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After pulling off his miracle win against Chael Sonnen at UFC 117, Anderson Silva mentioned to Joe Rogan that he had hurt his ribs coming into the fight. Could that have played a factor in the extended beating that he endured before snatching that Hail Mary triangle-choke submission? Silva’s manager Ed Soares shared details to FightHype (via BloodyElbow):
"It was really close because the doctors didn’t want him to fight. He hurt his rib last Friday in sparring. He hurt it, but he didn’t think it was hurt that bad and then Sunday morning, I had about 13 missed calls in a matter of 25 minutes. They were all from Anderson and he was calling me to tell me he was in pain. He couldn’t breathe. I took him to the hospital and they X-Rayed each rib and they noticed that it was a bit swollen, but there was no fracture. They said it was bruised ribs, but the way he reacted when they touched it and how tender they were, they said it was in the muscle as well as the bruise. I’m not a doctor, but this is just what they told us. They prescribed some Ibuprofen 800 for him because it was so close to the fight, they couldn’t do any Vicodin.
The doctors said, ‘I really don’t recommend that he fights,’ but Anderson said, ‘No man, the show must go on. I’m going to fight.’ I put it this way, he was supposed to corner Mark Munoz on Sunday for his fight against Okami, but I made him stay at home in bed. He was just lying around and letting his ribs heal up on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday because we traveled. He didn’t train again until we got to Oakland. He gave his ribs about a 5-day rest."
Silva may have been exposed to some extent at UFC 117, but I think the fight will go a long way in repairing his image. He fought hurt. He got his ass kicked but didn’t give up. He will be forever associated with one of the greatest comeback wins in MMA history. He proved that his previous noncommittal performances against guys like Demian Maia and Thales Leites were partly his fault, but not completely his fault. (As long as he has an opponent that comes after him, his fights are interesting.) Getting bombed on for the better part of five rounds is the best thing that could have happened for his career.
As for a second dance with Sonnen, Soares doesn’t really see the point: "I don’t necessarily think an immediate rematch is legitimate. It’s not like he won by decision. You got submitted, man. You were on top of him for 23 minutes of the fight and you couldn’t finish him. Anderson got a few bumps and bruises, but let’s be realistic, you’re on a guy 23 minutes and you couldn’t finish him? Why should he get a rematch?"
Soares has a point; the ending of the fight wasn’t controversial, no matter what came before it. But a rematch will probably have to happen at some point, considering how close Sonnen came to winning. How interested would you be in seeing that fight? And would it play out any differently if Silva was 100% healthy? Your thoughts, please.
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"You got submitted, man. You were on top of him for 23 minutes of the fight and you couldn't finish him. Anderson got a few bumps and bruises, but let's be realistic, you're on a guy 23 minutes and you couldn't finish him? Why should he get a rematch?"
exactly, 289 punches and you can't knock a guy out? your in the wrong sport Chael, Greco Roman's probably more your forte, where your ridiculous lack of punching power wont be exposed.
Incidentally Ed Soares is still a slimy bucket of shit, It's just that I agree with him on this one
2) I, imo, think Silva wasn't anywhere near 100%. Whatever the reason, he didn't move like he usually does, old age, family distraction, ribs, whatever, he definitely was not the same. I gotta say a tip-top Silva don't let it get nearly this close again.
I'd be happy with an immediate rematch, but like someone above me also stated Vitor isn't getting much older and I think he could pose some problems for Silva. Also, as someone else pointed out as well, it looks a lot better for Chael if he gets another fight, say against Okami, and then fights the champ. Because if he happens to get his asskicked by Silva the second time around, then people will instantly forget about him. He would be much more profitable with a couple more fights before the super hyped rematch.
and if you were blind you'd see random time silva would turn up the heat on the ground, camora (cant spell) let go and then had his ass for leg lock didnt even go for it, cheal sonnen has more damage on him and again silva is never that sloppy 1000000% forrest griffin would beat cheal sonnen and look what happened there
anderson prob betrayed the Fertitta brothers and dana in that 5 th round at the end they prob lost sooooooooooo much money not even funny so dont be surprised that AS is dead in the future
You're a dumbass. Shogun and Penn lost by controversial decisions. That's why they got the instant rematch.
