Sweepstakes of 2009 has finally come to an end, and it’s Strikeforce who netted the Russian heavyweight with, according to today’s Strikeforce press release, “a historic, multi-fight agreement that will see him headline mega-events co-promoted by world championship promotions STRIKEFORCE and M-1 Global.”
That’s right, Strikeforce caved to the co-promotion demands that proved to be the immovable object separating Fedor and the UFC. Get ready for lots of awkward speeches from Vadim Finkelchtein and plenty of M-1 Global logos plastered all over the arena when Strikeforce comes to your town. But the big question is, now that they’ve got him what will they do with him?
According to the official release sent out this morning, Fedor will make his debut on Showtime this fall against an as-of-yet unnamed opponent. As far as big men go, at the moment Strikeforce has Alistair Overeem, Fabricio Werdum, and Brett Rogers as their marquee attractions. Since Overeem is currently the champ, we have to think he’ll get the first crack at Emelianenko, assuming he can stay out of nightclub brawls long enough to let his hand heal.
As for how the principal actors in this drama are feeling about things, we’ll let them tell you in their own words, via the press release:
Fedor Emelianenko: “I am looking forward to going back to work and fighting at the highest level. STRIKEFORCE is a top fight promotion that houses some of the greatest fighters in the world. I am prepared to fight any of them." [ed. note: consider yourself officially on notice, Gina Carano.]
Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker: "We are extremely excited to have the opportunity to work with M-1 Global and Fedor. Fedor has been the reigning king of MMA’s heavyweight division for quite some time now so being able to work with M-1 and Fedor will substantially increase the level of competition amongst the athletes in this weight class."
Showtime Sports Senior VP Ken Hershman: "With the addition of Fedor and STRIKEFORCE’s new relationship with M-1 Global, SHOWTIME is now the home of the best pound-for-pound male and female fighters in the world. The Aug. 15 Carano-Cyborg matchup on SHOWTIME will clearly determine the best female mixed martial artist on the planet. Then, come this Fall, our subscribers again will witness history when the universally recognized best male fighter-Fedor Emelianenko-joins the already long list of world-class athletes on the STRIKEFORCE roster, and for the first time ever plies his skills live on SHOWTIME. We are better positioned now than ever before to deliver on our promise to televise the top fighters in mixed martial arts today."
M-1 Global Godfather/President Vadim Finkelchtein: "I am very happy and excited about the upcoming collaboration with Strikeforce. We are very pleased that we found a reliable partner and I feel that Strikeforce and M-1 can support each other on many things. This will create big opportunities for both parties to test their fighters against worthy opponents."
So there it is. Strikeforce officially has the world’s best heavyweight, despite not having a single other big man who is even in the top five of the division. Get ready for a series of fights with increasingly far-fetched attempts at making the challenger seem like a credible threat. At least it’s better than a career’s worth of Japanese freak show fights. New Year’s Eve only comes once a year, thank God.
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Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:14
I think Alistair and Rogers are both just on the outside of top 5. After that I don't know. But there are at least 2 solid possible opponents for Fedor.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:18
Well, I think this will work out perfectly.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:20
This is the end of Strikeforce, they just took the poison pill. Fedor is a joke "fighting at the highest level" does he think I'm an idiot?!?
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:21
Are you kidding, rogers is nothing more than a kimbo slice, with the exception of having more experience. And overeem...please. They are going to have to tell fedor to not attack him for at least 30 seconds to make the fight last longer than the slyvia fight. Boo.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:22
Whhaaaaat? Ummm...I really can't get too excited about this. As already stated, Strikforce does not have the world's best heavyweight division. I like Overeem and Rogers, but after them? Not much else going on. Too bad Strikeforce couldn't have scooped up Rothwell before the UFC did.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:22
i know...im pissed UFC and Fedor couldnt work something out but i dont see ANYBODY right now that can beat him....no matter what org they fight in
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:22
I think if they feed him 2 or more fights a year, there is a chance that someone will catch him with a lucky punch and KO fedor. It will happen sooner or later. Then Fedor will get an immediate rematch and probably win. Fedor said he had 3 fights left on his M1-global contract. I wonder how many fights he has signed for with StrikeForce. So we probably won't see any chance of him going to the UFC until 2011.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:23
I bet Ben Rothwell feels like an idiot right about now.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:23
I knew something was going down when Scott Coker came back from "vacation" with stars tattooed on his knees..
