(One of MMA’s greatest rivalries is about to get a completely unnecessary epilogue. Photo courtesy of ko.susumug.com.)
Bloody Elbow and The Sun are both reporting that the UFC is currently in negotiations to have dethroned heavyweight champion Randy Couture and former light-heavyweight champ Chuck Liddell face each other for a fourth time in Cologne, Germany, on June 13th. As BE’s Michael Rome writes:
The UFC wants to have Randy on their [first-ever] Germany show because he speaks the language and can do all the promotion. The winner of the fight would face the heavyweight champion in a big fight at the end of the year.
Couture is uninterested in moving down to 205 where Forrest Griffin is champion and Wanderlei Silva is also a contender. Both are close to him and in his camp, and weight cutting takes a toll at his age…
For Liddell, the thought is that…whereas he would have to win a bunch of fights to get back at contention at 205, the heavyweight division is thin enough where he could jump in and be an immediate contender with a win.
It is believed internally that Couture/Liddell will draw better than Silva/Liddell, and they know that a potential Liddell/Lesnar match would probably be the biggest PPV in the history of MMA.
You can’t really argue with the business logic of angling for a Liddell/Lesnar superfight, what with Anderson Silva‘s disappointing PPV numbers. And if Couture vs. Liddell IV goes like the previous two installments in 2005 and 2006 (which Chuck won via knockouts), the UFC will get their wish. But where does this leave the Spider?
Well, it leaves him with a superfight that’s maybe a little less super. Here’s how The Sun hears it:
[UFC] matchmaker Joe Silva is considering offering the Brazilian a fight with the loser of one of the two big light heavyweight clashes taking place at UFC 92 on December 27. That line up sees reigning 205lbs champion Forrest Griffin defend his title against Rashad Evans, while Quinton ‘Rampage’ Jackson faces Wanderlei Silva for a third time. And we understand middleweight champ Silva is being lined up as an opponent for one of those four men in a light heavyweight bout at [London's] O2 Arena on February 21.
It should be noted that the personal relationship between Anderson and Wanderlei could sink any chance of a fight between them ever happening, which is too bad because I’d cut off one of my girlfriend’s toes to see Silva vs. Silva — preferably, one of the extra ones on her right foot. Still, the other possibilities here are just as compelling. I don’t see the Spider having an easy stroll through any of these guys, and that’s a good thing.
As for Chuck and Randy, it’s a bittersweet situation. It looks like their days of being champions are officially over, so they’ll have to be content with competing in crowd-pleasing and profitable, though ultimately meaningless fights in a weight class that they aren’t really built for. If Couture beats Liddell in their next fight, maybe the UFC can use them to break open the Phillippines market with a best-of-five rubber-rubber match. Still, you have to admit that “Liddell vs. Lesnar” has blockbuster written all over it…
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Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:04
Big Nog is going to shit all over the UFC's plans when he smokes Mir then subs Brock from the bottom. And I'm totally cool with that.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:07
silva vs. silva would be the super fight!
Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:08
Dana White needs to lay off the drugs. Liddell knocking Lesnar out would be awesome beyond comprehension.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:10
Liddell making a run at the title? Anyone else have a very hard time seeing him beat Velasquez, Carwin, Dos Santos... the list goes on. Chuck's sprawl may be 'legendary', but come on.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:10
nobody else is predicting Lesnar over Liddell by groundandpound? Brock gets an early take down and 30 seconds later match is over. Predictable imo
Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:12
Liddell vs Lesnar a block buster??? How about a USA vs Monaco. Lesnar would roll over Liddell like the US could use their coast guard to take over Monaco. Chuck would never stop Brock's take downs. TKO Rd 1, 2nd min
Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:17
Liddell's spirit would vacate his body as soon as his entrance music hits and avoid the hassle of having it punched out about four minutes later.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:20
Well its actually a good fight for both of them no excuse on being old...i dont mind seeing those 2 go at it again they both have to prove something now since they are coming of lose...liddell vs brock...well i hope liddell has enough braincells left to not take that fight and retire with the small diginity he as left
Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:21
i dont know about any of you but all of these possibilities are far more compelling to me than Silva v liddell. C'mon who really wants to see Liddell embarress himself against Silva, and while i dont really want Rampage to lose to Wandy I would love to see Rampage v. A Silva, or Forrest v A Silva. THAT WOULD BE TITS. Rashad on the other hand ehhhh not so much. Chuck should move up to heavy unless they match him with Vera cuz i want that guys ass beat out of the UFC. Cuz u kno this isnt a fucking gameshow, you cant vote guys off....you've got to beat them off!
Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:39
I have zero interest in seeing Couture or Liddell get overwhelmed by some guy because he's 80 pounds bigger. I think there are still interesting fights for Liddell at 205 and Couture at heavy, and if we're talking superfight, i'd much rather see Silva-GSP. And I'd love to see Shane Carwin knock Lesnar's head off.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:53
I have no desire to see randy CUNToure ever fight again, period. Much less against the same old fighters blah blah blah. Its like penn/st.pierre...BORING! same shit different day. Stop firing all your goddamn fighters and you might be able to get a NEW fight!! I am not interested in seeing another Brock lesner "lay and pray" as well. I don't care for his big goofy ass, I find him boring, and the sooner he gets beat, and runs off to play "meat flute" with the fagharmonic orchestra, the better. He got what he wanted, a belt...a title, time to move on you big piece of shit. I am also tired of assholes like Randy getting paid a quater of a mil to get hammered by someone. he wants to fight, toss him back to the bottom of the pile, and give him 10K per fight, fuck him! same for liddell, and any of the other overpaid assclowns.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:56
Liddell vs Lesnar is NOT a superfight, it's a crime scene. Ridiculous.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 06:59
Is anyone taking into consideration that Liddell has the best takedown defense on the planet. you all shouldn't be so confident that Lesnar would win. Lesnar is big but Liddell wil always be a better striker and can most likely swat away Lesnars takedown attempts.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 07:12
Who the hell has Shane Carwin beat exactly? Just curious because I keep hearing people all up on his nutsack and I cant figure out why.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 07:25
liddell vs a silva would be uninterested.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 07:30
I think Liddel v the loser of jackson silva would be better! That shit never gets old! And Coutour dropping and fighting evens if he loses.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 07:32
@ UFC Fan: Penn/St Pierre BORING??? You have lost any shred of credibility you might have had before that comment.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 07:35
This is insane, Liddell vs Lesnar... Everyone was talking about how Lesnar had a too big of a size advantage over Randy who was at around 220. How is Liddell going to get anywhere near Brocks weight when chuck could almost be a middle weight if he wanted to
Sat, 11/22/08 - 07:42
not too excited for a fourth lidell coture match but i'm glad chucks stepping up to HW The UFC HW div is talentless and needs all the help it can get.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 07:42
You all know that the UFC is out to make money right? Ideally they strive for the best possible match-ups, but don't kid yourselves; the best fighter in the world with no drawing power is of little value. They would be absolutely out of their minds to not optimize on this power with their high fan following fighters, even if set fighter is being throw to the wolves. Think about this, we are talking about potential fights should the results of the next several fights fall in a particular way. And we are talking about potential fights that, should results fall in set way, are several months fruition. This is all hype, love or hate the match-ups this is all done for a reason; money. Undoubtedly Couture and Liddell are likely to never see another title, does that mean two of the most popular fighters in mma should not be given big fights on big cards? Of frigging course not. Should Chuck ultimately move on to face Lesner would you not watch it, whether you think he's being thrown to the wolves or not? Of frigging course not. Should Randy get another shot at Lesner would you not watch it? Of frigging course not. Rinse and repeat my rant for Anderson and the search for a lhw fight. If the only goal in matching fighters is to show you, the viewers, the best possible guys fighting ALL THE TIME, there would be a single despotist fight organization where we could just as easily have had the Fedor vs Randy fight already, which would mean Lesner would have had his arm broke and we'd be discussing a possible Liddell vs Fedor superfight...all hypothetical of course, but you get the idea.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 07:45
