MMA Fighter Challenges People to Punch Him in the Face, Everyone Fails

Lesnar Doesn’t Have the Internet, UFC Not Even Close to a Network Deal, and Other UFC 91 Revelations


(Lesnar: title belt, stitches, and all. Photo courtesy of Sherdog.)

Dana White and the cast of fighters from UFC 91 were surprisingly forthcoming at the post-fight press conference on Saturday night, with one exception. Near the end of the Q & A session, a reporter asked Brock Lesnar what the essential differences were between being a UFC employee and a WWE one, from a business standpoint.

“Don’t answer that question,” White said to his new heavyweight champ, only half-jokingly. Lesnar said he wouldn’t. It got a laugh. Seems like these two are going to get along just fine. When someone brought up the possible Kimbo Slice-Brock Lesnar comparison, based more on the number of pro fights each man had than the quality, White was quick to shoot it down.

“It drove me crazy when people would compare him to Kimbo Slice. If I had hair I’d pull it out. He’s far from Kimbo Slice.”

“I don’t even know that guy,” said Lesnar, who had already claimed not to “have the internet” or even read newspapers when asked if he was discouraged by critics in the press. “Who is he?”

“You’re lucky,” said White.

But the most interesting disclosures on the night came from White, who admitted that the UFC was “not very close” to signing a network deal “with the market like this,” then proceeded to explain why that was just fine with him.

“The networks are so strong they pretty much tell you the deal you’re going to get whether you like it or not. We don’t need it. We’re happy as hell to be on Spike TV. When the right deal comes, we’ll take it.”

White also spoke about how impressed he was with the performance from middleweight Demian Maia.

“After his fight tonight Joe Silva and I were talking about him. We’re making some moves in the 185-pound division and we’re thinking of him.”

Asked if that meant Maia might find himself as a coach on The Ultimate Fighter, White smirked and responded, “Could be.”

Ex-champ Randy Couture was in as good of spirits as can be expected, considering the many discolored lumps on his face. He said he thought he was doing well and never felt the punch that dropped him, and thought he has successfully avoided it.

“It’s one thing to find guys that are big and heavy, but another to find guys with 85-inch reach. I slipped that son of a bitch, but just not enough.”

Asked if there was anything that surprised him about Lesnar, Couture responded “the go-go Gadget arms.”

“The only thing that was going through my mind was I threw about forty right hands and I was wondering when the ref was going to stop it,” Lesnar said of the bout’s ending. “Then I thought Randy was going to do superman on me and stand up.”

Couture wouldn’t say what was next for him. Lesnar was more forthright, saying he felt he needed a rematch with Frank Mir and calling the UFC heavyweight championship victory one of his proudest accomplishments.

“My first NCAA title meant a lot to me, but this, I never expected this in my wildest dreams. I don’t know what to say.”

The press conference finally came to a close when White’s publicist told him that he had to leave in order to do that evening’s Sportscenter.

White was more than happy to oblige, saying, “I thought I’d never hear that.”

Comments

  1. Impartial bystander Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:01


    That'll do pig... that'll do.
  2. laredoggg Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:13


    i dont understand. are there 2 heavyweight champions now? was there controversy over coutures' belt because of a contract dispute ? please enlighten me ! ~ thankyou
  3. Farthammer Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:19


    @laredoggg, Yes, when Couture returned, they gave him back his belt. While he was gone, Big Nog won an "interim" belt. So now Brock has one belt while Nog and Mir will fight for the other belt. Then Brock will fight the winner of that fight to unite the two belts into one. Also, I read plenty of other sports blogs; ones not just dedicated to MMA. And it looks like a lot of folks honestly think having an ex-WWE employee win a title proves the absurdity of MMA. I don't agree with them, but just throwing it out there that even with the huge growth of popularity, MMA still has a long way to go.
  4. Geriatric Peon Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:19


    The "interim" belt that Nog holds was created when the full belt got held up in the contract negotiations with Couture. Lesnar will fight the winner of Mir/Nog to make the belt whole again.
  5. Fenix Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:24