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:24
ohh fuck, now we get to see those nutty russians suck the life out of another promotion. Poor strikeforce, they were doing so well but caving into the demands of M-1 is going to prove a horrible move for them Fedor will end up draining strikforce's assets to the ground since he will probably be getting paid top dollar. Lets sit out and watch the demise of strikeforce. Oh and by the way, FEDOR IS A PEACE OF SHIT AND DUMB FUCKING ASSHOLE for having m-1 manage his career. Does the fucker realize that m-1 is exploiting him. Dude, your stupid brother figured it out, why cant you.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:30
Allistar Overeem isn't a legit threat? Oh yeah Frank Mir is so much of a bigger threat with his way less dangerous striking, being much weaker, and having a ground game that presents no danger to Fedor(yeah cause, if Nog can't come close to submitting Fedor I'm sure Mir could do it...). How is Overeem not a threat he KO'd the best Kickboxer in the world, he has been runing through guys since he started taking protein shakes Lesnar took in his wrestling days and is tough to take down with his size and power. He is the most legit threat to Fedor. BTW Barnett is still #2 and could still fight him. This is the same type of bullshit you guys said about Crocop before he signed with the UFC and just repeated Kevin Iole BS. Fuck this site.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:31
Oh please. This is just like trying to get the attention of the pretty girl by going out with one of her fat, desperate friends to prove how nice you are. It never works.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:32
God sometimes i hate the internet, lets all the haters come out of the woodwork and shout, all the while hiding behind anonymity its not like he doesn't have wins over some of the UFC's heavyweights already Carwin, Velasquez and lesnar would have been his only 3 fights in the UFC anyways. im leaving mir out of this for a reason
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:33
You don't even know shit about his management or what is going on behind the scenes dumb shit. You do realize Fedor knows and has alot of friends who are under M-1 contracts. It's funny how when Randy leaves the UFC you Zuffa trolls attack him for being unloyal to his contract yet when Fedor is loyal to his contract you call him a piece of shit yet Fedor has the well being of other fighters depending on his decision. Fuck you seriously. You have no idea what you are talking about.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:33
As opposed to Big Nog being #3 in the UFC. Go take a look at what Fedor did to Noguiera on youtube, then ask yourself if you think Fedor would really have trouble with Mir or Grandpa Randy. That leaves Lesnar and Carwin as truly viable opponents "in the top 5" and that's giving a lot to Carwin. Overeem and Rogers alone are comparable talents. This is awesome. Have fun whining UFC groupie ho's.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:35
All this negativity seems more like jealousy from the UFC fan boys
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:36
Is it just me or are we gonna see a monopoly soon on mainstream MMA...these M1 Global dudes are gonna milk Strikeforce dry. This is all playin' to DW's money grubbin' hands... Oh well, I cant be mad that I can see Fedor for free now and not on sum bs ppv shit Affliction was on. Hooray for my premium cable package with Showtime.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:36
Goodbye Strikeforce. You will be missed.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:37
I watch the M-1 challenge on HD net they have like 10 teams of 5 guys thats a lot of fighters some of em are pretty decent this will only help Strikeforce.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:38
Rogers is a BAD DUDE and Fedor will have to watch out for his punching power. With that said... he will, and he'll arm/shoulder lock him in the 1st round. Can't wait for this fight, the others not so much.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:38
Rogers is kimbo slice? How the fuck so? He's been on a ridiculous tear. He took arlovski out in seconds. Yeah this will drive heavyweights to strikeforce. It legitimizes their division. And I don't think it will kill strikeforce because of the co-promotion. M-1 now has stake in strikeforce's success. They won't let their one asset bankrupt their company. If not for the co-promotion i would say yeah its a high expense. I remember about a year or two ago people were loving elite-xc and affliction for adding competition to the mma world. Are all those people flipping on that to becoming UFC nut huggers? This may be a very good thing for the sport.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:39
Carwin isn't top 5. I love how Fedor is the one that needs to prove himself by fighting guys that don't even have double digit fights and have yet to fully develope. Yet Lesnar is the already proven vet who's competition ranged from washed up guys Fedor already beat and more unproven guys who have one relevant win where they weren't even impressive in. Fedor- Barnett Overeem Rogers Werdum Cock Chestnar- washed up Crocop washed up Nog Carwin Cain who has the more legit threats?