wtf is Dana thinking? why would we as fans of MMA want to see two washed up, thier time has come and gone fighters like Couture and Chuckles fight again???.... oh thats right...the UFC needs to make even more money so lets get the fans who don't have a clue to tune in to see to two has-beens headliine a event...... the friggen UFC did not start with the first TUF series..let these two get on with coaching/training, whatever (shitty straight to videos come to mind) as the UFC grabs at our wallets with more antics that resemble the WWE I fear that Dana will completely lose focus on the HUGE stable of fighters, and will only make matches or PPV's that do nothing for the sport other then to line the pockets of Zuffa.... I guess its the hell with the fans, and we'll do whatever we want cause we are the only show in town.... lets hope that changes and serious issues such as benefits, wage parity, medical etc become more important then lame ass cards or Dana White thinking he is the Sheriff of All Things MMA.... just a humble opinion of a MMA fan since 1991
Sat, 11/22/08 - 07:50
You guys are crazy. I want nothing but Couture and Liddell fights for the rest of my life. Couture is still awesome. I mean, he's only lost what? Like 9 times? That's nothing. And Liddell is on a roll. He won 1 out of his last 4. So keep these guys at the top, please. I could give a shit about the best fighters. I want storylines and huge PPV numbers.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 08:47
@wtf Liddell has said himself that he walks around at 230 pounds or better. You should know what your talking about before you open your mouth. @MARCUS**T**BAGG CADILLAC THE lll You mean uninteresting. I think. Unless your mildy ignorant.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 09:10
Gotta agree with the last couple posts Dana and Joe are really starting to fuck this shit up! Does anyone really think Chuck would stand a chance against Brock? I don't give a fuck about Chucks sprawl!! how fucking stupid does that cound yea some 300LB beast is bearing down on you and your sprawl is gonna beat him GO FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES!! just like Randy's historic game plans were gonna counter those fights the size of cinder blocks from pummeling the shit outta your old ass!! GET A FUCKING LIFE! The idea of Silva vs Silva or Griffin, Evans or Rampage does sound quit good I WANT TO SEE GSP vs SILVA while im not calling any of the 205ers washed up or not good enough GSP is P4P the best in the world! Silva wants to be P4P? Lets get this done while these are still both young and ready to dance THIS WOULD BE OF EPIC PROPORTIONS!!
Sat, 11/22/08 - 09:17
Some of you guys are impossible to please. If it was ONLY the best fighter against the best fighter, you'd be complaining about who's marked as the best fighters. So okay... Rashad Evans, who I can't stand, is undefeated. Does that make him the best? Because right there, without even picking and opponent, I'm tuning out. Wouldn't spend a dime to watch him. Maybe we could appease you all by putting him against Lyota Machida - because you know that would sell out in a heartbeat. *gag* But, there you have it... the two best. Undefeated. What a matchup!!!!! zzzzzzzz For everyone that complains about the WWE, it's not exactly the opposite of UFC. The UFC makes the fights we'll pay to watch and get emotional about. You have fighters who are personable, fighters who are fierce, etc. I don't see everyone running around with Rashad Evans tshirts because he's a fucking bore. But fans attach them selves to personalities like Couture and Liddell and their marketability is what sells PPV's. Yes, their better days are behind them, but either of those two will sell out faster than Machida. It's no accident that the Griffin/Evans card is triple stacked. I'd watch another Kimbo fight for the sheer entertainment value before watching Griffen/Evans alone for free on Spike. We like seeing dominant fighters put their money where their mouth is, we like watching the Tito Ortiz's of the sport get pounded out, and up until Randy lost, everyone was on his band wagon as "Captain America" will destroy Lesnar. Now with one more loss on him, he's "too old" and who cares? The only negative WWE-like trend is having too many PPV's too often now. The list of top tier popular fighters who really draw well isn't long enough and the cards get watered down. With the length of training camps and medical suspensions, these guys can't really stack a card every month with the biggest names. And God knows the MMA fans won't settle for anything less than "superfights" now.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 09:21
I'm glad a lot of you are waking up, and lot of you are also proving how you really didn't like MMA as much as you like Fascism, which in the West is just called Capitalism. UFCE. You all know it's true. You all do. They've even come out openly telling the peeps that the best fight technique is not what the Fertitta's want displayed. It's the amount of PPV buys some idiot can draw with his media persona. www.justin.tv Support it.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 09:43
Anderson Silva vs. Forrest Griffin Rashad Evans vs. Wanderlei Silva for the title Quinton Jackson vs. Keith Jardine ...in a perfect world!
