Beltran very clearly won the first two rounds and was fouled in the third. Damage isn’t judging criteria. They fucked up.

pat berry is a can crusher ,not impressed

Pat Berry is a can crusher , he cant hang with real HW did you see what Mirko did to him and Mirko aint even close to top HW in UFC

are you reffering to Cain , because i seen him beat the shit out of brock

Foot stomps are legit. Actually and in the rules. Logic fails you.

Foot stomps are for bitches!

Two deliberate groin shots are for street fights.

Two accidental groin shots prove you have no technique.

Pat Barry is da MAN!

Beltran is a cross-eyed two bit hustler who isn’t smart enough to lift his leg when he sees a kick coming, and his only success was with flailing machine gun hook bursts… who’s his trainer, Tank Abbott?

No points were taken away though.

I foot stomp in my fights. It’s a valuable technique.

Nothing wrong with a good ole foot stomping , especially if it helps mix up a cage grinding clinchfest.

Barry got nutshotted twice in what looked like a serious nutshot way … judges consider that shit even if a point isn’t taken away

@Fried Taco

I guess you missed the part in round 2 where Beltran dirty boxed Barry on the cage for at least 2 minutes straight, and Barry came out looking like someone squirted a handful of ketchup packets all over his face.

And the footstomp hate; what the fuck? So, let me get this straight: because a technique may cause injury to your opponent, it’s “bullshit” or “pointless”. OK, so I guess we should also ban armbars and leglocks? After all man, you could really fuck up someone’s knee with a heelhook, and that could cause him to miss all kind of training time. Seriously, MRuss should give a free shirt or shitty straight-to-video DVD to anyone who can explain this one.

I had the fight 29-28 Beltran too…but if it went to Beltran we’d all be talking about how Barry got screwed so whatever.

And as I’ve been saying, the doctor giving in to the fans’ chants and allowing a guy who couldn’t see to keep fighting is unacceptable. You’re at cageside to prevent guys who want to keep fighting but cannot safely do so from situations like that.

Pat “The Mental Midget” Barry may have landed a ton of leg kicks, but other than that, and using his face to pepper Beltran’s fist, he didn’t do much more. I had that fight going to Beltran.

Barry has loads of physical talent, but he’ll never go anywhere because he’s so obsessed with Cro Copping people he gets beat seven ways to sunday.

Barry may have the worst mental game in MMA.

Footstomps are for girls. Beltran wasn’t doing any damage while holding Barry on the cage. He lost, get over it and stop looking for excuses.

@LAS

I was meerly speaking about how tired he looked in the second. The fact that he collapsed after the round ended and then sleeked back to his corner looking all beaten to shit didn’t help him in the third. It does have an impact saying otherwise is completely ignorant.

Pat’s berries went crunch

Please tell me Beltran didn’t Tweet a pic of his cash and prizes. 

@MRuss,

That’s because foot stomps are completely pointless. They don’t do shit except break bones forcing the recipient of the strikes to miss training/fight time while such a shitty injury heals. Foot stomps are bullshit.

During the play by play CP said that rounds 1 and 2 could have gone either way…. Now it’s a different song; “choosing Beltran as the winner of the bout seemed like an unlikelihood unless you were Cecil Peoples.”

WTF?

Rd 1: hands were about even with Beltran’s slappy punches penetrating Barry’s awful SPEAR defenses (a la Tony Blauer). The difference is Beltran had the pressure against the cage and made at least one attempt to takedown. Damage down was equivocal, with Beltran controlling the cage better and showing more aggression in trying to advance position.

Rd 2: more of the same of round 1. Beltran won this round more handily as he showed less respect for Barry’s punches and was answering with his own (if not technical) flurries. At least once Beltran released the clinch from the cage to back out and tee-off successfully before closing the distance again. Damage done was equivocal, Beltran again controlled the cage and tried to advance more.

Rd 3: Barry ran away with this round, really laying into the leg kicks and hurting Beltran. He dominated the round, but it was not enough to score it 10-8, as Beltran did show some offense throughout the first half.

Final score: 29-28 Beltran

Try watching the fights on mute if you’re going to legitimately score them: the judges don’t have the luxury of hearing the commentator’s assessments.

 I hate foot stomps. 

Is it just me, or foot stomping a guy coming off a broken foot sort of a bitch move in retaliation for getting your leg tenderized like a side of beef?

@Karma

So, I guess Beltran falling to the mat at the end of the third round caused the judges to go back and change their scores during the first two rounds? What a dogshit argument. Beltran lost the third, no one is questioning that. No amount of him not falling to the mat was going to change the way that round was scored, despite all your fighterly expertise to the contrary.

However, there is a solid case to make that he won both the first two rounds; even with Barry coming on at the end of the second, I’d still give Beltran the round for putting him up against the cage and making a mess of his face for at least 3 minutes worth of that round. The first was tight, and I’d like to see stats on it. Either way, the scoring on this is nowhere as uncontroversial as suggested, and all the shittalk going at Beltran for being a “puss” is just pathetic.

When fighting in MMA,Boxing or Kick boxing. It is very important to remember the Judges look to see who’s more warn out at the end of every round. The reason Beltran lost that fight was not solely on damage but also on the fact that he decided to let himself collapse after the fight. This sends not so good signals to the judges, After every round of my fights I get up at the end of the round and raise my hands. This sends solid signals and those rounds that could be have been fairly even are now yours because the Judges don’t see you fading,limping, looking exhausted or collapsing on the mat after you just got kicked in the legs to hell and back. Beltran lost himself that fight. Fact.

I have watched it three times now. If you’re not cecil peoples and you count leg strikes in your scoring then Barry won. It was close but like many above posters mentioned …. the dude fucking collapsed from a barrage of brutal leg kicks.

