I know Karo personally, he is a great guy with a good heart.

I think he was taxed 32K for lying about it, whereas he was suspended for using the drugs – that may not be technically true, but would they have fined him as heavily if he disclosed the use on the medical questionnaire? I don’t know…

BJ … maybe you can’t knock him for standing up for what he believes in. Maybe I couldn’t. But I don’t believe that’s what he’s doing. This isn’t about principle – it’s all about BJ. And bringing in Mommy? Classic. Jackson&co are doing this right. Smart. They know enough to mea culpa on a limited basis and keep their mouths shut about BJ and his lawyer. Smart to not have GSP show tooo. Clever lads they are.

Craig why cant you believe you are responding to anonymous? I am just making my opinionated statement on the term enhancements . I agree he fd up and agree he should have been punished also. I guess i agree he would have had an extra second to get out of an armbar due to the drugs. but also belive he would get in that armbar position due to the drugs. I cant believe he was taxed 32000 for that. And for B.J. , what is up with that guy? He is losing it. I guess I cant knock him for standing up for what he believes in , but damn. Its kinda funny how Greg Jackson is keeping his head down coaching his boy on what to say.A few times his expression is oh fuck dont say that.

I can’t believe I’m responding to “Anonymous”.

I believe you about disequilibrium, and couldn’t agree more about submission to a choke. I’m not sure I agree with respect to locks, neck crank etc. That’s why I specifically said armbar (though that’s narrower than it needed to be).

Definitely not saying it’s a plus on net. Wouldn’t choose it myself.

Bottom line in this case with Karo is do the crime, do the time. Maybe he should have brought in his momma to read a statement if he was going for sympathy…I suppose at least he has some self-respect.

WTF is yout problem, the dude is a legend

Craig- like I said I take painkillers on a daily basis and trust me they dont give you an extra second to get out of being submitted, you are more likely to being knocked out while on them and your reactions are much slower , not to mention they affect your breathing . When you are in a fight your adreniline takes over and takes pain away anyways. Just look at Karos performance in that fight ,very sloppy and lax.

Dar, just when I try to express an informed opinion , I fuck it up .But you get what I meant .

Russell – I haven’t seen anyone saying it did. But it sounds like you think that awareness and stamina are the only two aspects of fighting which could be enhanced by drugs. An interesting conclusion, I would say.

Getting injured during a fight hurts. Me hurting you helps me win. I can only imagine it would hurt less if you were doped up on painkillers. Might buy you an extra second to escape an armbar, hold out long enough for the bell, etc.

Might get you really hurt too, if I decide that you’re not quitting because I’m not pulling hard enough and I turn your elbow inside out. And that’s not good for fighter safety. Plus I might feel bad.

Until I find out you were cheating anyway.

This is FUCKED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No more high level judo throws for awhile!! I bet the diaz bros are happy they are not gonna get thrown on their heads anytime soon.

Fuck yall

damn, I lost like 80 bucks on this fight…. wheres my money MGM?

After reading this… Everyone on this site is retarded.. The dude took painkillers for an injury. In no way did that give him a boost in stamina or awareness. All of you… are retarded

Karo was always trash, now hes worthless trash.
Bye Karo join assfliction, they take all the UFC rejects.

“Life’s a bitch…

….And she’s back in heat!”

The NSAC suspended him bro, other than that nice post.

I am prescribed hydrocodone every month and they do not enhance my life in any way but as a buffer to my severe pain . It is true some people feel a lil rush from them , but they make you relaxed ,tired ,and the pain is still there ,if anything the painkillers were a negative for Karo to take. I just want to watch t.v. after I take them. If I do anything physical that day, like working on cars or go to the gym I dont take them.So in my opinion calling them enhancers is a joke ,if he didnt take them , he would have done much better. Now if he went in the cage on pcp that would be a different story. I think the suspension was warranted for illegal prescripts , the time off would give him alot of time to fix his health issues ,or addictions , but the 32k stings a lil. Man the CSAC dont take shit from nobody.

brett farve admitted to taking up to 8 vicodin before a game. Nobody stripped him of any wins or money. This allowed him to compete, it didn’t enhance his performance… it allowed him to perform. Some of these fighters fight 3 times a year and get 4-6 thousand dollars a fight. Can they really afford to miss a fight and support family with 10k a year. I know the Heat makes much more than that but one would like to think Karo was treated fairly and if someone took 40% pay of a fighter lower down the totem pole, they would be up the creek. I understand the importance of being honest on your questionnaire for medical reasons but these guys are just like any other athlete that wants to compete. i look at it as an illegal cortisone shot- imho.

I feel bad for the dude,but rules are rules,biotches

KARO OWES ME AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO BET ON KIM THAT FIGHT! KARO YOU DRUGGED UP HIPPY GIVE ME MY $250!

“We can’t have fighters drifting in and out of reality”…haha.
Not a huge fan of Karo…I sympathize with his panic attacks and anxiety problems but he needs to shut the fack up and quit acting so arrogant and awesome.

Those silly Armenians…always trying to get away with something. Karo kinda reminds me of Biff from Back to the Future. I can picture him saying:
“Why dont you make like a tree, and get outta here.”

IMO painkillers can help you alot!! I should know I had a problem with them a few years back. They do give certain people energy and strength depending on the person…thats what they did for me. Now the BS no contest was the one given to Diaz for smoking pot. That definitely is not performance-enhancing. If you can defeat (at the time) a person considered one of the best in his division while baked YOU ARE THE MAN!!!

