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Just How Detached From Reality Is Chuck Liddell?


(Go ahead.  Tell Chuck you forgot to order the ice cream cake for his birthday party.  I’m sure he’ll understand.)

As Chuck Liddell prepares to try and prove to Dana White and the rest of the MMA world that he still belongs in the UFC, some recent comments seem to suggest that he maybe he has suffered serious head trauma after all.  Regarding his goal to take back the UFC light heavyweight strap, Liddell told Fighters Only:

“I don’t plan on letting [Rashad Evans] stay champ for long. I thought I was winning that fight. I made a mistake, got caught and dropped. I was winning the fight up until then.  People ask me about retiring after that fight. It wasn’t like I got my ass kicked and then got knocked out. I was winning the fight, got sloppy for a second and got caught. I made a mistake.”

[Sigh]  I can’t help but feel like he’s using the old ‘got caught’ explanation as a crutch here.  Yes, he got caught in the sense that he left himself wide open and was absolutely hammered by a right hand from Evans.  But he wasn’t really winning the fight up until then.  He wasn’t losing, either.  The fight was fairly even with little significant action.  And then he got knocked out.


He didn’t get caught any more than Wanderlei Silva got caught by “Rampage” Jackson or Andrei Arlovski got caught by Fedor.

I’d be willing to give Liddell the benefit of the doubt if we weren’t talking about a guy who is 1-3 in his last four fights with lone win coming via decision against Silva, who is 1-4 in his last five fights.  Now Liddell is looking like he might be at the end of an illustrious career, fighting a “Shogun” Rua who is also nearing his last stop (if he can’t turn things around), just to see who gets to stick around a little while longer. 

That doesn’t sound to me like a guy who is at all close to a title shot against Rashad Evans.  He’ll have to win a few fights first, and the way the UFC’s light heavyweight division is, who knows who the champion will be by then.

Amazingly, Liddell seems completely unaware of any of this.  To him, Evans is walking around on borrowed time wearing his belt.  Maybe that’s the world you need to live in to be Chuck Liddell these days, even if it’s not a very realistic one.

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Anonymous- March 28, 2009 at 7:45 pm
The Iceman is THE SHIT...so take a big whiff.....

Yeah he may hve lost a few recently, but he'll get his groove back. He is my favorite fighter, and I am keeping the faith...

Good Luck Chuck......showin love in OHIO
Keyser Soze- March 26, 2009 at 3:54 pm
First off... the motherf*ck*rs using that ascending text should be banned from posting on the site.

Secondly, Chuck might be aging and slowing down, but I'd hardly call him washed up, and I think the biggest factors affecting him right now are his confidence, and faith in John Hackleman's training. I'd suggest that Hackleman is failing him, and can't help but wonder how much a difference there would be had Chuck had Greg Jackson training him instead.

I fully believe Chuck still possesses KO power in his fists, and his sprawl defence is still pretty solid. For a black belt in Kenpo, he throws far fewer kicks than I'd expect. His ground and pound is rarely utilized, and when old tricks stop working it's time to make some changes. I'm not saying Chuck will be champ again, but I believe he'd still perform well against the top 5'ers in the LHW division with better strategies and better coaching.
Bootylam!- March 26, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Yo Dag, you miss the point. I know these trained fighters are fighting for REAL, but I'm talking about fighting for your life or fighting to keep what's yours IN REAL LIFE, out in the street. Never claimed I would last against ANY trained fighter, the point is the same: just making a comment about a fighter doesn't mean it's a challenge, but then you get all these gym rats challenging people to fight or go up against a pro and that's just dumb. Then they commence to insult US because we're on the webz posting OPINIONS not realizing that they have no concept of where that person is from or why they think the way they do. They want us to go to the gym, I want them to take a stroll through the projects. It's entirely different when you fight because you have to, not because you pay to go the gym and WANT to. And I would not write a book about my hard times because way more people have had it way worse. I was smart enough to get out and STAY out. Way too many people never even get that chance. Now read the post again and see if you get it.
Dagnut- March 26, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Bootylam....keep it real brother! you should write a book about your hard times.........or go tell someone who gives a fcuk..unless you have something relevant or something that hasn't been said already in the thread shut the fuck up..REAL fighting? a street fight? you wouldnt even last 15 seconds with liddel or any cultured fighter..street fights me hole
Bootylam!- March 26, 2009 at 11:16 am
The Chuckhuggers need to get it straight, he's on the decline and it's obvious , especially to those of us who have watched him for years. And crying how we're a bunch of interwebz punks who are fat losers is stupid. You don't know what you're talking about. You why you "go to the gym" and "train"? Because you don't have any idea about what REAL fighting is. It's not fair, you don't pick and choose who, how, and where you fight, and there's a real possibility you could get killed. Try tapping in a streetfight. You know why I don't "train"? Because I'm sick of fighting! I saved for a long time to get out of the hood and I'm going to avoid all the real life violence if at all possible. I don't need to go play fight in a gym to know I can handle my business.
Anonymous- March 26, 2009 at 10:33 am
Sounds plausible to me. I look forward to his comeback.

