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Lesnar Doesn’t Have the Internet, UFC Not Even Close to a Network Deal, and Other UFC 91 Revelations


(Lesnar: title belt, stitches, and all. Photo courtesy of Sherdog.)

Dana White and the cast of fighters from UFC 91 were surprisingly forthcoming at the post-fight press conference on Saturday night, with one exception. Near the end of the Q & A session, a reporter asked Brock Lesnar what the essential differences were between being a UFC employee and a WWE one, from a business standpoint.

“Don’t answer that question,” White said to his new heavyweight champ, only half-jokingly. Lesnar said he wouldn’t. It got a laugh. Seems like these two are going to get along just fine. When someone brought up the possible Kimbo Slice-Brock Lesnar comparison, based more on the number of pro fights each man had than the quality, White was quick to shoot it down.

“It drove me crazy when people would compare him to Kimbo Slice. If I had hair I’d pull it out. He’s far from Kimbo Slice.”

“I don’t even know that guy,” said Lesnar, who had already claimed not to “have the internet” or even read newspapers when asked if he was discouraged by critics in the press. “Who is he?”

“You’re lucky,” said White.

But the most interesting disclosures on the night came from White, who admitted that the UFC was “not very close” to signing a network deal “with the market like this,” then proceeded to explain why that was just fine with him.

“The networks are so strong they pretty much tell you the deal you’re going to get whether you like it or not. We don’t need it. We’re happy as hell to be on Spike TV. When the right deal comes, we’ll take it.”

White also spoke about how impressed he was with the performance from middleweight Demian Maia.

“After his fight tonight Joe Silva and I were talking about him. We’re making some moves in the 185-pound division and we’re thinking of him.”

Asked if that meant Maia might find himself as a coach on The Ultimate Fighter, White smirked and responded, “Could be.”

Ex-champ Randy Couture was in as good of spirits as can be expected, considering the many discolored lumps on his face. He said he thought he was doing well and never felt the punch that dropped him, and thought he has successfully avoided it.

“It’s one thing to find guys that are big and heavy, but another to find guys with 85-inch reach. I slipped that son of a bitch, but just not enough.”

Asked if there was anything that surprised him about Lesnar, Couture responded “the go-go Gadget arms.”

“The only thing that was going through my mind was I threw about forty right hands and I was wondering when the ref was going to stop it,” Lesnar said of the bout’s ending. “Then I thought Randy was going to do superman on me and stand up.”

Couture wouldn’t say what was next for him. Lesnar was more forthright, saying he felt he needed a rematch with Frank Mir and calling the UFC heavyweight championship victory one of his proudest accomplishments.

“My first NCAA title meant a lot to me, but this, I never expected this in my wildest dreams. I don’t know what to say.”

The press conference finally came to a close when White’s publicist told him that he had to leave in order to do that evening’s Sportscenter.

White was more than happy to oblige, saying, “I thought I’d never hear that.”

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Jay Smith- November 17, 2008 at 3:57 am
@ The Truth Returns:
You said "Get over it for fucks sake. Get a life and a job and quit worrying about things that have no direct reflection on your lives. Grasp reality and realize none of you has what it takes to be successful MMA’ers, this is why you troll these boards day in and day out. Wake up and quit dreaming!"

Ok so, you're coming on "this same board" to comment on someone elses comment like it had a direct reflection on "YOUR" life. I don't recall anyone here saying that we thought we had what it took to become a successful MMA'er (besides Tuf Guy). We're just posting our opinion you fuckstick!!! My point was simply that Brock was beatable just like your punk ass!
Dolemite- November 17, 2008 at 1:52 am
Two words Shane Carwin.
Anonymous- November 17, 2008 at 1:49 am
Two words Shane Carwin.
Truth- November 16, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Carwin seems slow as molasses.

Gonzaga has enough power to put a dent in BLs head. Other than that, NOG or Mir would have too break his leg down somehow. You cant choke him, he doesnt have a neck.

Go BL!
Truth- November 16, 2008 at 10:26 pm
BTW, 90% of the guys here would pick the WWE over UFC if they were a college wrestling champ. The money is sooo much better. Hopefully that changes eventually. I love the pay system UFC has with the bonuses.