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:41
@eviltaxiNWO Great points. UFC's PR has completely brainwashed fans, or all these comments are from new fans that have no clue.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:44
@PHELPS: This site is part of UFC's PR.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:50
@bleve I disagree. I enjoy the site but can make my own opinions on whats going on. I was upset about the UFC deal falling through but I completely agree with their decision. No way could UFC co-promote at this point there is zero upside for them. As for strikeforce, it may be the only guarantee they have that they won't implode from making a huge deal with Fedor. I'm curious to see how this will play out. But i have to say its nice to see strikeforce growing. I hope this works for them.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 10:56
Well, fuck Barnett and Atencio. They started this whole conundrum. I dont really care about Fedor coming to the UFC (I do but it got old like a week ago) because he is a pussy letting those commies run shit for him. So I will just watch his fights and not think twice about how cool it would be for him to be in the UFC. Until he signs with the UFC, quit bitching people. You guys aren't going to change shit. And UFC is the best organization, that doesnt mean we are all nuthuggers for watching and enjoying it. Homo's.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:00
Oh good. Fedor can fight an unranked HW for the interim Strikeforce HW belt.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:02
I gotta say that I knew this would happen. This will, I think, actually propel Strikeforce from just being the #2 division in MMA. You can almost see Randy Couture wanting to get out of his UFC contract as quickly as possible. I know that having Fedor against Rogers will bring in the viewership numbers, especially after Grimm beat the hell out of Arlovski, and also the fact that they're not on Pay Per View and the broadcast deal with CBS, Fedor vs. Grimm or Overeem for the title would bring in big numbers. Now Strikeforce is beginning to become a potential threat to UFCs monopoly on the sport, especially because Strikeforce seemingly treats their fighters better and doesn't require sponsors to pay $200 grand a year to sponsor fighters. I think a lot of UFC guys will see better pay days and sign with them when their contracts are up. I see Strikeforce now rivaling UFC within the next year. Just wish Mayhem would sign with them....
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:03
they're? called M-1 for a reason, they have Motherfucking 1 fighter.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:07
I wonder if strikeforce realizes that Fedor isn't really going to draw in any more fans than they already had, and teaming with M1 global will probably hurt them more than help them. I would bet that all the hardcore fans were already following strikeforce, and I can say from personal experience that the casual fans either have never heard of Fedor, or know the name but could care less about watching him fight. I've personally had to explain to many people that never miss a ufc ppv who Fedor is and why he's a big deal, and even then they don't really care. No one really cares about Fedor he is not going to be a huge draw unless he's fighting someone like Brock.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:11
has anyone seen Overeem lately? he's fuckin huge, hes Dutch so you know hes a good striker KO,d Badr Hari. and hes good on the ground fedors the man and I'm going for him but he could actually lose this fight. the last MMA fight i saw overeem in he dominated Cro cop. this fight is way better than an inexperienced brock who everyone knows would've lost to fedor.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:17
Fedor's got 3 more fights on the M-1 deal. At least with Strikeforce and Showtime they'll have him fighting more than once a year which means he can burn up those 3 fights faster and head to UFC if better competition doesn't head to strikeforce first. All you people do is bitch.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:18
@PHELPS: I enjoy the site too, but anyone who reads regularly would have to agree that the coverage/blogging has been completely biased in favor of the UFC in recent months. We can all make our own opinions on what's going on but I think it adds value to the site to hear the other side once and awhile. I can see M-1's perspective- and Fedor owns a big chunk. Diversity in MMA is a good thing, its a new business so competitors are still working on finding ways to challenge the UFC, but this shouldn't automatically be labeled as a bad thing... and competitors will figure it out, give it time. The UFC will learn down the line that they'll have to co-promote... there's too much talent out there. The UFC has Lesnar and yes that fight would be huge, but I think the UFC and their groupies are a little bit disallusioned about the rest of the UFC's top five.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:20
@bleve I agree except for the ufc co-promoting. They really don't need to. They do fine without. Its business to them and they are quite successful and have a lot of steam. They've developed a strong brand and won't jeopardize it.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:23
is someone going to blood test overseem? Fedor is a joke for signing with Strikeforce that is a joke trying to pin their hopes on one guy and one division. Like I tell all my dates, this will not last long.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:24
@Bare Grapple Was your date very sad when you told him?
