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Keeping It Negative: Five Reasons to Worry Leading Up to GSP-Koscheck II


(We were going to make a joke about how we were not impressed by your pool party performance, but we can’t lie. Totally impressed. PicProps: The Dragon Zone)

As of this writing, Josh Koscheck is set to go off as a 3-1 underdog in the UFC 124 main event, according to most odds makers. Suffice it to say, the guy is not the popular pick among fans or media types to defeat Georges St. Pierre when they climb into the cage this Saturday. With good reason: We’ve already seen this fight once before at UFC 79. St. Pierre won in fairly dominant fashion and went on to amass a seven-fight win streak, erasing any doubt as to who is King Shit of Fuck Mountain at 170-pounds. We have no real reason to believe this bout will be any different. So why am I not 100 percent confident? Because I’m the kind of pessimistic son of a bitch who always fears worst, that’s why.

Also, there legitimately are some things that I find troubling just days before this fight. Here are five of them  …


1. St. Pierre’s distractions.

GSP’s “Sportscenter” commercial has been in heavy rotation on the Worldwide Leader in recent days, getting good play during the farce that was Pats vs. Jets on Monday Night Football. Though he admittedly only has a couple of monosyllabic lines in the spot, the champ even does a pretty good acting job for a non-native English speaker. But the cynic in me wonders: What’s he doing filming commercials in the weeks leading up to a title fight, anyway? Couple that with his recent trip to the Philippines, the disruption to his normal routine while filming “TUF” and the fact that this fight is in his hometown (as much curse as blessing, most fighters say), and you gotta wonder if we’re really going to see the best, most prepared St. Pierre in the cage Saturday night.

2. GSP letting Koscheck get to him.

Spending 12 weeks (or whatever) filming a reality show alongside Josh Koscheck has got to be a unique and altogether loathsome experience. Just existing in such close proximity to that kind of infantile douchebaggery probably makes you want to claw your own eyes out. GSP obviously coached the shit out of it during the show and never really responded to any of Koscheck’s attempts at baiting him, but he’s admitted this week that all that crap really did get under his skin. Hopefully not so much that it effects his mindset or game planning for this fight. Which leads me to this …

3. Focusing on the finish.

St. Pierre says his whole training camp has been focused on not letting this fight go the distance. Meanwhile, you’ve got GSP’s occasional boxing coach Freddie Roach predicting an early knockout via left hook. Let’s hope that last bit is subterfuge. I think it would be a serious mistake for St. Pierre to let some mixture of his desire to punch Koscheck in the face and the current popular backlash against wrestling force him away from the cautious and effective style he’s used to build his current win streak. I just hope when he says he’s been focusing on the finish he means the GNP and/or submission variety.  

4. Koscheck is taking this shit seriously.

One need only watch the five-plus minutes of a morose, dead-eyed Josh Koscheck answering all of Ariel Helwani’s questions in a psychotic monotone while refusing to look anywhere but the floor to know Kos isn’t fucking around this time. Dude says he’s only leaving his hotel room before the fight for weigh-ins and press functions. In fact, it’s kind of creepy near the end of the video when Koscheck slithers: “Maybe I am a bad guy. Maybe that is the case.” Getting his Hannibal Lecter on. Some people online say he looked nervous? Looked focused to me.

5. History tells us the MMA Gods will smile upon you only so long.

You ever notice that it seems like every time the mainstream media keys into the fact that someone is supposed to be a really good MMA fighter – Kimbo Slice, Fedor, Brock Lesnar – that guy immediately goes out and loses his next fight? It’s like in the old VH-1 “Behind the Music” specials when they would spend 15 minutes of the show telling you how great things were going for the band and then before the first commercial break they’d say: “Metallica was riding high, but it was all about to come crashing down.” At that point, you knew what was coming next – boom – bus wreck. Poor Cliff Burton gets spit out on the side of a dark highway and has a goddamn RV land on his face.