    UFC just needs a deal with HBO and things will blow up for them right there. Boxing needs to sit on the bench now. Forget CBS, ABC, FOX, or NBC! Poor Gonzaga, no one cared :'( lol, well I did. Good win man, good win. "Coffee and cigarettes" LMAO!! Good show Kenny! Heres my dilemma, I wanna see Nog VS Lesnar but I really wanna see Brock avenge his loss to Mir. But then I REALLY cant stand the thought of Mir beating Brock and unifying the belts. I enjoy his commentary on ESPN's MMA LIVE but hes a big jackass on the show and when he wins.
  6. Karmaatemycat Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:25


    mmmm New blood... Mmmmmm.. I think im gonna send randy some flowers some ice and a Cane I won off of tito ortiz in a poker game.
  7. CanadianBuddha Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:29


    Couture had the belt and left...UFC never stripped him of the title.. Nog and Tim Sylvia fought for the interimbelt while Couture was gone.... Couture and Lesnar were the first fight in a 4 man tournament.... Mir and Nog fight Dec 27th to see who gets that belt and sometime next year Lesnar and the winner (Nog) will fight for the undisputed HW title :)
  8. Anonymous Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:30


    thanks for the great input, who did couture beat to get the belt ?
  9. JTho Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:34


    I think Barnett would give Lesnar trouble.
  10. Crap Factory Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:38


    Now that Brock has some training under his belt, Mir will have a harder time beating him. If it's Nog he fights, that will be a better match up.
  11. Razzle465 Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:41


    My left pinky would give Lesnar trouble. What an idiot. Hope he loses his very next fight ... preferably by a kneebar.
  12. Anonymous Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:44


    I think Brock would overpower ANYONE in UFC's HW division. Only guy I think will eventually stop him is another world class wrestler in Cain Velazquez.
  13. Fenix Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:46


    Couture defeated Tim Sylvia for the belt. Then he deffended against Gonzaga by destroying him. Then he left... Anyway, you need to see those fights.
  14. mayhem420 Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:51


    Randy beat Tim for the HW title via 5 round UD. Randy defended the belt from Gonzaga via TKO in round 3 Randy left the UFC under a contract dispute UFC kept Randy as the champ while he was out to strengthen thier case against him during the dispute. Tim and Nog fought for the "interm belt" during the dispute which Nog won via submission in round 2 Mir beat Lesnar via kneebar round 1 for a shot at Nogs belt Randy came back during the taping of this current TUF. The fight had already been set between Mir and Nog when Randy announced his return. Now having 2 HW titles a min tourny was made... Randy vs. Brock fight #1 Nog vs Mir fight #2 Winners of both fight to unify the titles. Right now its Brock vs the winner of Nog Mir for the unified HW title.
  15. mma Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 03:59


    I think A guy named Shane Carwin has the best chance to win against lesnar. IMO Shane wins this fight hands down, by tko in the first round. Mark it down 2010 will be Carwin's year.
  16. Robot Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 04:02


    sucks that there is now a champ who is gonna hold the belt a while by laying on people hes just gonna take down and pound which isnt all that fun to watch from a champ. o CP when are the numbers gonna come out about the ppv buys i doubt it was close to what they were expecting.
  17. laredoggg Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 04:04


    thanks mayhem, by the way it's 4:19 got a minute ?
  18. blown32v Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 04:17


    Lesnar was able to take a hit finally! I just wanted to see someone actually hit him! Nog and Lesnar will fight. I'd like to see a Josh Barnett vs Lesnar.
  19. mayhem420 Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 04:29


    @Robot: You know for only having 4 fights under his belt it does not look like Brock is going to be just a lay and pray type of guy. Yea his big and has good wrestling but his stand up is getting better with each fight. Besides its not like he could keep Randy down all that easy.... and Randy is what 46 years old? From here on out Brock is going to fight guys like Nog (way better on the ground) or Mir (also way better on the ground) or Cain... just as good at wrestling or Carwin (also very good at wrestling) So I dont see him just laying on any of those guys. If he wants to keep this belt he is only going to have to get better. The only guy I could see him laying on is Kongo who has a very bad ground game. That is if he even gets past his next fight (which I dont think he will).
  20. better than you Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 04:33


    lesner holds the real title belt...randy never lost it nor was striped he always was the real champion. nog is the intrem champion since randy came back he really is the undisputed champion and now thats brock...the only formal thing to do is have the belts unfied but in reality once the real champion returns the intrem belt should be disolved.
  21. Patrick Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 04:52


    Carwin vs Lesnar would be the shit.
  22. Geritric Peon Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 04:57


    I look forward to Carwin vs Lesnar but with how fast Lesnar's stand up is evolving (holy crap he learned to use the clinch) I would say that Carwin better study his stand up or he will just be destroyed.
  23. Imbecile Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 05:28