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:25
Great news. Fedor to Strikeforce was always the second best option for the fans. So he won't be fighting Lesnar in the near future but at least he won't be fighting total cans overseas. And whoever said Carwin isn't top 5 is out of their mind.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:25
UFC groupies hahaha. You are a joke. What are you an affliction groupie? Or better yet a Dream groupie? And yea this site is biased in favor of the UFC for a reason: they are the best. And what journalist or writer isn't biased? Thats quite hard to find.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:28
I'm happy to see Fedor with Strikeforce. Coker has a good head on his shoulders. This is good for fans, good for Strikeforce, good for the fighters, and dare I say, good for the UFC. We don't want the UFC getting too fat and sassy. Having Strikeforce nipping at their heels compel them to keep giving 100%.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:30
Dear God, Please don't let the signing of Fedor be a curse to Strikeforce as it has been to all other promotions he has been a part of. I swear to you i will quit masterbating into the pages of your book.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:36
831 Son: I think any intelligent man should refrain from being a groupie of any organization... you getting paid by the UFC? C'mon man, elevate your mind a little. I find that people that hooray for their "teams" never were athletes themselves. But yeah, unless Break Media has a contract with the UFC, they should mix up the coverage.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:39
UFC is the best league. Period. If Feydor is so great he should have signed on the dotted line. UFC isn't a league? Did you see the NBC report on the UFC? They said LEAGUE ten plus times.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:42
Goddamn, that was funny, greenseed.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:45
I hope they put him against Rogers and he gets KTFO like Andre for all his BULLSHIT but I don't see they happening twice for the Brett " The Michelleen Man" Rogers...Shit I ment Grim but the guy does have a set of moobs
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:47
@Swedish Don't let tv tell you whats going on. Thats the point. Form your own opinion. Its not a league its a promotion. A league generally has a set bureacracy with many rules; a commissioner, board of directors, PLAYERS UNION! UFC has none of this. They do as they please and screw over whoever they need to with zero oversight. yes they are the biggest promotion, but the sport is evolving and competition leads to better shows. I must be arguing with a bunch of 16 year olds. Take an economics course people.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:52
Fedor vs Gina Carano: The one time in MMA history where everyone agrees that the lay-and-pray tactic of putting your face in your opponent's chest and covering up is absolutely, positively the smartest thing for Fedor to do.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:57
Yeah the only downside I see for Fedor is if he gets KTFO by any of Strikeforce's heavyweights in his first fight there. That would send Strikeforce's stock down faster than Affliction went out of business but would elevate whoever knocks him out to superstar status. But then again, this is Fedor we're talking about but it's MMA and anything can happen. Just hope Coker knows how to handle the potential dropoff if that happens, just like how he talked about poor business practices catching up with the promotion. I think Fedor's debut should be for the Heavyweight title in a stacked card that includes Diaz, Carano, Thompson, and Lawler. Just don't pit Fedor against anyone like Bob Sapp or any jabronies who'll tap out to strikes. No one wants to see that.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 12:01
Anyone else see a Fedor vs Overeem match up getting advertised to all hell and end up being cancelled because Allistair tests positive for Roids? I can see a big deja vu all over again moment coming....
Mon, 08/03/09 - 12:05
Fedor doesn't draw ratings in the US. Never has, and neither has any of his M1 comrades. Look at Affliction, they based everything around Fedor, and look at the buys they got for him versus AA, or Sylvia. Without the hype machine of the UFC, Fedor will never be known to the mass of casual fans. Say what you want about Lesnar and the UFC, but look at what they did to Brock in less than 4 fights - they made him a monster that draws monster ratings and huge PPV buys. Name a big name Strikeforce fighter that was MADE by Strikeforce alone? This is the end for Strinkeforce - it'll be a sloooooow bleed?