Is it St. Pierre’s turn to be Cliff Burton? I hope not. But look, at the risk of sounding a bit too superstitious, I think it’s pretty safe to say GSP has reached the “riding high” stage of his career and that the recent history in this sport has taught me to view funny ESPN videos, Gatorade sponsorships and training-with-the-stars footage as harbingers of doom. Need I point out that the three previous times a UFC champion appeared as a coach on “TUF” – Randy Couture, Rampage Jackson and Big Nog — he lost the championship in the ensuing bout? Can GSP overcome these precedents? Probably, but that’s not going to stop me from worrying about it until about 11:30 on Saturday night.

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RwilsonR- December 10, 2010 at 11:28 am
Nah, I gotcha, Get Off Me. I just didn't want all of the fellas north of the border to think my shitting on their country was anything more than idle joking. And the Bill Murray reference was not lost on me, even if I forgot to extol its brilliance. He definitely looks like that!

Plus, all joking about GSP's sexuality aside, I agree with everything you said in defense of him. His fights with Fitch and BJ were awesome! The fight against Alves, remember he came into that one with his elbow swollen to four times its normal size, and then tore his groin early on, but still made Alves look bad despite those injuries. His fight against Hardy was the only one where I wanted more out of him. I felt as though he had been working BJJ so much, he desperately wanted a submission. And he would have had it, too, if not for Hardy's determination. But I was frustrated that he refused to GnP Hardy. But it was still an interesting fight, and virtually nobody at this level consistently dominates top competition the way GSP does. I fucking love the guy!
Shaky- December 10, 2010 at 5:15 am
GSP fought Matt Hughes at UFC 79, and Kos at UFC 74
Gladheateher- December 9, 2010 at 11:16 pm
BJ Penn called George out and said he was a quitter and had no heart. That lit a fire inside so deeply in George that he wanted to make BJ quit. We all know what happened and we all know Koshcheck has been busy lighting fires this year.
Get Off Me- December 9, 2010 at 9:52 pm
@RwilsonR
U know me better than that I hope. Go back and read what I wrote, imagine a friend of yours was saying it too you....what does piss me off is that you ignored my comparison between Ernie McCracken and John Danaher.......that should have been a sign but i digress.

@mmaislandjunkie
GSP commands respect, most people who cheer for him do so just for that alone.
I think the criticism of GSP "tea bagging" another competitor for five rounds truly exemplifies a fly by night fans assesment of what kind of difficulties a championship fight presents.... Think about Jon Fitch, Dan Hardy, Thiago Alves as they fought those five rounds, you don't think they wanted to win, you think they wanted to get dominated like that....Jon Fitch v. GSP was an outstanding fight....GSP's groin went out on him against Alves late in the fight, so sorry he couldn't finish that one....The fight with Hardy to me said more about Hardy's fortitude and fighting spirit than anything else... GSP has lost by submission to Hughes, comes back and submits him....GSP loses to Serra by TKO, comes back and beats Serra by TKO....GSP dominates Koscheck in first fight for 3 rounds, comes back and dominates him again, but for five rounds most likely....GSP rises to the challenge and unlike the Maynard's, Shields and Fitch's of the UFC, always at least attempts to improve his position on the ground, he takes risks, if you want proof go watch in his fights how often he transitions to half guard to side control.
I try not to look at it as GSP being inadequate for not finishing a number 1 contender, I would like to think of it as a sign of good competition and strong effort from the Hardy's, Fitch's and Alve's of the world, it's not so easy to put those types of guys away.

Condit put Hardy away but came within a pussy whisker of getting lit up himself....mad respect for that and i would like to see him fight GSP perhaps before he moves to 185.
RwilsonR- December 9, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Okay, okay, Get Off Me... I was just kidding about the Canadian/French stuff being gay. I actually have only been to Vancouver, and the people there seemed the exact same as the people on the other side of the border. And I've heard Montreal is a great party town, with first class women. Plus, most of the Canadian guys on CP seem pretty fucking cool, so I really was just joking. Maybe if I ever get a chance to go to Montreal, you can point me in the right direction for the best poutine and poon.

Although I really don't particularly like French people - especially Parisians! I have no idea how that translates to French-Canadians, though.

So I'll fully admit to being wrong about those points.
RwilsonR- December 9, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Okay, just to stir the pot because I am bored at work - would anybody really be surprised if GSP were gay? I mean... really?

