I just wanna see another Battle Royale between the Noon’s and the Diaz’s post fight, centre cage

miragliotta via standing sidechoke…forgot how much I love that last gif. He surely got robbed of submission of the night. on a sidenote, has anyone heard any updates on those oxygen cans kj and mo were tokin on between rounds?

So I’m assuming most of the people here think Jon Jones is a dirty fighter for landing 12 to 6 elbows on Matt Hamill….

Really dont understand how people have been comparing the illegal knee to what Paul Daley did. They arent even in the same ballpark.

I may be stupid and have a bad and short memory, but I don’t recall a combination of strikes from Noons before that “late punch”. Gurgel threw like 37 powerless strikes when Noons was ducked down. Then he got up, the bell rang and he threw the punch. I don’t care enough to check, though.

“It was the heat of the moment. I looked to try and finish the fight or finish the combination.”-KJ Noons-

With an illegal blow? No, thats not dirty at all.

Gurgels’ a fool for standing and bangin tho

KJ isn’t paul Daley dirty but that knee was uncalled for. If it had happened in a state that gave a shit about anything other than horse fucking and killing the retarded this would have been real bad.

The punch wasnt dirty since it was mid combo/flurry

The ref IMO is the one who needs to be taken care of.

Gurgel is stupid.
The referee was shitty.
Hendo is dirty. In the post-fight interview he admitted the second shot was to shut Bisping up. That’s pretty dirty. I hate Bisping.
Kos doesn’t poke that many eyes, he usually just fakes he’s been poked. (which happened only twice, I think.)
Noons is a douche.
Noons vs Diaz rematch = Not interested. Noons vs Thomson or Melendez would be better. Or Noons vs Clay Guida with Herb Dean reffing. Most hair ever in an MMA fight.

When I was watching the fight I thought that he launched the punch at the end of the combo right before the bell and it just happened to land a moment after the bell sounded. It seemed like he almost didn’t even know how bad he hurt him, he didn’t even look at Gurgel on the way to his corner. Also nowhere does it say that kneeing another part of the body other than the head is illegal, ever. I don’t see why more people don’t do it other than the instability it causes making you open for a takedown. I’d knee you right on the middle of your collarbone as hard as I could to snap that shit. It won’t knock somebody out but go ahead and try to use your arm effectively with a broken collarbone. I ended a fight once before it really got going from the bottom by digging down and grabbing a guy’s collarbone and then twisting sideways as hard as I could. Just the threat and shock of somebody going for something so unusual changed his mind and I didn’t even have to break it (he obviously wasn’t a professional fighter, but still). I’m neutral on Noons, the kid comes to fight.

I don’t consider the late punch or the knee as being dirty. But Noons yelling afterwards at Gurgel “That’s how we do it in BOXING!” was dirty.

I’m with Frank Shamrock, that was clearly a legal knee. Gurgel was clearly stood upright. That’s just MMA… under the rules when Shamrock was still relevant.

I’ll give Noons the benefit on the hook at the end round 1. It was thrown at the bell and he was covering up so yeah, he may not have heard it anyway.

And it wasn’t that the ref was indecisive in the stoppage, gurgel got knocked down, but was trying to get up and grab a leg. After he couldn’t get it ate 2-3 smaller shots, the ref stepped in and stopped it. But that knee was illegal. Noons should not have thrown it and whether it landed or not, whether it was before or after the ref stepped in doesn’t make much difference on the legality.

I will agree that the person most responsible for Gurgel’s concussion, is Gurgel. Does Brock Lesnar try to win us over by doing a flying guard pull and subbing people with Gogoplata’s? No. He wins by doing what he’s good at. Jorge, I would be very entertained by seeing someone sub Noons. You’re record in your “kick-boxing” (or MMA as it’s also known) matches should tell you something; you are not a great kickboxer.

I really wish people would lay off of Paul Daley. Poor guy thought Kos was getting attacked by a Fraggle and was just trying to knock it off his head. You’d think Kos would be grateful…

@ballkick

Cool quote bro. Very true, very true.