Sat, 11/22/08 - 10:10
Oh, why the fuck not: I predict a Liddell KO in the first round.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 10:19
I just realized that the UFC probobly strategically fed us this rumor to draw our attention away from who Brock really should be super-fighting... Fedor. Fedor would win.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 10:26
Good one Jeff! And in that light it could also be a distraction from the fact that the UFC 91 card didn't attract the record amount of PPV's Dana Fucking White had some people believing the UFCE would.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 10:30
all you guys that keep saying Chuck won't be able to stop Brocks shot are fucking retarded. Old ass Randy stopped all of Brock's take down attempts and only got put on his back when he tried to hop on that mammoth back of Lesnar and got spun around. Randy's old ass was taggin Lesnar before he got caught. Randy donesn't have a punch compared to Liddell. Randy even cut Brock. If Lesnar was able to beat Chuck (which im betting against) .. it just adds to his credibility as a fighter. The more names he can put on his list of having defeated legitimize him as a fighter. I can't stand Brock sorry ass. The dude is huge.. massive even... but he has no talent, no technique. Who the fuck wants to root for the big bully? Not me. And for the record... I big Nog is going to fuck up everyones plans when he whopps Frank and Brock. Then order will be restored in the division and Dana can still have his super fight between Brock and Liddell.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 11:03
Brock v. Liddell v. Anderson Silva v. Couture in a 4 way battle royal for the heavyweight title. And toss a ladder in the cage too. It'll do 2 million buys, easy.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 11:10
Rampage > Liddell Evans > Liddell Jardine > Liddell Griffen > Rampage Liddell > Couture Liddell > Couture again Serra > GSP ..............................WTF Anything can happen in the world of MMA. Anyone can win. Anyone can lose. Speculate all you want. But if Matt Serra pounding out GSP doesn't illustrate that, just shut down the internet. They're all pros and it takes one punch or one mistake and all of a sudden your hero looks like a chump in a matter of seconds. That's the business. Lesnar could knock Nog for a backflip like Herring with one punch or he could get subbed in 10 seconds of the first. That' won't make Brock the best or worst fighter out there... it'll just be the way shit went down. If they fought three times, it could have three different outcomes. LIve with it.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 11:13
dana white is on chucks balls, and just wants him to win so bad! thats y he dint put him against a silva.. i hope chuck gets ground a pounded
Sat, 11/22/08 - 11:16
GSP vs. A Silva and Brock vs. Fedor
Sat, 11/22/08 - 11:25
@Eric In a perfect world neither Jardine or Evans would be in anything anybody could mistake for a fight worthy of top billing anywhere. Maybe you should just wait until this season of TUF is over and Dana will tell you who the next great 205 is gonna be. I wouldn't want you to look like an idiot before getting all the facts.
Sat, 11/22/08 - 11:28
dana is stupid and needs to stop firing all the good fighter. get some new fights!!! i want to see randy again but not like this, and chuck too. jardine just needs to go away! jon fitch is super talented, dana is fucking stupid " let fitch go work for the t-shirt guys" pretty soon all the good fights are gonna be at Affliction, bye bye ufc!!!