Hahaha exactly. Its amazing that he’s going on like this but got absolutely wrecked in the later rounds of the fight. Whether he landed more punches or not, at the end of the day, the guy NOT laying face down on the mat crying is probably going to be the winner.

“I survived 2 mins with one eye and one leg against a K1 kikboxer.”
Clearly a typo, this is in reference to K1′s lesser known division of lolboxers.

This is what happens when you fail to mexecute your gameplan.

Imo Barry won the fight (and I don’t even think it was that close) but the eye-poke clearly made a difference; I’m guessing Beltran didn’t want to look like a pussy and make the audience boo him or something, but it was a different fight from then on. He should get a rematch if that’s what he wants.

Beltran won that fight. True if it went another round Barry would have stopped him but fights aren’t given out on “if it had another round.”
2 rounds to 1 for Beltran. More damage or not, most of the damage came in the 3rd round and Beltran already won the first 2. I thought pulling them off the cage was a little quick too… not too mention Rogan blowing Barry during the fight and not giving Beltran any props. Don’t get me wrong… I’m not saying that a company with little to no competition that has no ranking system and is owned by people that own casinos is fixed…. but I do think they wanted Barry to win.

I wasn’t impressed with either fighter to honest, Barry didn’t capitalize,…and Beltran didn’t make his punches count. Couple that with low blows, eye-pokes and cage huggin and you got a mediocre fight. I hope neither of these two want a rematch cause it just wasn’t all that exciting or entertaining IMO.

The only berries to speak of round here are Dana’s in Beltran’s mouth. Mexicutioner? More like Menstracutioner.

LOL @ MMAINMYBLOOD

Eddie Sanchez – HA!

If no damage was done to his leg, why the fuck did he collapse in agony at the end of the fight? thought this one could have gone either way, specially with peeples as a judge, cause we all know” leg kicks don’t finish fights”.

Beltran was doing his best Rampage impression in that fight… and he was afraid of those leg kicks and he hits like a lady… if he hit barry so much there should have been alot more damage. Bottom line is here the judges seemed not to care about the shots landed and went more for the damage done and the fact that beltran looked like he had a blowout. Yes unless those pics are photoshopped he is a huge pussy. Finishes from here on out that sounds like a dude trying to save his job right there… he aint finishing shit. They should make him fight Eddie Sanchez.

I thought it was a close fight that could have gone either way until the eyepoke. After that Barry smelt blood in the water and went after it.

I dont buy that bullshit about Barry being cool and not hitting Mex on his blind side, mostly because he did hit him on his blind side over and over again.

Barry went for the leg only because it was the only place he was doing damage. Barry sucked in that fight and barely eeked out a win. He needs to go back to K1 because hes wasting his time in the UFC if he things hes ever going to progress beyond the scrub level.

I commented earlier that I was disappointed with Barry’s one dimensional defense against the cage. He just sat their with the overhook and didn’t try to reverse position. However, I wouldn’t disagree with the restarts b/c Beltran was only working his knees intermittently, not causing much damage or improving position. The troops were clearly getting restless so unless he was going to land a devastating knee to the ribs or some convincing hooks to the body, the tilt would be towards restarting.

I’m still not sold on this whole “judges got it right” line. True, Barry landed a shitload of leg kicks, and Beltran was lucky to have survived the third round. But until I see full stats, I won’t be convinced Beltran didn’t possibly take both of the first two rounds. Not saying it’s a shitty decision, but the whole “numbers can lie” thing is really not appropriate for a fight as close as this one.

Beltran definitely got a bad shake. Restarts were a little quick, he landed good punches standing, and that eye poke really hurt him bad. I love HD, but kinda want a rematch.

i think barry won this fight, though when watchin it i told my buddy i thought it was ginna go to beltran, cause he did land more shots and he hadem up against the cage 4 times doin foot stomps and he was also not backin away but movin foward at times.
still when barry landed he landed, and did it hard, he wasnt even faced by this guys punches, he was pushin him away when eva he wanted to.
i really do think barry gave this dude a pass, even rogan said” barrys lettin him of the hook”
i mean he threw high kicks so maybe he wasnt, i just find it hard to beleve that barry coudnt put this fool away at will.
and this dude has more excuses than bj penn, holyshit, and no you were ok you fuckin lyer, you couldnt walk,

im sorry did he forget when he told pat to stop in the last few seconds of the fight…put his hand out to push him away.

Sorry Beltran, you arent the mexican heavyweight that the UFC is willing to fix fights for….
No damage? I agree, he must just be a pussy!

One thing I gotta give to Beltran is he is close to if not the best mexican executioner that I have seen fight Houston Alexander and Pat Berry at some point in any given career.

If his leg isn’t bruised and he says he feels fine. then why did he collapse at the end of the fight. why was he wincing in pain after every kick.
i guess he’s just a pussy.
if his eye was such a problem why didn’t he take the full 5 minutes, instead of listening to the crowd chant “suck it up”

Steve Mazzagatti doesn’t care about Mexican homos.

Damn, after all the punishment he took in that fight his title hopes seem pretty bleak. Oh well I guess we can still count on Mitrione to make that run. Seriously though he’s a tough guy but if this were SF he would be lucky to co headline a challengers card.

He fucking collapsed at the end of the fight. Like a sack of potatoes. Collapsed. Fucking. Collapsed. He. Potatoes.

good call blawa – someone spent more time on the ‘shop than the story…

IMHO this is a fight where the judges got it right. Beltran may have landed more strikes but Barry clearly did way more damage.

30-27, 29-28, 29-28

The only problem here is that it was Yamasaki, not Mazzagatti

I thought Beltran won.

I giggled at your use of “berries” !