I know he is surrounded by a lot of girls in this pic that has way too many guys cramped in it for my own comfort level, but putting that aside, he gives off a lot of other signs:
- He is waaayyyyy too polite for a straight man.
- He is waaayyyyy too comfortable discussing his feelings.
- He never seems to have any steady, solvently heterosexual relationship.
- He dresses a little too sharply for any straight man I know.
- He is French-Canadian, which by nature of being connected to French culture, is gay.
- The guy who primarily trains him to roll around on the ground with other men has a generally creepy vibe and weird comb-over that makes me assume he drives an unmarked windowless van that can often be found parked outside of elementary schools.
- He seems like he enjoys his spandex booty shorts a little too much.
- He targetted Matt Hughes' crotch in their second and third fights with an accuracy only possessed by someone who has undoubtedly spent some time there before.
- He is French-Candian, which by nature of being connected to Canadian culture, is gay (sorry steampunk & canadian chronic, didn't mean you).
- He tore his groin fighting Thiago Alves, yet still kept humping him for the next three rounds, which shows a tenacity above and beyond a normal man's for wanting to do that sort of thing.
- He refused to spend 5 rounds humping Jon Fitch, which means he has discriminating taste when it comes to the men he is willing to lay on top of.

Those are just a few of the signs I have noticed. I'm sure others have noticed more, which they can feel free to share. I still love GSP as a fighter... but would anybody really be surprised?

edit: I was just kidding about the French&Canadian stuff. I really like GSP, and most of the Canadian guys who post here. I have never been to Montreal, but I have heard wonderful things about both the city, and its sex trade.
mmaislandjunkie- December 9, 2010 at 7:24 pm
gsps lame and most of his fans that love him only cheer for winners. because no fan can really say they enjoy watching gsp attempt to tea bag another competitor for five rounds, i mean unless they like that kinda stuff.
jizzninja- December 9, 2010 at 7:14 pm
If Gsp is working on boxing I have no doubt he's gonna be a beast to handle on his feet. Also if alves coudn't drop him kos is a lost kos.
Lutador Vomitando- December 9, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Some sensitive people from Montreal. I'm pretty sure RWR was just joking.

But just because there are a lot of hookers in Montreal, doesn't mean French people aren't gay. And French=gay stereotypes aren't 'played out' when they are justified by pretty much every French person I have ever met. That may be anecdotal, but if it was just a singular anecdote, would it be a stereotype? Probably not.

Plus, I LOL'd at the Matt Hughes crotch one.
Chael Sonnens Balls- December 9, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Chael Sonnen's Balls approves - RwilsonR- message!
And BTW all French ARE gay! Its just a fact of life like the squirrel size brains of women and democrats.
DazedNConfused- December 9, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Agreed with Get Off Me, Montreal is a crazy party town and has tons of beautiful woman. I only visited once but It was by far the best place I've gone in Canada. The whole Frenchies are gay talk is pretty overblown. Come and check it out, those strip clubs will make you want to run out and get a french dictionary so you can learn how to say "How Much" without completely butchering it.

As for me wanting to see GSP vs. BJ 3... mmm not so much, unless, like I said, Penn can destroy Fitch. If he can do that I will allow the thoughts that BJ is improved at 170 come back to me. The UFC would snatch up that fight as a huge PPV seller and wouldn't really care if you, or anyone else, didn't like the idea of it because they know you'd still watch it anyways! haha. Shit I know I would.
Get Off Me- December 9, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Just saw the Helwani/Kos interview..I know I may offend some of Helwani's groupies, but this guy needs to do some work on interviewing skills, a place to start is not preparing a question like "how do you feel going into your first main event fight" follwed up by "You have fought in the main event?Was that the last fight" when Kos told him he fought at fight for the troops main event....That just shows how green Helwani really is.