Sun, 11/23/08 - 12:37
I think "liddellvsLesnar could be the biggest fight ever" sounds funny. How many superfights does Dana have? Like someone mentioned BigNog might destroy the UFC's plan to hype roid monter, I mean Brock.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 01:08
Has anyone seen those love handles and belly on Chuck Liddel? He could easily fight at 185. Lesnar v Liddell would be like a discovery channel "seal vs white shark" video. No one here seems to notice that the last person he knocked out was ortiz in 2006 and since then he has had one win by a decision. You should also note that Lesnar has dominated all of his fights, only loosing because of a mistake related to inexperience and not related to athleticism or skill at all. Lesnar is part of a new age of MMA, where a lot more world class athletes will be finding their way into this sport due to increased pay checks. It is a reality check for all the other heavyweights, if guys like Lesnar stop going into the NFL and other sports.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 01:23
"# Poop Chute Says: November 23rd, 2008 at 2:32 pm @ UFC Fan: Penn/St Pierre BORING??? You have lost any shred of credibility you might have had before that comment." Its been done, did you fucking miss it? do you play videos games for a living or something? You think it will be any different than before? You think I lost cred cause I dont want to see the same fucking shit over..and over...and fucking over? I call BORING.......over, and over and over. How about instead of that boring shit, we see penn defend his belt against someone he HASN'T fought, like ohhh lets see....how about KENNY? What a crock of shit this so-called super-fight bullshit is.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 01:33
A silva vs forrest?? come onnnnnn that would suck. hate to see forrest loose gsp vs silva thats the fight i would love to see... couture? lets wait 3 fights to see where he is going. lesnar? after loosing to nog he will still be out there becoming the next chuck liddell and big name the ufc will have. liddell? moving up to hw would be the smartest thing to do for him. still he could never beat nog or lesnar and at this point i think couture would win if they fought again. of course im usually wrong but what the hell gsp is the future of mma, a silva talking about retirement fuck that shit. he needs to beat every contender there is before he talks about that.... he has only destroyed franklin but id like to see how a fight with gsp or even lyoto would go.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 01:43
i agree with Richard tucker. Its going to be a really big shit too
Sun, 11/23/08 - 03:13
Agree with Phill There is just starting to be enough money in MMA to lure the elite HW athletes away from the guranteed millions the NFL offers.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 03:39
I want to see a A. Silva vs. Cote rematch. Hear me out. All logic suggest that Silva might literally cripple/kill Cote in the ring just to make up for his lackluster performance in the first fight. Then just like in the movie Kickboxer GSP would fight Silva for Canadian revenge. Thereby setting up the only "superfight" that satisfies both fans and the UFC. I rest my case.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 04:22
Liddell's beer belly itself weighs in about 50lbs, I say let the man fight Brock haha. Hey Chuck still has punching power and punchers chance.... too bad Brock also has a punchers chance accompanied by size XXXXL gloves, so even if his aim is a little off he'll hit something eventually with those can of hams he calls fists.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 04:47
What's the bet that in Lesnar's next title defence Sable distracts the ref with her puppies long enough for Dana to chuck him a steel chair into the ring so he can lay out his opponent with that for the inevitable face heel turn?
Sun, 11/23/08 - 05:22
thats a good fight GSP vs SILVA is a super fight. dana, i hope when you beg jon fitch to come back to the ufc he make you suck his dick! 8=====D
Sun, 11/23/08 - 05:50
Justin you're a very creative and very simple man. I thank the good Lord everyday, for the the flashes of male genitals on my computer screen that are placed there by simple minded and scared closet homosexuals as yourself.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 05:56
I second the notion. Randy may not sound like Ali, but he sure as hell sounds like he's taking a couple shots to the dome piece.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 05:56
Randy speaks German? I call bulldung.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 06:23
TUF Guy vs Kimbo = Superfight We could do it in my basement, and put the video on a gay porn site.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 08:50
Lidell is washed up and I don't have any desire to see him fight anymore.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 10:23
I'd love to see liddell vs lesnar. i've never seen someone have both their cheekbones broken with one punch.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 10:34
I like the ufc's thinking a lot but i think Couture/Silva needs to happen!!
Sun, 11/23/08 - 11:25
Its the Same old shit with the same fighters when ever i read the fights you want, here's what i'd like to see... GSP V A SILVA ( Only at a catch weight 178 ) GSP cant give Anderson a head start! BJ V FLORIAN (If BJ wins there's nothing else to prove at that weight class!) GSP V THIAGO ( Lets see GSP get this monster down! ) BJ V THIAGO ( This could be interesting if BJ could get him down ) FITCH V BJ A SILVA V EVANS ( Why does everyone hate on an ever improving fighter? ) VERA V W SILVA GONZAGA V LESNAR MIR V COUTURE NOG V LIDDELL MICHIDA V LIDDELL Any thoughts???