Mon, 08/03/09 - 12:07
If you leave out lesnar i think this move to strikeforce will provide us with much more entertaining fights. ofcourse everybody wants to see fedor vs lesnar but thats about it. dw giving fedor zero respect and claiming that fedor ducks the best in the world is just sad. he would make the same statements if lesnar wasnt fighting in the ufc. lesnar has 5 fights and is reigning champion of the division. the ufc need some good contenders fast or else their heavyweightdivision will become meaningless. right now i dont see how this move will help the ufc out. even if fedor loses a fight in strikeforce, they added a strong fighter to their hw division and the level of competition will rise.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 12:23
overeem ia going to kill fedor...there i said it
Mon, 08/03/09 - 12:27
What fuck do you have against Fedor CP!??! I just don't get it. In every article it sounds like you respect him less and less. Both Rogers and Overeem are on your top 10 HW list. Fedor beating them would be a lot more respectable than Anderson Silva beating unranked middleweights Cote and Leites. Is Dana White throwing you guys some cash on the side or what?
Mon, 08/03/09 - 12:48
Fuck Fedor i hope they dont destroy STRIKEFORCE now that this CAN fighter is in the SF now. WAY to go fedor you get to fight all the top notch fighters in the world now in SF lol fucking russian mafia homo.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 12:56
werdum, allstar, and rogers and serious contenders better that mir, cain, carwin. Rogers and allstar top ten and werdum should not be far behind. This is a great signing for strikeforce
Mon, 08/03/09 - 12:57
Damn, talk about Fedor, and you have to scroll for ten minutes just to post some shit.................. I forgot what I was gonna say.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 12:59
Man, people have strong opinions on an employment contract. Guess what, we will never know what the UFC offered. It might have been shit. The reported contract offer was just a rumor. So Fedor is gonna be in Strikeforce and we dont get to see our "dream matchup". Thats all it was, idle speculation. I just want to see Fedor fight again. Rogers and overeem are worthy opponents. Plus, maybe they will sign others. The thing is, the UFC is the NFL of MMA. (damn acronyms) They are the big game in town and have successfully bought or run their competitors out. This is not good for MMA in general. There needs to be choices. The UFC fighters have no collective bargaining rights, no guaranteed minimum salary. I watch strikeforce, just as I watch almost every event i see pop up on these sites. They are getting more and more legit. If you love MMA, support them!!!! I want to see more than one MMA event per month.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 01:07
"Both Rogers and Overeem are on your top 10 HW list. Fedor beating them would be a lot more respectable than Anderson Silva beating unranked middleweights Cote and Leites." Yes, but it's not more respectable than Anderson decimating Rich Franklin twice by brutally outstriking him, submitting lutter (bjj world champ) from gaurd, schooling Nate Marquardt and finishing him off with gnp, choking out Dan Henderson, and THEN getting stuck with Cote and Leites because he's crushed everyone else in the division.. and toying with them out of pure boredom. Not to mention moving up in weight to take on a former lhw champ in his next fight.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 01:15
bleve is nothing but an upset Pride groupie who no longer has a home.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 01:34
I hope this has already been said if not here goes (I did not take the time to read throiugh all of the comments 1st) If you guys think that Fedor being in Strikeforce isnt going to lure talent over your crazy. I know for a fact that as soon as Randys contract is up hes going to sprint over to Strikeforce to sign a fight with Fedor. I will again say what I said before how sweet would it be if the UFC and Strikefore/M1(haha) got together and did a unification card where all of the titles would be on the line. Just speculation probably never happen with M1 being in the mix but a boy can dream right. Randy vs Fedor 2011 WAR FEDOR/RANDY.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 01:48
Yawn. Fedor will continue to fight semi-unrelevant HWs while dodging Lesnar, while UFC HWs learn the new lingo to deal with guys of Lesnar's size. In a year Lesnar will either clean out the UFC HW division, or so many guys will be out for his head that Fedor will be really irrelevant. I'm a long time Fedor fan, but any fight he gets in Strikeforce is totally uninteresting to me. The few HWs in Strikeforce that are worth anything (Rogers, and.... uhhh... Overeem? Really?) are just sitting in a splinter organization wasting their time. I don't begrudge a super fan who watches minor league baseball, but don't expect me to give a shit. It's pretty clear the UFC is going to dominate this sport, so the sooner everyone is under the same roof, and able to COMPETE with eachother, the better. MMA's growing pains should be over by now. I'll still be excited if Fedor makes it to the UFC sometime in 2010, but until then... who cares? I don't want to see Fedor fight, I want to see Fedor fight REAL fights, not cans or freak show bullshit.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 01:52