Also GSP Gay? French Canadians Gay? Even if you may be bored at work, it shows you truly have never been up here in Montreal or experienced what our French Canadian culture has to offer.
Just so you know, we have more strip clubs than Vegas here, the girls take it all off unlike in the States(no pg shit). Our women are beautiful up here, anyone could attest to this if they spent a night on ste-catherine, de la montagne, st-denis, old port etc...
I do agree though that the guy who looks a little like Bill Murray in Kingpin does drive around in a Chevy Van with the deep black tints.
Dante- December 9, 2010 at 2:57 pm
^^^T-shirt worthy^^^
Komodo- December 9, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Weird. I got a totally different vibe from that vid with Helwani and Koscheck. I thought he just looked nauseated and a little stressed out :P

Btw, "King Shit of Fuck Mountain" = LULZ

=WAR GSP=
Gladheateher- December 9, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Assuming the feet in girlie white sandles at the top is a girl There is 8 girls and 8 guys. I also assume the black thing behind GSP is a girl, I say this because the shim is wearing some sort of bikini top and has hands on George.

What im really surprised about is how many dudes are cramped into such a tiny area for this photo, I had to count a few times. Seems like an extra one popped up each time.
sam bowman- December 9, 2010 at 2:10 pm
I think that GSP will take this fight lightly and will be fighting off emotion instead of how he really fight, which is what Kos wants and i think it will work in favor for kos. i got to go with the bad guy on this one. but if i were to put money ont it it would go to GSP. but man i really want kos to win. no disrespect to GSP tho he is an amazing fighter and person
RwilsonR- December 9, 2010 at 1:58 pm
@ DazedNReallyConfused - do you honestly want to see GSP vs. BJ 3? There is no intrigue as to who would win. GSP smashed him in the last fight. I would only watch it to see BJ's bitchass get pounded again.

If GSP just destroys Kos, maybe he really will go up to MW now that Marquardt is out of the running with his loss to Okami. I think Marquardt's run at the title is what always held GSP back.
Joe-Say Aldo- December 9, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Ummm... anybody else think the dude-to-chick ratio is a little askew in that pool party picture?
mt59801- December 9, 2010 at 1:50 pm
This is a Pro-wrestling match . We have the much loved(even by my wife) GSP/MMA white knight vs the epic douchebag heel of the century kos. I'm not a fan of either fighter but I have a ton of respect for GSP's ability to stick to a gameplan and outclass opponents at every turn. Kos is still relevant because of AKA and the fact he's a go to guy for the UFC. I hate the fucker, but the majority of his losses have been for fights he's taken on short notice. Don't get me wrong, he's good but he's not a champion he's a gatekeeper and this fight will prove it. Matt Sera got under gsp's skin too and signed his own death warrant in the rematch, I don't see this fight ending any differently.
sam bowman- December 9, 2010 at 1:33 pm
i want a new champ. GSP has been kind of boring lately and i think he has lost his spark, i think with a lose to kos he will regain his spark and will come back stronger than ever.. and come on who wouldent want to see them fight three time
Dubbs- December 9, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Chercher les bitches!!! dans le spa, bubbly!! Jarj Sunt Peeearrr!!!
Shatski- December 9, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Kos looked just as annoyed as anything else. Maybe he's just letting his dislike slowly boil into hatred so he can use that in the fight. It was a bit creepy, though. Wouldn't be surprised if someone didn't go into his room after the weigh in and find him with clenched fists, staring at GSP video with lipstick on.
DazedNConfused- December 9, 2010 at 12:48 pm
If GSP dominates Koscheck than it really is time for him to move up. No other fight at 170 really catches my eye just yet. If BJ totally wrecks Fitch theeeeeeen, i'd consider that being his last until he goes to 185.

Koscheck will always be number two, he is a solid fighter and I think will someday get that belt, even if it is only for a little while. Even though he can be a total cock, and really is a dumbass, he has MMA skills, a suburb wrestling background, and an improving standup game with solid K.O. power.

That being said, go GSP:D.
Stak40- December 9, 2010 at 12:40 pm
I just recounted and i see 8 and 8. This is not trying to determine chickadudes. This is still not impressive. Did i mention anything about there being an upset in the upcoming GSP/Kos fight?
ReDx- December 9, 2010 at 12:39 pm
UFC 79? Wasn't it 74?
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