They should do something similar with all pro sports. Take 10% of everyones contract(or whatever the math comes out to be) $$$ and double the championship losers contract money and triple or quadruple the winners. That would get their asses in gear.They would play as hard as the college guys do.

Im a genius.
You are morons- November 16, 2008 at 9:08 pm
I can't believe how delusional most of you are. Couture was not even close to winning that fight. First round was dominated by Lesnar. Couture landed one punch. Lesnar had a take down, controlled on the ground, and landed several knees. Second round was closer, but still belonged to Lesnar. And none of you are mentioning the elbow that landed and caused Randy to wobble around like a drunk for three seconds. There was far more than one punch that "caught" Couture.

I understand where you are coming from about Lesnar only having four fights and did not deserve the shot. Dana set this up because the bottom line is putting on the biggest fights. Couture is OLD! He probably doesn't have much left. The UFC put Lesnar up there to create the biggest fight and generate the most money while they still could.

I also don't know why everyone hates Lesnar so much. I understand the guy was a pro wrestler but he also was an excellent collegiate wrestler just like several other stars who entered the octagon and dominated, including Couture. People talk about his improving stand up, he has smashed every person he has fought in the stand up. He doesn't really need much improvement. Give this guy the credit he deserves, fourth fight and pro wrestler aside, he whooped the mighty Couture.
ArmChairFighter- November 16, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Ok...is it just me or does it seem unfulfulling to see the belt wrapped around Lesnar? While yes, he did beat Randy, he is only 3 fights into his UFC career and in my humble opinion, did not deserve the chance to fight for the title yet. It seems that the only reason he is being given the chance is that he has WWE fame (I know, not a big revelation) and that he is a freak show. I just think that when in all other divisions the men are separated by, at MOST 15 pounds - he is outweighing his opponents by 60 pounds after putting his water weight back on - 45 at weigh-in weight.

I'm 180 and could probably beat MOST decent fighters that weigh 120 pounds - yes, most of them would be women but I could probably still beat them!!

Lesnar brings me back to the freak-show UFC 1 through 5 days.
Ls18- November 16, 2008 at 8:27 pm
Also I think If Lesnar hadn't grabbed the cage Randy would have taken big Les down, so I would even say round one 10 - 9 Randy.
Until the punch that dropped him in round two think Rndy was controlling the standup as well, It was equal-ish but I think Randy was winning.
Ls18- November 16, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Carwin in a couple fights time will destroy Lesnar, he has equal wrestling, WAR standup and also has to cut to make 265.
Geriatric Peon- November 16, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Dyph - Although I would say that the further the fight went the better it would be for Couture, how do you figure Lesnar wasn't winning the fight to that point? Neither was dominating the stand up and Lesnar had the only take downs. Couture's one achievement was getting back up from the bottom, which while is an achievement due to the size difference, it really doesn't make a case for him to be winning the fight.

That being said Nog should submit Brock's.
Dyph- November 16, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Just a few quick thoughts. Though he "caught" Couture and thus won the title, Lesner was not winning up until that point. And though I wholeheartedly believe he would be a serious force in hw in a year or two, this really isn't the best time for him to be champ. He IS beatable, size/natural ability/strength/etc aside and should Big Nog face him he has a bigger chance of losing than vs Couture(in my opinion). In the Couture fight by the end of the first round it was evident that Lesner was being frustrated and being worn down, not to mention the toll it was already taking on his cardio.

Besides my rant above Lesner is good for the sport for his drawing power alone, and will yet to be a rounded and technically sound fighter, though he really isn't now.