and Chri534 is a UFC ring girl without the salary. Keep reading the forums, there's more and more people with my perspective. You kids don't get it, its about the fighters, not your "favorite organization". Competition means more options and better treatment for the fighters you simple-minded twit.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 02:15
Grats on mediocrity Fedor. I hope they aren't expecting me to buy a single Strikeforce ppv. This whole thing is just a shit show full of Fail & Disappointment. At this point I don't care if Fedor takes out the entire Top 10 Heavyweight list at once in a death match with grizzly bears for 10 bucks. I'm waiting for internet highlights from now on. I'm over Fedor.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 02:19
BOOOOOOOO!!!!! HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
Mon, 08/03/09 - 02:29
Fedor vs. Rogers should be good. Too bad Fedor is a fuckin' fat pussy and wouldn't tell his Jew manager to sign him to the UFC.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 02:34
@bleve: You really don't get it, do you? You are exactly what you think you hate. I've never blindly defended the UFC just because I'm a little fanboy that's new to the sport. I've been a fan of mma for a long time now but for some reason, you think if anyone says anything good about the UFC or it's fighters they're just a new, uneducated fan. You're nothing more than a fucking retard who still jacks off to old Pride events and takes it personal that your favorite organization is gone (and you probably hated the UFC back then because you thought Pride was so unbelievably superior); and the way you see it it's UFC fans vs. true mma fans...that is exactly why you have some truly misguided hatred towards any fan of the UFC. And I've never even said anything remotely close to the idea that having more organizations is a bad thing.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 02:54
No but we do.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 03:02
@Phelps ---- very funny....that must have took you all of two minutes to come up with. Btw have you recently watched "Milk" and got all charged up with this union shit you try to spread? If these guys need a union for making this kind of money per fight they are stupid. In sports you have sponsorships, clinics, gyms, and coaching to make money. If you don't like it, don't do it. Until your union crap tries to make mma like boxing, I will crack a beer every month and enjoy watching fights.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 03:37
Chri534: Wow, I've never had someone lay their whole argument on stuff that was never said. Who the hell is talking about Pride champ? I just said it isn't about one's "favorite organization". The way I see it is that if you're reporting on mma, at least cover it from a few different perspectives, or at least bother to quote the other side. You and your fellow UFC drones just keep stating that Fedor wants to fight cans. He's already beaten two of the UFC's top ten, and there's not many others that pose a more serious threat that Overeem. Fedor owns a large chunk of M-1... so I might be talking on a more complicated, business and realist perspective than you're capable of understanding. And I'm most likely arguing with a teenager so why am I bothering.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 03:54
Fedor signing with Strikeforce seems like he wants mostly one thing or at least his handler do. To get into business with a already decent money making promotion and suck'em dry and when there are no other promotions to F.U.B.A.R. they will come to the UFC and cash the "Fedor Retirement plan". I *hope* Strikeforce gains some traction and can get some tougher opponents. Co-promotion with M-1 so far has been a death wish for any company dumb enough to hand over half the shop and still pay Fedor&M-1Inc. unnecessary stacks of money.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 04:12
@bleve: Sorry, let me make it more clear. My whole argument is that the way you see it it's mma fans vs. UFC fans. You are far more biased against the UFC than anyone here is biased for the UFC in terms of making arguments based on one's "favorite organization" (I use the term "anyone" loosely, because there are a fair share of idiots, as there are anywhere). If your whole argument is purely against the way stories are presented on here by the Ben's, then take it up with them, write an email or something...or better yet, go fuck yourself and stop coming here. And in my opinion, you're giving Overeem far too much credit.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 04:33