Rashad's eyes were closed.
Tangy Terry - March 26, 2009 at 9:26 am
Thanks for keepin' it real Bruce Buffer!
Chuck decides when he retires and not a bunch of haters.
Sideshow- March 26, 2009 at 8:33 am
I agree w/Chuck. He must smash Shogun though.
Craig- March 26, 2009 at 7:50 am
OMFG CP and others need a bot to write the first comment automatically to lose the retards with their "First" posts.

Chuck was a great. But the wear and tear on bangers like Liddell seems to really take its toll later in their careers - and those careers are lasting longer and longer now that the money has come up.
Ouch! That hurts- March 26, 2009 at 7:48 am
um Intercept440, he WAS Dana's golden boy only because he was winning. Now he has been replaced by others who in turn will be replaced by others, deal with it.

And WTF, so do you have be play the sport to have an opinion? So NFL fans just need to sit there with their hands on their knees saying "Well, that Ryan Leaf has earned my respect by just being on the field."? That's crap and you know it.

So STFU and go back to your knitting class!
Chuck Liddell- March 26, 2009 at 7:20 am
Jizzman, you're a douche.
TUF Guy- March 26, 2009 at 7:20 am
I see a 15 round fight between Chuck and Ken Shamrock in the future. it would be an epic battle between two people who don't know when to quit.
Jazzman- March 26, 2009 at 7:07 am
Um... I hate to say it guys but you do know it's all hype right? He's talking up the fight. If nobody thinks he has anything left why would they bother watching his ppv? He doesn't need to believe it.

Truth is he WAS winning the fight. Rashad is a cautious counter-striker and his gameplan (care of Greg Jackson) paid off; but until then Chuck was dominating the scorecards if not his opponent. He is simply using what there is to spin into some hype for the next event.

I know its CPs job to create talk over events but I hope they don't actually believe anything in this article. Chuck may well know exactly where he stands but who admits that they aren't champion material anymore when trying to hype a fight.

Also as for focusing on his repetition of the "I got caught" line. We all love Chuck for what he's done for the sport but let's face it he's not a rocket-scientist. If you ask a guy who's not the brightest tool in the shed (especially after all those KOs and fights) what he thinks of a fight don't expect a Randy Couture style rundown. Another possibility is that he's playing dumber than he is and he full well know's what his weakness was in that fight and has been working to fix it but wants shogun to be trying for it and expose himself in the fight.

Bottom line? Chuck Liddel says something giving the impression hes not the brightest? Another day at the UFC office.
COOL!- March 26, 2009 at 6:49 am
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Your Fucking Father- March 26, 2009 at 6:28 am
I agree almost completely with intercept440. I train five times a week with some of the best guys in my state, but there is no way in hell I could touch one of the UFC's best on my best day. Chuck Liddell is a fucking legend and you internet douchebags should have some fucking respect, no way is he done completely. If Chuck changes his game its not out of the question for him to beat Rashad, dont forget this is the same Rashad evans that got handled by Ortiz and almost by Bisping.
emptyhandkiller- March 26, 2009 at 5:40 am
I have admired and backed Chuck in the past, but you have to admit that he has lost a step or two. I have noticed that with his "lobster" boxing style, he is just not as quick as even a year ago. With that style, your primary need is quickness. It is just physics... it's pretty dang hard to block a straight punch with your own hands way out to the sides. I hope Chuck can somehow compensate for the curse of getting older. I want Chuck to leave the sport gracefully whenever he chooses.
Anonymous- March 26, 2009 at 4:41 am
Most K.O. Losses involve someone "getting caught". Welcome to the club Chuck. You have initiated many members yourself.
Doof- March 26, 2009 at 3:55 am
So, by that rationale, I guess Chuck would be fine admitting that many of his own wins weren't really "victories" -- just cases of him fluking out and "catching" his opponents.
Stinky Mike- March 26, 2009 at 2:49 am
not really looking forward to the battle of the washouts at ufc 97
dana white - March 26, 2009 at 2:36 am
dont worry about chuck if he is done in mma he could always star in porn movies he has a 9 1/2 inch cock.
cr_trinity- March 26, 2009 at 1:02 am
Chuck just has to remember he has technical ability, and he has to stop drinking. Period.
boober- March 25, 2009 at 11:32 pm
intercept440, why are you comparing us to proffessional fighters on ppv, man your a douche
Intercept440- March 25, 2009 at 10:11 pm
I find it hilarious that a bunch of asshole (more than likely out of shape and obese internet bloggers ) have the nerve to critque guys who make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year kicking the shit out of people......
the facts are straight and you all know them. chuck was king of the ufc in his division for a number of years.....Face it he is a BAD ASS... but just like the neighborhood bully and the tough SOB across the street .. there will always be someone faster better or just plain luckier than you at some given point in time... Chuck lost the last 3 out of 4 of his fights... end of story .. he would still rip off your arms and beat you to death with them in a brawl . including you me and everyone else that posts here, he is a tough mutherfucker end of story... we can all armchair the dogshit out of it with our gripes or opionions , but it dont make a pile of dogshit smell better... he will come back .. why you ask... he is dana's golden cow.. he brings business.. now whether he wins or not is up to chuck. can he do it ? i think so .. just look to couture to see how you can be at one point considered done with your career then come back and become champ and he is alot older than chuck. so if he can do it at 42 or 43 i think chuck can work hard and do it also... but it is all up to him....
Anonymous- March 25, 2009 at 10:01 pm
I'm actually starting to feel bad for him.
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