    It is pretty unfair to say Lesnar is a LNP fighter. He is pretty active, and seems very happy to engage at all levels. The reality is, not only is Lesnar massive, he is also a better athlete than most of us expected. And I'm not sure some of the other prospects will be able to match up against Lesnar. Cain Velasquez and Shane Carwin both look good, but would still be giving up 30 or 40 pounds to Lesnar. Also, I have seen neither move with his speed. Carwin has the better shot between the two, since he is bigger and stronger than Cain, and seems to hit harder. With Lesnar, all three of these guys have excellent wrestling technique, but with all else being equal, Lesnar's size and speed makes him the favorite in my book. I'd like to see Lesnar take a punch from Carwin, though, to really test his chin. IMO, the best guys to have a chance against Lesnar are Nogueira and Gonzaga. Both have excellent BJJ, and Nog has a granite chin, and Gonzaga has some muscle to work in his subs. But I would have Lesnar as a favorite in any fight he enters at this point, and that includes against Fedor.
  24. tougher than Tuf Guy Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 06:24


    Lesnar is a force to be reckoned with,but I think Nog would put him away...
  25. Whip Wilson Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 06:27


    Brock Lesnar really doesn't have the internet. I know because he never returns my emails.
  26. Robot Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 06:32


    mayhem proves very good points to my judgement of lesnar, i just feel like its too soon for him to have even been granted a title shot its almost a slap in the face to other heavyweights who have been in the sport longer vying for the same chances
  27. bird-dog Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 06:35


    i wanna see lesnar take a nap like liddell did against evans.... or better yet like salmon did against evans
  28. bird-dog Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 06:37


    ... and if carwin cant do it maybe stone cold can drive his truck into the cage
  29. Vince McMahon Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 06:52


    I'll kick Brock and Dana White's ass any day! I'm 63 and on roids damnit! Once I beat them, they will both come on my show and join the Kiss My Ass club on national t.v. That's the bottom line cause the Chairman said so!
  30. MMA Fan Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 06:56


    really? against nog and fedor you would still pick lesnar? you are worst than the guys who called kimbo the man after he knocked out tank abbot dumbass
  31. Jay Smith Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 06:59


    Let's not forget all you wise muthafuckas, that Randy was doing well with him until he "got caught". He "almost" completely slipped that punch. It just barely caught him behind the ear. YES BROCK WON, AND I GIVE HIM PROPS, but he is beatable. The heavyweight division just got more interesting because of Brock, but noone is unbeatable.......just ask Bruce Lee.......Oh, he's dead isn't he?
  32. The Truth Returns Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 07:28


    You people have obviously been hit in the head too many times. Enough of this "Randy almost avoided" or he "got caught" crap. The facts are the facts and Randy got tkfo'd. It does not matter how Brock won or what could of happened in the fight. It went the way it did and that's it. You fuckers can dream up scenarios all day long but in the end, Brock still won. Will he win his next fight? Who the fuck knows and who the fuck cares. Fighters are never guaranteed victories, they are all human and all have their "off" days. The fight happened 2 days ago and you assholes are still sitting on this board wondering what could have happened. Get over it for fucks sake. Get a life and a job and quit worrying about things that have no direct reflection on your lives. Grasp reality and realize none of you has what it takes to be successful MMA'ers, this is why you troll these boards day in and day out. Wake up and quit dreaming!
  33. bird-dog Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 07:39


    im sorry what happen?... i was dreaming
  34. Dyph Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 07:40


    Just a few quick thoughts. Though he "caught" Couture and thus won the title, Lesner was not winning up until that point. And though I wholeheartedly believe he would be a serious force in hw in a year or two, this really isn't the best time for him to be champ. He IS beatable, size/natural ability/strength/etc aside and should Big Nog face him he has a bigger chance of losing than vs Couture(in my opinion). In the Couture fight by the end of the first round it was evident that Lesner was being frustrated and being worn down, not to mention the toll it was already taking on his cardio. Besides my rant above Lesner is good for the sport for his drawing power alone, and will yet to be a rounded and technically sound fighter, though he really isn't now. Along with obviously wanting to see him progress on a training and technical level, I want to see him humbled a little bit. He may just be being played as a disrespectful badass, but I doubt it. He will suffer a big loss in time and perhaps change his attitude toward the people he is fighting. He didn't seem to care that he was fighting Couture in his 4th pro fight, let alone that he won. He cared for what he won, strikes me as a fame monger.
  35. Geriatric Peon Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 08:04


