What I was going to say was sure the HW division is far stronger today than 5 years ago but this sport is so young that that will be the case for a while, fighters are imroving and evolving rapidly. In its heyday Pride had the toughest HW division, Cro Cop and Nog were far from cans, sure they didn’t have as much luck in the UFC but they came over after fighting wars for 7 years. Fedor did start can crushing after Pride wrapped up and should of left M1 to pursue a career in the UFC, his bad, but you can’t discount what he did in his prime, he beat everyone that was put in front of him. My original statement catch up on some Pride still applies, If you had you would not be calling legends cans or over rated. I’m not some nostalic either living in the Pride days, I didn’t start watching MMA till after Pride was axed, but as a fan I watch everything I can get my hands on. Like I said the sport is young so for a long while we will be able to look back 5 years and say man the fighters are way better now, but this does not mean all of a sudden that those fighers were over rated or cans.

oh WTF where did the rest of my post go?

At the time it seemed like Pride had the best heavyweights in the world, but I argue, it was a point in time when the heavyweight division was weak.

Crushing cans and being undefeated for 10 years makes Fedor over rated. He had a couple good fights back in Pride, but look at what happened to his competitors when they transitioned to the UFC. At the time it seemed like Pride had the best heavyweights in the world, but I argue, it was a point in time when the heavyweight division was weak. Name one Pride heavyweight who has consistently fought and won against high level competition. Maybe Big Nog, maybe. Now then, if GSP or Silva lost five in a row, they would not be considered over rated because of the high level of competition they have faced over the years, same with Chocolate Al. A can crusher is a can crusher, no matter how many cans were crushed.

Again you missed my point, I didn’t sit here saying Fedor is relevant in todays landscape. Your statement Fedor is the most over rated fighter in history is idiotic. ‘So do you get high and talk about the good old days, or is talking the good old days your drug of choice? The past is called the past for a reason, cuz time has passed. Just like MMA has passed by Fedor. And my Rua and Hendo are relevant comments were for snakdaddy, my bad for not clarifying that point.’ WTF? Again the only point I bought up with you is the over rated comment, Being undefeated for 10 years while defending the HW belt in the strongest organization at the time means you are not overrated. Listen, Snackdaddy said some stupid shit, then u did, It doesn’t mean one of u is right, you are both wrong. Fighters fall off, Imagine if GSP and Anderson Silva lost their next 5 fights in a row does that mean that they were over rated?, how about Chuck who lost his last 3 by KO, was he over rated?

Todd M, explain how how Fedor is not over rated and still relevant to MMA. Look who he has to fight to hopefully pick up a win, no offense to an aged Jeff Monson, in Russia no less. Maybe years ago Fedor was the man, but not anymore. Doesn’t matter what you say or think, FEDOR is no longer relevant in MMA. So do you get high and talk about the good old days, or is talking the good old days your drug of choice? The past is called the past for a reason, cuz time has passed. Just like MMA has passed by Fedor. And my Rua and Hendo are relevant comments were for snakdaddy, my bad for not clarifying that point. This fight will be a KOTN or FOTN candidate.

@snackdaddy:

1) “a-typical” does not mean whatever you think it means
2) “a-typical” does not have a hyphen in it
3) “Suckerpunch” means “without warning” and Fedor probably expected that entering the cage meant someone was gonna punch him
4) Numbered posts are condescending.
5) Yer an idjit.

I know it’s only Strikeforce but it’s disrespectful to Hendo’s belt that he isn’t coming in to fight the champ. When Pride was absorbed, the Pride champs fought the UFC champs and that unification was great for worldwide MMA as a sport. UFC did a good job of respecting the WEC belts. But no love for Hendo’s belt.

We have Big Nog, Shogun and The Spider knocking fools out. Rampage is swinging for a title Saturday with Mark Hunt & Goku right under him on the main card. An Alistair Overeem fight is the hype for December. Hendo coming back. Vitor has a little dancing with a semi-star coming up. This is not your older brother’s UFC. There is a lot of validation in it for a long time fan of Japanese MMA. No wonder UFC has planned an early 2012 trip to Japan.

Whoa I don’t know where to start but here goes, Fist off read my post, I never said Hendo and Rua are irrelevant, I mocked Snackdaddy for thinking that, then u popped in to show just how little u know about the sport. Your statement that Fedor is the most over rated fighter in MMA history is Moronic, Ignorant and plain laughable to any legitimate MMA fan. As for your personal ‘attack’ I don’t drink so you would lose that bet devil boy

I’m sorry, Pride? Which was how long ago? Todd M, are you the type of guy who drinks and talks about how great you were in high school sports? I bet you are. Pride days have been long gone. Hendo and Rua are relevant fighters in MMA, more so then Fedor is right now, in the year of the good Lord, 2011. Get over Pride buddy.

That’s what I was referring to. I’ll change it up just for you.
Final year engineering projects

@ Snackdaddy, You sir are a moron
@ Texican666, You sir are a moron too, saying Fedor is the most over rated fighter in MMA history is as ignorant as saying Hendo and Shogun are has beens, My suggestion to both of you is catch up on your Pride

The suckerpunch that Hendo threw from behind and under Fedor, that one. I’m not saying Dan didn’t win the fight legitimately, i’m just saying he got extremely lucky. Fedor was throwing bombs before that and Dan was very close to getting KTFO.
Hendo’s and Rua’s times are up. They bring a very a-typical game to the cage. Rashad and Machida pose much more of threat to John Jones right now than those two.