Chri534: Hey dipshit, you called me out for being a fan of Pride, something that was never said or referenced. You're simply blathering on about shit you're making up on the spot. You're the one injecting "these fans" against "those fans". I said it was about the fighters and looking at the business from different angles... and yes, mocking you UFC drones that can't come up with an original or intelligent point of view. Fedor owns a big chunk of M-1, which everybody insists of leaving out of the conversation, so its a little more nuanced than "fans", or not taking a rumored amount of money. He's building his stock. Overeem handled Crocop, who gave Fedor one of his toughest fights... you know shit.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 05:39
@bleve & Phelps Will you two please take your gay fucking love affair back to Sherdog. Non one on here gives a shit what you two think, you type opinions that reek of elitism. And why dont you take an economics course and tell me why you would turn down more money for less or why as a successful MMA promotion why you would give M1 half of the profits when they bring basically nothing other than Fedor to the table, whom you still have to pay seperately.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 05:42
And Chuck Liddell handled Overeem bleve, so fucking what! MMA math doesnt work moron.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 06:36
an interesting move. i'm glad he moved to strikeforce. it makes dana white look like a cut-rate don king.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 06:56
@kadumel: I hope you don't get paid to think. Yes, the UFC has a point in not wanting to co-promote, as does M-1 and Fedor in asking for it and trying to grow their stock and future. The reason why someone, or a promotion would turn down money, which by the way no one on this board knows how much was offered, is because they are not short-sighted and thinking of their friggen business, not one fight with Lesnar. You didn't see the contract, so what the hell do you know about what was turned down? Liddell beat Overeem in 2003, Overeem beat Crocop in 2008... you also know shit. Its not elitism, its having a fucken clue. Bust up a UFC circle jerk and people get nasty.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 07:32
With Fedor now in Strikeforce, he can destroy Gina Carrano and you will ALL agree...he IS the best in the world! FINALLY!!!
Mon, 08/03/09 - 07:41
Bleve, you talk too much. Next time try to impose a limit to your responses to a single news article, you might not look like so much of a douche.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 07:52
@bleve Yes its elitism when you come on here and pretend to know more about MMA and MMA contracts than the "teenagers" on here. You dont know shit about MMA and you sure as the fuck dont know why Fedor signed on with StrikeoutForce, nor do you really know why he did not sign with the UFC other than the co-promotion thing. Tell me how Rogers or Overeem is more dangerous than Carwin, Gonzaga, Dos Santos and Velasquez. And dont start your typical bullshit, skill for skill Carwin is better than Rogers and quite possibly better than Overeem. By the way Overeem beat Cro Cop by kicking his nuts into his body, Gonzaga almost took his head off. And I dont care who beat who in what year moron, MMA math still does not work.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 08:11
blah the idiots on here. Don't you all get it??? Us "UFC Fan Boys" want this bad ass mofo to come to the UFC to knock the teeth outa this cocky lensar bastard. Aren't you all just partially annoyed with the fact that this WWF mo fracker is running the show over here. That is what we are mad about, all this trash talking is just anger over the fact that we gotta watch this horse rabbit punch to death all the competition. And please I ain't watching stike force's lame ass production with boxing commentators and all the other bs. UFC is the only guys out there who has figured out how to put on a show with out annoying the shit out of the audience. Okay so Mike is a little annoying but you gotta admit that shits funny sometimes.
Mon, 08/03/09 - 11:30
@bleve: ...and somehow you still have it ass-backwards. I admit that I was "injecting" the idea that you are probably someone who was a die hard Pride fan. At the same time, you are the one who keeps insisting that it was a good move by Fedor to not sign with the UFC (showing your organization bias). Everybody already fucking knows that Fedor owns a part of M-1, that's why it's left out of the conversation (...wait, was that the whole point of your business side of the argument?). Is your statement about Overeem and Cro Cop supposed to legitimize Overeem as a fighter? I know my shit. Please, list Overeem's top ten fights and explain to me why he should be anywhere in the top ten among today's fighters. Oh, and I apologize for not including an immature insult in my post, it must be an unfamiliar concept to you.
Tue, 08/04/09 - 12:33
Stop feeding the trolls please.
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