There’s no good excuse for the knee at the end of the fight. But in every feed of the fight I’ve seen, Noons lands that last KO shot in the 1st before the bell & Gurgel is on his way to the mat by the time it rings.

Maybe my audio isn’t synced up correctly but I’ve seen the fight on 4 different media players & in all of them, the punch is thrown & lands before the bell.

@Shane Darwin,

How are elbows to the head or 12 to 6 elbows even comparable to throwing a knee to the head of a downed opponent?

12 to 6 elbows ARE a STUPID rule, and Strikeforce not allowing elbows is purely their discision (and it’s a fighters responsibility to know the rules of the org they are fighting in), but isn’t “No knees to the head of a grounded opponent” a pretty universal US State Athletic commission rule? If that’s true, there’s no excuse.

Regardless of whether he is “dirty” or not, the blame is still 100% with the ref, he failed TWICE to get between fighters…Once at the bell to end the first, and 2nd when he was calling a stop to the fight.

I think Hendo can be a dirty fighter. Especially back in the days when it was he and Lindland up there in Oregon. I don’t remember exactly the source now since it was years ago, but he and Lindland used to talk about how it wasn’t illegal if you could get away with it, and how they would use tactics like trying to bend back fingers and break small joints while the hands weren’t visible while they were grappling with an opponent.

The late shot on Bisping would have seemed a lot worse if we all didn’t hate Bisping. And Hendo wouldn’t have beat Franklin if it weren’t for some fouls, most notably the fingers in the eyes.

KJ’s not a dirty fighter. You recall anything from his past that would suggest this sort of stuff is a pattern?
You want to blame someone for the fiasco at the end of the fight blame Kerry Hatley the incompetent referee.
Even more so blame the Texas athletic commission for even letting Gurgel out for the 2nd rd. and assigning fools like Hatley and Jon Schorle to ref. Ridiculous.

@Shane Darwin, you know what dirty fighters do, throw punches clearly after the bell. It’s not hard to stop what you were doing or pull your punches when the bell rings. If KJ can’t hear the bell then he should talk to Matt Hamill.
Dirty Fighter – Cheick Kongo, purposely knees al-turk in the balls after taking a groin shot himself.

Yesterday? As in Sunday? No, no, no, the big dogs have the weekends off. Me, Mruss. Mruss, Me. You know, the big dogs.

A good name, like good will, is got by many actions and lost by one.
Never had any preconceptions of KJ Noons before this fight ,…but I do now.

We covered this yesterday fairly comprehensively….lots of people repeating what has already been said….as usual.

@Shane Darwin
Hendo a dirty fighter? That second shot on Bisping was not dirty, it’s called a receipt for all the shit talk during TUF.
Koscheck, very dirty though, good example.

Thanks for tuning in, folks. We have Nick Diaz and KJ Noons on the line, who are set to square off at Strikefarce: The Last Hurrah. Nick, let’s start with you, how are you feeling leading up to the fight?

Diaz:”That’s a stupid question. It’s like, how am I supposed to feel, you know. If I feel good… great, y’know. If not, that’s not good.”

Okaaaaaay. KJ, same question.

Noons:”What, my hair? I’m just gonna let it go and see what happens. Put a lil water in it, hope for the best.”

Riiiiiiiiiight. I’m gonna hang up now.

Not to defend Noons, but if you watch, he actually looks at the ref following the knockdown…..as if to say….”you wanna stop this, bro?”. That ref should be forced to watch Jersey Shore for 2 weeks nonstop as punishment.

I wouldn’t call Noons a dirty fighter. He threw a dirty knee, yes, but I wouldn’t call him a dirty fighter. I know, I know, that doesn’t make any damn sense, but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

“Noons vs Diaz.. Last Call”

Noons is nowhere near a “dirty fighter”. You know what dirty fighters do? Poke eyes (Kos), strike opponents when they are already knocked out (Henderson), etc.