Yes I agree, Shallow AND Pedantic !

PEDANTIC ASSHOLES

I also read cagepotato cuz of you funny fuckers on the comments section. SnackDaddy, what “suckerpunch” did Hendo get away with? You’re probably one those people who thinks because Fedor rolled over to his back that he was gonna pull a submision out of his ass, but the bitch ass ref stopped the fight. You know, cuz when Fedor rolled over, Hendo shit himself and prayed to almighty God the ref would stop the fight. But you know what? I wish the ref didn’t stop Hendo so he could have continued to beat the ever loving shit out of the most over rated fighter in MMA history. And keep in mind Hendo is 40 something and a natural middleweight. Just because he doesn’t like to cut weight to make 185 doesn’t mean he isn’t a natural middleweight.

^^ not trying to give you shit, just offering a workable solution until you unbunch those panties of yours

@ ArmFarmer
Good god you’re annoying, you remind me of my complaining bitching ex girlfriend who only shut up when somebody elses cock was in her mouth. My suggestion is to stick somebody besides you boyfriends cock in your mouth.

@Armfarmer
“I kind of would have rather” Don’t be such a pushover, be sure of your self motherfucker. Just tryin to give ya a little shit bro.

Expect jesus said it all in the first comment

i read Cagrpotato for the comments, we got some pretty funny regulars

@intercept440 Very true … I was just spouting off – not really making a point. You are totally right though, Le is a san shou Pimp.
@SnackDaddy ‘has beens’? Really? Just because somebody out there can beat them and their last fights were quick knockouts, which evidently = luck for you? Weird.

lol, fo griff IS completely useless!

Great, another fight between two has beens. Rua and Hendo both got lucky in their last fight. Hendo, cause his sucker punch got through and Rua, cause he was fighting a completely useless opponent. Johnny Bones is gonna destroy both of them- and make them look silly in the process.

@macreadyshack.
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actually cung le has been kingpin before. back when he did nothing but kickboxing. he was da man.. now? not so much.

Machida deserved the decision at UFC 104. I had it the same as *all three* judges, 3 rounds to 2.

Cung Le has never been a ‘kingpin’. Danga, edit it just for me.

i was pissed they took off cain, but so stoked now. The UFC hooked it up with Shogun Hendo LE Vitor. Good Job UFC and i will be going for sure

@ArmFarmer
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If the captcha keeps the spam off the site, then I suppose its better for me than having to scroll down through to read the next relevant post.
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I am with you 100% over the edit button.

Props for responding appropriately to criticism and making the corrections though.. even if it does take the wind out of my sails. I do enjoy bitching and complaining. Oh well, so long as there’s still captcha and no edit button I’ll still have plenty to work with.

“…must have had second thoughts…”

Well Armfarmer, I’m still working out some kinks with the website and all, so I appreciate the feedback.

Not-Bright-White must have had seconds thought about renewing the contract with less restriction for Henderson this time around, good for Dan.

Godamnit danga.. why couldn’t you just be like the other writers and either ignore me or say something rude and confrontational. Now instead of throwing something witty and insulting back at you I just feel guilty for being a dick…

Wasn’t this official about 16 hours ago?
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CAGE POTATO: YOUR SOURCE FOR [old] NEWS!
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AND AWESOME LEADS ON KNOCKOFF ED HARDY SHIAT

Nah, I doubt FOTN for Faber vs Bowles, more like who can break their hand on the other guys face first…

I’d also like to apologize to skeletor for apparently shitting in his coffee every morning for the past few weeks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strikeforce#Current_champions
Only two male champions left.

@armfarmer – That’s Danga for ya.

@armfarmer
That’s what I was referring to. I’ll change it up just for you.

awesome card. faber vs bowles fight of the night.

Oh, and by the way I’m pumped for this fight. I kind of would have rather they set up Hendo to take on Jones. I think him and Machida pose the most interesting stylistic threats to Jones, but if he beats Shogun that will probably happen anyway. I just really like Shogun so this is a lose/lose for me. Either Shogun wins and I have to watch bones beat the life out of him again, or I have to watch him lose to Hendo, with the consolation prize of Hendo/Jones. Oh well fuck it, I’ll just sit back and enjoy what’s sure to be an awesome fight.

Hendo has only won 3 of his last 4 as well, he got wrestle-fucked by Shields 4 fights ago. I think what you meant was “Shogun’s last 5 wins have come by way of knockout, and the same is true of Henderson’s last 4 wins” or something of that nature. I think “whereas” is one word as well, but the factual inaccuracies are more irritating. That one’s just nitpicking.

Uh.. Pretty sure shogun did not win his last 5 fights by ko. Does anyone know of a good mma blog that doesnt censor comments, require captcha, or write articles that nobody proof reads? Ive had about enough of this shit.

Sick fight and card really. Healthy sho gun vs a hot Dan Henderson! It’ll be interesting.

Business as usual

YES! (with cartwheel) YES!
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This should be an excellent scrap.