I don’t know enough about Parisian personally to say whether he deserves the shit he brought on himself or not, but as a former competitive judoka, I’m gonna miss watching his sick-ass throws for the next 9 months.

@ Ample

How do you decide what’s fair for roid heads in comparison to pill poppers? Illegal drugs are illegal drugs. Once you start seperating different drugs with different penalties, you open a can of worms that can only get worse.

Next you’ll have the Diaz boys complaining that they “only smoked some pot” why bust our nuts?

@ Crap Factory and Batman.

Yah dude, the pain killers worked really well for him didnt they. His striking looked reminiscent of Anderson Silva and his athleticism in the fight was parallel to the agility of GSP wasnt it?

Sure the pills might have numbed him up a bit but he didnt win decisevly, it was a boring and slow fight. HE could barley keep his hands up or have enough energy to punch.

I know in most cases people get barred for roids or something to boost your already healthy body. Karo was taking pain killers just so he could climb into the octogan. That dude has a mountain of medical problems and if he were healthy he wouldnt need it.

All im saying is look at the intentions behind his stupid decision. Yes it was dumb to not be honest about your medical background, yes it was stupid to fight when your probably not healthy enough to anyway, yes you broke the rules and you should be dealt with.

All im saying is tha the severity shouldnt be the same for someone who gets caught juicin vs some dude (karo) who gets poped for painkillers just to be able to make it into the cage in the first place.

@ Jimjam

Cage Potato posted an article ranking the top referees yesterday.

Hey! As a fan of Pride, I take offense to that.
Pride was the shit!

I didn’t know they had ref rankings, where do you find that?
Good thing they took away his win because I thought he lost that fight.

Winners don’t do drugs…unless you fight in Pride.

With Burt no longer able to bring home the bacon for 9 months, it appears that Ernie will have to get his lazy ass out of the tub.

WAX THE BROWS, AHHAHAHAHAHAHHA

That sucks, those are some strong painkillers. It’s a good thing he got caught by the commission and not the police, my friend got busted for giving away a couple of hydromorphones to his friend, the guy that took them got into trouble as well.

@ Ample

If it takes the pain away, he totally has an advantage though. It makes him stronger in a sense that he becomes somewhat impervious to pain, thus giving him an advantage.

Commissioner John Bailey’s statement that the NSAC “can’t have fighters drifting in and out of reality” should have far-reaching implications. At a minimum, I foresee lifetime bans for B.J. Penn, Tim Sylvia, Tito Ortiz, Patrick Cote’s friends, and anyone who has ever had any affiliation with the Lion’s Den at any point in his life.

@ Ample

NSAC is doing exactly what the should do. Why let fighters get away with anything illegal at all? Performance enhancing or not, he shouldn’t have been loaded up on them. It provides an advantage. He got what he deserved.

What the fuck are you morons talking about?
Get a life for gods sake.

That sucks, a 9 month suspension with a massive fine and no win to show for it? Those painkillers arent even performance enhancing, sure they take the pain away but they dont boost energy or make you stronger.

Damn the NSAC is on their rag right now. Dont fuck around

@ WEC Fan

Tessellate? Haha.
95% of the guys that posts here, have no fucking clue what you’re talking about.
Nice suggestion though. Let’s not forget that eliminating the WEC also takes away the term “cagefighting” and that would definitely be a good thing.

@ Dr and FanBoy

The UFC should just get rid of the WEC and take all of their fighters.
The production quality of WEC looks like a poor-mans UFC.
And what’s up with the stupid Hexagon? WEC fighters are tough as nails and they deserve 2 more sides added to their canvas for the art. I know Hexagons have the advantage in that they tessellate, but it’s pointless because there will never be more than one scheduled fight going on at once.

Karo is one of those guys I feel a bit of pity for. Sure, he can be a real dick. But you get the impression he just wasn’t raised right, and he kind of ambles through life making some bad choices and also having some shitty luck. He seems like he has had a really tough go of it, though. The guys family had him fighting grown men in Mexico for a few hundred bucks when he was 14. That isn’t exactly a normal childhood, to have to support your family by beating grown men up in a third world country in no-rules matches. It isn’t any wonder why he has such a chip on his shoulder, and why he got burnt out on the sport by the time he reached 24. He had already been fighting for over a decade at that point. He is one of those guys I really want to feel for, but then he opens his mouth and pisses everyone off. So all I have left is a bit of pity, since he could have really been a strong contender, but now injuries, suspensions, psych issues, and failure to evolve have left him as nothing more than a footnote in this sport.

Kim won that fight, so good.

@ graze

What the fuck did you just type? English fool!

well i dun think he did it very intentionally tho it sucked see kim lose coz he was definatly the better fighter in that fight

Good for Karo. I hear Burger King is hiring. Only source of income, HA!

Ding fries are done!
Ding fries are done!
I work at burger king making flame broiled whoppers I wear paper hats.
Do you want an apple pie with that?
Do you want an apple pie with that?

poor Karo, maybe he should apply some heat to his hamstring

@ Dr

Hey, you won’t have to see fighting for the UFC anymore.
I think he’s with WEC now, and hardly anyone watches that.

Now if they could only do something about that midget cousin of his we’d be free from seeing The Cock and Anvil for 9 months.

Although, I do enjoy watching GAYmburyan get beat down.

Check out Josh Rosenthal raising Karo’s arm in the photo. Great job Josh, it’s moments like this that make you the #5-ranked referee in the world.

Good. He deserved it. Cocky mofo.

It never pays to cheat. It actually costs.

This was one of the rare times that I was annoyed by Joe Rogan. He was so biased when calling the fight, it was insane.