Noons got carried away and disobeyed a very stupid rule. It’s not any more “dirty” than Bones’s elbows to Hamill, or a Strikeforce fighter forgetting elbows aren’t allowed on the ground *in Strikeforce*.

A knee to the face when sitting isn’t any more harmful than a knee to the face while standing. It’s a freaking FIGHT, pansies.

Is it me, or does Noons resemble that tool Evan Marriott from that crappy reality show “Joe Millionaire” in that pic above?

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Noons rhymes with poons and goons.

I could be wrong on this, because my EliteXC history is a bit shaky… but was Noons birthed from Gary Shaw’s vagina?

Boo this man… BOO HIM!!!

Noons is a taint-licker.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good excuse or a shitty one either.

And yes, agree with Dano.

The first one is a tough call, the second one is pretty clearly illegal (even if there was no contact, which there was obviously some, the intent was there). Plus people just sort of seem to hate Noons.

The knee missed, but the ankle hit him square in the face. Regardless, he shouldn’t have been throwing that knee A) with Jorge turtled up on the ground or B) the ref’s hand on his chest trying to give him the stoppage he was campaigning for seconds earlier.

We can all agree he probably would’ve won the fight anyways, but that doesn’t make either of his late shots passable.

Just because his illegal blow didn’t connect doesn’t mean he isn’t a dirty fighter — Why the eff was he throwing a knee there in the first place? Seriously…How do you go from asking the ref for a stoppage to throwing a knee that should it land, is obviously illegal?

I find it funny how stupid Noons and King Mo are for huffing compressed oxygen before the fight and between rounds. Regardless if it gives you an advantage it makes you look like a cheater. I mean honestly, huffing anything during a televised fight is so retarded I’m almost at a loss for words. Remind me if I ever fight in texas to have some compressed meth smoke to give me that extra boost in the championship rounds.

I feel like KJ Noons should be playing the asshole jock boyfriend of the hot chick that I don’t have a chance with, sometime in the early 90′s in a fantasy montage movie that never happened. But then he does something shitty and she gets mad at him and suddenly, at the prom, she realizes the error of her ways and comes running into the arms of the reclusive but misunderstood Steampunk22 (who wasn’t going to go anyways but showed up reluctantly at the last minute). “Don’t you, da da dun, forget about me….”

I’m just kidding.

I totally have a chance with hot chicks.

Wow! I wrote all that crap above, and I could have just summed it up by completely agreeing with danomite’s brief statement. Brilliance in your brevity, dano.

I actually agree with Noons’ excuse on the late punch at the end of Rd 1. He was pretty much in motion, and you should be trying to turn it on before you know a round is going to end. To me it was akin to a late hit on a Quarterback when he releases the ball, but you are already lunging through the air to tackle him. I think the person to blame in this instance is the ref, who shouldn’t have just walked a concussed Gurgel over to his corner. I don’t think Noons threw the illegal punch with the intention of it being a late hit, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t illegal. The ref needed to do something, whether it be to deduct a point, or call the match a DQ or no-contest.

To me, the knee is less defensible. Noons clearly threw it, and Gurgel was clearly on the ground. The “I was caught up in the moment” excuse isn’t a good one when you clearly and blatantly violate the rules. You have to make a conscious effort to follow the rules throughout the whole match, and if you are too blinded by emotion to do so, maybe you should just go back to fighting in the street and not for sport. And again… another failure by the ref.

Dirty Fighter? No.
Douchebag? Yes.

I agree it was illegal, but by no means was it on Paul Daleys level.

That is the worst possible angle for that .GIF. As I said in the other post, I have a DVR and I should take a screen shot – with the angle being directly beside and level with the fighters – showing that the knee did not connect with Gurgel’s face at all.

KJ looks like he should be in a shampoo commercial for some product designed for stylish modern guys with active lifestyles, and which also prevents flakes.