    Dyph - Although I would say that the further the fight went the better it would be for Couture, how do you figure Lesnar wasn't winning the fight to that point? Neither was dominating the stand up and Lesnar had the only take downs. Couture's one achievement was getting back up from the bottom, which while is an achievement due to the size difference, it really doesn't make a case for him to be winning the fight. That being said Nog should submit Brock's.
  36. Ls18 Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 08:21


    Carwin in a couple fights time will destroy Lesnar, he has equal wrestling, WAR standup and also has to cut to make 265.
  37. Ls18 Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 08:27


    Also I think If Lesnar hadn't grabbed the cage Randy would have taken big Les down, so I would even say round one 10 - 9 Randy. Until the punch that dropped him in round two think Rndy was controlling the standup as well, It was equal-ish but I think Randy was winning.
  38. ArmChairFighter Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 08:31


    Ok...is it just me or does it seem unfulfulling to see the belt wrapped around Lesnar? While yes, he did beat Randy, he is only 3 fights into his UFC career and in my humble opinion, did not deserve the chance to fight for the title yet. It seems that the only reason he is being given the chance is that he has WWE fame (I know, not a big revelation) and that he is a freak show. I just think that when in all other divisions the men are separated by, at MOST 15 pounds - he is outweighing his opponents by 60 pounds after putting his water weight back on - 45 at weigh-in weight. I'm 180 and could probably beat MOST decent fighters that weigh 120 pounds - yes, most of them would be women but I could probably still beat them!! Lesnar brings me back to the freak-show UFC 1 through 5 days.
  39. You are morons Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 09:08


    I can't believe how delusional most of you are. Couture was not even close to winning that fight. First round was dominated by Lesnar. Couture landed one punch. Lesnar had a take down, controlled on the ground, and landed several knees. Second round was closer, but still belonged to Lesnar. And none of you are mentioning the elbow that landed and caused Randy to wobble around like a drunk for three seconds. There was far more than one punch that "caught" Couture. I understand where you are coming from about Lesnar only having four fights and did not deserve the shot. Dana set this up because the bottom line is putting on the biggest fights. Couture is OLD! He probably doesn't have much left. The UFC put Lesnar up there to create the biggest fight and generate the most money while they still could. I also don't know why everyone hates Lesnar so much. I understand the guy was a pro wrestler but he also was an excellent collegiate wrestler just like several other stars who entered the octagon and dominated, including Couture. People talk about his improving stand up, he has smashed every person he has fought in the stand up. He doesn't really need much improvement. Give this guy the credit he deserves, fourth fight and pro wrestler aside, he whooped the mighty Couture.
  40. Truth Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 10:26


    BTW, 90% of the guys here would pick the WWE over UFC if they were a college wrestling champ. The money is sooo much better. Hopefully that changes eventually. I love the pay system UFC has with the bonuses. They should do something similar with all pro sports. Take 10% of everyones contract(or whatever the math comes out to be) $$$ and double the championship losers contract money and triple or quadruple the winners. That would get their asses in gear.They would play as hard as the college guys do. Im a genius.
  41. Truth Says:

    Sun, 11/16/08 - 10:28


    Carwin seems slow as molasses. Gonzaga has enough power to put a dent in BLs head. Other than that, NOG or Mir would have too break his leg down somehow. You cant choke him, he doesnt have a neck. Go BL!
  42. Anonymous Says:

    Mon, 11/17/08 - 01:49


    Two words Shane Carwin.
  43. Dolemite Says:

    Mon, 11/17/08 - 01:52


    Two words Shane Carwin.
  44. Jay Smith Says:

    Mon, 11/17/08 - 03:57


    @ The Truth Returns: You said "Get over it for fucks sake. Get a life and a job and quit worrying about things that have no direct reflection on your lives. Grasp reality and realize none of you has what it takes to be successful MMA’ers, this is why you troll these boards day in and day out. Wake up and quit dreaming!" Ok so, you're coming on "this same board" to comment on someone elses comment like it had a direct reflection on "YOUR" life. I don't recall anyone here saying that we thought we had what it took to become a successful MMA'er (besides Tuf Guy). We're just posting our opinion you fuckstick!!! My point was simply that Brock was beatable just like your punk ass!
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