Sun, 11/23/08 - 11:57
England Rules, I would scratch Vera vs. Wandy because it would suck, Vera is doing poorly as of late and Wanderlei Silva will most likely murder Rampage for the 3rd time
Sun, 11/23/08 - 12:15
@lilbigvince Sorry, remind me who won that fight? Cause you seem to be under the impression that Couture won.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 01:09
I don't know about you guys, but I'm not too excited to see this fight. Both are coming of losses and both have already fought each other 3 times already. Let's spice it up with new competitors. It's like having Tito and Ken fight again. Who wants to see that? If Liddell wins...so what, he already beat Randy twice. If Randy wins... so what, now they are even. Are we going to have Liddell vs. Couture 5 if Randy wins and evens the score? Neither fighter is going to gain anything from wining and who ever looses should just retire. I'd much rather see Anderson Silva vs. Chuck Liddell. How about you guys???
Sun, 11/23/08 - 01:29
@England Rules What weight classes are you considering Fitch/BJ and BJ/Thiago? I'm guessing Welterweight. I really wish BJ was a true contender at 170, and he might truely be. However, if he comes in fat and out of shape again, I'm going to say he'll need some extra luck to pull through fights. We'll see what happens at GSP vs BJ. Maybe he won't look so small or fat. Maybe he'll look in shape and about the same size as most 170 lb'ers but really I think he gives up too much going up in weight. Just like most fighters do.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 01:45
@Derly BJ wont be a fat 170 but GSP will still be a good 7pounds heavier when they get in the ring, it would never happen but say they ( all the fighters ) had the weigh in 2 hours before the fight that would make a hugh difference. Thats why there would have to be a catch weight for GSP V A SILVA, cause come fight time Anderson would weigh around 192 while George would just about touch 185! (its too much weight to give up!) Another point if no one likes Vera wouldn't it make sence to put him in with a beast like Rampage or W Silva if he loses he's out.. Any thoughts??
Sun, 11/23/08 - 02:18
@ all you silly people chasing a GSP vs Silva 'superfight', and in accordance with England Rules above me. On paper they fight 15 pounds apart, on paper. The fact is that GSP doesn't cut a lot to stay at 170, he is built for it and does well at that weight. Silva on the other hand has a lhw frame. Don't argue, watch him at 205. Basically the way this would play out is; GSP would walk is weighing in at the bottom of the 185 spectrum, Silva at 185-186. There would be 2-3 pounds difference from the weigh-ins alone. After which Silva will return to his 'walking around' weight which is well into the 190's. No matter how you look at it, there will always be a weight class between them. If you all really want to revert to ten or more years ago and do away with classes to make this fight happen, I hate to tell you, but you're out of luck with the UFC. Perhaps if they both sign with a Japan based organization and fight on new years...Oh and they should bring back foot stomps while we're at it, and the winner of that should face Fedor himself for the king of the universe title. While we're at it lets put the loser against Sapp just to see him cry at the hands of a little guy...At which point, since we've done away with weight classes anyways, we'll have finally discovered the best pound for pound fighter and we can feed Lesner to them, defeating all this Cotoure/Liddell/Mir/Nog/etc nonsense. Penn should just move to 185 as well, you know, to make things a little easier.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 02:34
Dyph you are insane both GSP and Alves cut from around 195. They are about 15 - 20 pounds off of Silva's walk around weight.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 02:37
"Geriatric Peon Says: November 24th, 2008 at 9:34 am Dyph you are insane both GSP and Alves cut from around 195. They are about 15 - 20 pounds off of Silva’s walk around weight." Hmm, so what you're saying is; not only does GSP cut 25 pounds for every fight, but Silva Walks around at an entire wight division higher than GSP? So for the latter part you agreed with me? Looks that way 15-20 pounds constitutes a classes' worth. I was initially a little stumped by the first part though, but I think I've figured it out. I'll put my theory to work; 19! 169! 3000!!!!! Hmph, who would have thought devising arbitrary numbers was so much fun....AND EFFECTIVE!