Silva's face was cleaner than when he STARTED the fight. It's like Sonnen's powderpuff punches rejuvenated him with their magical healing powers.
Sonnen, on the other hand, after only taking 50(?) of silva's shots...was busted up, even though he won every round.
So um.... who got their ass kicked?
If i sat and poked you on the cheek for 23 minutes while laying on top of you, would you think i kicked your ass? Beat you up?
Imagine if Silva had landed...oh i dont know...even 150 strikes? Sonnen would be having his obituary read by some Log Cabin Republicans. Lance Armstrong would one testicle tea bag his tombstone.
Where did it say Silva's ribs were broken? I beleive it said he had bruised ribs, and why does he need to show proof he won dumb shit. You sound like a fucking idiot. There's no where in the rules that you have to tap 12 and half times before it counts. If you were watching the fight either way sonnen was done he wasn't getting out of the triangle or the armbar and he knew it which is why his hand hovered over the thigh before he TAPPED. You can make all kinds of speculations about the the damage Silva took but there is no speculation about Sonnen being in a triangle with his arm on the verge of snapping. Also Silva did tell his corner after either the 2nd or 3rd round that his ribs were bothering him. How about next time you talk shit you have a slight idea about what the fuch you're talking about.
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You're right. Sonnen whom I can't stand did an OUTstanding job in the ring, but his fatal flaw was not being a finisher. If you can't hurt your opponent and the majority of your strikes are little ineffective shots you will always run the risk of getting tapped by sitting in a bjj blackbelts guard for 5 rounds. Simple as that. If Sonnen could have done some damage he probably would have the belt on right now.
Well played, I like creativity.
Truth is, with all the money he has helped me make with the bookies, I should give him a BJ to completion.
It's not so much repping Silva here, it's more about drawing a line in the sand with this whole lay and pray shit really. I think fight metric is useful only when looked at subjectively i.e. Sonnen's striking clinic on Silva. Take a look at Nick Diaz v. Scott Smith, the striking numbers will be very close(to scale i.e rd1 and rd2) to that of Sonnen v. Silva. Diaz won his fight and fucked Smith up "kicked his ass" and Smith's face agreed. Sonnen had nothing on his shots outside of the 3rd round, 85%(roughly) of his shots were while he was in the guard, Silva looked like he did before he got in the Octagon at the end of the fight, this will tell you how much actual abuse he took during the "ass kicking" he received. Maybe it should be Silva looked like he was getting his ass kicked to UFC fans, I think the one kick Chael threw almost ended with the James Irvin special.
I already knew White would not allow a rematch any time soon. They want Silva to be the champ. He didn't lose, either. He was screwed out of his win. One tap after waving his hand around to find some place to grab, to keep his balance is not tapping. Sonnen was not shown tapping out. Every time Sonnen has lost by tapping out, he was tapping out. Not one tap, but tapping out. No one can convince me otherwise, either.
Besides, his excuse was he was thinking of his family, of his mom and his step dad. Nothing about oh sh*t, my broken ribs are hurting me. He was given the fight, thanks to Josh Rosenthal. Sonnen was not tapping out. He hit him once only. In a triangle choke and Sonnen has never tapped out by tapping one time. Each time he ever tapped, Sonnen repeatedly tapped over and over until the ref stopped the fight. These two were still fighting when Rosenthal jumped in. What a crock of sh*t.
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On Saturday Night, Anderson Silva got his ass kicked, but he wasn't beat up.
So landing 1000 meaningless punches constitutes an ass kicking? You're saying that a punch doesn't have to have anything behind it in order to kick someones ass?
I'd say that landing an average of one punch every 6 seconds on a dudes face counts as an as kicking. Silva took over 250 punches to his dome on saturday night... He landed just north of 50 total strikes. I'd say, the difference between "winning" a fight and kicking an ass is the difference between Jon Fitch and Chael Sonnen. But even Fitch's lead blanket style landed more shots, in less time, than Mr. Silva. Sorry to interrupt, I'm sure he was about to spurt... you can put it back in your mouth now.
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