Along with obviously wanting to see him progress on a training and technical level, I want to see him humbled a little bit. He may just be being played as a disrespectful badass, but I doubt it. He will suffer a big loss in time and perhaps change his attitude toward the people he is fighting. He didn't seem to care that he was fighting Couture in his 4th pro fight, let alone that he won. He cared for what he won, strikes me as a fame monger.
bird-dog- November 16, 2008 at 7:39 pm
im sorry what happen?... i was dreaming
The Truth Returns- November 16, 2008 at 7:28 pm
You people have obviously been hit in the head too many times. Enough of this "Randy almost avoided" or he "got caught" crap. The facts are the facts and Randy got tkfo'd. It does not matter how Brock won or what could of happened in the fight. It went the way it did and that's it. You fuckers can dream up scenarios all day long but in the end, Brock still won. Will he win his next fight? Who the fuck knows and who the fuck cares. Fighters are never guaranteed victories, they are all human and all have their "off" days. The fight happened 2 days ago and you assholes are still sitting on this board wondering what could have happened. Get over it for fucks sake. Get a life and a job and quit worrying about things that have no direct reflection on your lives. Grasp reality and realize none of you has what it takes to be successful MMA'ers, this is why you troll these boards day in and day out. Wake up and quit dreaming!
Jay Smith- November 16, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Let's not forget all you wise muthafuckas, that Randy was doing well with him until he "got caught". He "almost" completely slipped that punch. It just barely caught him behind the ear. YES BROCK WON, AND I GIVE HIM PROPS, but he is beatable. The heavyweight division just got more interesting because of Brock, but noone is unbeatable.......just ask Bruce Lee.......Oh, he's dead isn't he?
MMA Fan- November 16, 2008 at 6:56 pm
really? against nog and fedor you would still pick lesnar?
you are worst than the guys who called kimbo the man after he knocked out tank abbot dumbass
Vince McMahon- November 16, 2008 at 6:52 pm
I'll kick Brock and Dana White's ass any day! I'm 63 and on roids damnit! Once I beat them, they will both come on my show and join the Kiss My Ass club on national t.v.

That's the bottom line cause the Chairman said so!
bird-dog- November 16, 2008 at 6:37 pm
... and if carwin cant do it maybe stone cold can drive his truck into the cage
bird-dog- November 16, 2008 at 6:35 pm
i wanna see lesnar take a nap like liddell did against evans.... or better yet like salmon did against evans
Robot- November 16, 2008 at 6:32 pm
mayhem proves very good points to my judgement of lesnar, i just feel like its too soon for him to have even been granted a title shot its almost a slap in the face to other heavyweights who have been in the sport longer vying for the same chances
Whip Wilson- November 16, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Brock Lesnar really doesn't have the internet. I know because he never returns my emails.
tougher than Tuf Guy- November 16, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Lesnar is a force to be reckoned with,but I think Nog would put him away...
Imbecile- November 16, 2008 at 5:28 pm
It is pretty unfair to say Lesnar is a LNP fighter. He is pretty active, and seems very happy to engage at all levels.

The reality is, not only is Lesnar massive, he is also a better athlete than most of us expected. And I'm not sure some of the other prospects will be able to match up against Lesnar. Cain Velasquez and Shane Carwin both look good, but would still be giving up 30 or 40 pounds to Lesnar. Also, I have seen neither move with his speed. Carwin has the better shot between the two, since he is bigger and stronger than Cain, and seems to hit harder. With Lesnar, all three of these guys have excellent wrestling technique, but with all else being equal, Lesnar's size and speed makes him the favorite in my book. I'd like to see Lesnar take a punch from Carwin, though, to really test his chin.

IMO, the best guys to have a chance against Lesnar are Nogueira and Gonzaga. Both have excellent BJJ, and Nog has a granite chin, and Gonzaga has some muscle to work in his subs. But I would have Lesnar as a favorite in any fight he enters at this point, and that includes against Fedor.
Geritric Peon- November 16, 2008 at 4:57 pm
I look forward to Carwin vs Lesnar but with how fast Lesnar's stand up is evolving (holy crap he learned to use the clinch) I would say that Carwin better study his stand up or he will just be destroyed.
Patrick- November 16, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Carwin vs Lesnar would be the shit.
better than you- November 16, 2008 at 4:33 pm
lesner holds the real title belt...randy never lost it nor was striped he always was the real champion. nog is the intrem champion since randy came back he really is the undisputed champion and now thats brock...the only formal thing to do is have the belts unfied but in reality once the real champion returns the intrem belt should be disolved.
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