Sun, 11/23/08 - 02:52
Dyph, you said in your post on November 24th, 2008 at 9:18 am that "that GSP doesn’t cut a lot to stay at 170". I was arguing that he cuts about as much as Silva who is said to walk around at 210 - 215. I wasn't making up arbitrary numbers you condescending d-bag.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 03:08
"Geriatric Peon Says: November 24th, 2008 at 9:52 am Dyph, ...you condescending d-bag." I will not be swayed by your attempts at flattery.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 03:10
It's obvious your boyfriends don't read this site because I believe they would be pretty pissed about all this flirting between you two queers. The fact of the matter is you can argue this shit all day, and at the end of the day DW isn't gonna listen to either of your fucked logic or opinions. Get out of your moms basement have her fix you a snack and go outside and get some fresh air.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 03:52
I like the Liddell vs. Couture match-up much better than Liddell vs. Anderson Silva. Let's just hope of the 4 proposed fights for Anderson, it doesn't end up being Anderson Silva vs. Rashad Evans. Who give a shit about that fight? Against Rampage, Forrest, or Wanderlei, I would be very interested. Nobody likes Rashad, and nobody bus PPV's with his name at the top. Also, I didn't think Anderson Silva and Wanderlei were on particularly close terms. In fact, they went through a period where Anderson didn't much care for Wanderlei. Anderson left Chute Boxe pretty pissed off, and while most of the anger was at Rudimar Fedrigo, I think he could be talked into fighting Wand. Also, I wish BJ vs. GSP was put off until BJ actually got a title defense. I would much rather have seen GSP vs. Anderson Silva.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 04:15
@Imbecile I agree Silva v Silva is my favorite pick for that fight as well, and I also hate Rashad, I would like to see him v Jardine in a loser dies match.
Sun, 11/23/08 - 04:21
@Dyph & Geriatric Peon ar fags - the "mom's basement" insult is played out try to come up with something original. By the way I made no comment about wanting any fight to happen or trying to influence DW to make a fight happen, maybe you should read the comments you are trying to rip on douchehat.
Mon, 11/24/08 - 02:48
Sakuraba vs. Lesnar has my vote.
Mon, 11/24/08 - 05:31
LOL oh shit... some of these comments. Lesnar a lay and pray fighter? How so? He lays his fists into people's faces and prays he doesn't accidentally kill them? The only lay and pray I've seen in any of his fights was Couture doing nothing but lean on Brock, cause he knew if he actually tried to mount an offense and dirty box, Lesnar would slam his ass. Herrings face and body must have just magically gotten destroyed as well. Liddell? I honestly don't even think Lesnar would have to take him down at all. Lesnar's reach is so much superior Liddell would attempt to counterpunch, not dodge far enough, and get knocked out just like Couture. Fedor? No shit. Everyone's suddenly saying that Fedor would kick his ass and show MMA what a sham Lesnar is. Apparently the entire HW divison is a fucking sham then, morons. Moronic fans are why I love Lesnar.
Mon, 11/24/08 - 07:27
And staying anonymous is the reason you like to argue on the internet Bandwagon homo
Tue, 11/25/08 - 11:59
gsp vs penn 2 is gonna be awesome. even if it did happen before they're both better fighters now. kenny florian doesnt even deserve the time of day to fight penn, hes not that good.....as far as wandy vs rampage 3....wandys gonna knock rampage by knees to the face......again. and chucks not washed up(yet) he just makes retarded mistakes(view the rashad ko) his hands were dropped nothing was blocking his face, i think any of the fights that might happen with liddell will be exciting cuz odds are someones gonna get knocked the fuck out..................oh and fuck lesnar hes a pile of shit doesnt even deserve to be in the same cage with most of the fighters (exclude the diaz brothers)
Tue, 11/25/08 - 02:25
I can already see the posters. UFC 99-Grumpy old men
Wed, 11/26/08 - 01:50
Dyph is a UFC fighter.
Mon, 12/08/08 - 08:59
I also want to see Gina Carano's big tits fight Cris Cyborg.
Mon, 12/08/08 - 09:04
If the UFC is going to push this bullshit of Couture/Liddell IV then I want EliteXC to have another event with Tito Ortiz Ken Shamrock IV.
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